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If I remember right I think you have to prove damages to win a libel
suit. I'd have a lot of problems proving anything that Rob writes could
do me any harm. Of course, I always keep my options open.

Dick

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "2-WILD" <lucky4K@...> wrote:

Considering his propensity for lying and fantasy, there's a good
chance that he's afraid of being accused of libel if he waves the
article in your face and says "this is about you."

Now there's a statement of genius. No wonder you're dance around as
poor little dicky's fan here. You lack the same common sense he does!

The article appeared both in Gaming Today as well as on the site he &
you both read weekly. And you apparently haven't been following all the
forums in recent years. I've continuously readily welcomed and
encouraged libel/slander/defamation of character suits against me by
any math geek or any exposed guru of any kind. The truth has a keen way
of producing resulting fact in court, and it would probably put my name
on a star on the walk in Hollywood. And of the insignificant little
dicky's denial? I can hear the Judge questioning him now: "Sir, are you
saying that, although you ADMIT to gambling at video poker at least 2-3
hours every day, and although you MOVED to LV obviously to be closer to
the machines so you are ABLE to play video poker every day, and
although your wife rows the exact same boat you do---you're denying
that you (& she) have a gambling problem, that in fact you don't even
consider what you do as GAMBLING!, and that Mr. Singer is 100% wrong
when he refers to you as an addict? 90 days for contemp of court!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "2-WILD" <lucky4K@...> wrote:

Considering his propensity for lying and fantasy, there's a good
chance that he's afraid of being accused of libel if he waves the
article in your face and says "this is about you."

could do me any harm. Of course, I always keep my options open.

You know that makes sense. Since after the radio jock (and subsequently
little dicky) have committed aggregious crimes against my character by
proclaiming that I'm a "liar and a fraud" when it comes to my overall
win record/reported results, the fact that I've already gone public
with the assertion that I could prove I have won (at the time over
$640k--which is a bit larger now of course) with my strategy over the
past 9 years, the fact that I've put up the escrow and rounded up
verifiers to support the effort, and the fact that I've had a local
channel in LV agree in writing to filming the more important steps in
the process--I should re-visit MY options, shouldn't I? I'm so not into
making money off of other people's weaknesses that I completely ignored
that aspect. Thank you.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

If I remember right I think you have to prove damages to win a libel
suit. I'd have a lot of problems proving anything that Rob writes

> > > Another response straight out of the 'yellow pages'.....
> >
> > Just do it. One does have to wonder what Robbie fears.
>
> Hmmm.... Wouldn't it be a kick to see YOU drag the article over
> here! But wait!--If you did that then you'd be obligated to rip

it

> apart, and you can't because you've already read it a dozen times
> and have no options! Transparent as saran wrap little
> dicky...transparent as saran wrap.

The only anwser that makes any sense is that Robbie is so afraid of
how easily I'd rip it to shreds that he doesn't want me to see it.

I

think coward is too kind of word to describe Robbie. I guess I'll
just let it pass until he grows a set.

Transparent as saran wrap, little dicky.

> > >
> > > I don't know if Elliot gets paid or not,
> >
> > Then why did you state that he did? That is called a LIE.
>
> Because he might, and if he does then it's not a lie. It is to

you,

> but that's because you can't figure this tough thing out yet.

A clear insight into Robbies' definition of the TRUTH.

And a clear insight into how you must dance on every issue.

> Same as the facts that his father has stated time and again that

no one can win playing mathematically perfect.

That is not a fact. The math proves otherwise.

He didn't believe that, so why would his son and you? Seems Lenny
taught theory and lived reality--not something that true addicts
could readily handle now, is it.....

> > > Continued denial by the denyer....along with the two-fifty
words!
> >
> > And it will continue FOREVER. Get used to it.
>
> What--the two-fifty words?? Or the fact that you must continue
> denying you are a problem gambler because it doesn't make you

feel

> so good to hear or see the truth!?

It doesn't make me feel good or bad to hear your lies. However, it
does make me feel good to constantly expose your lies.

As the denying--and sadness--continyes.

> > > > > Should we have the violins playing right now as

you 'sing'

> to
> > the
> > > > > tune of denial??
> > > >
> > > > Yes, as long as you're looking in the mirror.
> > >
> > > Not facing your problem head-on like this only means a harder
> fall
> > > down the road.
> >
> > Don't worry, any fall will be into a bed of greenbacks.
>
> Probably, only when you close on youe Minn. home that's sitting
> there as a cash cow for gambling money--just like your hero Jean
> Scott was forced to do.

Sorry to keep disappointing, but like I said last time, that money

is

going right into another property. Oh I love it when you make a
complete fool of yourself. After all is said and done I'll send you

a picture of the new place so you can keep it under your pillow next
to my picture.

Oh I get it. You're getting a new place to downsize (better fix your
place up first) so you can get some gambling cash to feed your
incessant habit with. then rent out the place so you can stay in LV
CLOSER TO THE MACHINES all year round!

always
> > play with a long term advantage.
>
> Permit me to laugh. Now you're putting yourself into a grouping

of

> one of the worst math comprehenders of all time, so she admits.

You don't have to be good at math to intelligently follow its'
results. Just trust the math, add in the extras (I think just about
anyone can handle addition), find the best plays (pretty easy math
again) and practice. Doing the above with discipline will provide

the best possible results.

There you are--more hypocracy! You used to claim I had no math skills
so that's why I lost at 'perfect play' for 6 years. Now it's OK for
your hero not to know how to divide, while you use one of the key
rules of my strategy as a cover for he. You got caught again.

> > The truth and Rob Singer are total strangers as evidenced once
> again
> > by your lie about Elliot receiving pay for his articles.
>
> Avoid the subject why don't you?? And why not write to your

fellow

> nerd friend and ask if he gets paid instaed of the constant
> guessing.

No guessing on my part. Just the facts, as usual. That's a big
difference between us, I get the facts before making statements.

Then where's the factual evidence on him?? Or is it more hypocracy....

> I expect he does because he needs the money to play vp
> with--when he plays, that is!

Then you "expect" wrong. Of course, this surprises no one.

> > To be honest I'd do better spending less time in front of the

TV

> and
> > more time gambling for profit. Although I may decide one of

these

> > days to spend less time gambling and more time on other venues
> (like
> > golf), I will always know the truth about AP. Your lies will
never
> > change that truth.
>
> LAlalalalala...keep on singing your phonics until you make

yourself

> believe all that nonsense you just said. Golf? HAHA! TV? HAHA!
> You'll gamble till you step into your grave because of 2 reasons:
> First, you're too far gone in the vp junkie category; and second,
> because if your wife lives on she'll MAKE you take her to casinos
> for the remainder of her days--wherever you are--because you've
> cursed her with the affliction of pathological gambling.

More babbling from the babblemaster. You say almost exactly the

same

thing every time you're frustrated. It's a real good laugh. I can
just about predict it every time.

It's kind of obvious by now that whenever you get stung, you use the
babble word as an out. That's why I like it--it shows you're in a
spot and can't dance your way out of it when you used to be able to
do it to teachers as a nerd in school. It's the big time now, little
dicky!

> > > Those who go after the wet-
> > > dream of expert-play do so for easy money purposes, and it

just won't work.

> >
> > Sorry, little man but it has for almost 8 years.
>
> Yup, and for 12 for the Queen and who knows for Dancer?? Sure

helps

> to over-inflate the value of all those buffets and T-shirts and
> propeller-topped beanies!!

You've tried that before. The comps are never taken into account in
my results.

LAlalalalala....On and on with the BS and lies. Keep burying yourself.

For many others, they are important, and they figure them

into their results.

You don't know anything about anyone else because compulsive gamblers
only focus on themselves and their gambling.

It all depends on individual priorities. I do

believe I've heard Jean comment that she also uses cash results.
Could your statement be another one of little Robbies guesses that
don't quite pan out?

Same comment.

> > > They find what pawns of the casinos they really are as they

get

> > > roped into promotions day after day after day. Truly, a self-
> > > disrespecting lifestyle.
> >
> > More evidence that you'll say anything to further your own
agenda.
> AP
> > works, pure and simple, anything else relies on luck.
>
> My agenda? It's playing for profit, and exposing all the fraud in
> the vp industry. That's why I'm so popular and why you love to

hate

> to love me.

Your agenda ... to make others think you're some kind of VP guru
when, in fact, you are a complete fraud.

That really hurts you, doesn't it. Oh well, it'll pass. Just go to a
casino and feed your habit!

> > > > Just the facts, as always.
> > >
> > > The suger-coated facts, as usual.
> >
> > At least you finally admitted they are "facts, as usual".
>
> Maybe you missed the "sugar"??

You slipped up. All "sugar-coated" adds to facts is making them
easier on the ears. Facts are facts.

??? Is that what they teach you in Minn.?

> > > May the God's of gambling have mercy on your soul.
> >
> > No problem there. The universe is described by math.
>
> So say the athiests. Now I understand your sickness even better.

No, it has nothing to do with religion. In fact, many believe the
reason the universe is so wonderfully described by math infers a
creator in and of itself. However, you referred to the "Gods of
gambling" in your statement which some might take as heretical.

Knock it off little dicky. You showed your hand.

>
> > > > Thank you. It's nice to know you think I'm "perfect".
> > >
> > > I think you're beginning to come around now.....
> >
> > I've always been "around". If only you would drop the negative
> play
> > BS and accept AP as the BEST way to gamble, then you

could "come

> > around" also.
>
> If I had done that baloney, I'd be at least $670k more in the

hole

> than when I smartened up. You're addressing the most successful
> person in the history of video poker play.

Looks like another guess to me. I'm pretty sure there are VP

players who have earned more than that.

You're "pretty sure" about everything because that's how you want it
all to be like. Too bad you don't follow that "fact trail" like you
portray around here. Caught again--DAMN I'm good!

Of course, you forgot to subtract out

all your losses in the past, so you are not $670K ahead in your
own "history".

Since I "smartened up". Re-read it, and try again.

> > > I'd probably easily out-score you on just a math SAT today!
Why?
> > > Because there's more common sense applied to them these days
> than
> > > when you tried to out-nerd them in your day.
> >
> > That's wonderful, now try applying that "common sense" to
> statistical
> > analysis and we could have an intelligent conversation for a
> change.
>
> Classroom nonsense again. When will you even leave that

theoretical

> world of yours and join reality?

When the "theoretical world" stops describing reality correctly. So
far, that hasn't happened.

I think I'm getting a pretty good handle on Robs' definition of the
word nonsense. It's all the facts that describe the real world.

Yawn....... Little dicky's alternate route for escaping from reality.
His first is pounding away at the vp machines, and making things up
about how those 'phantom bucks' are really worth it!!

> > > I don't need a Phd. to be respected. Nerds don't really care
> what
> > > others think because they don't respect themselves to begin
with.
> >
> > Asking for respect by writing lies and fantasies is ridiculous.
> > unless you change your ways, little man, respect is something

you

> > will have to do without.
>
> Sorry, but the respect just flows this way like powered by a

dynamo!

Sure it does. That's why you keep selling those 10s of copies of

your

book. However, you almost had it right. You just accidently left
the "dis" off in front of "respect".

I sense a little discomfort in your response. BTW--that's another
sign that the uncomforting truth is nearby.

> > In this case it does. Listening to you proudly state that you
will
> > demean another player for your own sadistic enjoyment should

make

> any
> > good person cringe.
>
> But you're so easy to demean, little dicky!

You just admitted that all you're doing here is trolling. Nice of

you

to admit it for everone to see. LMAO.

What's 'trolling'?

> > > Lets see....more 9/5 DDB machines than 10/6. Hmmmm....Would
> there
> > be
> > > more people playing 9/5 or 10/6??
> >
> > 9-6 and 9-5 are played much more of the time. I see it all the
> time.
> > In addition, I personally wouldn't play 10-6 very often,

without

a
> > good CB/BB it is also negative with a modest error rate.
>
> and just how do you know the machines will not win or win big

every

> time you play them? That's what I call a chicken!

They'll all win sometimes and all lose sometimes. OVER TIME the
better paytables will do better. It's all so simple.

And that's where you're lost. All you have to do is take the money
home once in a while and feel better as well as deposit it and don't
gamble it away. Works every time, only long-term thinkers believe you
have to play it until you drop. Sure makes sense!

> Of course it is, because each session is "any single session"
> dipstick.

No one wins "each session". So the only way to judge ones' results

is

to add up these sessions. That's the wonder of "over time".

I see you're still confused and still play thru all your jackpots.
Too bad. Just what the casinos want.

> > > The truth continues to be read and loved. Refreshing, isn't

it?

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> >
> > Or, as the reviews seem to indicate, read and ridiculed.
>
> I guess you never read the ones by GBC & GT. Hmmm... Imagine that-

-

> THE 2 most respected and longest tenured gaming publication

houses

> in the history of gaming, actually understanding and supporting
me??

And, trying to make a buck. That's called advertising, moron, not
reviewing.

But gee little dicky, how could they 'make a buck' on me if I'm
spewing nonsense, am a liar and a fraud, and no one buys any of what
I say??? Now take a few moments and don't worry--no one's timing you
or watching you scramble around.

> > > Besides, anyone could easily get a gander of you
> > > by parking outside your tiny little townhouse and simply
waiting
> > for
> > > you to make one of your daily addict trips to the casinos--a
> > > guaranteed showing!
> >
> > That does sound exciting. Are you speaking from experience? Was
> that
> > you parked out there the other day?
>
> I might do that some time. It would be interesting to chronicle

the

> habits of the compulsive gambler and his poor wife.

Feel free to knock on the door and go along for the tour.

That would take all of 90 seconds. Too far a drive for that.

> You mean sold, then exposed as fraud by ME! Too bad you weren't
> important or you'd be named along with these geniuses.

Not my gig. I'm glad you admitted they are "geniuses". It's about
time we got at least one fact out of you.

Zzzinggggg!

> > > Anything else constitutes falsification for the purpose of
> living
> > in
> > > a world of make-believe.
> >
> > Isn't this a telling response. One of the typical symptoms of
> being
> > addicted is increasing the denom as the thrill wears off.
>
> So you'll admit Dancer and the Queen, who've both admitted going

up

> in denom over the years and staying there, are certified addicts?
> Finally?

No, they may or may not be addicted. However, by playing positive
opportunities they don't run into gambling problems. That's the
problem with your use of the addiction charge. It doesn't lead to
problems when money is made.

All your make believe money-making charges aside....When did you
start believing that there's anything positive about ANY addiction?
You need to read up on your links more. Anyone who's ever talked to a
compulsive behaviour counselor hears those words in the first
discussion. What makes you have the need for that not to be true? OK,
I know gambling addicts won't accept any facts that might cut into
their habit. Just reply with a ? and we'll understand.

> I think you
> > just said that not being addicted "constitutes falsification

for

> the
> > purpose of living". Sorry, little man, you can't have it both
ways.
>
> .....living in a make-believe world, little dicky. You'd be right
> there with them seeking the same thrills if you were really
winning.
> You just can't talk your way out of it, can you.

I think I'm doing just fine. Watching you scramble here is

wonderful. You do know how to look foolish.

Your thinking is what's making you look so stupid and hopeless little
dicky. Try another method and you might salvage something here.

> > > Who said you wouldn't appear that way to anyone else? You

don't

> > count
> > > because you're a pathological liar about yourself in every

way.

> >
> > The truth gets to Robbie again. Too bad the facts and your
> statements
> > about how you know soooooo much about me are turning out to be

as

> > different as night and day. Makes you look foolish, especially
now
> as you try to hang on by lying more and more.
>
> I believe you're a bit ruffled by the fact that you've been
> identified as a pot-bellied pig!

I see, a pot bellied pig with feathers. Is that a metaphor for how
I'm constantly dumping the facts on you?

Seeks your history of 'dumping facts' has been riddled with error
almost every post. I think you're 'dumping' something else.

Sounds like more lies and more scrambling to me. By the way, which
one of your careers was so successful?

Why, both! To your disdain and to my enjoyment--not necessarily over
the careers!

> > The study used 'average', what part of that don't you

understand?

>
> That's just it, genius. AVERAGE people go to the resorts because
> above-average folks just don't make gambling trips. How thick you
be?

It's amazing that you will argue against a study that's only

purpose

was to find out what a cross-section of the gambling population
looked like. You simply look foolish when you ramble on like this.

Too much info-overload for you little dicky. Say so and I'll slow
down.

It's readily apparent you're cornered in the betting dept., and you
consistently need to re-read and look up your selective responses on
bowling, radio gigs, and tennis nonsense. Let's get to the bottom
line and start over--you either accept or decline, no bet raising by
either of us, no scrambling around by you because you're
uncomfortable, and no declining simply because I made the offers. I
understand you won't bet me on the radio doc's thing because you
stated you subsequently believed what I said. So we'll forget that.

1. Tennis--best of 7, but only when my Doctor says I can proceed
after the operation on my foot. No money--just some of
your "gamesmanship". Because I've played an average of 2-3 times per
week for years now and you have a bum kneee that you're afraid to get
repaired since it might affect your gambling trips, winning money
from you on this wouldn't be fair and would be against the Singer
doctrine.

2. Bowling: I don't care how much--you name the amount. I'm in decent
shape and can practice enough to beat a nerd. Candle pins or ten
pins? Again, we have to wait until I'm cleared.

In your favor, I understand there'll be some sort of left foot slight
movement restriction involved with this surgery after it's healed.
Don't let that worry you.

That's it. On or off? I'll announce it and the details in the paper
before we play, and we'll see how many geeks show up to root against
me.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > > Another response straight out of the 'yellow pages'.....
> > >
> > > Just do it. One does have to wonder what Robbie fears.
> >
> > Hmmm.... Wouldn't it be a kick to see YOU drag the article over
> > here! But wait!--If you did that then you'd be obligated to rip
it
> > apart, and you can't because you've already read it a dozen

times

> > and have no options! Transparent as saran wrap little
> > dicky...transparent as saran wrap.
>
> The only anwser that makes any sense is that Robbie is so afraid

of

> how easily I'd rip it to shreds that he doesn't want me to see

it.

I
> think coward is too kind of word to describe Robbie. I guess I'll
> just let it pass until he grows a set.

Transparent as saran wrap, little dicky.

First, you need to open your eyes. I see you're copying over your
newsletter now, but still afraid of copying over that column. By the
way, you actually consider an advertisemnet for some TV show that
most people will miss to be valuable? Interesting.

> > > >
> > > > I don't know if Elliot gets paid or not,
> > >
> > > Then why did you state that he did? That is called a LIE.
> >
> > Because he might, and if he does then it's not a lie. It is to
you,
> > but that's because you can't figure this tough thing out yet.
>
> A clear insight into Robbies' definition of the TRUTH.

And a clear insight into how you must dance on every issue.
>
> > Same as the facts that his father has stated time and again

that

no one can win playing mathematically perfect.
>
> That is not a fact. The math proves otherwise.

He didn't believe that, so why would his son and you? Seems Lenny
taught theory and lived reality--not something that true addicts
could readily handle now, is it.....

I doubt you have any idea what Lenny believed? The facts are still
the facts. Something your constant babbling can't change.

Oh I get it. You're getting a new place to downsize

That's partially right. In addition, it will be easier to maintain
and leave vacant for many months. It's part planning out ones' life
to get the most out of it. Of course, you wouldn't understand that.

> always
> > > play with a long term advantage.
> >
> > Permit me to laugh. Now you're putting yourself into a grouping
of
> > one of the worst math comprehenders of all time, so she admits.
>
> You don't have to be good at math to intelligently follow its'
> results. Just trust the math, add in the extras (I think just

about

> anyone can handle addition), find the best plays (pretty easy

math

> again) and practice. Doing the above with discipline will provide
the best possible results.

There you are--more hypocracy! You used to claim I had no math

skills

You claimed that the math behind AP was "voodoo math". I think that
statement says enough about your "math skills" for most people.

so that's why I lost at 'perfect play' for 6 years.

So you say. I haven't seen anything here to support that you played
anywhere near perfectly. Sure, you could have just been at the bottem
of the bell curve, but I suspect there was much more to it.

> > > The truth and Rob Singer are total strangers as evidenced

once

> > again
> > > by your lie about Elliot receiving pay for his articles.
> >
> > Avoid the subject why don't you?? And why not write to your
fellow
> > nerd friend and ask if he gets paid instaed of the constant
> > guessing.
>
> No guessing on my part. Just the facts, as usual. That's a big
> difference between us, I get the facts before making statements.

Then where's the factual evidence on him?? Or is it more

hypocracy....

Justs the facts. Remember YOU were the one who stated otherwise
without providing a shred of evidence. It's pretty obvious exactly
who is the hypocrite. If you want to find out if I'm telling the
truth, go ask him. Please report your findings RIGHT HERE along with
an admission that you were wrong.

> > > > Those who go after the wet-
> > > > dream of expert-play do so for easy money purposes, and it
just won't work.
> > >
> > > Sorry, little man but it has for almost 8 years.
> >
> > Yup, and for 12 for the Queen and who knows for Dancer?? Sure
helps
> > to over-inflate the value of all those buffets and T-shirts and
> > propeller-topped beanies!!
>
> You've tried that before. The comps are never taken into account

in

> my results.

LAlalalalala....On and on with the BS and lies. Keep burying

yourself.

Just the facts, as always. I'm sure if you got a picture of me from
the Edgewater you also checked into my results. Isn't it telling that
you haven't posted anything here about them? Must be that big PLUS
sign.

For many others, they are important, and they figure them
> into their results.

You don't know anything about anyone else because compulsive

gamblers

only focus on themselves and their gambling.

Lie. Many people have posted on VPfree that comps are exactly what
they are looking to maximize. You're back to making foolish and
idiotic replies, Robbie. Could it be frustration?

It all depends on individual priorities. I do
> believe I've heard Jean comment that she also uses cash results.
> Could your statement be another one of little Robbies guesses

that

> don't quite pan out?

Same comment.

Same frustration?

> > > > They find what pawns of the casinos they really are as they
get
> > > > roped into promotions day after day after day. Truly, a

self-

> > > > disrespecting lifestyle.
> > >
> > > More evidence that you'll say anything to further your own
> agenda.
> > AP
> > > works, pure and simple, anything else relies on luck.
> >
> > My agenda? It's playing for profit, and exposing all the fraud

in

> > the vp industry. That's why I'm so popular and why you love to
hate
> > to love me.
>
> Your agenda ... to make others think you're some kind of VP guru
> when, in fact, you are a complete fraud.

That really hurts you, doesn't it.

That you're a fraud? Not in the least. However, it clearly "hurts"
you to see it pointed out all the time.

> > > > > Just the facts, as always.
> > > >
> > > > The suger-coated facts, as usual.
> > >
> > > At least you finally admitted they are "facts, as usual".
> >
> > Maybe you missed the "sugar"??
>
> You slipped up. All "sugar-coated" adds to facts is making them
> easier on the ears. Facts are facts.

??? Is that what they teach you in Minn.?

That facts are facts? I think that's taught pertty much everywhere.

>
> > > > May the God's of gambling have mercy on your soul.
> > >
> > > No problem there. The universe is described by math.
> >
> > So say the athiests. Now I understand your sickness even better.
>
> No, it has nothing to do with religion. In fact, many believe the
> reason the universe is so wonderfully described by math infers a
> creator in and of itself. However, you referred to the "Gods of
> gambling" in your statement which some might take as heretical.

Knock it off little dicky. You showed your hand.

And made you look foolish ... again.

Of course, you forgot to subtract out
> all your losses in the past, so you are not $670K ahead in your
> own "history".

Since I "smartened up". Re-read it, and try again.

Sorry, moron, but you can't arbitrarily subtract out some losses and
make claims. What a fraud!

> > > > I'd probably easily out-score you on just a math SAT today!
> Why?
> > > > Because there's more common sense applied to them these

days

> > than
> > > > when you tried to out-nerd them in your day.
> > >
> > > That's wonderful, now try applying that "common sense" to
> > statistical
> > > analysis and we could have an intelligent conversation for a
> > change.
> >
> > Classroom nonsense again. When will you even leave that
theoretical
> > world of yours and join reality?
>
> When the "theoretical world" stops describing reality correctly.

