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DDB

#1

I am a fairly new student of VP and currently know DDB strategy better
than any of the other games. Are there any 10/7 or 10/6 DDB machines
in the Tunica market ? The best I have found is 9/6 DDB and only a
few of them. Bob Dancer says never to play 9/6 or lower DDB. Do any
positive expectation DDB machines ( 10/7 or 10/6 ) exist anymore ? In
Tunica or elsewhere ?

Are there any FPDW in the Tunica market that you know of ?

Thanks.

#2

There are no positive expectation games in Tunica at all; they are
prohibited by Mississippi law. Casinos in Biloxi interpreted the law
differently than those in Tunica before the storm. They read it as no
positive expectation MACHINES, so individual games on machines could be
positive as long as the machine carried enough negative expectation
games to make the machine net negative. Those were a vanishing breed
anyway, so who knows if any positive expectation games will ever surface
in Biloxi again. But it is a fair bet that Tunica will never offer any.
There used to be some pay tables that looked like full pay (10-6 DDB,
10-7 DB, etc.), but the 250 coin payouts were shorted to 239, so they
actually came in at under 100%.

That said, there are several places in Tunica where you can get 99.73
(NSUD), 99.92 (Triple DW), and 99.92% (2 pair Joker) returns. NSUD is
found only at Fitz. The other two are offered by both Sheraton and Gold
Strike.

After getting good at Jacks or Better and Bonus Deluxe (similar to DDB),
I found NSUD quite different and my transition was a bit slow. I am
finally comfortable with it now. Learning NSUD appears to be a bullet
you just have to bite sometime. Triple Deuces is extreemly volatile and
the 2 pr Joker strategy is a lot more difficult NSUD. Learning it is my
current project.

There is ONE quarter 9-6 DDB machine on a progressive at Horseshoe that
is a good deal if that is your denomination of choice.

Sam

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To: vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE_Tunica] DDB

I am a fairly new student of VP and currently know DDB strategy better
than any of the other games. Are there any 10/7 or 10/6 DDB machines
in the Tunica market ? The best I have found is 9/6 DDB and only a
few of them. Bob Dancer says never to play 9/6 or lower DDB. Do any
positive expectation DDB machines ( 10/7 or 10/6 ) exist anymore ? In
Tunica or elsewhere ?

Are there any FPDW in the Tunica market that you know of ?

Thanks.

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#3

There are no positive expectation games in Tunica at all; they are
prohibited by Mississippi law. Casinos in Biloxi interpreted the

law

differently than those in Tunica before the storm. They read it as

no

positive expectation MACHINES, so individual games on machines

could be

positive as long as the machine carried enough negative expectation
games to make the machine net negative. Those were a vanishing

breed

anyway, so who knows if any positive expectation games will ever

surface

in Biloxi again. But it is a fair bet that Tunica will never offer

any.

There used to be some pay tables that looked like full pay (10-6

DDB,

10-7 DB, etc.), but the 250 coin payouts were shorted to 239, so

they

actually came in at under 100%.

That said, there are several places in Tunica where you can get

99.73

(NSUD), 99.92 (Triple DW), and 99.92% (2 pair Joker) returns. NSUD

is

found only at Fitz. The other two are offered by both Sheraton and

Gold

Strike.

After the Fitz with NSUD, what are the next best deuces (any kind)
and where are they?

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#4

I don't know of any 10/7 DDB anywhere. If you find any let me know. I need
the money;-) I know of no fpdw in Tunica, but there are many games that
have a er of just under 100%. This is old information, but I did see DDB
(10/6 with a shorted SF) at Sheraton last summer. I suggest scanning the
vpFREE database. IMO, if you can learn DDB strategy, you can learn other
JB based games without too much trouble.

Chandler

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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:15 AM
To: vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE_Tunica] DDB

I am a fairly new student of VP and currently know DDB strategy better
than any of the other games. Are there any 10/7 or 10/6 DDB machines
in the Tunica market ? The best I have found is 9/6 DDB and only a
few of them. Bob Dancer says never to play 9/6 or lower DDB. Do any
positive expectation DDB machines ( 10/7 or 10/6 ) exist anymore ? In
Tunica or elsewhere ?

Are there any FPDW in the Tunica market that you know of ?

Thanks.

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#5

I have seen triple deuces but you had better have nerves of titanium and a
bankroll inherited from Croesus to play them.

Chandler

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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:03 PM
To: vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE_Tunica] Re: DDB

After the Fitz with NSUD, what are the next best deuces (any kind)
and where are they?

#6

Thanks! Like you, I haven't found any 10/7 or 10/6 DDB but I'll keep looking and if I find them......I will let you know . Being a new student of VP, I have ordered tons of VP materials (Dancer, Frugal, etc..) that recommend playing only such machines with over 100% return. However, I wasn't finding them anywhere in Tunica or Metropolis. I was in Vegas in July 2005 and found no such machines there either. I really like DDB vs. JOB b/c of the higher payouts on the aces and 4oak's but maybe it's time to look for some better paying games and learn those strategies . Any suggestions are appreciated ?
  
