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#1

In a message dated 7/20/2007 12:34:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
deuceswild1000@yahoo.com writes:

Just the fact that they switch back and forth between games is

> probably an indicator that they aren't a very competent player.

How pompous is this reply? It reminds me of the alcoholic that thinks
someone is less of a competent "drinker" because they are not committed to a
singular libation. While a truly competent drinker is not addicted to any
particular form of alcohol or alcohol, nor is he driven in an addictive sense to see
the substance as anything but a substance. A player is someone that plays a
game. A competent player plays more than one came well. He does not have to be
addictive and committed to but one game. We all have different perspectives
and skills, certainly I am competent in more than one game and receive maximum
return for each of my activities.

China

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#2

China, you are right. Bob Dancer's reply was pompous.

However, there are some members of vpFREE who disagree with
you and me. They do not understand why we are offended by
his statements.

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On 7/21/07, China15334@aol.com <China15334@aol.com> wrote:

In a message dated 7/20/2007 12:34:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
deuceswild1000@yahoo.com writes:

Just the fact that they switch back and forth between games is
> > probably an indicator that they aren't a very competent player.

How pompous is this reply? It reminds me of the alcoholic that thinks
someone is less of a competent "drinker" because they are not
committed to a
singular libation. While a truly competent drinker is not addicted to any
particular form of alcohol or alcohol, nor is he driven in an addictive
sense to see
the substance as anything but a substance. A player is someone that plays
a
game. A competent player plays more than one came well. He does not have
to be
addictive and committed to but one game. We all have different
perspectives
and skills, certainly I am competent in more than one game and receive
maximum
return for each of my activities.

China

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#3

China, please retract this post. You attribute it to me, and I did
not write that. You retraction in writing would be greatly
appreciated.

DWK

In a message dated 7/20/2007 12:34:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
deuceswild1000@... writes:

Just the fact that they switch back and forth between games is
> > probably an indicator that they aren't a very competent

player.

How pompous is this reply? It reminds me of the alcoholic that

thinks

someone is less of a competent "drinker" because they are not

committed to a

singular libation. While a truly competent drinker is not addicted

to any

particular form of alcohol or alcohol, nor is he driven in an

addictive sense to see

the substance as anything but a substance. A player is someone

that plays a

game. A competent player plays more than one came well. He does

not have to be

addictive and committed to but one game. We all have different

perspectives

and skills, certainly I am competent in more than one game and

receive maximum

return for each of my activities.

China

************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-

new AOL at

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#4

I did not post those words. Please retract.

China, you are right. Bob Dancer's reply was pompous.

However, there are some members of vpFREE who disagree with
you and me. They do not understand why we are offended by
his statements.

>
>
> In a message dated 7/20/2007 12:34:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> deuceswild1000@... writes:
>
> Just the fact that they switch back and forth between games is
> > > probably an indicator that they aren't a very competent

player.

>
>
>
> How pompous is this reply? It reminds me of the alcoholic that

thinks

> someone is less of a competent "drinker" because they are not
> committed to a
> singular libation. While a truly competent drinker is not

addicted to any

> particular form of alcohol or alcohol, nor is he driven in an

addictive

> sense to see
> the substance as anything but a substance. A player is someone

that plays

> a
> game. A competent player plays more than one came well. He does

not have

> to be
> addictive and committed to but one game. We all have different
> perspectives
> and skills, certainly I am competent in more than one game and

receive

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Curtis Rich" <LGTVegas@...> wrote:

On 7/21/07, China15334@... <China15334@...> wrote:
> maximum
> return for each of my activities.
>
> China

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#5

DWK wrote: China, please retract this post. You attribute it to me,
and I did
not write that. You retraction in writing would be greatly
appreciated.

In a message dated 7/20/2007 12:34:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
deuceswild1000@... writes:

Just the fact that they switch back and forth between games is
> > probably an indicator that they aren't a very competent

player.

DWK is correct. He did not make this post. Although it was quoted
several times by others (sometimes pro sometimes con), I was the one
with the original observation. I was referring to players to switch
between games on the same machine. I was NOT referring to players that
play one game at one casino and another at another casino because of
differing conditions. I still believe my observation is valid, even
though some here have criticized me for making it.

I said it's an "indicator," not an absolute. I've never seen a player
who switches between several different games on the same machine play
competently. Perhaps there are some. But they would be in a minority.

If players want to know what I mean by competent, I mean able to get all
the answers correct on my class tests for the Intermediate level of
whatever game they are talking about. I don't insist players know
penalty cards. But correctly knowing all of the 3-card straight flush
versus two high cards rules and 4-card inside straight combinations
applicable in the game would definitely be included in my definition of
compentency. These are hands that vary between games and my entire point
was that players who switch back and forth between games on the same
machine don't know how these hands play differently in the various
games.

Bob Dancer

For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video poker
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#6

Thanks Bob

DWK wrote: China, please retract this post. You attribute it to

me,

and I did
not write that. You retraction in writing would be greatly
appreciated.

>
>
> In a message dated 7/20/2007 12:34:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> deuceswild1000@ writes:
>
> Just the fact that they switch back and forth between games is
> > > probably an indicator that they aren't a very competent
player.

DWK is correct. He did not make this post. Although it was quoted
several times by others (sometimes pro sometimes con), I was the one
with the original observation. I was referring to players to switch
between games on the same machine. I was NOT referring to players

that

play one game at one casino and another at another casino because of
differing conditions. I still believe my observation is valid, even
though some here have criticized me for making it.

I said it's an "indicator," not an absolute. I've never seen a

player

who switches between several different games on the same machine

play

competently. Perhaps there are some. But they would be in a

minority.

If players want to know what I mean by competent, I mean able to

get all

the answers correct on my class tests for the Intermediate level of
whatever game they are talking about. I don't insist players know
penalty cards. But correctly knowing all of the 3-card straight

flush

versus two high cards rules and 4-card inside straight combinations
applicable in the game would definitely be included in my

definition of

compentency. These are hands that vary between games and my entire

point

was that players who switch back and forth between games on the same
machine don't know how these hands play differently in the various
games.

Bob Dancer

For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video

poker

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