So

> far, that hasn't happened.
>
> I think I'm getting a pretty good handle on Robs' definition of

the

> word nonsense. It's all the facts that describe the real world.

Yawn....... Little dicky's alternate route for escaping from

reality.

No, REALITY itself. If you want to claim that 1+1 is not equal to 2
in YOUR reality, it is fine with me. I simply point out the TRUTH.

> > > > I don't need a Phd. to be respected. Nerds don't really

care

> > what
> > > > others think because they don't respect themselves to begin
> with.
> > >
> > > Asking for respect by writing lies and fantasies is

ridiculous.

> > > unless you change your ways, little man, respect is something
you
> > > will have to do without.
> >
> > Sorry, but the respect just flows this way like powered by a
dynamo!
>
> Sure it does. That's why you keep selling those 10s of copies of
your
> book. However, you almost had it right. You just accidently left
> the "dis" off in front of "respect".

I sense a little discomfort in your response. BTW--that's another
sign that the uncomforting truth is nearby.

Now I see where you misplaced the "dis". LMAO.

>
> > > In this case it does. Listening to you proudly state that you
> will
> > > demean another player for your own sadistic enjoyment should
make
> > any
> > > good person cringe.
> >
> > But you're so easy to demean, little dicky!
>
> You just admitted that all you're doing here is trolling. Nice of
you
> to admit it for everone to see. LMAO.

What's 'trolling'?

LMAO. Your middle name.

> > > > Lets see....more 9/5 DDB machines than 10/6. Hmmmm....Would
> > there
> > > be
> > > > more people playing 9/5 or 10/6??
> > >
> > > 9-6 and 9-5 are played much more of the time. I see it all

the

> > time.
> > > In addition, I personally wouldn't play 10-6 very often,
without
> a
> > > good CB/BB it is also negative with a modest error rate.
> >
> > and just how do you know the machines will not win or win big
every
> > time you play them? That's what I call a chicken!
>
> They'll all win sometimes and all lose sometimes. OVER TIME the
> better paytables will do better. It's all so simple.

And that's where you're lost. All you have to do is take the money
home once in a while and feel better as well as deposit it and

don't

gamble it away.

You mean like the 3 deposits I've made in the last two weeks.

Works every time, only long-term thinkers believe you
have to play it until you drop. Sure makes sense!

No one should play till they drop. However, since each hand is
independent, it doesn't really matter when someone stops. Some will
have good luck (like the 3 RFs that made you look foolish) and some
have bad luck. That's why it's called RANDOM.

>
> > Of course it is, because each session is "any single session"
> > dipstick.
>
> No one wins "each session". So the only way to judge ones'

results

is
> to add up these sessions. That's the wonder of "over time".

I see you're still confused and still play thru all your jackpots.
Too bad. Just what the casinos want.

Won last year, and the year before, and ahead this year. What part of
that don't you understand? Like I've said before, I play around 3
hours a day. Doesn't matter what I get on any given day, I just add
up the results at the end of the year.

> > > > The truth continues to be read and loved. Refreshing, isn't
it?
> > >
> > > Or, as the reviews seem to indicate, read and ridiculed.
> >
> > I guess you never read the ones by GBC & GT. Hmmm... Imagine

that-

-
> > THE 2 most respected and longest tenured gaming publication
houses
> > in the history of gaming, actually understanding and supporting
> me??
>
> And, trying to make a buck. That's called advertising, moron, not
> reviewing.

But gee little dicky, how could they 'make a buck' on me if I'm
spewing nonsense, am a liar and a fraud, and no one buys any of

what

I say???

Still called advertising. Just like a TV network that calls a show
the "best ..." and cancels it two weeks later. They're a business who
wants to sell product. That's all it is, moron. Are you really this
naive?

Now take a few moments and don't worry--no one's timing you
or watching you scramble around.

It took about 30 seconds, poor typing skills included.

> > You mean sold, then exposed as fraud by ME! Too bad you weren't
> > important or you'd be named along with these geniuses.
>
> Not my gig. I'm glad you admitted they are "geniuses". It's about
> time we got at least one fact out of you.

Zzzinggggg!

Just quoting you. LMAO.

>
> > > > Anything else constitutes falsification for the purpose of
> > living
> > > in
> > > > a world of make-believe.
> > >
> > > Isn't this a telling response. One of the typical symptoms of
> > being
> > > addicted is increasing the denom as the thrill wears off.
> >
> > So you'll admit Dancer and the Queen, who've both admitted

going

up
> > in denom over the years and staying there, are certified

addicts?

> > Finally?
>
> No, they may or may not be addicted. However, by playing positive
> opportunities they don't run into gambling problems. That's the
> problem with your use of the addiction charge. It doesn't lead to
> problems when money is made.

All your make believe money-making charges aside....When did you
start believing that there's anything positive about ANY addiction?

I didn't say it was positive. Just neutral. If an addiction has no
NEGATIVE consequences then it is neutral.

You need to read up on your links more. Anyone who's ever talked to

a

compulsive behaviour counselor hears those words in the first
discussion. What makes you have the need for that not to be true?

OK,

I know gambling addicts won't accept any facts that might cut into
their habit. Just reply with a ? and we'll understand.

We all know about your need to call all successful gamblers addicts.
It's still your modus operandi and appears like it always will be. I
suspect very few successful gamblers are addicts so it really makes
little difference. However, I will stick to my claim that an
addiction that has no negative side effects is NOT a problem. Go back
a reread the links, moron, they're about "gambling problems".

> > I think you
> > > just said that not being addicted "constitutes falsification
for
> > the
> > > purpose of living". Sorry, little man, you can't have it both
> ways.
> >
> > .....living in a make-believe world, little dicky. You'd be

right

> > there with them seeking the same thrills if you were really
> winning.
> > You just can't talk your way out of it, can you.
>
> I think I'm doing just fine. Watching you scramble here is
wonderful. You do know how to look foolish.

Your thinking is what's making you look so stupid and hopeless

little

dicky. Try another method and you might salvage something here.

Nothing to salvage. Your monkey boy claims are pure rhetoric. I think
I'll just bask in the sunshine of your foolishness.

>
>
> > > > Who said you wouldn't appear that way to anyone else? You
don't
> > > count
> > > > because you're a pathological liar about yourself in every
way.
> > >
> > > The truth gets to Robbie again. Too bad the facts and your
> > statements
> > > about how you know soooooo much about me are turning out to

be

as
> > > different as night and day. Makes you look foolish,

especially

> now
> > as you try to hang on by lying more and more.
> >
> > I believe you're a bit ruffled by the fact that you've been
> > identified as a pot-bellied pig!
>
> I see, a pot bellied pig with feathers. Is that a metaphor for

how

> I'm constantly dumping the facts on you?

Seeks your history of 'dumping facts' has been riddled with error
almost every post. I think you're 'dumping' something else.

Just the facts, as usual.

> Sounds like more lies and more scrambling to me. By the way,

which

> one of your careers was so successful?

Why, both! To your disdain and to my enjoyment--not necessarily

over

the careers!

I see, you considered your results in your AP career to be
successful. Kind of puts everything in perspective.

>
> > > The study used 'average', what part of that don't you
understand?
> >
> > That's just it, genius. AVERAGE people go to the resorts

because

> > above-average folks just don't make gambling trips. How thick

you

> be?
>
> It's amazing that you will argue against a study that's only
purpose
> was to find out what a cross-section of the gambling population
> looked like. You simply look foolish when you ramble on like this.

Too much info-overload for you little dicky. Say so and I'll slow
down.

Please keep up the foolish remarks. Don't slow down on my account.

It's readily apparent you're cornered in the betting dept., and you
consistently need to re-read and look up your selective responses

on

bowling, radio gigs, and tennis nonsense. Let's get to the bottom
line and start over--you either accept or decline, no bet raising

by

either of us, no scrambling around by you because you're
uncomfortable, and no declining simply because I made the offers. I
understand you won't bet me on the radio doc's thing because you
stated you subsequently believed what I said. So we'll forget that.

1. Tennis--best of 7, but only when my Doctor says I can proceed
after the operation on my foot. No money--just some of
your "gamesmanship". Because I've played an average of 2-3 times

per

week for years now and you have a bum kneee

Sounds fine to me.

2. Bowling: I don't care how much--you name the amount. I'm in

decent

shape and can practice enough to beat a nerd. Candle pins or ten
pins? Again, we have to wait until I'm cleared.

When someone says "bowling" these days it's 10 pin. Candlepins are
pretty much history (esp. outside of New England). Same amount as
tennis is consistent with my previous offer. 10 games, total pins.

In your favor, I understand there'll be some sort of left foot

slight

movement restriction involved with this surgery after it's healed.
Don't let that worry you.

I won't.

That's it. On or off? I'll announce it and the details in the paper
before we play, and we'll see how many geeks show up to root

against

me.

On. When is your surgery? How much recovery time is required?

First, you need to open your eyes. I see you're copying over your
newsletter now, but still afraid of copying over that column.

That means you've read it again, are itching to comment on it, but
don't want to appear anxious or as a Singer groupie by doing it. Such
fear I must have though--100,000 people got it in hard copy, another
unknown number read it on my site......and I'm terrified to put it up
here so a handful of people can re-read it! Geek-logic.

By the

way, you actually consider an advertisemnet for some TV show that
most people will miss to be valuable? Interesting.

Huh? Why would most people 'miss it'? Are you implying that 'most
people' are so addicted to vp that they'll be inside casinos when it
was on?? Geek-thinking.

> He didn't believe that, so why would his son and you? Seems Lenny
> taught theory and lived reality--not something that true addicts
> could readily handle now, is it.....

I doubt you have any idea what Lenny believed? The facts are still
the facts. Something your constant babbling can't change.

I do have facts on what he believed. Just talk to GBC. They knew him
and talked to him frequently.

> Oh I get it. You're getting a new place to downsize

That's partially right. In addition, it will be easier to maintain
and leave vacant for many months. It's part planning out ones' life
to get the most out of it. Of course, you wouldn't understand that.

No, not with your mutated method of doing it all just so you can be
closer to the machines. It's what drives your life, and it controls
everything about it.

> There you are--more hypocracy! You used to claim I had no math
skills

You claimed that the math behind AP was "voodoo math". I think that
statement says enough about your "math skills" for most people.

"Most people" to you are geeks and nerds who won't think or listen to
anything but another of the same type fool. Wearing blinders are what
you and they do best.

> so that's why I lost at 'perfect play' for 6 years.

So you say. I haven't seen anything here to support that you played
anywhere near perfectly. Sure, you could have just been at the

bottem

of the bell curve, but I suspect there was much more to it.

No one knows how anyone else plays, and it's for certain no one even
knows how THEY THEMSELVES play. You make far more errors than you
know, and just like being a vp junkie, you'll never admit to that
either.

> > No guessing on my part. Just the facts, as usual. That's a big
> > difference between us, I get the facts before making statements.
>
> Then where's the factual evidence on him?? Or is it more
hypocracy....

Justs the facts. Remember YOU were the one who stated otherwise
without providing a shred of evidence. It's pretty obvious exactly
who is the hypocrite. If you want to find out if I'm telling the
truth, go ask him. Please report your findings RIGHT HERE along

with an admission that you were wrong.

You put too much concern into other people's affairs. Who besides an
idiot like you worries about evidence of that type? Elliot is a
nobody just like you, and few if any ever read his nonsense. I myself
would never pay anyone who butchered video poker play as much as he
does. GT would never have the nerd write in their paper if I weren't
there to counter his baloney. That's all that counts.

> > > Yup, and for 12 for the Queen and who knows for Dancer?? Sure
> helps
> > > to over-inflate the value of all those buffets and T-shirts

and

> > > propeller-topped beanies!!
> >
> > You've tried that before. The comps are never taken into

account

in
> > my results.
>
> LAlalalalala....On and on with the BS and lies. Keep burying
yourself.

Just the facts, as always. I'm sure if you got a picture of me from
the Edgewater you also checked into my results. Isn't it telling

that you haven't posted anything here about them? Must be that big
PLUS sign.

I've got your results, and all you'll do is DENY them. The FACT is
you're not the brute you portray yourself as there. And remember
little dicky, I SAW a pic of you and the missus, not GOT one. Keep
the facts straight once in a while please.

  For many others, they are important, and they figure them

> > into their results.
>
> You don't know anything about anyone else because compulsive
gamblers only focus on themselves and their gambling.

Lie. Many people have posted on VPfree that comps are exactly what
they are looking to maximize. You're back to making foolish and
idiotic replies, Robbie. Could it be frustration?

vpFREE?? You live and die by those squealers, don't you! That's why
you love to post there. Most of them are so stupid and wouldn't know
the truth if it ran over them, it gives you confidence when
you 'supplement' their input with your fantasy.

>
> It all depends on individual priorities. I do
> > believe I've heard Jean comment that she also uses cash

results.

> > Could your statement be another one of little Robbies guesses
that
> > don't quite pan out?
>
> Same comment.

Same frustration?

Same comment.

>
> > > > > They find what pawns of the casinos they really are as

they

> get
> > > > > roped into promotions day after day after day. Truly, a
self-
> > > > > disrespecting lifestyle.
> > > >
> > > > More evidence that you'll say anything to further your own
> > agenda.
> > > AP
> > > > works, pure and simple, anything else relies on luck.
> > >
> > > My agenda? It's playing for profit, and exposing all the

fraud

in
> > > the vp industry. That's why I'm so popular and why you love

to

> hate
> > > to love me.
> >
> > Your agenda ... to make others think you're some kind of VP

guru

> > when, in fact, you are a complete fraud.
>
> That really hurts you, doesn't it.

That you're a fraud? Not in the least. However, it clearly "hurts"
you to see it pointed out all the time.

I think you know by now that it's what gives me life. I enjoy when
others who love to hate to love me exhibit their displeasure,
discomfort, and agitation over my superiority. Don'tcha just love it
too??

> > > > > May the God's of gambling have mercy on your soul.
> > > >
> > > > No problem there. The universe is described by math.
> > >
> > > So say the athiests. Now I understand your sickness even

better.

> >
> > No, it has nothing to do with religion. In fact, many believe

the

> > reason the universe is so wonderfully described by math infers

a

> > creator in and of itself. However, you referred to the "Gods of
> > gambling" in your statement which some might take as heretical.
>
> Knock it off little dicky. You showed your hand.

And made you look foolish ... again.

Too many words for a nerd. Uneasiness personified. You showed your
hand. Even a girl would know that about you.

> Of course, you forgot to subtract out
> > all your losses in the past, so you are not $670K ahead in your
> > own "history".
>
> Since I "smartened up". Re-read it, and try again.

Sorry, moron, but you can't arbitrarily subtract out some losses

and

make claims. What a fraud!

Looks clear....so clear that you don't like it! Another victory for
the master!!

> > > > That's wonderful, now try applying that "common sense" to
> > > statistical
> > > > analysis and we could have an intelligent conversation for

a

> > > change.
> > >
> > > Classroom nonsense again. When will you even leave that
> theoretical
> > > world of yours and join reality?
> >
> > When the "theoretical world" stops describing reality

correctly.

So
> > far, that hasn't happened.

???

> >
> > I think I'm getting a pretty good handle on Robs' definition of
the
> > word nonsense. It's all the facts that describe the real world.
>
> Yawn....... Little dicky's alternate route for escaping from
reality.

No, REALITY itself. If you want to claim that 1+1 is not equal to 2
in YOUR reality, it is fine with me. I simply point out the TRUTH.

Same ol same ol. Regurgitation of the nerd.

> > > Sorry, but the respect just flows this way like powered by a
> dynamo!
> >
> > Sure it does. That's why you keep selling those 10s of copies

of

> your
> > book. However, you almost had it right. You just accidently

left

> > the "dis" off in front of "respect".
>
> I sense a little discomfort in your response. BTW--that's another
> sign that the uncomforting truth is nearby.

Now I see where you misplaced the "dis". LMAO.

??? You're floating away in this post little dicky. I'm not getting
your drift.

> > They'll all win sometimes and all lose sometimes. OVER TIME the
> > better paytables will do better. It's all so simple.
>
> And that's where you're lost. All you have to do is take the

money

> home once in a while and feel better as well as deposit it and
don't
> gamble it away.

You mean like the 3 deposits I've made in the last two weeks.

No, like the THREE deposits I've made this year without loss for over
$33k. And it's all because I know how to get up and leave--something
compulsive 'advantage players' never learned to do.
3 deposits in 2 weeks? That means you lost 11 times!! HAHA!!

> Works every time, only long-term thinkers believe you
> have to play it until you drop. Sure makes sense!

No one should play till they drop. However, since each hand is
independent, it doesn't really matter when someone stops. Some will
have good luck (like the 3 RFs that made you look foolish) and some
have bad luck. That's why it's called RANDOM.

More rhetoric from your sick view of the game and gambling in
general. Right now you're too far gone to train. But I know you'll
come crawling to me in the future to help you out of your rut. Most
will. Then you won't have to feel like you 'just don't belong' any
more. You'll have MADE IT!

> >
> > > Of course it is, because each session is "any single session"
> > > dipstick.
> >
> > No one wins "each session". So the only way to judge ones'
results
> is
> > to add up these sessions. That's the wonder of "over time".
>
> I see you're still confused and still play thru all your

jackpots.

> Too bad. Just what the casinos want.

Won last year, and the year before, and ahead this year. What part

of

that don't you understand? Like I've said before, I play around 3
hours a day. Doesn't matter what I get on any given day, I just add
up the results at the end of the year.

This sounds like hearing the Queen scramble around for words that her
subjects want to hear so they won't stop buying junk. You're one
level below that as a nobody, and STILL you like to make things up
about your play! "You are forgiven, my son....."

> > > I guess you never read the ones by GBC & GT. Hmmm... Imagine
that-
> -
> > > THE 2 most respected and longest tenured gaming publication
> houses
> > > in the history of gaming, actually understanding and

supporting

> > me??
> >
> > And, trying to make a buck. That's called advertising, moron,

not

> > reviewing.
>
> But gee little dicky, how could they 'make a buck' on me if I'm
> spewing nonsense, am a liar and a fraud, and no one buys any of
what
> I say???

Still called advertising. Just like a TV network that calls a show
the "best ..." and cancels it two weeks later.

But gee little dicky, I wasn't cancelled "two weeks later"!!!

They're a business who

wants to sell product. That's all it is, moron. Are you really this
naive?

Interesting. You saying no one buys my book on one hand, then you say
it sells because there must be a ton of people who like to hear fraud
and lies. Get your stories straight--here's another chance.

> > > > > Anything else constitutes falsification for the purpose

of

> > > living
> > > > in
> > > > > a world of make-believe.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't this a telling response. One of the typical symptoms

of

> > > being
> > > > addicted is increasing the denom as the thrill wears off.
> > >
> > > So you'll admit Dancer and the Queen, who've both admitted
going
> up
> > > in denom over the years and staying there, are certified
addicts?
> > > Finally?
> >
> > No, they may or may not be addicted. However, by playing

positive

> > opportunities they don't run into gambling problems. That's the
> > problem with your use of the addiction charge. It doesn't lead

to

> > problems when money is made.
>
> All your make believe money-making charges aside....When did you
> start believing that there's anything positive about ANY

addiction?

I didn't say it was positive. Just neutral. If an addiction has no
NEGATIVE consequences then it is neutral.

So now you've decided to reconsider what you said before. Good idea
to save face. However, your weasel-wording didn't buy you anything
and only made you look dumber and more of a denyer. By continuing to
squander away the truth about addiction you're simply digging
yourself a larger hole to flop into when the rubber hits the road--or
in your case, when your wife discovered where all the money you've
been telling her you've won and deposited just disappeared.
A "neutral addiction". That's not even funny. God help you.....

> You need to read up on your links more. Anyone who's ever talked

to

a
> compulsive behaviour counselor hears those words in the first
> discussion. What makes you have the need for that not to be true?
OK,
> I know gambling addicts won't accept any facts that might cut

into

> their habit. Just reply with a ? and we'll understand.

We all know about your need to call all successful gamblers

addicts.

It's still your modus operandi and appears like it always will be.

I

suspect very few successful gamblers are addicts so it really makes
little difference. However, I will stick to my claim that an
addiction that has no negative side effects is NOT a problem. Go

back

a reread the links, moron, they're about "gambling problems".

And the violin plays on..... The violin of sadness, denial, and
anxiety. "Addictions are neutral so they're good" & "AP's aren't
addicts". Man alive, you really are diseased.

> > > .....living in a make-believe world, little dicky. You'd be
right
> > > there with them seeking the same thrills if you were really
> > winning.
> > > You just can't talk your way out of it, can you.
> >
> > I think I'm doing just fine. Watching you scramble here is
> wonderful. You do know how to look foolish.

Just as I said. Thank you for confirming it so convincingly with that
ramble.

>
> > > > > Who said you wouldn't appear that way to anyone else? You
> don't
> > > > count
> > > > > because you're a pathological liar about yourself in

every

> way.
> > > >
> > > > The truth gets to Robbie again. Too bad the facts and your
> > > statements
> > > > about how you know soooooo much about me are turning out to
be
> as
> > > > different as night and day. Makes you look foolish,
especially
> > now
> > > as you try to hang on by lying more and more.
> > >
> > > I believe you're a bit ruffled by the fact that you've been
> > > identified as a pot-bellied pig & pathological liar.
> >
> > I see, a pot bellied pig with feathers. Is that a metaphor for
how
> > I'm constantly dumping the facts on you?

??? More Americana??

>
> Seeks your history of 'dumping facts' has been riddled with error
> almost every post. I think you're 'dumping' something else.

Just the facts, as usual.

No, it smells all the way here. It's definitely something else.

>
> > Sounds like more lies and more scrambling to me. By the way,
which
> > one of your careers was so successful?
>
> Why, both! To your disdain and to my enjoyment--not necessarily
over
> the careers!

I see, you considered your results in your AP career to be
successful. Kind of puts everything in perspective.

??? AGAIN? You said you didn't drink, correct?

> > > > The study used 'average', what part of that don't you
> understand?
> > >
> > > That's just it, genius. AVERAGE people go to the resorts
because
> > > above-average folks just don't make gambling trips. How thick
you
> > be?
> >
> > It's amazing that you will argue against a study that's only
> purpose
> > was to find out what a cross-section of the gambling population
> > looked like. You simply look foolish when you ramble on like

this.

>
> Too much info-overload for you little dicky. Say so and I'll slow
> down.

Please keep up the foolish remarks. Don't slow down on my account.

At least half of the subjects in this e-mail were avoided by you. Are
you THAT rattled?

> It's readily apparent you're cornered in the betting dept., and

you

> consistently need to re-read and look up your selective responses
on
> bowling, radio gigs, and tennis nonsense. Let's get to the bottom
> line and start over--you either accept or decline, no bet raising
by
> either of us, no scrambling around by you because you're
> uncomfortable, and no declining simply because I made the offers.

I

> understand you won't bet me on the radio doc's thing because you
> stated you subsequently believed what I said. So we'll forget

that.

>
> 1. Tennis--best of 7, but only when my Doctor says I can proceed
> after the operation on my foot. No money--just some of
> your "gamesmanship". Because I've played an average of 2-3 times
per
> week for years now and you have a bum kneee

Sounds fine to me.

>
> 2. Bowling: I don't care how much--you name the amount. I'm in
decent
> shape and can practice enough to beat a nerd. Candle pins or ten
> pins? Again, we have to wait until I'm cleared.

When someone says "bowling" these days it's 10 pin. Candlepins are
pretty much history (esp. outside of New England). Same amount as
tennis is consistent with my previous offer. 10 games, total pins.

You mean $1000 a game? OK.

> In your favor, I understand there'll be some sort of left foot
slight
> movement restriction involved with this surgery after it's

healed.

> Don't let that worry you.

I won't.

> That's it. On or off? I'll announce it and the details in the

paper

> before we play, and we'll see how many geeks show up to root
against
> me.