  Good Luck !
  
Chandler <omnibibulous1@comcast.net> wrote: I don't know of any 10/7 DDB anywhere. If you find any let me know. I need
  the money;-) I know of no fpdw in Tunica, but there are many games that
  have a er of just under 100%. This is old information, but I did see DDB
  (10/6 with a shorted SF) at Sheraton last summer. I suggest scanning the
  vpFREE database. IMO, if you can learn DDB strategy, you can learn other
  JB based games without too much trouble.
  
  Chandler

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-----Original Message-----
  From: vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:vpFREE_Tun…@…com]On Behalf Of ab4nita
  Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:15 AM
  To: vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [vpFREE_Tunica] DDB
  
  I am a fairly new student of VP and currently know DDB strategy better
  than any of the other games. Are there any 10/7 or 10/6 DDB machines
  in the Tunica market ? The best I have found is 9/6 DDB and only a
  few of them. Bob Dancer says never to play 9/6 or lower DDB. Do any
  positive expectation DDB machines ( 10/7 or 10/6 ) exist anymore ? In
  Tunica or elsewhere ?
  
  Are there any FPDW in the Tunica market that you know of ?
  
  Thanks.
  
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#7

What VP games do you find in Tunica that have an er of about 100% or better ? I am willing to learn new strategies . Thanks
  
Chandler <omnibibulous1@comcast.net> wrote: I don't know of any 10/7 DDB anywhere. If you find any let me know. I need
  the money;-) I know of no fpdw in Tunica, but there are many games that
  have a er of just under 100%. This is old information, but I did see DDB
  (10/6 with a shorted SF) at Sheraton last summer. I suggest scanning the
  vpFREE database. IMO, if you can learn DDB strategy, you can learn other
  JB based games without too much trouble.
  
  Chandler

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-----Original Message-----
  From: vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:vpFREE_Tun…@…com]On Behalf Of ab4nita
  Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:15 AM
  To: vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [vpFREE_Tunica] DDB
  
  I am a fairly new student of VP and currently know DDB strategy better
  than any of the other games. Are there any 10/7 or 10/6 DDB machines
  in the Tunica market ? The best I have found is 9/6 DDB and only a
  few of them. Bob Dancer says never to play 9/6 or lower DDB. Do any
  positive expectation DDB machines ( 10/7 or 10/6 ) exist anymore ? In
  Tunica or elsewhere ?
  
  Are there any FPDW in the Tunica market that you know of ?
  
  Thanks.
  
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#8

There's Ugly Ducks (98.91%) at Resorts, Grand ($1+), Bally's and Sam's,
if I recall accurately. Bally's has it on quarter Super Times Pay and
Spin Poker. Horseshoe has 15-10 Double Deuces (98.85%) on progressives.

Sam

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After the Fitz with NSUD, what are the next best deuces (any kind)
and where are they?

#9

Sheraton used to have triple dueces at .25 thru $5, are they still
there. Of course the variance is extremely high.

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--- In vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com, "Sam" <carter561@...> wrote:

There's Ugly Ducks (98.91%) at Resorts, Grand ($1+), Bally's and Sam's,
if I recall accurately. Bally's has it on quarter Super Times Pay and
Spin Poker. Horseshoe has 15-10 Double Deuces (98.85%) on progressives.

Sam

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>After the Fitz with NSUD, what are the next best deuces (any kind)
>and where are they?

#10

--- In vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com, "jimnkelli" <jbecker11@...>
wrote:

>
> There's Ugly Ducks (98.91%) at Resorts, Grand ($1+), Bally's and

Sam's,

> if I recall accurately. Bally's has it on quarter Super Times

Pay and

> Spin Poker. Horseshoe has 15-10 Double Deuces (98.85%) on

progressives.

>
> Sam
>
> ---------------
> >After the Fitz with NSUD, what are the next best deuces (any

kind)

> >and where are they?
>

Sheraton used to have triple dueces at .25 thru $5, are they still
there. Of course the variance is extremely high.

Yes, Sheraton still has them, and so does Goldstrike. Goldstrike
has them at both bars.

Les in Fla.

Les in Fla.

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--- In vpFREE_Tunica@yahoogroups.com, "Sam" <carter561@> wrote:

#11

>After the Fitz with NSUD, what are the next best deuces (any kind)
>and where are they?

Sheraton used to have triple dueces at .25 thru $5, are they still
there. Of course the variance is extremely high.

Yes, both Sher and GS have 3DW. I was listing lesser Deuces games
because I mentioned those in my first response and thought they were out
of consideration.

Sam