On. When is your surgery? How much recovery time is required?

I'm going to consult with the surgeeon on April 20th. I don't know
anything beyond that. But you best get in shape. Dump the beer gut so
I don't feel so bad dismantling you on the court and the alleys.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> First, you need to open your eyes. I see you're copying over your
> newsletter now, but still afraid of copying over that column.

That means you've read it again,

No.

are itching to comment on it,

No.

but
don't want to appear anxious or as a Singer groupie by doing it.

I just know it gets your goat.

By the
> way, you actually consider an advertisemnet for some TV show that
> most people will miss to be valuable? Interesting.

Huh? Why would most people 'miss it'? Are you implying that 'most
people' are so addicted to vp that they'll be inside casinos when

it

was on?? Geek-thinking.

Nope. I suspect most people that even take the time to read it
wouldn't necessarily get to it right away.

> > Oh I get it. You're getting a new place to downsize
>
> That's partially right. In addition, it will be easier to

maintain

> and leave vacant for many months. It's part planning out ones'

life

> to get the most out of it. Of course, you wouldn't understand

that.

No, not with your mutated method of doing it all just so you can be
closer to the machines. It's what drives your life, and it controls
everything about it.

Nope. If what you said were true I'd be in LV all year round. You
make such idiotic statements that anyone can tear apart in an
instance. How do you do it?

>
> > There you are--more hypocracy! You used to claim I had no math
> skills
>
> You claimed that the math behind AP was "voodoo math". I think

that

> statement says enough about your "math skills" for most people.

"Most people" to you are geeks and nerds who won't think or listen

to

anything but another of the same type fool. Wearing blinders are

what

you and they do best.

What? Nothing to refute my factual statment? "Most people" includes
everyone that believes that math is real and describes the universe
we all live in. They might not be good at math, but they recognize
that the technology we have today is a direct result of that very
same math you call "voodoo". If math applies to computers, cell
phones, microwave ovens, etc. then they understand that it applies to
VP. Some day you'll catch on.

>
> > so that's why I lost at 'perfect play' for 6 years.
>
> So you say. I haven't seen anything here to support that you

played

> anywhere near perfectly. Sure, you could have just been at the
bottem
> of the bell curve, but I suspect there was much more to it.

No one knows how anyone else plays, and it's for certain no one

even

knows how THEY THEMSELVES play.

You can get a reasonable idea using the software available today.

You make far more errors than you
know, and just like being a vp junkie, you'll never admit to that
either.

No, I factor them into all my plays. I suspect you never did that.

>
> > > No guessing on my part. Just the facts, as usual. That's a

big

> > > difference between us, I get the facts before making

statements.

> >
> > Then where's the factual evidence on him?? Or is it more
> hypocracy....
>
> Justs the facts. Remember YOU were the one who stated otherwise
> without providing a shred of evidence. It's pretty obvious

exactly

> who is the hypocrite. If you want to find out if I'm telling the
> truth, go ask him. Please report your findings RIGHT HERE along
with an admission that you were wrong.

You put too much concern into other people's affairs. Who besides

an

idiot like you worries about evidence of that type? Elliot is a
nobody just like you, and few if any ever read his nonsense.

Hmmmm, I think Rob just made a self assessment.

> > > > Yup, and for 12 for the Queen and who knows for Dancer??

Sure

> > helps
> > > > to over-inflate the value of all those buffets and T-shirts
and
> > > > propeller-topped beanies!!
> > >
> > > You've tried that before. The comps are never taken into
account
> in
> > > my results.
> >
> > LAlalalalala....On and on with the BS and lies. Keep burying
> yourself.
>
> Just the facts, as always. I'm sure if you got a picture of me

from

> the Edgewater you also checked into my results. Isn't it telling
that you haven't posted anything here about them? Must be that big
PLUS sign.

I've got your results, and all you'll do is DENY them. The FACT is
you're not the brute you portray yourself as there. And remember
little dicky, I SAW a pic of you and the missus, not GOT one. Keep
the facts straight once in a while please.

We all know it's right there under your pillow. Don't be shy, admit
it.

I know exactly what my results are. I also know there's a plus sign.
Of course, you'd never mention the TRUTH.

  For many others, they are important, and they figure them
> > > into their results.
> >
> > You don't know anything about anyone else because compulsive
> gamblers only focus on themselves and their gambling.
>
> Lie. Many people have posted on VPfree that comps are exactly

what

> they are looking to maximize. You're back to making foolish and
> idiotic replies, Robbie. Could it be frustration?

vpFREE?? You live and die by those squealers, don't you! That's why
you love to post there. Most of them are so stupid and wouldn't

know

the truth if it ran over them, it gives you confidence when
you 'supplement' their input with your fantasy.

Fact is, what I stated was true. All you came back with is more of
your babbling excuses to avoid admitting the TRUTH.

> > > > > > May the God's of gambling have mercy on your soul.
> > > > >
> > > > > No problem there. The universe is described by math.
> > > >
> > > > So say the athiests. Now I understand your sickness even
better.
> > >
> > > No, it has nothing to do with religion. In fact, many believe
the
> > > reason the universe is so wonderfully described by math

infers

a
> > > creator in and of itself. However, you referred to the "Gods

of

> > > gambling" in your statement which some might take as

heretical.

> >
> > Knock it off little dicky. You showed your hand.
>
> And made you look foolish ... again.

Too many words for a nerd. Uneasiness personified. You showed your
hand. Even a girl would know that about you.

"Even a girl" ... kind of sexist don't you think? Not surprising
given some of your past comments. And, not surprising that you're
trying to deflect the conversation away from your idiotic reply.

>
> > Of course, you forgot to subtract out
> > > all your losses in the past, so you are not $670K ahead in

your

> > > own "history".
> >
> > Since I "smartened up". Re-read it, and try again.
>
> Sorry, moron, but you can't arbitrarily subtract out some losses
and
> make claims. What a fraud!

Looks clear....so clear that you don't like it! Another victory for
the master!!

Is this the same method you used to come up with 640K or 650K or
670K ... whatever it is today?

>
> > > > > That's wonderful, now try applying that "common sense" to
> > > > statistical
> > > > > analysis and we could have an intelligent conversation

for

a
> > > > change.
> > > >
> > > > Classroom nonsense again. When will you even leave that
> > theoretical
> > > > world of yours and join reality?
> > >
> > > When the "theoretical world" stops describing reality
correctly.
> So
> > > far, that hasn't happened.

???

1+1=2

> > >
> > > I think I'm getting a pretty good handle on Robs' definition

of

> the
> > > word nonsense. It's all the facts that describe the real

world.

> >
> > Yawn....... Little dicky's alternate route for escaping from
> reality.
>
> No, REALITY itself. If you want to claim that 1+1 is not equal to

2

> in YOUR reality, it is fine with me. I simply point out the TRUTH.

Same ol same ol. Regurgitation of the nerd.

Just the facts, as usual.

>
> > > > Sorry, but the respect just flows this way like powered by

a

> > dynamo!
> > >
> > > Sure it does. That's why you keep selling those 10s of copies
of
> > your
> > > book. However, you almost had it right. You just accidently
left
> > > the "dis" off in front of "respect".
> >
> > I sense a little discomfort in your response. BTW--that's

another

> > sign that the uncomforting truth is nearby.
>
> Now I see where you misplaced the "dis". LMAO.

??? You're floating away in this post little dicky. I'm not getting
your drift.

What a surprise. You need to read WITH comprehension to understand.
You mentioned you got "respect" and I said you left of the "dis"
which makes it "disrespect" (which is all you do get). Now you
mentioned "discomfort" for me and I stated that was where you
misplaced the "dis" (in front of "comfort" rather than "respect").
Let's see if Robbie can figure it out now. He is pretty slow.

>
> > > They'll all win sometimes and all lose sometimes. OVER TIME

the

> > > better paytables will do better. It's all so simple.
> >
> > And that's where you're lost. All you have to do is take the
money
> > home once in a while and feel better as well as deposit it and
> don't
> > gamble it away.
>
> You mean like the 3 deposits I've made in the last two weeks.

No, like the THREE deposits I've made this year without loss for

over

$33k. And it's all because I know how to get up and leave--

something

compulsive 'advantage players' never learned to do.
3 deposits in 2 weeks? That means you lost 11 times!! HAHA!!

No, it actually means I don't run to the bank all the time. However,
get your story straight, I've lost more than 11 times. Small losses,
big wins.

>
> > Works every time, only long-term thinkers believe you
> > have to play it until you drop. Sure makes sense!
>
> No one should play till they drop. However, since each hand is
> independent, it doesn't really matter when someone stops. Some

will

> have good luck (like the 3 RFs that made you look foolish) and

some

> have bad luck. That's why it's called RANDOM.

More rhetoric from your sick view of the game and gambling in
general.

Just the facts, as usual.

> > > > Of course it is, because each session is "any single

session"

> > > > dipstick.
> > >
> > > No one wins "each session". So the only way to judge ones'
> results
> > is
> > > to add up these sessions. That's the wonder of "over time".
> >
> > I see you're still confused and still play thru all your
jackpots.
> > Too bad. Just what the casinos want.
>
> Won last year, and the year before, and ahead this year. What

part

of
> that don't you understand? Like I've said before, I play around 3
> hours a day. Doesn't matter what I get on any given day, I just

add

> up the results at the end of the year.

This sounds like hearing the Queen scramble around for words that

her

subjects want to hear so they won't stop buying junk. You're one
level below that as a nobody, and STILL you like to make things up
about your play!

Just the facts, as usual.

>
> > > > I guess you never read the ones by GBC & GT. Hmmm...

Imagine

> that-
> > -
> > > > THE 2 most respected and longest tenured gaming publication
> > houses
> > > > in the history of gaming, actually understanding and
supporting
> > > me??
> > >
> > > And, trying to make a buck. That's called advertising, moron,
not
> > > reviewing.
> >
> > But gee little dicky, how could they 'make a buck' on me if I'm
> > spewing nonsense, am a liar and a fraud, and no one buys any of
> what
> > I say???
>
> Still called advertising. Just like a TV network that calls a

show

> the "best ..." and cancels it two weeks later.

But gee little dicky, I wasn't cancelled "two weeks later"!!!

There's a lot more bookshelf space than TV time slots.

They're a business who
> wants to sell product. That's all it is, moron. Are you really

this

> naive?

Interesting. You saying no one buys my book on one hand, then you

say

it sells because there must be a ton of people who like to hear

fraud

and lies. Get your stories straight--here's another chance.

I didn't say either one.

> > All your make believe money-making charges aside....When did

you

> > start believing that there's anything positive about ANY
addiction?
>
> I didn't say it was positive. Just neutral. If an addiction has

no

> NEGATIVE consequences then it is neutral.

So now you've decided to reconsider what you said before.

Nope.

Good idea
to save face. However, your weasel-wording didn't buy you anything
and only made you look dumber and more of a denyer. By continuing

to

squander away the truth about addiction you're simply digging
yourself a larger hole to flop into when the rubber hits the road--

or

in your case, when your wife discovered where all the money you've
been telling her you've won and deposited just disappeared.
A "neutral addiction".

Not my words.

>
> > You need to read up on your links more. Anyone who's ever

talked

to
> a
> > compulsive behaviour counselor hears those words in the first
> > discussion. What makes you have the need for that not to be

true?

> OK,
> > I know gambling addicts won't accept any facts that might cut
into
> > their habit. Just reply with a ? and we'll understand.
>
> We all know about your need to call all successful gamblers
addicts.
> It's still your modus operandi and appears like it always will

be.

I
> suspect very few successful gamblers are addicts so it really

makes

> little difference. However, I will stick to my claim that an
> addiction that has no negative side effects is NOT a problem. Go
back
> a reread the links, moron, they're about "gambling problems".

And the violin plays on..... The violin of sadness, denial, and
anxiety. "Addictions are neutral so they're good" & "AP's aren't
addicts". Man alive, you really are diseased.

You really have got this thing for addiction. You still have the NEED
and can't let go. You are so pathetic that you NEED to call everyone
else an addict to ease the pain of your own weakness. It is so
completely obvious to everyone why you carry on like this. Sorry,
Robbie, my boy, but the majority of us don't have your weakness. We
can gamble for profit and not fall victim to its' downside. So,
please, continue with your useless rhetoric all you want. All it does
is emphasize your own failure.

> > > > I believe you're a bit ruffled by the fact that you've been
> > > > identified as a pot-bellied pig & pathological liar.
> > >
> > > I see, a pot bellied pig with feathers. Is that a metaphor

for

> how
> > > I'm constantly dumping the facts on you?

??? More Americana??

Catching up are you? Boy I get tired of explaining these things that
everyone else gets the first time.

> >
> > Seeks your history of 'dumping facts' has been riddled with

error

> > almost every post. I think you're 'dumping' something else.
>
> Just the facts, as usual.

No, it smells all the way here. It's definitely something else.

I've always suspected you were allergic to the TRUTH. Must effect
your olfactory sense.

>
> >
> > > Sounds like more lies and more scrambling to me. By the way,
> which
> > > one of your careers was so successful?
> >
> > Why, both! To your disdain and to my enjoyment--not necessarily
> over
> > the careers!
>
> I see, you considered your results in your AP career to be
> successful. Kind of puts everything in perspective.

??? AGAIN? You said you didn't drink, correct?

Correct.

> > > > > The study used 'average', what part of that don't you
> > understand?
> > > >
> > > > That's just it, genius. AVERAGE people go to the resorts
> because
> > > > above-average folks just don't make gambling trips. How

thick

> you
> > > be?
> > >
> > > It's amazing that you will argue against a study that's only
> > purpose
> > > was to find out what a cross-section of the gambling

population

> > > looked like. You simply look foolish when you ramble on like
this.
> >
> > Too much info-overload for you little dicky. Say so and I'll

slow

> > down.
>
> Please keep up the foolish remarks. Don't slow down on my account.

At least half of the subjects in this e-mail were avoided by you.

Are

you THAT rattled?

Not in the least. You don't even know how foolish you look. LMAO.

> > It's readily apparent you're cornered in the betting dept., and
you
> > consistently need to re-read and look up your selective

responses

> on
> > bowling, radio gigs, and tennis nonsense. Let's get to the

bottom

> > line and start over--you either accept or decline, no bet

raising

> by
> > either of us, no scrambling around by you because you're
> > uncomfortable, and no declining simply because I made the

offers.

I
> > understand you won't bet me on the radio doc's thing because

you

> > stated you subsequently believed what I said. So we'll forget
that.
> >
> > 1. Tennis--best of 7, but only when my Doctor says I can

proceed

> > after the operation on my foot. No money--just some of
> > your "gamesmanship". Because I've played an average of 2-3

times

> per
> > week for years now and you have a bum kneee
>
> Sounds fine to me.
>
> >
> > 2. Bowling: I don't care how much--you name the amount. I'm in
> decent
> > shape and can practice enough to beat a nerd. Candle pins or

ten

> > pins? Again, we have to wait until I'm cleared.
>
> When someone says "bowling" these days it's 10 pin. Candlepins

are

> pretty much history (esp. outside of New England). Same amount as
> tennis is consistent with my previous offer. 10 games, total pins.

You mean $1000 a game? OK.

I really meant zero, since that is the bet for tennis. I didn't want
to take advantage of you ... but $1000 a game is fine if that is what
you want.

> > In your favor, I understand there'll be some sort of left foot
> slight
> > movement restriction involved with this surgery after it's
healed.
> > Don't let that worry you.
>
> I won't.

> > That's it. On or off? I'll announce it and the details in the
paper
> > before we play, and we'll see how many geeks show up to root
> against
> > me.
>
> On. When is your surgery? How much recovery time is required?

I'm going to consult with the surgeeon on April 20th. I don't know
anything beyond that. But you best get in shape. Dump the beer gut

so

I don't feel so bad dismantling you on the court and the alleys.

Let me know. I can make most of May then it will probably be October
before I'm available.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > First, you need to open your eyes. I see you're copying over

your

> > newsletter now, but still afraid of copying over that column.
>
> That means you've read it again,

No.

> are itching to comment on it,

No.

> but
> don't want to appear anxious or as a Singer groupie by doing it.

I just know it gets your goat.

What, your denials? You forget--dicky the denyer?! This stuff is
merely a side-isssue to the main expose' here about your problem with
gambling. You know that 'transparent as saran wrap' comment of truth
I've made several times? It was sent to me by a reader who won't get
involved with posting, but easily can determine, just like anyone
with a clear mind, that you & the missus are pathologically hooked
almost beyond hope to your video poker.

> By the
> > way, you actually consider an advertisemnet for some TV show

that

> > most people will miss to be valuable? Interesting.
>
> Huh? Why would most people 'miss it'? Are you implying that 'most
> people' are so addicted to vp that they'll be inside casinos when
it
> was on?? Geek-thinking.

Nope. I suspect most people that even take the time to read it
wouldn't necessarily get to it right away.

Read what? Are you on narcotics for the knee?

> > > Oh I get it. You're getting a new place to downsize
> >
> > That's partially right. In addition, it will be easier to
maintain
> > and leave vacant for many months. It's part planning out ones'
life
> > to get the most out of it. Of course, you wouldn't understand
that.
>
> No, not with your mutated method of doing it all just so you can

be

> closer to the machines. It's what drives your life, and it

controls

> everything about it.

Nope. If what you said were true I'd be in LV all year round. You
make such idiotic statements that anyone can tear apart in an
instance. How do you do it?

Oh, you know what you're doing allright. More than likely you're
keeping a place up there because it's one of the ways you make
believe there's no problem with gambling in your life. But don't
worry though--you'll have to sell it anyway and then you're be
rationalizing about how you're too old to keep up the travelling, or
how it was just too tough to keep two places....on and on with the
predictables just as compulsive gamblers lives always eventually
unfold in public.

> >
> > > There you are--more hypocracy! You used to claim I had no

math

> > skills
> >
> > You claimed that the math behind AP was "voodoo math". I think
that
> > statement says enough about your "math skills" for most people.
>
> "Most people" to you are geeks and nerds who won't think or

listen

to
> anything but another of the same type fool. Wearing blinders are
what
> you and they do best.

What? Nothing to refute my factual statment? "Most people" includes
everyone that believes that math is real and describes the universe
we all live in. They might not be good at math, but they recognize
that the technology we have today is a direct result of that very
same math you call "voodoo". If math applies to computers, cell
phones, microwave ovens, etc. then they understand that it applies

to VP. Some day you'll catch on.

That's just it! That's exactly where your blinders roll out and
install. All that other stuff is true until you start mumbling about
a game whose final measureable result is from a human to machine
reaction. And no one can 'make up' theory about cell phones,
computers, mocrowaves, etc. That's why the geeks have taken on vp as
their theme when it comes time to create so much BS. 'Most people'
weould never see thru all the geek-nonsense. It took me to get that
part of the ball rolling.

> > > so that's why I lost at 'perfect play' for 6 years.
> >
> > So you say. I haven't seen anything here to support that you
played
> > anywhere near perfectly. Sure, you could have just been at the
> bottem
> > of the bell curve, but I suspect there was much more to it.
>
> No one knows how anyone else plays, and it's for certain no one
even knows how THEY THEMSELVES play.

You can get a reasonable idea using the software available today.

Wrong. First, that software isn't programmed nearly the way it is
into vp machines. I'm surprised you even said that being an ex-
programmer. Then, even if it were, playing at home with no pressure
and for free is a whole lot different than risking money at a casino.
For most, playing at home grows a separate set of gonads that
instantly disappear once they step foot inside casinos.

> You make far more errors than you
> know, and just like being a vp junkie, you'll never admit to that
> either.

No, I factor them into all my plays. I suspect you never did that.

Good for you, but you would be the first one to factually announce
that you had no idea just how many mistakes you really do make--and
when....or if they've even cost you anything or won you a bundle over
the years.

> > > > No guessing on my part. Just the facts, as usual. That's a
big
> > > > difference between us, I get the facts before making
statements.
> > >
> > > Then where's the factual evidence on him?? Or is it more
> > hypocracy....
> >
> > Justs the facts. Remember YOU were the one who stated otherwise
> > without providing a shred of evidence. It's pretty obvious
exactly
> > who is the hypocrite. If you want to find out if I'm telling

the

> > truth, go ask him. Please report your findings RIGHT HERE along
> with an admission that you were wrong.
>
> You put too much concern into other people's affairs. Who besides
an
> idiot like you worries about evidence of that type? Elliot is a
> nobody just like you, and few if any ever read his nonsense.

Hmmmm, I think Rob just made a self assessment.

I'm still waiting for you not to look more stupid by providing just
one of your "facts before I make a statement" on this guy. Support
your own methodology once even--for a change.

> > > > > Yup, and for 12 for the Queen and who knows for Dancer??
Sure
> > > helps
> > > > > to over-inflate the value of all those buffets and T-

shirts

> and
> > > > > propeller-topped beanies!!
> > > >
> > > > You've tried that before. The comps are never taken into
> account
> > in
> > > > my results.
> > >
> > > LAlalalalala....On and on with the BS and lies. Keep burying
> > yourself.
> >
> > Just the facts, as always. I'm sure if you got a picture of me
from
> > the Edgewater you also checked into my results. Isn't it

telling

> that you haven't posted anything here about them? Must be that

big

> PLUS sign.
>
> I've got your results, and all you'll do is DENY them. The FACT

is

> you're not the brute you portray yourself as there. And remember
> little dicky, I SAW a pic of you and the missus, not GOT one.

Keep

> the facts straight once in a while please.

We all know it's right there under your pillow. Don't be shy, admit
it.

I know exactly what my results are. I also know there's a plus

sign. Of course, you'd never mention the TRUTH.

From what I've seen you can easily come out to a 'plus sign' once you
throw in all the free cash they handed out to you (that you played
away into oblivion BTW) the rooms, the meals---anyone can over-
inflate the comps to create a positive situation just like I say all
the time. Those who play daily HAVE to tell themselves they're ahead
in one way or another. Otherwise, the justification for all that
compulsive playing begins to turn on them and plays with their minds.

> For many others, they are important, and they figure them
> > > > into their results.
> > >
> > > You don't know anything about anyone else because compulsive
> > gamblers only focus on themselves and their gambling.
> >
> > Lie. Many people have posted on VPfree that comps are exactly
what
> > they are looking to maximize. You're back to making foolish and
> > idiotic replies, Robbie. Could it be frustration?
>
> vpFREE?? You live and die by those squealers, don't you! That's

why

> you love to post there. Most of them are so stupid and wouldn't
know
> the truth if it ran over them, it gives you confidence when
> you 'supplement' their input with your fantasy.

Fact is, what I stated was true. All you came back with is more of
your babbling excuses to avoid admitting the TRUTH.

If you ever post ONE fact that's even close to being true without
your required selective feel-good interpretations, it would be a
miracle.

> > > > > > > May the God's of gambling have mercy on your soul.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No problem there. The universe is described by math.
> > > > >
> > > > > So say the athiests. Now I understand your sickness even
> better.
> > > >
> > > > No, it has nothing to do with religion. In fact, many

believe

> the
> > > > reason the universe is so wonderfully described by math
infers
> a
> > > > creator in and of itself. However, you referred to

the "Gods

of
> > > > gambling" in your statement which some might take as
heretical.
> > >
> > > Knock it off little dicky. You showed your hand.
> >
> > And made you look foolish ... again.
>
> Too many words for a nerd. Uneasiness personified. You showed

your

> hand. Even a girl would know that about you.

"Even a girl" ... kind of sexist don't you think? Not surprising
given some of your past comments. And, not surprising that you're
trying to deflect the conversation away from your idiotic reply.

I guess 'easiness personified' was too difficult to take on. Stick
with the easy stuff, yup, that's you! The 'girl' comment was meant
for you to relect back upon your schooldays where even the girls took
shots at nerds and always made direct hits. Not surprising you'd try
to suppress that from here at all. You can be hurt in so many ways,
yet the most effective and entertaining is watching you do it to
yourself!

> > > Of course, you forgot to subtract out
> > > > all your losses in the past, so you are not $670K ahead in
your
> > > > own "history".
> > >
> > > Since I "smartened up". Re-read it, and try again.
> >
> > Sorry, moron, but you can't arbitrarily subtract out some

losses

> and
> > make claims. What a fraud!
>
> Looks clear....so clear that you don't like it! Another victory

for

> the master!!

Is this the same method you used to come up with 640K or 650K or
670K ... whatever it is today?

Minus $250 thru '96/plus $683k since with a strategy that makes
sense. What you want to see is +$433 overall. OK. That's kinda nice
too, but it doesn't quite make my genius shine forth with my play
strategy as well either.

> > > > > Sorry, but the respect just flows this way like powered

by

a
> > > dynamo!
> > > >
> > > > Sure it does. That's why you keep selling those 10s of

copies

> of
> > > your
> > > > book. However, you almost had it right. You just accidently
> left
> > > > the "dis" off in front of "respect".
> > >
> > > I sense a little discomfort in your response. BTW--that's
another
> > > sign that the uncomforting truth is nearby.
> >
> > Now I see where you misplaced the "dis". LMAO.
>
> ??? You're floating away in this post little dicky. I'm not

getting

> your drift.

What a surprise. You need to read WITH comprehension to understand.
You mentioned you got "respect" and I said you left of the "dis"
which makes it "disrespect" (which is all you do get). Now you
mentioned "discomfort" for me and I stated that was where you
misplaced the "dis" (in front of "comfort" rather than "respect").
Let's see if Robbie can figure it out now. He is pretty slow.

Oh. How important. Only a nerd would go thru all that. Next you'll
point out punctuation 'mis'cues.

> > > > They'll all win sometimes and all lose sometimes. OVER TIME
the
> > > > better paytables will do better. It's all so simple.
> > >
> > > And that's where you're lost. All you have to do is take the
> money
> > > home once in a while and feel better as well as deposit it

and

> > don't
> > > gamble it away.
> >
> > You mean like the 3 deposits I've made in the last two weeks.
>
> No, like the THREE deposits I've made this year without loss for
over
> $33k. And it's all because I know how to get up and leave--
something
> compulsive 'advantage players' never learned to do.
> 3 deposits in 2 weeks? That means you lost 11 times!! HAHA!!

No, it actually means I don't run to the bank all the time.

However,

get your story straight, I've lost more than 11 times. Small

losses, big wins.

Whatever the pathetic win ratio you experience, it makes no sense to
play that boring way. I much rather prefer--as would anyone--big wins
and few losses--big or small. So far I have zero losses this year (6-
0 on 3 trips) but I've only had one royal. Now if I were Dancer--or
you--I'd be proclaiming "I know things will get better tomorrow". In
my case, I do know that because I can do a lot better IF I have to go
to the higher limits.

> >
> > > Works every time, only long-term thinkers believe you
> > > have to play it until you drop. Sure makes sense!
> >
> > No one should play till they drop. However, since each hand is
> > independent, it doesn't really matter when someone stops. Some
will
> > have good luck (like the 3 RFs that made you look foolish) and
some
> > have bad luck. That's why it's called RANDOM.
>
> More rhetoric from your sick view of the game and gambling in
> general.

Just the facts, as usual.

To you. Not to thinking people. That's where you and your theories
disengage.

> > > > > Of course it is, because each session is "any single
session"
> > > > > dipstick.
> > > >
> > > > No one wins "each session". So the only way to judge ones'
> > results
> > > is
> > > > to add up these sessions. That's the wonder of "over time".
> > >
> > > I see you're still confused and still play thru all your
> jackpots.
> > > Too bad. Just what the casinos want.
> >
> > Won last year, and the year before, and ahead this year. What
part
> of
> > that don't you understand? Like I've said before, I play around

3

> > hours a day. Doesn't matter what I get on any given day, I just
add
> > up the results at the end of the year.
>
> This sounds like hearing the Queen scramble around for words that
her
> subjects want to hear so they won't stop buying junk. You're one
> level below that as a nobody, and STILL you like to make things

up

> about your play!

Just the facts, as usual.

Thank you for supporting me again.

> >
> > > > > I guess you never read the ones by GBC & GT. Hmmm...
Imagine
> > that-
> > > -
> > > > > THE 2 most respected and longest tenured gaming

publication

> > > houses
> > > > > in the history of gaming, actually understanding and
> supporting
> > > > me??
> > > >
> > > > And, trying to make a buck. That's called advertising,

moron,

> not
> > > > reviewing.
> > >
> > > But gee little dicky, how could they 'make a buck' on me if

I'm

> > > spewing nonsense, am a liar and a fraud, and no one buys any

of

> > what
> > > I say???
> >
> > Still called advertising. Just like a TV network that calls a
show
> > the "best ..." and cancels it two weeks later.
>
> But gee little dicky, I wasn't cancelled "two weeks later"!!!

There's a lot more bookshelf space than TV time slots.

???

>
> They're a business who
> > wants to sell product. That's all it is, moron. Are you really
this
> > naive?
>
> Interesting. You saying no one buys my book on one hand, then you
say
> it sells because there must be a ton of people who like to hear
fraud
> and lies. Get your stories straight--here's another chance.

I didn't say either one.

Should have expected the easy way out again.... Denial when it's all
there in B&W.

> > > All your make believe money-making charges aside....When did
you
> > > start believing that there's anything positive about ANY
> addiction?
> >
> > I didn't say it was positive. Just neutral. If an addiction has
no
> > NEGATIVE consequences then it is neutral.
>
> So now you've decided to reconsider what you said before.

Nope.

> Good idea
> to save face. However, your weasel-wording didn't buy you

anything

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> and only made you look dumber and more of a denyer. By continuing
to
> squander away the truth about addiction you're simply digging
> yourself a larger hole to flop into when the rubber hits the road-

-

or
> in your case, when your wife discovered where all the money

you've

> been telling her you've won and deposited just disappeared.
> A "neutral addiction".

Not my words.

And they never will be. DENIAL is on your side and a major part of
your life right now, remember?

> >
> > > You need to read up on your links more. Anyone who's ever
talked
> to
> > a
> > > compulsive behaviour counselor hears those words in the first
> > > discussion. What makes you have the need for that not to be
true?
> > OK,
> > > I know gambling addicts won't accept any facts that might cut
> into
> > > their habit. Just reply with a ? and we'll understand.
> >
> > We all know about your need to call all successful gamblers
> addicts.
> > It's still your modus operandi and appears like it always will
be.
> I
> > suspect very few successful gamblers are addicts so it really
makes
> > little difference. However, I will stick to my claim that an
> > addiction that has no negative side effects is NOT a problem.

Go

> back
> > a reread the links, moron, they're about "gambling problems".
>
> And the violin plays on..... The violin of sadness, denial, and
> anxiety. "Addictions are neutral so they're good" & "AP's aren't
> addicts". Man alive, you really are diseased.

You really have got this thing for addiction. You still have the

NEED

and can't let go. You are so pathetic that you NEED to call

everyone

else an addict to ease the pain of your own weakness.

Nope, just calling a spade a spade from experience. You're just
entering that phase of learning, and denial is so much a part of your
life now that you won't agree with anything said against you for a
long time.

It is so

completely obvious to everyone why you carry on like this. Sorry,
Robbie, my boy, but the majority of us don't have your weakness. We
can gamble for profit and not fall victim to its' downside.

Of course you can't little dicky. Why, you and the other 'AP's" who
play daily have no chance of becoming compulsive gamblers because you
don't GAMBLE! Keep telling yourself that and then when you wake up
you're gonna want to go right back to sleep again.

So,

please, continue with your useless rhetoric all you want. All it

does is emphasize your own failure.

Even that quack Dr. Phil would easily see how you like to marginalize
what you've done to you and your wife. You've turned your retirement
into a one-dimentional life....one that's in a rut to nowhere and
going downhill at an increasing rate of speed. I talk to 'AP's" all
the time who've finally admitted their mistakes. I even wrote about a
high-rolling one with a real name last month. There's really not a
lot you can do about it though until you face it like a man--which i
know is waaaay difficult for a nerd.

> > > > > I believe you're a bit ruffled by the fact that you've

been

> > > > > identified as a pot-bellied pig & pathological liar.
> > > >
> > > > I see, a pot bellied pig with feathers. Is that a metaphor
for
> > how
> > > > I'm constantly dumping the facts on you?
>
> ??? More Americana??

Catching up are you? Boy I get tired of explaining these things

that

everyone else gets the first time.

I guess I can live without the punchline.

> > >
> > > Seeks your history of 'dumping facts' has been riddled with
error
> > > almost every post. I think you're 'dumping' something else.
> >
> > Just the facts, as usual.
>
> No, it smells all the way here. It's definitely something else.

I've always suspected you were allergic to the TRUTH. Must effect
your olfactory sense.

As long as it leaves my common sense alone.

> > > > Sounds like more lies and more scrambling to me. By the

way,

> > which
> > > > one of your careers was so successful?
> > >
> > > Why, both! To your disdain and to my enjoyment--not

necessarily

> > over
> > > the careers!
> >
> > I see, you considered your results in your AP career to be
> > successful. Kind of puts everything in perspective.
>
> ??? AGAIN? You said you didn't drink, correct?

Correct.

>
> > > > > > The study used 'average', what part of that don't you
> > > understand?
> > > > >
> > > > > That's just it, genius. AVERAGE people go to the resorts
> > because
> > > > > above-average folks just don't make gambling trips. How
thick
> > you
> > > > be?
> > > >
> > > > It's amazing that you will argue against a study that's

only

> > > purpose
> > > > was to find out what a cross-section of the gambling
population
> > > > looked like. You simply look foolish when you ramble on

like

> this.
> > >
> > > Too much info-overload for you little dicky. Say so and I'll
slow
> > > down.
> >
> > Please keep up the foolish remarks. Don't slow down on my

account.

>
> At least half of the subjects in this e-mail were avoided by you.
Are
> you THAT rattled?

Not in the least. You don't even know how foolish you look. LMAO.

If you even got part of that - and weren't a geek - you'd be
responding with something solid right now.

>
> > > It's readily apparent you're cornered in the betting dept.,

and

> you
> > > consistently need to re-read and look up your selective
responses
> > on
> > > bowling, radio gigs, and tennis nonsense. Let's get to the
bottom
> > > line and start over--you either accept or decline, no bet
raising
> > by
> > > either of us, no scrambling around by you because you're
> > > uncomfortable, and no declining simply because I made the
offers.
> I
> > > understand you won't bet me on the radio doc's thing because
you
> > > stated you subsequently believed what I said. So we'll forget
> that.
> > >
> > > 1. Tennis--best of 7, but only when my Doctor says I can
proceed
> > > after the operation on my foot. No money--just some of
> > > your "gamesmanship". Because I've played an average of 2-3
times
> > per
> > > week for years now and you have a bum kneee
> >
> > Sounds fine to me.
> >
> > >
> > > 2. Bowling: I don't care how much--you name the amount. I'm

in

> > decent
> > > shape and can practice enough to beat a nerd. Candle pins or
ten
> > > pins? Again, we have to wait until I'm cleared.
> >
> > When someone says "bowling" these days it's 10 pin. Candlepins
are
> > pretty much history (esp. outside of New England). Same amount

as

> > tennis is consistent with my previous offer. 10 games, total

pins.

>
> You mean $1000 a game? OK.

I really meant zero, since that is the bet for tennis. I didn't

want

to take advantage of you ... but $1000 a game is fine if that is

what

you want.

No, I said we'll go with what you propose here. Zero it is. They
enjoyment of serving you my turkeys will be payment enough.

>
> > > In your favor, I understand there'll be some sort of left

foot

> > slight
> > > movement restriction involved with this surgery after it's
> healed.
> > > Don't let that worry you.
> >
> > I won't.
>
> > > That's it. On or off? I'll announce it and the details in the
> paper
> > > before we play, and we'll see how many geeks show up to root
> > against
> > > me.
> >
> > On. When is your surgery? How much recovery time is required?
>
> I'm going to consult with the surgeeon on April 20th. I don't

know

> anything beyond that. But you best get in shape. Dump the beer

gut

so
> I don't feel so bad dismantling you on the court and the alleys.

Let me know. I can make most of May then it will probably be

October

before I'm available.

OK, if the Indians don't take all your money and you still have any
health left after experiencing 6 months of slimey health conditions
in LV casinos, we're good.

You're avoiding my comments on how a court would see your lifestyle
as told by me vs. your defense of such a stagnated degenerate living,
and how it would view your opinions of me here (you know, liar and
fraud, etc. etc.). Don't be worried. Just as with the radio jock--who
publicly broadcast slander on me time after time, I only like to take
individual's money in bets. Beating you in tennis will suffice for
all the nonsensical lies spewed about me, and after seeing you
welching in previous bets, I somewhat doubt you'll be all go when it
comes time to play. Good luck!

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > First, you need to open your eyes. I see you're copying over
your
> > > newsletter now, but still afraid of copying over that column.
> >
> > That means you've read it again,
>
> No.
>
> > are itching to comment on it,
>
> No.
>
> > but
> > don't want to appear anxious or as a Singer groupie by doing it.
>
> I just know it gets your goat.

What, your denials? You forget--dicky the denyer?!

Yup. You got it. Telling the truth requires me to deny your lies.

This stuff is
merely a side-isssue to the main expose' here about your problem

with

gambling. You know that 'transparent as saran wrap' comment of

truth

I've made several times?

I'm aware of your lie. However, it's gets hard to keep track of all
of them. That's why you're so well know as a LAF.

It was sent to me by a reader who won't get
involved with posting, but easily can determine, just like anyone
with a clear mind, that you & the missus are pathologically hooked
almost beyond hope to your video poker.

Of course it was. Funny how these mysterious models of mortality
never come out of the woodwork to support your idiotic claims.

>
>
> > By the
> > > way, you actually consider an advertisemnet for some TV show
that
> > > most people will miss to be valuable? Interesting.
> >
> > Huh? Why would most people 'miss it'? Are you implying

that 'most

> > people' are so addicted to vp that they'll be inside casinos

when

> it
> > was on?? Geek-thinking.
>
> Nope. I suspect most people that even take the time to read it
> wouldn't necessarily get to it right away.

Read what? Are you on narcotics for the knee?

We're dicussing your newsletter that you posted here. Try to keep up.

> > > > Oh I get it. You're getting a new place to downsize
> > >
> > > That's partially right. In addition, it will be easier to
> maintain
> > > and leave vacant for many months. It's part planning out

ones'

> life
> > > to get the most out of it. Of course, you wouldn't understand
> that.
> >
> > No, not with your mutated method of doing it all just so you

can

be
> > closer to the machines. It's what drives your life, and it
controls
> > everything about it.
>
> Nope. If what you said were true I'd be in LV all year round. You
> make such idiotic statements that anyone can tear apart in an
> instance. How do you do it?

Oh, you know what you're doing allright.

I know. Thank you.

> > > > There you are--more hypocracy! You used to claim I had no
math
> > > skills
> > >
> > > You claimed that the math behind AP was "voodoo math". I

think

> that
> > > statement says enough about your "math skills" for most

people.

> >
> > "Most people" to you are geeks and nerds who won't think or
listen
> to
> > anything but another of the same type fool. Wearing blinders

are

> what
> > you and they do best.
>
> What? Nothing to refute my factual statment? "Most people"

includes

> everyone that believes that math is real and describes the

universe

> we all live in. They might not be good at math, but they

recognize

> that the technology we have today is a direct result of that very
> same math you call "voodoo". If math applies to computers, cell
> phones, microwave ovens, etc. then they understand that it

applies

to VP. Some day you'll catch on.

That's just it! That's exactly where your blinders roll out and
install. All that other stuff is true until you start mumbling

about

a game whose final measureable result is from a human to machine
reaction. And no one can 'make up' theory about cell phones,
computers, mocrowaves, etc.

You mean that "made up" theory generated by those very same
computers, using that very same math, that make up designs for most
of the technology we have today. The strategies for VP are the simple
result of computer analysis of the games. Sorry, little man, but your
way over your head here. But, please continue to post this dribble
and let everyone see just what a complete idiot has to say.

That's why the geeks have taken on vp as
their theme when it comes time to create so much BS. 'Most people'
weould never see thru all the geek-nonsense. It took me to get that
part of the ball rolling.

ROTFLMAO. I'm glad to see you're taking credit for DENIAL of computer
generated design (that's all a strategy is). That puts you at the top
of the class of all the techno-weenies in the world. Congrats.

>
> > > > so that's why I lost at 'perfect play' for 6 years.
> > >
> > > So you say. I haven't seen anything here to support that you
> played
> > > anywhere near perfectly. Sure, you could have just been at

the

> > bottem
> > > of the bell curve, but I suspect there was much more to it.
> >
> > No one knows how anyone else plays, and it's for certain no one
> even knows how THEY THEMSELVES play.
>
> You can get a reasonable idea using the software available today.

Wrong. First, that software isn't programmed nearly the way it is
into vp machines.

Here we go again. LMAO. This is beyond funny. What a complete moron.
The errors (which is what we are discussing) are ANY variation from
the computer generated strategy. They have NOTHING to do with how the
game is played out. As for how the game is played out, it is RANDOM,
as required by law in NV and most other jurisdictions. I'm so glad
you decided to demonstrate to everyone that you have ABSOLUTELY no
idea what you're talking about.

I'm surprised you even said that being an ex-
programmer.

That's because you're lying. And you've been caught ... again.

Then, even if it were, playing at home with no pressure
and for free is a whole lot different than risking money at a

casino.

It's actually more difficult at home (at least for me). There's no
money on the line and a lot more distractions.

For most, playing at home grows a separate set of gonads that
instantly disappear once they step foot inside casinos.

I think this describes Robbie pretty well. We're starting to get a
picture of why he failed as an APer.

>
> > You make far more errors than you
> > know, and just like being a vp junkie, you'll never admit to

that

> > either.
>
> No, I factor them into all my plays. I suspect you never did that.

Good for you, but you would be the first one to factually announce
that you had no idea just how many mistakes you really do make--and
when....or if they've even cost you anything or won you a bundle

over

the years.

Didn't say that. Although it depends on the game I like to be
conservative and assume a large error rate. That way I'm forced to
look for the better plays. A psychological trick ... yes, but it
works.

> > > > > No guessing on my part. Just the facts, as usual. That's

a

> big
> > > > > difference between us, I get the facts before making
> statements.
> > > >
> > > > Then where's the factual evidence on him?? Or is it more
> > > hypocracy....
> > >
> > > Justs the facts. Remember YOU were the one who stated

otherwise

> > > without providing a shred of evidence. It's pretty obvious
> exactly
> > > who is the hypocrite. If you want to find out if I'm telling
the
> > > truth, go ask him. Please report your findings RIGHT HERE

along

> > with an admission that you were wrong.
> >
> > You put too much concern into other people's affairs. Who

besides

> an
> > idiot like you worries about evidence of that type? Elliot is a
> > nobody just like you, and few if any ever read his nonsense.
>
> Hmmmm, I think Rob just made a self assessment.

I'm still waiting for you not to look more stupid by providing just
one of your "facts before I make a statement" on this guy. Support
your own methodology once even--for a change.

You're the one who brought it up. We all know it's up to you to back
up your statement or admit you guessed/lied ... although I do have
the advantage of KNOWing the TRUTH so you won't be able to bluff your
way out.

>
> > > > > > Yup, and for 12 for the Queen and who knows for

Dancer??

> Sure
> > > > helps
> > > > > > to over-inflate the value of all those buffets and T-
shirts
> > and
> > > > > > propeller-topped beanies!!
> > > > >
> > > > > You've tried that before. The comps are never taken into
> > account
> > > in
> > > > > my results.
> > > >
> > > > LAlalalalala....On and on with the BS and lies. Keep

burying

> > > yourself.
> > >
> > > Just the facts, as always. I'm sure if you got a picture of

me

> from
> > > the Edgewater you also checked into my results. Isn't it
telling
> > that you haven't posted anything here about them? Must be that
big
> > PLUS sign.
> >
> > I've got your results, and all you'll do is DENY them. The FACT
is
> > you're not the brute you portray yourself as there. And

remember

> > little dicky, I SAW a pic of you and the missus, not GOT one.
Keep
> > the facts straight once in a while please.
>
> We all know it's right there under your pillow. Don't be shy,

admit

> it.
>
> I know exactly what my results are. I also know there's a plus
sign. Of course, you'd never mention the TRUTH.

From what I've seen you can easily come out to a 'plus sign' once

you

throw in all the free cash they handed out to you

Could Robbie have lied about knowing my results??? I've never picked
up a penny of free cash there. Caught with your pants down again,
little man?

(that you played
away into oblivion BTW)

Maybe 4-5 hours altogether.

the rooms,

None.

the meals

One.

---anyone can over-
inflate the comps to create a positive situation just like I say

all

the time. Those who play daily HAVE to tell themselves they're

ahead

in one way or another. Otherwise, the justification for all that
compulsive playing begins to turn on them and plays with their

minds.

You sure are doing a wonderful job of looking foolish. Keep up the
good work. PS. Just so you won't be too confused any longer I was in
Laughlin one night and played at both Edgewater and Ramada (where I
stayed). I had 3RFs (now known as a clump) and came out way, way
ahead. I wonder if anyone now believes you saw a picture of me or
that you have an "IN" with any casino employees like you claim

> > For many others, they are important, and they figure them
> > > > > into their results.
> > > >
> > > > You don't know anything about anyone else because

compulsive

> > > gamblers only focus on themselves and their gambling.
> > >
> > > Lie. Many people have posted on VPfree that comps are exactly
> what
> > > they are looking to maximize. You're back to making foolish

and

> > > idiotic replies, Robbie. Could it be frustration?
> >
> > vpFREE?? You live and die by those squealers, don't you! That's
why
> > you love to post there. Most of them are so stupid and wouldn't
> know
> > the truth if it ran over them, it gives you confidence when
> > you 'supplement' their input with your fantasy.
>
> Fact is, what I stated was true. All you came back with is more

of

> your babbling excuses to avoid admitting the TRUTH.

If you ever post ONE fact that's even close to being true without
your required selective feel-good interpretations, it would be a
miracle.

No, it would be business as usual.

> > > > Of course, you forgot to subtract out
> > > > > all your losses in the past, so you are not $670K ahead

in

> your
> > > > > own "history".
> > > >
> > > > Since I "smartened up". Re-read it, and try again.
> > >
> > > Sorry, moron, but you can't arbitrarily subtract out some
losses
> > and
> > > make claims. What a fraud!
> >
> > Looks clear....so clear that you don't like it! Another victory
for
> > the master!!
>
> Is this the same method you used to come up with 640K or 650K or
> 670K ... whatever it is today?

Minus $250 thru '96/plus $683k since with a strategy that makes
sense. What you want to see is +$433 overall. OK.

OK.

> > > > > > Sorry, but the respect just flows this way like powered
by
> a
> > > > dynamo!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure it does. That's why you keep selling those 10s of
copies
> > of
> > > > your
> > > > > book. However, you almost had it right. You just

accidently

> > left
> > > > > the "dis" off in front of "respect".
> > > >
> > > > I sense a little discomfort in your response. BTW--that's
> another
> > > > sign that the uncomforting truth is nearby.
> > >
> > > Now I see where you misplaced the "dis". LMAO.
> >
> > ??? You're floating away in this post little dicky. I'm not
getting
> > your drift.
>
> What a surprise. You need to read WITH comprehension to

understand.

> You mentioned you got "respect" and I said you left of the "dis"
> which makes it "disrespect" (which is all you do get). Now you
> mentioned "discomfort" for me and I stated that was where you
> misplaced the "dis" (in front of "comfort" rather

than "respect").

> Let's see if Robbie can figure it out now. He is pretty slow.

Oh. How important. Only a nerd would go thru all that. Next you'll
point out punctuation 'mis'cues.

LMAO. It does take a lot of effort to educate Robbie, but it brings
me so much pleasure.

> > > > > They'll all win sometimes and all lose sometimes. OVER

TIME

> the
> > > > > better paytables will do better. It's all so simple.
> > > >
> > > > And that's where you're lost. All you have to do is take

the

> > money
> > > > home once in a while and feel better as well as deposit it
and
> > > don't
> > > > gamble it away.
> > >
> > > You mean like the 3 deposits I've made in the last two weeks.
> >
> > No, like the THREE deposits I've made this year without loss

for

> over
> > $33k. And it's all because I know how to get up and leave--
> something
> > compulsive 'advantage players' never learned to do.
> > 3 deposits in 2 weeks? That means you lost 11 times!! HAHA!!
>
> No, it actually means I don't run to the bank all the time.
However,
> get your story straight, I've lost more than 11 times. Small
losses, big wins.

Whatever the pathetic win ratio you experience, it makes no sense

to

play that boring way. I much rather prefer--as would anyone--big

wins

and few losses--big or small.

Who wouldn't. Of course, reality requires a different approach. Next
you'll be telling us of the Singer lottery technique to guarantee
those REALLY big wins.

So far I have zero losses this year (6-
0 on 3 trips) but I've only had one royal. Now if I were Dancer--or
you--I'd be proclaiming "I know things will get better tomorrow".

In

my case, I do know that because I can do a lot better IF I have to

go

to the higher limits.

Of course you do.

> > > > > > Of course it is, because each session is "any single
> session"
> > > > > > dipstick.
> > > > >
> > > > > No one wins "each session". So the only way to judge

ones'

> > > results
> > > > is
> > > > > to add up these sessions. That's the wonder of "over

time".

> > > >
> > > > I see you're still confused and still play thru all your
> > jackpots.
> > > > Too bad. Just what the casinos want.
> > >
> > > Won last year, and the year before, and ahead this year. What
> part
> > of
> > > that don't you understand? Like I've said before, I play

around

3
> > > hours a day. Doesn't matter what I get on any given day, I

just

> add
> > > up the results at the end of the year.
> >
> > This sounds like hearing the Queen scramble around for words

that

> her
> > subjects want to hear so they won't stop buying junk. You're

one

> > level below that as a nobody, and STILL you like to make things
up
> > about your play!
>
> Just the facts, as usual.

Thank you for supporting me again.

Nice try, but we all know that the TRUTH supports very little of what
you say. Now that you've been caught lying again, it's getting harder
and harder for anyone to believe anything you say. You'd hope
teacuplily would know better now, but instead he chooses to blame the
casino (and, of course, you support that). You are a LAF.

>
> > >
> > > > > > I guess you never read the ones by GBC & GT. Hmmm...
> Imagine
> > > that-
> > > > -
> > > > > > THE 2 most respected and longest tenured gaming
publication
> > > > houses
> > > > > > in the history of gaming, actually understanding and
> > supporting
> > > > > me??
> > > > >
> > > > > And, trying to make a buck. That's called advertising,
moron,
> > not
> > > > > reviewing.
> > > >
> > > > But gee little dicky, how could they 'make a buck' on me if
I'm
> > > > spewing nonsense, am a liar and a fraud, and no one buys

any

of
> > > what
> > > > I say???
> > >
> > > Still called advertising. Just like a TV network that calls a
> show
> > > the "best ..." and cancels it two weeks later.
> >
> > But gee little dicky, I wasn't cancelled "two weeks later"!!!
>
> There's a lot more bookshelf space than TV time slots.

???

You do lose the train of thought quite easily. Must be all the
alcohol.

>
> >
> > They're a business who
> > > wants to sell product. That's all it is, moron. Are you

really

> this
> > > naive?
> >
> > Interesting. You saying no one buys my book on one hand, then

you

> say
> > it sells because there must be a ton of people who like to hear
> fraud
> > and lies. Get your stories straight--here's another chance.
>
> I didn't say either one.

Should have expected the easy way out again.... Denial when it's

all

there in B&W.

I will always deny your lies. Let's educcate again. I said 10s of
copies, not "no one buys" your book. I said people probably read your
column (not your book) for laughs. Now, do you have it straight or do
we need to go over it again?

>
> > > > All your make believe money-making charges aside....When

did

> you
> > > > start believing that there's anything positive about ANY
> > addiction?
> > >
> > > I didn't say it was positive. Just neutral. If an addiction

has

> no
> > > NEGATIVE consequences then it is neutral.
> >
> > So now you've decided to reconsider what you said before.
>
> Nope.
>
> > Good idea
> > to save face. However, your weasel-wording didn't buy you
anything
> > and only made you look dumber and more of a denyer. By

continuing

> to
> > squander away the truth about addiction you're simply digging
> > yourself a larger hole to flop into when the rubber hits the

road-

-
> or
> > in your case, when your wife discovered where all the money
you've
> > been telling her you've won and deposited just disappeared.
> > A "neutral addiction".
>
> Not my words.

And they never will be. DENIAL is on your side and a major part of
your life right now, remember?

Yes, denial of your lies is, and always will be, a major part of my
responses.

>
> > >
> > > > You need to read up on your links more. Anyone who's ever
> talked
> > to
> > > a
> > > > compulsive behaviour counselor hears those words in the

first

> > > > discussion. What makes you have the need for that not to be
> true?
> > > OK,
> > > > I know gambling addicts won't accept any facts that might

cut

> > into
> > > > their habit. Just reply with a ? and we'll understand.
> > >
> > > We all know about your need to call all successful gamblers
> > addicts.
> > > It's still your modus operandi and appears like it always

will

> be.
> > I
> > > suspect very few successful gamblers are addicts so it really
> makes
> > > little difference. However, I will stick to my claim that an
> > > addiction that has no negative side effects is NOT a problem.
Go
> > back
> > > a reread the links, moron, they're about "gambling problems".
> >
> > And the violin plays on..... The violin of sadness, denial, and
> > anxiety. "Addictions are neutral so they're good" & "AP's

aren't

> > addicts". Man alive, you really are diseased.
>
> You really have got this thing for addiction. You still have the
NEED
> and can't let go. You are so pathetic that you NEED to call
everyone
> else an addict to ease the pain of your own weakness.

Nope, just calling a spade a spade from experience.

Yep. Just like I said. YOUR EXPERIENCE. The one you NEED to apply to
everyone else. You are either too stupid or too vain to allow that
most of us fall into the 97% that are not addicted.

You're just
entering that phase of learning, and denial is so much a part of

your

life now that you won't agree with anything said against you for a
long time.

Yes, I guess I must be "entering" that short phase with over 25 years
part time gambling and 8 years as an APer. You really can call 'em,
little man.

It is so
> completely obvious to everyone why you carry on like this. Sorry,
> Robbie, my boy, but the majority of us don't have your weakness.

We

> can gamble for profit and not fall victim to its' downside.

Of course you can't little dicky. Why, you and the other 'AP's" who
play daily have no chance of becoming compulsive gamblers because

you

don't GAMBLE!

You claimed to have read those links I posted but now you come back
and say the opposite of what is there. Robbie, my boy, one either has
compulsive tendencies or they don't. It is not a learned attribute.
But hey, keep up the good work. You have outdone yourself this time
in posting complete nonsense and obvious lies.

So,
> please, continue with your useless rhetoric all you want. All it
does is emphasize your own failure.

Even that quack Dr. Phil would easily see how you like to

marginalize

what you've done to you and your wife. You've turned your

retirement

into a one-dimentional life....one that's in a rut to nowhere and
going downhill at an increasing rate of speed. I talk to 'AP's" all
the time who've finally admitted their mistakes. I even wrote about

a

high-rolling one with a real name last month. There's really not a
lot you can do about it though until you face it like a man--which

i

know is waaaay difficult for a nerd.

The nonsense (with a little babbling for good measure) continues. I
love it.

>
> > > > > > I believe you're a bit ruffled by the fact that you've
been
> > > > > > identified as a pot-bellied pig & pathological liar.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see, a pot bellied pig with feathers. Is that a

metaphor

> for
> > > how
> > > > > I'm constantly dumping the facts on you?
> >
> > ??? More Americana??
>
> Catching up are you? Boy I get tired of explaining these things
that
> everyone else gets the first time.

I guess I can live without the punchline.

I'll give you a hint ... "ruffled".

>
> > > >
> > > > Seeks your history of 'dumping facts' has been riddled with
> error
> > > > almost every post. I think you're 'dumping' something else.
> > >
> > > Just the facts, as usual.
> >
> > No, it smells all the way here. It's definitely something else.
>
> I've always suspected you were allergic to the TRUTH. Must effect
> your olfactory sense.

As long as it leaves my common sense alone.

Can't effect something you don't have.

> > > > > Sounds like more lies and more scrambling to me. By the
way,
> > > which
> > > > > one of your careers was so successful?
> > > >
> > > > Why, both! To your disdain and to my enjoyment--not
necessarily
> > > over
> > > > the careers!
> > >
> > > I see, you considered your results in your AP career to be
> > > successful. Kind of puts everything in perspective.
> >
> > ??? AGAIN? You said you didn't drink, correct?
>
> Correct.
>
> >
> > > > > > > The study used 'average', what part of that don't you
> > > > understand?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's just it, genius. AVERAGE people go to the

resorts

> > > because
> > > > > > above-average folks just don't make gambling trips. How
> thick
> > > you
> > > > > be?
> > > > >
> > > > > It's amazing that you will argue against a study that's
only
> > > > purpose
> > > > > was to find out what a cross-section of the gambling
> population
> > > > > looked like. You simply look foolish when you ramble on
like
> > this.
> > > >
> > > > Too much info-overload for you little dicky. Say so and

I'll

> slow
> > > > down.
> > >
> > > Please keep up the foolish remarks. Don't slow down on my
account.
> >
> > At least half of the subjects in this e-mail were avoided by

you.

> Are
> > you THAT rattled?
>
> Not in the least. You don't even know how foolish you look. LMAO.

If you even got part of that - and weren't a geek - you'd be
responding with something solid right now.

Nope, just grinning.

>
> >
> > > > It's readily apparent you're cornered in the betting dept.,
and
> > you
> > > > consistently need to re-read and look up your selective
> responses
> > > on
> > > > bowling, radio gigs, and tennis nonsense. Let's get to the
> bottom
> > > > line and start over--you either accept or decline, no bet
> raising
> > > by
> > > > either of us, no scrambling around by you because you're
> > > > uncomfortable, and no declining simply because I made the
> offers.
> > I
> > > > understand you won't bet me on the radio doc's thing

because

> you
> > > > stated you subsequently believed what I said. So we'll

forget

> > that.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Tennis--best of 7, but only when my Doctor says I can
> proceed
> > > > after the operation on my foot. No money--just some of
> > > > your "gamesmanship". Because I've played an average of 2-3
> times
> > > per
> > > > week for years now and you have a bum kneee
> > >
> > > Sounds fine to me.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. Bowling: I don't care how much--you name the amount. I'm
in
> > > decent
> > > > shape and can practice enough to beat a nerd. Candle pins

or

> ten
> > > > pins? Again, we have to wait until I'm cleared.
> > >
> > > When someone says "bowling" these days it's 10 pin.

Candlepins

> are
> > > pretty much history (esp. outside of New England). Same

amount

as
> > > tennis is consistent with my previous offer. 10 games, total
pins.
> >
> > You mean $1000 a game? OK.
>
> I really meant zero, since that is the bet for tennis. I didn't
want
> to take advantage of you ... but $1000 a game is fine if that is
what
> you want.

No, I said we'll go with what you propose here. Zero it is. They
enjoyment of serving you my turkeys will be payment enough.
>
> >
> > > > In your favor, I understand there'll be some sort of left
foot
> > > slight
> > > > movement restriction involved with this surgery after it's
> > healed.
> > > > Don't let that worry you.
> > >
> > > I won't.
> >
> > > > That's it. On or off? I'll announce it and the details in

the

> > paper
> > > > before we play, and we'll see how many geeks show up to

root

> > > against
> > > > me.
> > >
> > > On. When is your surgery? How much recovery time is required?
> >
> > I'm going to consult with the surgeeon on April 20th. I don't
know
> > anything beyond that. But you best get in shape. Dump the beer
gut
> so
> > I don't feel so bad dismantling you on the court and the alleys.
>
> Let me know. I can make most of May then it will probably be
October
> before I'm available.

OK, if the Indians don't take all your money and you still have any
health left after experiencing 6 months of slimey health conditions
in LV casinos, we're good.

LV casinos? What part of snowbird don't you understand?

You're avoiding my comments on how a court would see your lifestyle
as told by me vs. your defense of such a stagnated degenerate

living,

Depends on the jury make-up. In the bible belt either one of us would
be convicted for simply stepping foot in a casino. However, assuming
an unpredjudiced jury, I would have no problem winning. The facts
have a way of convincing people.

and how it would view your opinions of me here (you know, liar and
fraud, etc. etc.).

I think that's pretty obvious given your lies in this post alone.

Don't be worried. Just as with the radio jock--who
publicly broadcast slander on me time after time, I only like to

take

individual's money in bets. Beating you in tennis will suffice for
all the nonsensical lies spewed about me, and after seeing you
welching in previous bets, I somewhat doubt you'll be all go when

it

comes time to play. Good luck!

Don't cling too much to that "doubt". It will most certainly bite you
in the end.

> What, your denials? You forget--dicky the denyer?!

Yup. You got it. Telling the truth requires me to deny your lies.

What's this--something else you missed out on in life when you were
living a theory? You can only deny that which is true about yourself
when you just don't want it to be that way. Others you 'disagree'
with. Now that'll be $4.95 for this lesson.

> This stuff is
> merely a side-isssue to the main expose' here about your problem
with
> gambling. You know that 'transparent as saran wrap' comment of
truth
> I've made several times?

I'm aware of your lie. However, it's gets hard to keep track of all
of them. That's why you're so well know as a LAF.

What's a LAF?

> It was sent to me by a reader who won't get
> involved with posting, but easily can determine, just like anyone
> with a clear mind, that you & the missus are pathologically

hooked

> almost beyond hope to your video poker.

Of course it was. Funny how these mysterious models of mortality
never come out of the woodwork to support your idiotic claims.

They do, only every time it happens you choose to run and hide behind
your "another RS alias?" routine. I just saw a guy post about playing
negative games on vpFREE at the RIO and using what looked like a
variation of my method, he hit 2 RF's on the $2 machine in I think 4
or 5 sessions. Of course it put some of the geeks there on tilt, but
that's vpFREE for you. When you gonna chime in over there and support
your pahntom-buck geeks?
What's a "mysterious model of immortality"?

> > > Huh? Why would most people 'miss it'? Are you implying
that 'most
> > > people' are so addicted to vp that they'll be inside casinos
when
> > it
> > > was on?? Geek-thinking.
> >
> > Nope. I suspect most people that even take the time to read it
> > wouldn't necessarily get to it right away.
>
> Read what? Are you on narcotics for the knee?

We're dicussing your newsletter that you posted here. Try to keep

up.

It's your grammar, little dicky....your grammar that caused that.
  

> > > > > Oh I get it. You're getting a new place to downsize
> > > >
> > > > That's partially right. In addition, it will be easier to
> > maintain
> > > > and leave vacant for many months. It's part planning out
ones'
> > life
> > > > to get the most out of it. Of course, you wouldn't

understand

> > that.
> > >
> > > No, not with your mutated method of doing it all just so you
can
> be
> > > closer to the machines. It's what drives your life, and it
> controls
> > > everything about it.
> >
> > Nope. If what you said were true I'd be in LV all year round.

You

> > make such idiotic statements that anyone can tear apart in an
> > instance. How do you do it?

I enjoy watching you unravel as you deny everything about your
illness.

>
> Oh, you know what you're doing allright.

I know. Thank you.
> > > > You claimed that the math behind AP was "voodoo math". I
think
> > that
> > > > statement says enough about your "math skills" for most
people.
> > >
> > > "Most people" to you are geeks and nerds who won't think or
> listen
> > to
> > > anything but another of the same type fool. Wearing blinders
are
> > what
> > > you and they do best.
> >
> > What? Nothing to refute my factual statment? "Most people"
includes
> > everyone that believes that math is real and describes the
universe
> > we all live in. They might not be good at math, but they
recognize
> > that the technology we have today is a direct result of that

very

> > same math you call "voodoo". If math applies to computers, cell
> > phones, microwave ovens, etc. then they understand that it
applies
> to VP. Some day you'll catch on.
>
> That's just it! That's exactly where your blinders roll out and
> install. All that other stuff is true until you start mumbling
about
> a game whose final measureable result is from a human to machine
> reaction. And no one can 'make up' theory about cell phones,
> computers, mocrowaves, etc.

You mean that "made up" theory generated by those very same
computers, using that very same math, that make up designs for most
of the technology we have today.

Yup. There're all indisputable facts until you step over the geek-
line and proclaim humans can operate exactly the same as computers
over an amount of time that leans towards infinity.

The strategies for VP are the simple

result of computer analysis of the games. Sorry, little man, but

your

way over your head here. But, please continue to post this dribble
and let everyone see just what a complete idiot has to say.

Classroom vs. reality again. It's posts like these that I get the
most mileage out of as I rip them to shreds to the delight of my many
readers--many whom are scientists and are much more geekier than you
think you are.

> That's why the geeks have taken on vp as
> their theme when it comes time to create so much BS. 'Most

people'

> weould never see thru all the geek-nonsense. It took me to get

that

> part of the ball rolling.

ROTFLMAO. I'm glad to see you're taking credit for DENIAL of

computer

generated design (that's all a strategy is). That puts you at the

top

of the class of all the techno-weenies in the world. Congrats.

Computer generated design? HAHAHA!! What a joke!! You're masquerading
as a clown today, right?

> > > No one knows how anyone else plays, and it's for certain no

one

> > even knows how THEY THEMSELVES play.
> >
> > You can get a reasonable idea using the software available

today.

>
> Wrong. First, that software isn't programmed nearly the way it is
> into vp machines.

Here we go again. LMAO. This is beyond funny. What a complete

moron.

The errors (which is what we are discussing) are ANY variation from
the computer generated strategy. They have NOTHING to do with how

the

game is played out. As for how the game is played out, it is

RANDOM,

as required by law in NV and most other jurisdictions. I'm so glad
you decided to demonstrate to everyone that you have ABSOLUTELY no
idea what you're talking about.

Are you really that naaive?? You need to go back to my site and read
where the vp machines IN NEVADA, as verified to me by a S/W engineer
there (notice I don't go down to the weeny 'programmer' level) and as
I was asked to and agreed from further publication, once management
read it in GT, that the machines are indeed programmed to run in a
few hot and many cold cycles. The word 'random' in the regulation is
adhered to and maintained nonetheless. If it's too difficult for you
to understand I'll explain it face-to-face with you next month.
Engineers have no trouble understanding what this means, but you
aren't one now, are you.

> I'm surprised you even said that being an ex-
> programmer.

That's because you're lying. And you've been caught ... again.

Let me know when you're ready for that lesson.

> Then, even if it were, playing at home with no pressure
> and for free is a whole lot different than risking money at a
casino.

It's actually more difficult at home (at least for me). There's no
money on the line and a lot more distractions.

Well I stand corrected. With a wife who's always itching to head for
the casinos and you yourself who just can't wait to go, I understand.

> For most, playing at home grows a separate set of gonads that
> instantly disappear once they step foot inside casinos.

I think this describes Robbie pretty well. We're starting to get a
picture of why he failed as an APer.

Only problem is, I don't play at home. I did my studying and
practicing on airplanes. Can I say STRIKE THREE CALL--you didn't even
get a swing in on that one!

> >
> > > You make far more errors than you
> > > know, and just like being a vp junkie, you'll never admit to
that
> > > either.
> >
> > No, I factor them into all my plays. I suspect you never did

that.

>
> Good for you, but you would be the first one to factually

announce

> that you had no idea just how many mistakes you really do make--

and

> when....or if they've even cost you anything or won you a bundle
over
> the years.

Didn't say that. Although it depends on the game I like to be
conservative and assume a large error rate. That way I'm forced to
look for the better plays. A psychological trick ... yes, but it
works.

I'm not gonna argue that. I see you play psychological tricks with
yourself all the time here, so you're probably an expert at it when
it comes to your make believe world too.

> I'm still waiting for you not to look more stupid by providing

just

> one of your "facts before I make a statement" on this guy.

Support

> your own methodology once even--for a change.

You're the one who brought it up.

So what. You made an assertion so back it up.

We all know it's up to you to back

up your statement or admit you guessed/lied ... although I do have
the advantage of KNOWing the TRUTH so you won't be able to bluff

your way out.

Then support it or look even dumber than Elliot.

> > > > > LAlalalalala....On and on with the BS and lies. Keep
burying
> > > > yourself.
> > > >
> > > > Just the facts, as always. I'm sure if you got a picture of
me
> > from
> > > > the Edgewater you also checked into my results. Isn't it
> telling
> > > that you haven't posted anything here about them? Must be

that

> big
> > > PLUS sign.
> > >
> > > I've got your results, and all you'll do is DENY them. The

FACT

> is
> > > you're not the brute you portray yourself as there. And
remember
> > > little dicky, I SAW a pic of you and the missus, not GOT one.
> Keep
> > > the facts straight once in a while please.
> >
> > We all know it's right there under your pillow. Don't be shy,
admit
> > it.
> >
> > I know exactly what my results are. I also know there's a plus
> sign. Of course, you'd never mention the TRUTH.
>
> From what I've seen you can easily come out to a 'plus sign' once
you
> throw in all the free cash they handed out to you

Could Robbie have lied about knowing my results??? I've never

picked

up a penny of free cash there. Caught with your pants down again,
little man?

Liar. You use your out-of-state address there and they send cash
offers to you. My pants aren't down. I'm not wearing any right now.

> ---anyone can over-
> inflate the comps to create a positive situation just like I say
all
> the time. Those who play daily HAVE to tell themselves they're
ahead
> in one way or another. Otherwise, the justification for all that
> compulsive playing begins to turn on them and plays with their
minds.

You sure are doing a wonderful job of looking foolish. Keep up the
good work. PS. Just so you won't be too confused any longer I was

in

Laughlin one night and played at both Edgewater and Ramada (where I
stayed). I had 3RFs (now known as a clump) and came out way, way
ahead. I wonder if anyone now believes you saw a picture of me or
that you have an "IN" with any casino employees like you claim

So how many months did it take you to finally come up with something
to dispute my claim?? You said it all right there.
A "clump". That's funny. When I came back from a trip to
LV/Laughlin/Lake Tahoe/Reno/SF/Oregon two years ago and I wrote a
post and article explaining how I hit 3 RF's (50c/$2/$10) in 24hrs.,
all the jealous people wrote in to my publisher and said they wanted
proof because they just couldn't believe it--which I sent out via the
editor. So let's see your proof--or were they all on e-em, quarters!?

>
> > > For many others, they are important, and they figure them
> > > > > > into their results.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't know anything about anyone else because
compulsive
> > > > gamblers only focus on themselves and their gambling.
> > > >
> > > > Lie. Many people have posted on VPfree that comps are

exactly

> > what
> > > > they are looking to maximize. You're back to making foolish
and
> > > > idiotic replies, Robbie. Could it be frustration?
> > >
> > > vpFREE?? You live and die by those squealers, don't you!

That's

> why
> > > you love to post there. Most of them are so stupid and

wouldn't

> > know
> > > the truth if it ran over them, it gives you confidence when
> > > you 'supplement' their input with your fantasy.
> >
> > Fact is, what I stated was true. All you came back with is more
of
> > your babbling excuses to avoid admitting the TRUTH.

Gee, it's not like you'd deny something or anything like that now, is
it.

>
> If you ever post ONE fact that's even close to being true without
> your required selective feel-good interpretations, it would be a
> miracle.

No, it would be business as usual.

You mean BS as usual.

> > > > > Of course, you forgot to subtract out
> > > > > > all your losses in the past, so you are not $670K ahead
in
> > your
> > > > > > own "history".
> > > > >
> > > > > Since I "smartened up". Re-read it, and try again.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, moron, but you can't arbitrarily subtract out some
> losses
> > > and
> > > > make claims. What a fraud!
> > >
> > > Looks clear....so clear that you don't like it! Another

victory

> for
> > > the master!!
> >
> > Is this the same method you used to come up with 640K or 650K

or

> > 670K ... whatever it is today?
>
> Minus $250 thru '96/plus $683k since with a strategy that makes
> sense. What you want to see is +$433 overall. OK.

OK.
> > What a surprise. You need to read WITH comprehension to
understand.
> > You mentioned you got "respect" and I said you left of

the "dis"

> > which makes it "disrespect" (which is all you do get). Now you
> > mentioned "discomfort" for me and I stated that was where you
> > misplaced the "dis" (in front of "comfort" rather
than "respect").
> > Let's see if Robbie can figure it out now. He is pretty slow.
>
> Oh. How important. Only a nerd would go thru all that. Next

you'll

> point out punctuation 'mis'cues.

LMAO. It does take a lot of effort to educate Robbie, but it brings
me so much pleasure.

You have to enjoy sSOMETHING in life other than sitting endlessly at
the machines, so why not on something that controls your inner-life--
me!

> > > > You mean like the 3 deposits I've made in the last two

weeks.

> > >
> > > No, like the THREE deposits I've made this year without loss
for
> > over
> > > $33k. And it's all because I know how to get up and leave--
> > something
> > > compulsive 'advantage players' never learned to do.
> > > 3 deposits in 2 weeks? That means you lost 11 times!! HAHA!!
> >
> > No, it actually means I don't run to the bank all the time.
> However,
> > get your story straight, I've lost more than 11 times. Small
> losses, big wins.
>
> Whatever the pathetic win ratio you experience, it makes no sense
to
> play that boring way. I much rather prefer--as would anyone--big
wins
> and few losses--big or small.

Who wouldn't. Of course, reality requires a different approach.

Next

you'll be telling us of the Singer lottery technique to guarantee
those REALLY big wins.

Such envy.....

> So far I have zero losses this year (6-
> 0 on 3 trips) but I've only had one royal. Now if I were Dancer--

or

> you--I'd be proclaiming "I know things will get better tomorrow".
In
> my case, I do know that because I can do a lot better IF I have

to

go
> to the higher limits.

Of course you do.

Just like you, and just like your hero.

> > > > > I see you're still confused and still play thru all your
> > > jackpots.
> > > > > Too bad. Just what the casinos want.
> > > >
> > > > Won last year, and the year before, and ahead this year.

What

> > part
> > > of
> > > > that don't you understand? Like I've said before, I play
around
> 3
> > > > hours a day. Doesn't matter what I get on any given day, I
just
> > add
> > > > up the results at the end of the year.
> > >
> > > This sounds like hearing the Queen scramble around for words
that
> > her
> > > subjects want to hear so they won't stop buying junk. You're
one
> > > level below that as a nobody, and STILL you like to make

things

> up
> > > about your play!
> >
> > Just the facts, as usual.
>
> Thank you for supporting me again.

Nice try, but we all know that the TRUTH supports very little of

what

you say.

This TRUTH is What?

Now that you've been caught lying again, it's getting harder

and harder for anyone to believe anything you say. You'd hope
teacuplily would know better now, but instead he chooses to blame

the

casino (and, of course, you support that). You are a LAF.

Fact is fact. AC machines are biased, and only die-hard fans of video
poker played on any venue--such as you--and folks such as Harry
Porter swear by the legitimacy of those machines. Some people have
to. They can't get to Nv. often enough to get a crack at winning
something for a change, so they need to justify and feel good about
doing it.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > I guess you never read the ones by GBC & GT. Hmmm...
> > Imagine
> > > > that-
> > > > > -
> > > > > > > THE 2 most respected and longest tenured gaming
> publication
> > > > > houses
> > > > > > > in the history of gaming, actually understanding and
> > > supporting
> > > > > > me??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And, trying to make a buck. That's called advertising,
> moron,
> > > not
> > > > > > reviewing.
> > > > >
> > > > > But gee little dicky, how could they 'make a buck' on me

if

> I'm
> > > > > spewing nonsense, am a liar and a fraud, and no one buys
any
> of
> > > > what
> > > > > I say???
> > > >
> > > > Still called advertising. Just like a TV network that calls

a

> > show
> > > > the "best ..." and cancels it two weeks later.
> > >
> > > But gee little dicky, I wasn't cancelled "two weeks later"!!!
> >
> > There's a lot more bookshelf space than TV time slots.
>
> ???

You do lose the train of thought quite easily. Must be all the
alcohol.

If there were a train here I'd know it.

> >
> > >
> > > They're a business who
> > > > wants to sell product. That's all it is, moron. Are you
really
> > this
> > > > naive?
> > >
> > > Interesting. You saying no one buys my book on one hand, then
you
> > say
> > > it sells because there must be a ton of people who like to

hear

> > fraud
> > > and lies. Get your stories straight--here's another chance.
> >
> > I didn't say either one.
>
> Should have expected the easy way out again.... Denial when it's
all
> there in B&W.

I will always deny your lies. Let's educcate again. I said 10s of
copies, not "no one buys" your book. I said people probably read

your

column (not your book) for laughs. Now, do you have it straight or

do

we need to go over it again?

Making it all up on the fly again? BTW--what's "10's of copies" mean?
Do you choose there to be an infinite answer, or are you going to
limit it so you won't look too stupiud?

> >
> > > > > All your make believe money-making charges aside....When
did
> > you
> > > > > start believing that there's anything positive about ANY
> > > addiction?
> > > >
> > > > I didn't say it was positive. Just neutral. If an addiction
has
> > no
> > > > NEGATIVE consequences then it is neutral.
> > >
> > > So now you've decided to reconsider what you said before.
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > > Good idea
> > > to save face. However, your weasel-wording didn't buy you
> anything
> > > and only made you look dumber and more of a denyer. By
continuing
> > to
> > > squander away the truth about addiction you're simply digging
> > > yourself a larger hole to flop into when the rubber hits the
road-
> -
> > or
> > > in your case, when your wife discovered where all the money
> you've
> > > been telling her you've won and deposited just disappeared.
> > > A "neutral addiction".
> >
> > Not my words.

Certainly not--today.....

>
> And they never will be. DENIAL is on your side and a major part

of

> your life right now, remember?

Yes, denial of your lies is, and always will be, a major part of my
responses.

Remember denial's meaning.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > You need to read up on your links more. Anyone who's ever
> > talked
> > > to
> > > > a
> > > > > compulsive behaviour counselor hears those words in the
first
> > > > > discussion. What makes you have the need for that not to

be

> > true?
> > > > OK,
> > > > > I know gambling addicts won't accept any facts that might
cut
> > > into
> > > > > their habit. Just reply with a ? and we'll understand.
> > > >
> > > > We all know about your need to call all successful gamblers
> > > addicts.
> > > > It's still your modus operandi and appears like it always
will
> > be.
> > > I
> > > > suspect very few successful gamblers are addicts so it

really

> > makes
> > > > little difference. However, I will stick to my claim that

an

> > > > addiction that has no negative side effects is NOT a

problem.

> Go
> > > back
> > > > a reread the links, moron, they're about "gambling

problems".

> > >
> > > And the violin plays on..... The violin of sadness, denial,

and

> > > anxiety. "Addictions are neutral so they're good" & "AP's
aren't
> > > addicts". Man alive, you really are diseased.
> >
> > You really have got this thing for addiction. You still have

the

> NEED
> > and can't let go. You are so pathetic that you NEED to call
> everyone
> > else an addict to ease the pain of your own weakness.
>
> Nope, just calling a spade a spade from experience.

Yep. Just like I said. YOUR EXPERIENCE. The one you NEED to apply

to

everyone else. You are either too stupid or too vain to allow that
most of us fall into the 97% that are not addicted.

Are you kidding yourself even MORE? Who do you think qualifies for
addicts--visitors twice a year, or daily players who claim they have
some sort of theoretical advantage over the casinos when they need
those blinders to justify playing far more than they should? 97%? HA!
More self-confidence building. I watched a show on cable 2 weeks ago
that said their study showed at least half of all regular gamblers
are seriously inflicted with gambling disease, and few if any would
admit to it until they are forced into facing the harsh reality of it
all. Like the path you're on. You'll be dancing happily (at least
outwardly) for a while, but then it'll all come crashing down, and
I'll be the first in line to laugh and kick sand in your face!

> You're just
> entering that phase of learning, and denial is so much a part of
your
> life now that you won't agree with anything said against you for

a

> long time.

Yes, I guess I must be "entering" that short phase with over 25

years

part time gambling and 8 years as an APer. You really can call 'em,
little man.

Some people have the assets to squander away over the years. What
goes around comes around....always.

> It is so
> > completely obvious to everyone why you carry on like this.

Sorry,

> > Robbie, my boy, but the majority of us don't have your

weakness.

We
> > can gamble for profit and not fall victim to its' downside.
>
> Of course you can't little dicky. Why, you and the other 'AP's"

who

> play daily have no chance of becoming compulsive gamblers because
you
> don't GAMBLE!

You claimed to have read those links I posted but now you come back
and say the opposite of what is there. Robbie, my boy, one either

has

compulsive tendencies or they don't. It is not a learned attribute.
But hey, keep up the good work. You have outdone yourself this time
in posting complete nonsense and obvious lies.

You can always be counted upon for your selective interpretations of
any article. That's exactly part of the disease gambling bestows upon
individuals. Paint the pretty picture, continuously saying
any 'wrong' is only what others are saddled with, and making up
excuses about your sickness as you go. If Mr. Spock came by and did
the Vulcan Mind thing with you, even HE'D go berserk at the conflict,
corruption and self-denial that goes on within your twisted mind.

> Even that quack Dr. Phil would easily see how you like to
marginalize
> what you've done to you and your wife. You've turned your
retirement
> into a one-dimentional life....one that's in a rut to nowhere and
> going downhill at an increasing rate of speed. I talk to 'AP's"

all

> the time who've finally admitted their mistakes. I even wrote

about

a
> high-rolling one with a real name last month. There's really not

a

> lot you can do about it though until you face it like a man--

which

i
> know is waaaay difficult for a nerd.

The nonsense (with a little babbling for good measure) continues. I
love it.

Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big blows.

> >
> > > > > > I'm constantly dumping the facts on you?
> > >
> > > ??? More Americana??
> >
> > Catching up are you? Boy I get tired of explaining these things
> that
> > everyone else gets the first time.
>
> I guess I can live without the punchline.

I'll give you a hint ... "ruffled".

You mean with "ridges"? I like 'em.

study used 'average', what part of that don't you

> > > > > understand?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's just it, genius. AVERAGE people go to the
resorts
> > > > because
> > > > > > > above-average folks just don't make gambling trips.

How

> > thick
> > > > you
> > > > > > be?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's amazing that you will argue against a study that's
> only
> > > > > purpose
> > > > > > was to find out what a cross-section of the gambling
> > population
> > > > > > looked like. You simply look foolish when you ramble on
> like
> > > this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Too much info-overload for you little dicky. Say so and
I'll
> > slow
> > > > > down.
> > > >
> > > > Please keep up the foolish remarks. Don't slow down on my
> account.
> > >
> > > At least half of the subjects in this e-mail were avoided by
you.
> > Are
> > > you THAT rattled?
> >
> > Not in the least. You don't even know how foolish you look.

LMAO.

>
> If you even got part of that - and weren't a geek - you'd be
> responding with something solid right now.

Nope, just grinning.

Which means you didn't get it.

> > > > > It's readily apparent you're cornered in the betting

dept.,

> and
> > > you
> > > > > consistently need to re-read and look up your selective
> > responses
> > > > on
> > > > > bowling, radio gigs, and tennis nonsense. Let's get to

the

> > bottom
> > > > > line and start over--you either accept or decline, no bet
> > raising
> > > > by
> > > > > either of us, no scrambling around by you because you're
> > > > > uncomfortable, and no declining simply because I made the
> > offers.
> > > I
> > > > > understand you won't bet me on the radio doc's thing
because
> > you
> > > > > stated you subsequently believed what I said. So we'll
forget
> > > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Tennis--best of 7, but only when my Doctor says I can
> > proceed
> > > > > after the operation on my foot. No money--just some of
> > > > > your "gamesmanship". Because I've played an average of 2-

3

> > times
> > > > per
> > > > > week for years now and you have a bum kneee
> > > >
> > > > Sounds fine to me.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Bowling: I don't care how much--you name the amount.

I'm

> in
> > > > decent
> > > > > shape and can practice enough to beat a nerd. Candle pins
or
> > ten
> > > > > pins? Again, we have to wait until I'm cleared.
> > > >
> > > > When someone says "bowling" these days it's 10 pin.
Candlepins
> > are
> > > > pretty much history (esp. outside of New England). Same
amount
> as
> > > > tennis is consistent with my previous offer. 10 games,

total

> pins.
> > >
> > > You mean $1000 a game? OK.
> >
> > I really meant zero, since that is the bet for tennis. I didn't
> want
> > to take advantage of you ... but $1000 a game is fine if that

is

> what
> > you want.
>
> No, I said we'll go with what you propose here. Zero it is. They
> enjoyment of serving you my turkeys will be payment enough.
> >
> > >
> > > > > In your favor, I understand there'll be some sort of left
> foot
> > > > slight
> > > > > movement restriction involved with this surgery after

it's

> > > healed.
> > > > > Don't let that worry you.
> > > >
> > > > I won't.
> > >
> > > > > That's it. On or off? I'll announce it and the details in
the
> > > paper
> > > > > before we play, and we'll see how many geeks show up to
root
> > > > against
> > > > > me.
> > > >
> > > > On. When is your surgery? How much recovery time is

required?

> > >
> > > I'm going to consult with the surgeeon on April 20th. I don't
> know
> > > anything beyond that. But you best get in shape. Dump the

beer

> gut
> > so
> > > I don't feel so bad dismantling you on the court and the

alleys.

> >
> > Let me know. I can make most of May then it will probably be
> October
> > before I'm available.
>
> OK, if the Indians don't take all your money and you still have

any

> health left after experiencing 6 months of slimey health

conditions

> in LV casinos, we're good.

LV casinos? What part of snowbird don't you understand?

Doesn't matter. You're already infected and the slime of the local
casinos will take years of cleansing to sanitize completely. You know
those 2 pairs of pants you wear to the casinos and that bowling
shirt? Take a whiff of them 3 months after you get 'home'. And that
fright is nothing compared to how your mind was infected.

>
> You're avoiding my comments on how a court would see your

lifestyle

> as told by me vs. your defense of such a stagnated degenerate
living,

Depends on the jury make-up. In the bible belt either one of us

would

be convicted for simply stepping foot in a casino. However,

assuming

an unpredjudiced jury, I would have no problem winning. The facts
have a way of convincing people.

Bible belt?? I have a bible and I don't live in 'that' part of the
country. Are you prejudiced? And I can see it now: Little
dicky: "Judge, I gamble every day but I'm not a degenerate addict
because I submit that it has no negative effect whatsoever on my
life". Judge: "90 days for contempt of court, and an additional 120
for being so stupid!"

> and how it would view your opinions of me here (you know, liar

and

> fraud, etc. etc.).

I think that's pretty obvious given your lies in this post alone.

Doesn't answer the question. You think the only truthful people who
gamble are AP's who say they aren't addicted, win all the time, and
say they lead normal lives to boot. Here's your Judge again: "Mr.
Denyer, I'm throwing away the key this time....you're a danger to
anyone listening as well as to yourself and to your family. LV is
FULL of players who won't say they're addicted to the games and claim
to be doing just fine. And you wonder why it's such a cesspool of
degeneracy that attracts an overly excessive amount of minorities,
foreigners, queers, pinkos, and half-cocked alcoholics? It's people
like you who give them encouragement, and people like you who,
although you have the wherewithall to last a little longer than they
will on average, you are the catalysts for the demise of normalcy in
Las Vegas lives".

> Don't be worried. Just as with the radio jock--who
> publicly broadcast slander on me time after time, I only like to
take
> individual's money in bets. Beating you in tennis will suffice

for

> all the nonsensical lies spewed about me, and after seeing you
> welching in previous bets, I somewhat doubt you'll be all go when
it
> comes time to play. Good luck!

Don't cling too much to that "doubt". It will most certainly bite

you in the end.

Then keep your wallet open and stifle the mouth. It's all I'm
interested in.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > What, your denials? You forget--dicky the denyer?!
>
> Yup. You got it. Telling the truth requires me to deny your lies.

What's this--something else you missed out on in life when you were
living a theory? You can only deny that which is true about

yourself

when you just don't want it to be that way. Others you 'disagree'
with. Now that'll be $4.95 for this lesson.

I think I'll save my money for something more useful. You know, like
flushing it down the toilet.

>
> > This stuff is
> > merely a side-isssue to the main expose' here about your

problem

> with
> > gambling. You know that 'transparent as saran wrap' comment of
> truth
> > I've made several times?
>
> I'm aware of your lie. However, it's gets hard to keep track of

all

> of them. That's why you're so well know as a LAF.

What's a LAF?

Liar and Fraud.

>
> > It was sent to me by a reader who won't get
> > involved with posting, but easily can determine, just like

anyone

> > with a clear mind, that you & the missus are pathologically
hooked
> > almost beyond hope to your video poker.
>
> Of course it was. Funny how these mysterious models of mortality
> never come out of the woodwork to support your idiotic claims.

They do, only every time it happens you choose to run and hide

behind

your "another RS alias?" routine.

I have seen others try your system and post once or twice.
Interestingly, most get quiet very quickly. As I pointed out when
running the sims, a progressions' results will track very closely to
the results of the higher denoms. Even with negative games if you run
a little lucky at these denoms, you will be successful for awhile.
However, if it is used constantly then the likelihood of being ahead
drops significantly. After 250 sessions it drops to <20%. Of course,
if you can play some positive games in the progression these numbers
are better and with really negative games the number is lower.

I just saw a guy post about playing
negative games on vpFREE at the RIO and using what looked like a
variation of my method, he hit 2 RF's on the $2 machine in I think

4

or 5 sessions. Of course it put some of the geeks there on tilt,

but

that's vpFREE for you. When you gonna chime in over there and

support

your pahntom-buck geeks?
What's a "mysterious model of immortality"?

Where did you get the "im". Boy you are a lousy reader. In any event
I really don't care what he does himself up until the time he starts
to CLAIM that the math is wrong. At that time he will start getting
some informative posts.

>
> > > > Huh? Why would most people 'miss it'? Are you implying
> that 'most
> > > > people' are so addicted to vp that they'll be inside

casinos

> when
> > > it
> > > > was on?? Geek-thinking.
> > >
> > > Nope. I suspect most people that even take the time to read

it

> > > wouldn't necessarily get to it right away.
> >
> > Read what? Are you on narcotics for the knee?
>
> We're dicussing your newsletter that you posted here. Try to keep
up.

It's your grammar, little dicky....your grammar that caused that.

Or, possibly, your reading comprehension. Did you add in some "im"s?

> You mean that "made up" theory generated by those very same
> computers, using that very same math, that make up designs for

most

> of the technology we have today.

Yup. There're all indisputable facts until you step over the geek-
line and proclaim humans can operate exactly the same as computers
over an amount of time that leans towards infinity.

Nope. I see you now want to move the discussion over to error rates.
Fine. If 100% error free operation was required then you would have a
point. For large enough edges we mere humans can manage just fine.
And, since it appears you're following VPfree threads, you know
exactly how many hands it takes to get to N0 (84% chance of success).

The strategies for VP are the simple
> result of computer analysis of the games. Sorry, little man, but
your
> way over your head here. But, please continue to post this

dribble

> and let everyone see just what a complete idiot has to say.

Classroom vs. reality again.

Sorry, little man. It's reality ONLY. Nice try anyway. The discussion
is about the whether the strategies generated by computers are valid.
They are completely valid, unless of you're claiming all VP machines
are gaffed.

It's posts like these that I get the
most mileage out of as I rip them to shreds to the delight of my

many

readers--many whom are scientists and are much more geekier than

you

think you are.

Oh, I'm sure all the readers just love it when you claim that
computers can't do simple arithmetic. LMAO. You're so far down in a
hole that you'd better delete this little subthread or ignore it next
time.

>
> > That's why the geeks have taken on vp as
> > their theme when it comes time to create so much BS. 'Most
people'
> > weould never see thru all the geek-nonsense. It took me to get
that
> > part of the ball rolling.
>
> ROTFLMAO. I'm glad to see you're taking credit for DENIAL of
computer
> generated design (that's all a strategy is). That puts you at the
top
> of the class of all the techno-weenies in the world. Congrats.

Computer generated design? HAHAHA!! What a joke!! You're

masquerading

as a clown today, right?

What do YOU call a computer generated strategy? I know, "voodoo
math". This is why you're so unbelieveable to anyone with half a
brain. It's obvious why you take this position. You can't accept the
TRUTH about your failure as an APer. It's truly amazing to see the
ridiculous depths the human mind will fall to in order to protect the
ego.

>
> > > > No one knows how anyone else plays, and it's for certain no
one
> > > even knows how THEY THEMSELVES play.
> > >
> > > You can get a reasonable idea using the software available
today.
> >
> > Wrong. First, that software isn't programmed nearly the way it

is

> > into vp machines.
>
> Here we go again. LMAO. This is beyond funny. What a complete
moron.
> The errors (which is what we are discussing) are ANY variation

from

> the computer generated strategy. They have NOTHING to do with how
the
> game is played out. As for how the game is played out, it is
RANDOM,
> as required by law in NV and most other jurisdictions. I'm so

glad

> you decided to demonstrate to everyone that you have ABSOLUTELY

no

> idea what you're talking about.

Are you really that naaive?? You need to go back to my site and

read

where the vp machines IN NEVADA, as verified to me by a S/W

engineer

there (notice I don't go down to the weeny 'programmer' level)

Software engineer is just another name for programmer. Talk about
naive. Doesn't mean that all programmers/software engineers are the
same, just like it the term PILOT doesn't mean all pilots are the
same.

and as
I was asked to and agreed from further publication, once management
read it in GT, that the machines are indeed programmed to run in a
few hot and many cold cycles.

Talk about grammar! In any event, as long as they are still random
over time and return the required payback, IT DOESN'T MATTER. This
doesn't mean I believe you, it just doesn't matter.

The word 'random' in the regulation is
adhered to and maintained nonetheless. If it's too difficult for

you

to understand I'll explain it face-to-face with you next month.
Engineers have no trouble understanding what this means, but you
aren't one now, are you.

Yes I am. I understand perfectly well what you are claiming. It
really makes little sense. Just being random will provide plenty of
hot and cold cycles. I suspect you were simply asked to quit lying.
In any event, assume for a second that there really are hot and cold
cycles programmed in. Tell us how this effects HOW the game is played
out and the error rates of individuals playing? Even switching
machines can't be the answer as you have no idea whether the next
machine is in a hot or cold cycle or whether a machine is about to
switch cycles.

>
> > I'm surprised you even said that being an ex-
> > programmer.
>
> That's because you're lying. And you've been caught ... again.

Let me know when you're ready for that lesson.

Your idiotic statements can't hide the fact you are scrambling once
again. The point is that strategies generated by computers are almost
perfect (down to a few thousands of a percent) and human error rates
can be kept low enough so a player with a sufficient edge can be
successful. QED.

>
> > Then, even if it were, playing at home with no pressure
> > and for free is a whole lot different than risking money at a
> casino.
>
> It's actually more difficult at home (at least for me). There's

no

> money on the line and a lot more distractions.

Well I stand corrected. With a wife who's always itching to head

for

the casinos and you yourself who just can't wait to go, I

understand.

It's about time. Stay around and I'll increase your understanding
even more.

>
> > For most, playing at home grows a separate set of gonads that
> instantly disappear once they step foot inside casinos.
>
> I think this describes Robbie pretty well. We're starting to get

a

> picture of why he failed as an APer.

Only problem is, I don't play at home. I did my studying and
practicing on airplanes. Can I say STRIKE THREE CALL--you didn't

even

get a swing in on that one!

Sorry, little amn, I was referring to your "gonads that instantly
disappear once they step foot inside casinos". Try to keep up.

>
> > >
> > > > You make far more errors than you
> > > > know, and just like being a vp junkie, you'll never admit

to

> that
> > > > either.
> > >
> > > No, I factor them into all my plays. I suspect you never did
that.
> >
> > Good for you, but you would be the first one to factually
announce
> > that you had no idea just how many mistakes you really do make--
and
> > when....or if they've even cost you anything or won you a

bundle

> over
> > the years.
>
> Didn't say that. Although it depends on the game I like to be
> conservative and assume a large error rate. That way I'm forced

to

> look for the better plays. A psychological trick ... yes, but it
> works.

I'm not gonna argue that. I see you play psychological tricks with
yourself all the time here, so you're probably an expert at it when
it comes to your make believe world too.

Just the facts, as usual.

>
> > I'm still waiting for you not to look more stupid by providing
just
> > one of your "facts before I make a statement" on this guy.
Support
> > your own methodology once even--for a change.
>
> You're the one who brought it up.

So what. You made an assertion so back it up.

We all know it's up to you to back
> up your statement or admit you guessed/lied ... although I do

have

> the advantage of KNOWing the TRUTH so you won't be able to bluff
your way out.

Then support it or look even dumber than Elliot.

No, I get plenty of smiles just watching you scramble like this. You
made one of your many lies and now can't back it up. It just doesn't
get much better. Of course, you can always ask your boss at GT (as if
you hadn't already) and get the straight scoop.

>
> > > > > > LAlalalalala....On and on with the BS and lies. Keep
> burying
> > > > > yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just the facts, as always. I'm sure if you got a picture

of

> me
> > > from
> > > > > the Edgewater you also checked into my results. Isn't it
> > telling
> > > > that you haven't posted anything here about them? Must be
that
> > big
> > > > PLUS sign.
> > > >
> > > > I've got your results, and all you'll do is DENY them. The
FACT
> > is
> > > > you're not the brute you portray yourself as there. And
> remember
> > > > little dicky, I SAW a pic of you and the missus, not GOT

one.

> > Keep
> > > > the facts straight once in a while please.
> > >
> > > We all know it's right there under your pillow. Don't be shy,
> admit
> > > it.
> > >
> > > I know exactly what my results are. I also know there's a

plus

> > sign. Of course, you'd never mention the TRUTH.
> >
> > From what I've seen you can easily come out to a 'plus sign'

once

> you
> > throw in all the free cash they handed out to you
>
> Could Robbie have lied about knowing my results??? I've never
picked
> up a penny of free cash there. Caught with your pants down again,
> little man?

Liar. You use your out-of-state address there and they send cash
offers to you. My pants aren't down. I'm not wearing any right now.

Like I said, I haven't collected a penny of cash. Are the facts still
getting to you? Will you ever get anything right?

>
> > ---anyone can over-
> > inflate the comps to create a positive situation just like I

say

> all
> > the time. Those who play daily HAVE to tell themselves they're
> ahead
> > in one way or another. Otherwise, the justification for all

that

> > compulsive playing begins to turn on them and plays with their
> minds.
>
> You sure are doing a wonderful job of looking foolish. Keep up

the

> good work. PS. Just so you won't be too confused any longer I was
in
> Laughlin one night and played at both Edgewater and Ramada (where

I

> stayed). I had 3RFs (now known as a clump) and came out way, way
> ahead. I wonder if anyone now believes you saw a picture of me or
> that you have an "IN" with any casino employees like you claim

So how many months did it take you to finally come up with

something

to dispute my claim??

I think you mean ... catch you in a lie. Let's be honest.

You said it all right there.
A "clump". That's funny. When I came back from a trip to
LV/Laughlin/Lake Tahoe/Reno/SF/Oregon two years ago and I wrote a
post and article explaining how I hit 3 RF's (50c/$2/$10) in

24hrs.,

all the jealous people wrote in to my publisher and said they

wanted

proof because they just couldn't believe it--which I sent out via

the

editor. So let's see your proof--or were they all on e-em,

quarters!?

They were all on quarters. Two playing OEJs at Edgewater (not even a
hand pay) and one playing DB at Ramada (this one was a hand pay). I
see you're now admitting that most of the people who read your column
don't believe you. Finally, one truth out of little Robbie.

> > If you ever post ONE fact that's even close to being true

without

> > your required selective feel-good interpretations, it would be

a

> > miracle.
>
> No, it would be business as usual.

You mean BS as usual.

Just the facts, as usual.

> > > > > You mean like the 3 deposits I've made in the last two
weeks.
> > > >
> > > > No, like the THREE deposits I've made this year without

loss

> for
> > > over
> > > > $33k. And it's all because I know how to get up and leave--
> > > something
> > > > compulsive 'advantage players' never learned to do.
> > > > 3 deposits in 2 weeks? That means you lost 11 times!!

HAHA!!

> > >
> > > No, it actually means I don't run to the bank all the time.
> > However,
> > > get your story straight, I've lost more than 11 times. Small
> > losses, big wins.
> >
> > Whatever the pathetic win ratio you experience, it makes no

sense

> to
> > play that boring way. I much rather prefer--as would anyone--

big

> wins
> > and few losses--big or small.
>
> Who wouldn't. Of course, reality requires a different approach.
Next
> you'll be telling us of the Singer lottery technique to guarantee
> those REALLY big wins.

Such envy.....

Just the facts, as usual.

> > > > > > I see you're still confused and still play thru all

your

> > > > jackpots.
> > > > > > Too bad. Just what the casinos want.
> > > > >
> > > > > Won last year, and the year before, and ahead this year.
What
> > > part
> > > > of
> > > > > that don't you understand? Like I've said before, I play
> around
> > 3
> > > > > hours a day. Doesn't matter what I get on any given day,

I

> just
> > > add
> > > > > up the results at the end of the year.
> > > >
> > > > This sounds like hearing the Queen scramble around for

words

> that
> > > her
> > > > subjects want to hear so they won't stop buying junk.

You're

> one
> > > > level below that as a nobody, and STILL you like to make
things
> > up
> > > > about your play!
> > >
> > > Just the facts, as usual.
> >
> > Thank you for supporting me again.
>
> Nice try, but we all know that the TRUTH supports very little of
what
> you say.

This TRUTH is What?

THE truth. You know, that concept you keep avoiding and I keep
catching you.

Now that you've been caught lying again, it's getting harder
> and harder for anyone to believe anything you say. You'd hope
> teacuplily would know better now, but instead he chooses to blame
the
> casino (and, of course, you support that). You are a LAF.

Fact is fact. AC machines are biased, and only die-hard fans of

video

poker played on any venue--such as you--and folks such as Harry
Porter swear by the legitimacy of those machines. Some people have
to. They can't get to Nv. often enough to get a crack at winning
something for a change, so they need to justify and feel good about
doing it.

Another unsupported assertion ... so much BS, so little time. Please
feel free to substantiate just one of your ridiculous claims. You
know, provide us one of those illusive facts.

>
> > >
> > > > They're a business who
> > > > > wants to sell product. That's all it is, moron. Are you
> really
> > > this
> > > > > naive?
> > > >
> > > > Interesting. You saying no one buys my book on one hand,

then

> you
> > > say
> > > > it sells because there must be a ton of people who like to
hear
> > > fraud
> > > > and lies. Get your stories straight--here's another chance.
> > >
> > > I didn't say either one.
> >
> > Should have expected the easy way out again.... Denial when

it's

> all
> > there in B&W.
>
> I will always deny your lies. Let's educcate again. I said 10s of
> copies, not "no one buys" your book. I said people probably read
your
> column (not your book) for laughs. Now, do you have it straight

or

do
> we need to go over it again?

Making it all up on the fly again?

Just the facts, as usual. Most people who don't have alcohol ravaged
brains can remember back a couple of days.

BTW--what's "10's of copies" mean?

LMAO. People often write about successful books that have
sold "millions of copies". I was just using the same approach to
accurately describe you books' success.

> > And they never will be. DENIAL is on your side and a major part
of
> > your life right now, remember?
>
> Yes, denial of your lies is, and always will be, a major part of

my

> responses.

Remember denial's meaning.

Main Entry: de·ni·al
Pronunciation: di-'nI(-&)l, dE-
Function: noun
1 : refusal to satisfy a request or desire
2 a (1) : refusal to admit the truth or reality (as of a statement or
charge) (2) : assertion that an allegation is false b : refusal to
acknowledge a person or a thing : DISAVOWAL

Especially note: 2 a (2). Anything else?

> > > You really have got this thing for addiction. You still have
the
> > NEED
> > > and can't let go. You are so pathetic that you NEED to call
> > everyone
> > > else an addict to ease the pain of your own weakness.
> >
> > Nope, just calling a spade a spade from experience.
>
> Yep. Just like I said. YOUR EXPERIENCE. The one you NEED to apply
to
> everyone else. You are either too stupid or too vain to allow

that

> most of us fall into the 97% that are not addicted.

Are you kidding yourself even MORE? Who do you think qualifies for
addicts--visitors twice a year,

With the proliferation of Indian gambling there are fewer and fewer
twice a year gamblers.

or daily players who claim they have
some sort of theoretical advantage over the casinos

This has nothing to do with addiction. Addiction is a physical
reaction of some kind of stimuli. The quantity of play may be an
indicator but nothing else.

when they need
those blinders to justify playing far more than they should? 97%?

HA!

Just the facts, as usual. The 3% number is provided by support
groups, I have nothing to do with it. If a new number has become
commonly accepted then point me to a reference.

> > You're just
> > entering that phase of learning, and denial is so much a part

of

> your
> > life now that you won't agree with anything said against you

for

a
> > long time.
>
> Yes, I guess I must be "entering" that short phase with over 25
years
> part time gambling and 8 years as an APer. You really can

call 'em,

> little man.

Some people have the assets to squander away over the years. What
goes around comes around....always.

Then you're in for a rude awakening.

>
> > It is so
> > > completely obvious to everyone why you carry on like this.
Sorry,
> > > Robbie, my boy, but the majority of us don't have your
weakness.
> We
> > > can gamble for profit and not fall victim to its' downside.
> >
> > Of course you can't little dicky. Why, you and the other 'AP's"
who
> > play daily have no chance of becoming compulsive gamblers

because

> you
> > don't GAMBLE!
>
> You claimed to have read those links I posted but now you come

back

> and say the opposite of what is there. Robbie, my boy, one either
has
> compulsive tendencies or they don't. It is not a learned

attribute.

> But hey, keep up the good work. You have outdone yourself this

time

> in posting complete nonsense and obvious lies.

You can always be counted upon for your selective interpretations

of

any article. That's exactly part of the disease gambling bestows

upon

individuals.

Of course it does.

Paint the pretty picture, continuously saying
any 'wrong' is only what others are saddled with, and making up
excuses about your sickness as you go. If Mr. Spock came by and did
the Vulcan Mind thing with you, even HE'D go berserk at the

conflict,

corruption and self-denial that goes on within your twisted mind.

Mr Spock, eh? Are you having trouble separating your fantasies from
reality?

> > Even that quack Dr. Phil would easily see how you like to
> marginalize
> > what you've done to you and your wife. You've turned your
> retirement
> > into a one-dimentional life....one that's in a rut to nowhere

and

> > going downhill at an increasing rate of speed. I talk to 'AP's"
all
> > the time who've finally admitted their mistakes. I even wrote
about
> a
> > high-rolling one with a real name last month. There's really

not

a
> > lot you can do about it though until you face it like a man--
which
> i
> > know is waaaay difficult for a nerd.
>
> The nonsense (with a little babbling for good measure) continues.

I

> love it.

Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big blows.

I wouldn't know, tell us about it. You are the only addict present in
this discussion. Oh, that's right, you RECOVERED from your addiction?
ROTFLMAO.

> > You're avoiding my comments on how a court would see your
lifestyle
> > as told by me vs. your defense of such a stagnated degenerate
> living,
>
> Depends on the jury make-up. In the bible belt either one of us
would
> be convicted for simply stepping foot in a casino. However,
assuming
> an unpredjudiced jury, I would have no problem winning. The facts
> have a way of convincing people.

Bible belt?? I have a bible and I don't live in 'that' part of the
country.

It's a well known expression used to describe a region of the
country. I keep forgeting you are so uneducated in common terms and
expressions.

Are you prejudiced? And I can see it now: Little
dicky: "Judge, I gamble every day but I'm not a degenerate addict
because I submit that it has no negative effect whatsoever on my
life". Judge: "90 days for contempt of court, and an additional 120
for being so stupid!"

Judge: Let's hear the facts. Rob: What are those? Judge: Case
dismissed.

>
> > and how it would view your opinions of me here (you know, liar
and
> > fraud, etc. etc.).
>
> I think that's pretty obvious given your lies in this post alone.

Doesn't answer the question. You think the only truthful people who
gamble are AP's who say they aren't addicted, win all the time, and
say they lead normal lives to boot.

Nope. I'd never use the words "only" and "all". Poor Robbie still
can't get over HIS lifestyle when HE was addicted and his simple mind
thinks that ALL gamblers MUST be like he was. It just isn't true. I
will never claim that addicted gamblers don't exist and that some of
them are just like Rob. However, there are also MANY who treat
gambling as a profitable hobby. Not unlike many other hobbies that
can have a profitable side ... for example, refinishing old cars and
selling them for a profit.

Here's your Judge again: "Mr.
Denyer, I'm throwing away the key this time....you're a danger to
anyone listening as well as to yourself and to your family. LV is
FULL of players who won't say they're addicted to the games and

claim

to be doing just fine. And you wonder why it's such a cesspool of
degeneracy that attracts an overly excessive amount of minorities,
foreigners, queers, pinkos, and half-cocked alcoholics? It's people
like you who give them encouragement, and people like you who,
although you have the wherewithall to last a little longer than

they

will on average, you are the catalysts for the demise of normalcy

in

Las Vegas lives".

Funny, this Judge sounds exactly like little Robbie. Your problem is
a real judge deals in facts. You'd lose everytime.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:

Date: 1528

> > Yup. You got it. Telling the truth requires me to deny your

lies.

>
> What's this--something else you missed out on in life when you

were

> living a theory? You can only deny that which is true about
yourself
> when you just don't want it to be that way. Others you 'disagree'
> with. Now that'll be $4.95 for this lesson.

I think I'll save my money for something more useful. You know,

like flushing it down the toilet.

....something we all know daily addicts do all the time inside
casinos.

> What's a LAF?

Liar and Fraud.

OK.

> >
> > > It was sent to me by a reader who won't get
> > > involved with posting, but easily can determine, just like
anyone
> > > with a clear mind, that you & the missus are pathologically
> hooked
> > > almost beyond hope to your video poker.
> >
> > Of course it was. Funny how these mysterious models of

mortality

> > never come out of the woodwork to support your idiotic claims.
>
> They do, only every time it happens you choose to run and hide
behind
> your "another RS alias?" routine.

I have seen others try your system and post once or twice.
Interestingly, most get quiet very quickly.

That's because people like you and other misleds intimidate them
either one-on-one or in a gang-up situation. These are real people
who live honest lives and believe what they do and post is all about
doing & saying the right things. They aren't some degenerate, low
life, self-disrespecting gambling addicts....at least anymore. Most
of you misleds don't have respect for others because all you have on
your minds are video poker and how much you want to just get to the
machines again. Not so with them.

As I pointed out when

running the sims, a progressions' results will track very closely

to

the results of the higher denoms. Even with negative games if you

run

a little lucky at these denoms, you will be successful for awhile.
However, if it is used constantly then the likelihood of being

ahead

drops significantly. After 250 sessions it drops to <20%. Of

course,

if you can play some positive games in the progression these

numbers

are better and with really negative games the number is lower.

I've seen that rant enough to know how much you're aching for it to
be true. Here's a hint: It ain't gonna change no matter how many
times you write it up. I'll take real-life results, which have made
me the most successful player ever.

> I just saw a guy post about playing
> negative games on vpFREE at the RIO and using what looked like a
> variation of my method, he hit 2 RF's on the $2 machine in I

think

4
> or 5 sessions. Of course it put some of the geeks there on tilt,
but
> that's vpFREE for you. When you gonna chime in over there and
support
> your pahntom-buck geeks?
> What's a "mysterious model of immortality"?

Where did you get the "im". Boy you are a lousy reader. In any

event

I really don't care what he does himself up until the time he

starts

to CLAIM that the math is wrong. At that time he will start getting
some informative posts.

Um....I think he already made a few comments that should get you into
tilt mode! Your buddy took a direct personal hit--you gonna let him
take all the heat?

> > You mean that "made up" theory generated by those very same
> > computers, using that very same math, that make up designs for
most
> > of the technology we have today.
>
> Yup. There're all indisputable facts until you step over the geek-
> line and proclaim humans can operate exactly the same as

computers

> over an amount of time that leans towards infinity.

Nope. I see you now want to move the discussion over to error

rates.

Fine. If 100% error free operation was required then you would have

a

point. For large enough edges we mere humans can manage just fine.
And, since it appears you're following VPfree threads, you know
exactly how many hands it takes to get to N0 (84% chance of

success).

Singer Lesson # 34,658 for you: NONE of the video poker theory any of
the nerds come up with is in any way descriptive of how a real game
in the casino will work, unless thru unusual coincidence. They (and
you) only waste the time writing all that useless jargon up because
it makes them feel like they're important in front an audience of
penny & nickel players who are only looking for gods of video poker
to give them the wins, and these self-proclaimed geniuses serve it up
to the masses while impressing only each other's geek-minds. It's
like a nerd circle-jerk, only without the BIG ending!

>
> The strategies for VP are the simple
> > result of computer analysis of the games. Sorry, little man,

but

> your
> > way over your head here. But, please continue to post this
dribble
> > and let everyone see just what a complete idiot has to say.
>
> Classroom vs. reality again.

Sorry, little man. It's reality ONLY. Nice try anyway. The

discussion

is about the whether the strategies generated by computers are

valid.

They are completely valid, unless of you're claiming all VP

machines

are gaffed.

> It's posts like these that I get the
> most mileage out of as I rip them to shreds to the delight of my
many
> readers--many whom are scientists and are much more geekier than
you
> think you are.

Oh, I'm sure all the readers just love it when you claim that
computers can't do simple arithmetic. LMAO. You're so far down in a
hole that you'd better delete this little subthread or ignore it

next time.

You're making it up as you go again--very unbecoming.

> >
> > > That's why the geeks have taken on vp as
> > > their theme when it comes time to create so much BS. 'Most
> people
> > > weould never see thru all the geek-nonsense. It took me to

get

> that
> > > part of the ball rolling.
> >
> > ROTFLMAO. I'm glad to see you're taking credit for DENIAL of
> computer
> > generated design (that's all a strategy is). That puts you at

the

> top
> > of the class of all the techno-weenies in the world. Congrats.
>
> Computer generated design? HAHAHA!! What a joke!! You're
masquerading
> as a clown today, right?

What do YOU call a computer generated strategy? I know, "voodoo
math". This is why you're so unbelieveable to anyone with half a
brain. It's obvious why you take this position. You can't accept

the

TRUTH about your failure as an APer. It's truly amazing to see the
ridiculous depths the human mind will fall to in order to protect

the

ego.

"COMPUTER GENERATED STRATEGY"? HAHAHA!! What a geek! A computer is a
simple tool used in the development of parameters whatever the
interest is. It doesn't GENERATE strategy or anything else. I used it
to help me create winning strategies--IT didn't generate them for me!
Do I have to educate you on EVERYTHING....even in your own field!?

> > Here we go again. LMAO. This is beyond funny. What a complete
> moron.
> > The errors (which is what we are discussing) are ANY variation
from
> > the computer generated strategy. They have NOTHING to do with

how

> the
> > game is played out. As for how the game is played out, it is
> RANDOM,
> > as required by law in NV and most other jurisdictions. I'm so
glad
> > you decided to demonstrate to everyone that you have ABSOLUTELY
no
> > idea what you're talking about.
>
> Are you really that naaive?? You need to go back to my site and
read
> where the vp machines IN NEVADA, as verified to me by a S/W
engineer
> there (notice I don't go down to the weeny 'programmer' level)

Software engineer is just another name for programmer.

Nananana! I knew that would get you!

Talk about

naive. Doesn't mean that all programmers/software engineers are the
same, just like it the term PILOT doesn't mean all pilots are the
same.

No, all pilots are capable of flying the plane, but obviously,
all 'programmers' are capable of comprehending how a vp machine
REALLY operates in Nv.

> and as
> I was asked to and agreed from further publication, once

management

> read it in GT, that the machines are indeed programmed to run in

a few hot and many cold cycles.

Talk about grammar!

No tricks please. Cut off the sentence and that's what you get.

In any event, as long as they are still random

over time and return the required payback, IT DOESN'T MATTER. This
doesn't mean I believe you, it just doesn't matter.

Talk about being tongue-twisted.... Let me know when you say what
you're trying to say. Until then understand this: I win so often
because I'm able to spot, after as little as 10 minutes of playing, a
machine's hot or cold cycle, and that's another reason why you cannot
figure out MATHEMATICALLY how I have such a great win record. I
change games, machines and denominations constantly. Ever wonder why?

> The word 'random' in the regulation is
> adhered to and maintained nonetheless. If it's too difficult for
you
> to understand I'll explain it face-to-face with you next month.
> Engineers have no trouble understanding what this means, but you
> aren't one now, are you.

Yes I am. I understand perfectly well what you are claiming. It
really makes little sense. Just being random will provide plenty of
hot and cold cycles. I suspect you were simply asked to quit lying.
In any event, assume for a second that there really are hot and

cold

cycles programmed in. Tell us how this effects HOW the game is

played

out and the error rates of individuals playing? Even switching
machines can't be the answer as you have no idea whether the next
machine is in a hot or cold cycle or whether a machine is about to
switch cycles.

First, today's machines have multiple programs within, by the game,
by denom, and by by a combination of both in some instances. Ever run
across a DB 25c game with the final hand played also on the $1 game?
That's the norm, but if you know where to look there are quite a few
with their own denominational programs also. It doesn't take long
to 'spot' a cycle. There are a few tricks I've learned and I won't
release that info. I call that MY ADVANTAGE. And BTW--I believe the
engineer even if you refuse to believe me. He's a friend I made on an
Air New Zealand 1st Class wine-tasting flight on the way back from
australia--where there are many vp machines everywhere. As far as the
details, I said I'll be glad to explain it to you in person because
it would take too long to write.

> > > I'm surprised you even said that being an ex-
> > > programmer.
> >
> > That's because you're lying. And you've been caught ... again.

Where?

>
> Let me know when you're ready for that lesson.

Your idiotic statements can't hide the fact you are scrambling once
again. The point is that strategies generated by computers are

almost

perfect (down to a few thousands of a percent) and human error

rates

can be kept low enough so a player with a sufficient edge can be
successful. QED.

More hogwash from someone on tilt. Boy, I can't tell you how much
satisfaction this is watching a grown man whimper and ramble!

> >
> > > Then, even if it were, playing at home with no pressure
> > > and for free is a whole lot different than risking money at a
> > casino.
> >
> > It's actually more difficult at home (at least for me). There's
no
> > money on the line and a lot more distractions.
>
> Well I stand corrected. With a wife who's always itching to head
for
> the casinos and you yourself who just can't wait to go, I
understand.

It's about time. Stay around and I'll increase your understanding
even more.

That really didn't take a scientist to gather the evidence.

> >
> > > For most, playing at home grows a separate set of gonads that
> > instantly disappear once they step foot inside casinos.
> >
> > I think this describes Robbie pretty well. We're starting to

get

a
> > picture of why he failed as an APer.
>
> Only problem is, I don't play at home. I did my studying and
> practicing on airplanes. Can I say STRIKE THREE CALL--you didn't
even
> get a swing in on that one!

Sorry, little amn, I was referring to your "gonads that instantly
disappear once they step foot inside casinos". Try to keep up.

Is this called "Switch The Question"?

> > Didn't say that. Although it depends on the game I like to be
> > conservative and assume a large error rate. That way I'm forced
to
> > look for the better plays. A psychological trick ... yes, but

it

> > works.
>
> I'm not gonna argue that. I see you play psychological tricks

with

> yourself all the time here, so you're probably an expert at it

when

> it comes to your make believe world too.

Just the facts, as usual.

Exactly.

> >
> > > I'm still waiting for you not to look more stupid by

providing

> just
> > > one of your "facts before I make a statement" on this guy.
> Support
> > > your own methodology once even--for a change.
> >
> > You're the one who brought it up.
>
> So what. You made an assertion so back it up.
>
> We all know it's up to you to back
> > up your statement or admit you guessed/lied ... although I do
have
> > the advantage of KNOWing the TRUTH so you won't be able to

bluff

> your way out.
>
> Then support it or look even dumber than Elliot.

No, I get plenty of smiles just watching you scramble like this.

You

made one of your many lies and now can't back it up. It just

doesn't

get much better. Of course, you can always ask your boss at GT (as

if

you hadn't already) and get the straight scoop.

Final answer: You have nothing. Why not admit it? I'll only laugh at
you for an hour!

> > > > I know exactly what my results are. I also know there's a
plus
> > > sign. Of course, you'd never mention the TRUTH.
> > >
> > > From what I've seen you can easily come out to a 'plus sign'
once
> > you
> > > throw in all the free cash they handed out to you
> >
> > Could Robbie have lied about knowing my results??? I've never
> picked
> > up a penny of free cash there. Caught with your pants down

again,

> > little man?
>
> Liar. You use your out-of-state address there and they send cash
> offers to you. My pants aren't down. I'm not wearing any right

now.

Like I said, I haven't collected a penny of cash. Are the facts

still

getting to you? Will you ever get anything right?

Here's the scenario: Out-of-state players get constant free cash + 1%
cash back up to $150 regularly from the Edge. And you're not taking
advantage of that POSITIVE PLAY?? THAT's why you're a liar.

> > in
> > Laughlin one night and played at both Edgewater and Ramada

(where

I
> > stayed). I had 3RFs (now known as a clump) and came out way,

way

> > ahead. I wonder if anyone now believes you saw a picture of me

or

> > that you have an "IN" with any casino employees like you claim
>
> So how many months did it take you to finally come up with
something
> to dispute my claim??

I think you mean ... catch you in a lie. Let's be honest.

Catching people in a lie happens immediately. You've had months to
make it up. Let's be truthful.

> You said it all right there.
> A "clump". That's funny. When I came back from a trip to
> LV/Laughlin/Lake Tahoe/Reno/SF/Oregon two years ago and I wrote a
> post and article explaining how I hit 3 RF's (50c/$2/$10) in
24hrs.,
> all the jealous people wrote in to my publisher and said they
wanted
> proof because they just couldn't believe it--which I sent out via
the
> editor. So let's see your proof--or were they all on e-em,
quarters!?

They were all on quarters. Two playing OEJs at Edgewater (not even

a

hand pay) and one playing DB at Ramada (this one was a hand pay). I
see you're now admitting that most of the people who read your

column

don't believe you. Finally, one truth out of little Robbie.

Nope--just the jealous ones, which were comprised of mainly the so-
called gurus and math geeks on vpFREE. To my delight I might add.

> > > Whatever the pathetic win ratio you experience, it makes no
sense
> > to
> > > play that boring way. I much rather prefer--as would anyone--
big
> > wins
> > > and few losses--big or small.
> >
> > Who wouldn't. Of course, reality requires a different approach.
> Next
> > you'll be telling us of the Singer lottery technique to

guarantee

> > those REALLY big wins.
>
> Such envy.....

Just the facts, as usual.

Yup, envious facts! How red-faced can you get before you pop a vein??

> Fact is fact. AC machines are biased, and only die-hard fans of
video
> poker played on any venue--such as you--and folks such as Harry
> Porter swear by the legitimacy of those machines. Some people

have

> to. They can't get to Nv. often enough to get a crack at winning
> something for a change, so they need to justify and feel good

about

> doing it.

Another unsupported assertion ... so much BS, so little time.

Please

feel free to substantiate just one of your ridiculous claims. You
know, provide us one of those illusive facts.

They don't film the Sopranos in NJ for nothing, dipstick. Use your
imagination if you can't handle the truth.

> > > > > Interesting. You saying no one buys my book on one hand,
then
> > you
> > > > say
> > > > > it sells because there must be a ton of people who like

to

> hear
> > > > fraud
> > > > > and lies. Get your stories straight--here's another

chance.

> > > >
> > > > I didn't say either one.
> > >
> > > Should have expected the easy way out again.... Denial when
it's
> > all
> > > there in B&W.
> >
> > I will always deny your lies. Let's educcate again. I said 10s

of

> > copies, not "no one buys" your book. I said people probably

read

> your
> > column (not your book) for laughs. Now, do you have it straight
or
> do
> > we need to go over it again?
>
> Making it all up on the fly again?

Just the facts, as usual. Most people who don't have alcohol

ravaged

brains can remember back a couple of days.

> BTW--what's "10's of copies" mean?

LMAO. People often write about successful books that have
sold "millions of copies". I was just using the same approach to
accurately describe you books' success.

Then you should be saying tens of thousands in your lingo. And I'm
the success. The books are a simple tool. So much envy....so little
dicky.

> > > And they never will be. DENIAL is on your side and a major

part

> of
> > > your life right now, remember?
> >
> > Yes, denial of your lies is, and always will be, a major part

of

my
> > responses.
>
> Remember denial's meaning.

Main Entry: de·ni·al
Pronunciation: di-'nI(-&)l, dE-
Function: noun
Date: 1528
1 : refusal to satisfy a request or desire
2 a (1) : refusal to admit the truth or reality (as of a statement

or

charge) (2) : assertion that an allegation is false b : refusal to
acknowledge a person or a thing : DISAVOWAL

Especially note: 2 a (2). Anything else?

An accurate description of everything about you.

> > > > You really have got this thing for addiction. You still

have

> the
> > > NEED
> > > > and can't let go. You are so pathetic that you NEED to call
> > > everyone
> > > > else an addict to ease the pain of your own weakness.
> > >
> > > Nope, just calling a spade a spade from experience.
> >
> > Yep. Just like I said. YOUR EXPERIENCE. The one you NEED to

apply

> to
> > everyone else. You are either too stupid or too vain to allow
that
> > most of us fall into the 97% that are not addicted.
>
> Are you kidding yourself even MORE? Who do you think qualifies

for

> addicts--visitors twice a year,

With the proliferation of Indian gambling there are fewer and fewer
twice a year gamblers.

Huh? Where'd that opinion come from? Are you that far off and so
ruffled that you switch the question again??

> or daily players who claim they have
> some sort of theoretical advantage over the casinos

This has nothing to do with addiction. Addiction is a physical
reaction of some kind of stimuli. The quantity of play may be an
indicator but nothing else.

Forget it little dicky. You're not an expert in this field either,
rather, you're the potential patient.

> when they need
> those blinders to justify playing far more than they should? 97%?
HA!

Just the facts, as usual. The 3% number is provided by support
groups, I have nothing to do with it. If a new number has become
commonly accepted then point me to a reference.

But you like it because others with a similar disease as you have put
it out for justification purposes. Brilliant!

> > > You're just
> > > entering that phase of learning, and denial is so much a part
of
> > your
> > > life now that you won't agree with anything said against you
for
> a
> > > long time.
> >
> > Yes, I guess I must be "entering" that short phase with over 25
> years
> > part time gambling and 8 years as an APer. You really can
call 'em,
> > little man.
>
> Some people have the assets to squander away over the years. What
> goes around comes around....always.

Then you're in for a rude awakening.

I woke up in 1996. It'll take you a little longer because you make
believe more than I used to.

> >
> > > It is so
> > > > completely obvious to everyone why you carry on like this.
> Sorry,
> > > > Robbie, my boy, but the majority of us don't have your
> weakness.
> > We
> > > > can gamble for profit and not fall victim to its' downside.
> > >
> > > Of course you can't little dicky. Why, you and the

other 'AP's"

> who
> > > play daily have no chance of becoming compulsive gamblers
because
> > you
> > > don't GAMBLE!
> >
> > You claimed to have read those links I posted but now you come
back
> > and say the opposite of what is there. Robbie, my boy, one

either

> has
> > compulsive tendencies or they don't. It is not a learned
attribute.
> > But hey, keep up the good work. You have outdone yourself this
time
> > in posting complete nonsense and obvious lies.
>
> You can always be counted upon for your selective interpretations
of
> any article. That's exactly part of the disease gambling bestows
upon
> individuals.

Of course it does.

> Paint the pretty picture, continuously saying
> any 'wrong' is only what others are saddled with, and making up
> excuses about your sickness as you go. If Mr. Spock came by and

did

> the Vulcan Mind thing with you, even HE'D go berserk at the
conflict,
> corruption and self-denial that goes on within your twisted mind.

Mr Spock, eh? Are you having trouble separating your fantasies from
reality?

Left speechless on that one, hey? Very telling.....

>
> > > Even that quack Dr. Phil would easily see how you like to
> > marginalize
> > > what you've done to you and your wife. You've turned your
> > retirement
> > > into a one-dimentional life....one that's in a rut to nowhere
and
> > > going downhill at an increasing rate of speed. I talk

to 'AP's"

> all
> > > the time who've finally admitted their mistakes. I even wrote
> about
> > a
> > > high-rolling one with a real name last month. There's really
not
> a
> > > lot you can do about it though until you face it like a man--
> which
> > i
> > > know is waaaay difficult for a nerd.
> >
> > The nonsense (with a little babbling for good measure)

continues.

I
> > love it.
>
> Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big blows.

I wouldn't know, tell us about it. You are the only addict present

in

this discussion. Oh, that's right, you RECOVERED from your

addiction?

ROTFLMAO.

You've been educated. Tnank me whenever. Until then, guess who's in
casinos daily vs. monthy?? But naturally, YOU DON'T GAMBLE!

> > > You're avoiding my comments on how a court would see your
> lifestyle
> > > as told by me vs. your defense of such a stagnated degenerate
> > living,
> >
> > Depends on the jury make-up. In the bible belt either one of us
> would
> > be convicted for simply stepping foot in a casino. However,
> assuming
> > an unpredjudiced jury, I would have no problem winning. The

facts

> > have a way of convincing people.
>
> Bible belt?? I have a bible and I don't live in 'that' part of

the

> country.

It's a well known expression used to describe a region of the
country. I keep forgeting you are so uneducated in common terms and
expressions.

> Are you prejudiced? And I can see it now: Little
> dicky: "Judge, I gamble every day but I'm not a degenerate addict
> because I submit that it has no negative effect whatsoever on my
> life". Judge: "90 days for contempt of court, and an additional

120

> for being so stupid!"

Judge: Let's hear the facts. Rob: What are those? Judge: Case
dismissed.

Let's finish that. "Dick, next time you bring in a case, make sure
you've got your facts straight, and BTW, get some help for that
gambling problem you have."

> >
> > > and how it would view your opinions of me here (you know,

liar

> and
> > > fraud, etc. etc.).
> >
> > I think that's pretty obvious given your lies in this post

alone.

>
> Doesn't answer the question. You think the only truthful people

who

> gamble are AP's who say they aren't addicted, win all the time,

and

> say they lead normal lives to boot.

Nope. I'd never use the words "only" and "all". Poor Robbie still
can't get over HIS lifestyle when HE was addicted

Oops! WHEN? I thought I still AM!!! Can you ever follow your own
lies, at least ONCE!?!

and his simple mind

thinks that ALL gamblers MUST be like he was. It just isn't true. I
will never claim that addicted gamblers don't exist and that some

of

them are just like Rob. However, there are also MANY who treat
gambling as a profitable hobby. Not unlike many other hobbies that
can have a profitable side ... for example, refinishing old cars

and

selling them for a profit.

On and on and on with the denial. You sure do give credibility to my
calling you dicky the denyer!

> Here's your Judge again: "Mr.
> Denyer, I'm throwing away the key this time....you're a danger to
> anyone listening as well as to yourself and to your family. LV is
> FULL of players who won't say they're addicted to the games and
claim
> to be doing just fine. And you wonder why it's such a cesspool of
> degeneracy that attracts an overly excessive amount of

minorities,

> foreigners, queers, pinkos, and half-cocked alcoholics? It's

people

> like you who give them encouragement, and people like you who,
> although you have the wherewithall to last a little longer than
they
> will on average, you are the catalysts for the demise of normalcy
in
> Las Vegans' lives".

Funny, this Judge sounds exactly like little Robbie. Your problem

is a real judge deals in facts. You'd lose everytime.

All he'd have to do is stop for a moment, think of how people like
you've encouraged all the low lifes to come to town with wet dreams
of getting some of the money, and when they found out you lied to
them with your scammy strategy, they turn to crime and begin to suck
off of the local economy. I'd be a tad bit more concerned if I were
you. While you're away in Minn. hiding from your fantasy (and
selling/downsizing the property to get more gambling cash into your
pocket like your hero from Indiana did) you have a good chance of a
family of 14 Bangladesh cramming into your townhome. Stay up tonight
and think about it. It will get your mind off of how much you lost
today feeding your sick habit.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> I have seen others try your system and post once or twice.
> Interestingly, most get quiet very quickly.

That's because people like you and other misleds intimidate them
either one-on-one or in a gang-up situation. These are real people
who live honest lives and believe what they do and post is all

about

doing & saying the right things. They aren't some degenerate, low
life, self-disrespecting gambling addicts....at least anymore. Most
of you misleds don't have respect for others because all you have

on

your minds are video poker and how much you want to just get to the
machines again. Not so with them.

Of course not. They may gamble just as much and any APer but because
they are willing to suppress their brains, Robbie will gladly imbrace
them. LMAO.

As I pointed out when
> running the sims, a progressions' results will track very closely
to
> the results of the higher denoms. Even with negative games if you
run
> a little lucky at these denoms, you will be successful for

awhile.

> However, if it is used constantly then the likelihood of being
ahead
> drops significantly. After 250 sessions it drops to <20%. Of
course,
> if you can play some positive games in the progression these
numbers
> are better and with really negative games the number is lower.

I've seen that rant enough to know how much you're aching for it to
be true.

Just the facts, as usual.

> > I just saw a guy post about playing
> > negative games on vpFREE at the RIO and using what looked like

a

> > variation of my method, he hit 2 RF's on the $2 machine in I
think
> 4
> > or 5 sessions. Of course it put some of the geeks there on

tilt,

> but
> > that's vpFREE for you. When you gonna chime in over there and
> support
> > your pahntom-buck geeks?
> > What's a "mysterious model of immortality"?
>
> Where did you get the "im". Boy you are a lousy reader. In any
event
> I really don't care what he does himself up until the time he
starts
> to CLAIM that the math is wrong. At that time he will start

getting

> some informative posts.

Um....I think he already made a few comments that should get you

into

tilt mode! Your buddy took a direct personal hit--you gonna let him
take all the heat?

Sorry, I haven't been following VPfree like you do. I'll catch up
later.

> > > You mean that "made up" theory generated by those very same
> > > computers, using that very same math, that make up designs

for

> most
> > > of the technology we have today.
> >
> > Yup. There're all indisputable facts until you step over the

geek-

> > line and proclaim humans can operate exactly the same as
computers
> > over an amount of time that leans towards infinity.
>
> Nope. I see you now want to move the discussion over to error
rates.
> Fine. If 100% error free operation was required then you would

have

a
> point. For large enough edges we mere humans can manage just

fine.

> And, since it appears you're following VPfree threads, you know
> exactly how many hands it takes to get to N0 (84% chance of
success).

Singer Lesson # 34,658 for you: NONE of the video poker theory any

of

the nerds come up with is in any way descriptive of how a real game
in the casino will work,

Make that Singer Fraud # 34,658 and I'm with you. Once again you
appear to be claiming the machines are not legal. My, my.

unless thru unusual coincidence. They (and
you) only waste the time writing all that useless jargon up because
it makes them feel like they're important

Just the facts, as usual. Are you back to claiming that 1+1 is not
equal to 2?

>
> >
> > The strategies for VP are the simple
> > > result of computer analysis of the games. Sorry, little man,
but
> > your
> > > way over your head here. But, please continue to post this
> dribble
> > > and let everyone see just what a complete idiot has to say.
> >
> > Classroom vs. reality again.
>
> Sorry, little man. It's reality ONLY. Nice try anyway. The
discussion
> is about the whether the strategies generated by computers are
valid.
> They are completely valid, unless of you're claiming all VP
machines
> are gaffed.
>
> > It's posts like these that I get the
> > most mileage out of as I rip them to shreds to the delight of

my

> many
> > readers--many whom are scientists and are much more geekier

than

> you
> > think you are.
>
> Oh, I'm sure all the readers just love it when you claim that
> computers can't do simple arithmetic. LMAO. You're so far down in

a

> hole that you'd better delete this little subthread or ignore it
next time.

You're making it up as you go again--very unbecoming.

Yep. I made up the fact that computers can do simple arithmetic.
Pretty wild and crazy of me. I guess your real world is one where no
computer, no cell phoine, no TV, no electronics at all can function.
You live in strange world.

>
> > >
> > > > That's why the geeks have taken on vp as
> > > > their theme when it comes time to create so much BS. 'Most
> > people
> > > > weould never see thru all the geek-nonsense. It took me to
get
> > that
> > > > part of the ball rolling.
> > >
> > > ROTFLMAO. I'm glad to see you're taking credit for DENIAL of
> > computer
> > > generated design (that's all a strategy is). That puts you at
the
> > top
> > > of the class of all the techno-weenies in the world. Congrats.
> >
> > Computer generated design? HAHAHA!! What a joke!! You're
> masquerading
> > as a clown today, right?
>
> What do YOU call a computer generated strategy? I know, "voodoo
> math". This is why you're so unbelieveable to anyone with half a
> brain. It's obvious why you take this position. You can't accept
the
> TRUTH about your failure as an APer. It's truly amazing to see

the

> ridiculous depths the human mind will fall to in order to protect
the
> ego.

"COMPUTER GENERATED STRATEGY"? HAHAHA!! What a geek! A computer is

a

simple tool used in the development of parameters whatever the
interest is. It doesn't GENERATE strategy or anything else.

I guess you've never used FVP or VPSM. Little Robbie, the guru in his
own mind, has no idea that these programs actually generate
strategies. Idiotic isn't low enough to describe his VP intellect.
However, it was kind of you to insert your foot into your mouth for
all to see. LMAO bigtime.

I used it
to help me create winning strategies--IT didn't generate them for

me!

Do I have to educate you on EVERYTHING....even in your own field!?

Still chuckling. Are you for real?

>
> > > Here we go again. LMAO. This is beyond funny. What a complete
> > moron.
> > > The errors (which is what we are discussing) are ANY

variation

> from
> > > the computer generated strategy. They have NOTHING to do with
how
> > the
> > > game is played out. As for how the game is played out, it is
> > RANDOM,
> > > as required by law in NV and most other jurisdictions. I'm so
> glad
> > > you decided to demonstrate to everyone that you have

ABSOLUTELY

> no
> > > idea what you're talking about.
> >
> > Are you really that naaive?? You need to go back to my site and
> read
> > where the vp machines IN NEVADA, as verified to me by a S/W
> engineer
> > there (notice I don't go down to the weeny 'programmer' level)
>
> Software engineer is just another name for programmer.

Nananana! I knew that would get you!

I doubt it. Another lie to cover up your stupidity.

Talk about
> naive. Doesn't mean that all programmers/software engineers are

the

> same, just like it the term PILOT doesn't mean all pilots are the
> same.

No, all pilots are capable of flying the plane, but obviously,
all 'programmers' are capable of comprehending how a vp machine
REALLY operates in Nv.

Hmmm. "all pilots are capable of flying the plane" ... Does that
include tug boat pilots. Now, let me educate you some more. Only the
people who have written or reviewed the code know "how a vp machine
REALLY operates in Nv." You are absolutely clueless.

> > and as
> > I was asked to and agreed from further publication, once
management
> > read it in GT, that the machines are indeed programmed to run

in

a few hot and many cold cycles.
>
> Talk about grammar!

No tricks please. Cut off the sentence and that's what you get.

I didn't touch it.

In any event, as long as they are still random
> over time and return the required payback, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

This

> doesn't mean I believe you, it just doesn't matter.

Talk about being tongue-twisted.... Let me know when you say what
you're trying to say. Until then understand this: I win so often
because I'm able to spot, after as little as 10 minutes of playing,

a

machine's hot or cold cycle,

Yup. Here's where the con man gets going. Of course, if anyone
actually had this ability then it wouldn't matter what strategy they
used now would it?

and that's another reason why you cannot
figure out MATHEMATICALLY how I have such a great win record. I
change games, machines and denominations constantly. Ever wonder

why?

Nope ... but let me guess ... You're a moron?

>
> > The word 'random' in the regulation is
> > adhered to and maintained nonetheless. If it's too difficult

for

> you
> > to understand I'll explain it face-to-face with you next month.
> > Engineers have no trouble understanding what this means, but

you

> > aren't one now, are you.
>
> Yes I am. I understand perfectly well what you are claiming. It
> really makes little sense. Just being random will provide plenty

of

> hot and cold cycles. I suspect you were simply asked to quit

lying.

> In any event, assume for a second that there really are hot and
cold
> cycles programmed in. Tell us how this effects HOW the game is
played
> out and the error rates of individuals playing? Even switching
> machines can't be the answer as you have no idea whether the next
> machine is in a hot or cold cycle or whether a machine is about

to

> switch cycles.

First, today's machines have multiple programs within, by the game,
by denom, and by by a combination of both in some instances.

They follow the requirements of the law. However, what you need to
understand is that these "multiple programs" may very well be nearly
exact copies of each other with the only difference being the pay
table or dennom.

Ever run
across a DB 25c game with the final hand played also on the $1

game?

I don't switch denoms so I wouldn't know. However, it would not be
surprising for the last hand to appear the same independent of denom.
I suspect the law allows these games to use the same "last hands"
buffer since that doesn't effect the game itself.

That's the norm, but if you know where to look there are quite a

few

with their own denominational programs also.

"denominational programs"? Would that be Methodist or Baptist?

It doesn't take long
to 'spot' a cycle. There are a few tricks I've learned and I won't
release that info. I call that MY ADVANTAGE.

The con continues.

And BTW--I believe the
engineer even if you refuse to believe me.

And, even if he doesn't exist.

He's a friend I made on an
Air New Zealand 1st Class wine-tasting flight on the way back from
australia--where there are many vp machines everywhere. As far as

the

details, I said I'll be glad to explain it to you in person because
it would take too long to write.

The final proof of the con. Do you really expect any intelligent
person to believe this crap. Tell me what's in it for IGT? How does
it improve their bottem line? Oh, and your previous comment
about "long cold and short hot cycles" WOULD make the machines
ILLEGAL. It would be impossible to pass the randomness tests. Do I
need to explain why?

> > > > I'm surprised you even said that being an ex-
> > > > programmer.
> > >
> > > That's because you're lying. And you've been caught ... again.

Where?

Right about now, take your pick. Cycles, multiple mysterious
programs, a mythical acquaintance (although I suppose that could have
been someone pulling your leg), etc., etc.

> >
> > Let me know when you're ready for that lesson.
>
> Your idiotic statements can't hide the fact you are scrambling

once

> again. The point is that strategies generated by computers are
almost
> perfect (down to a few thousands of a percent) and human error
rates
> can be kept low enough so a player with a sufficient edge can be
> successful. QED.

More hogwash from someone on tilt. Boy, I can't tell you how much
satisfaction this is watching a grown man whimper and ramble!

Right on. The mirror must be right in front of you.

> > > > For most, playing at home grows a separate set of gonads

that

> > > instantly disappear once they step foot inside casinos.
> > >
> > > I think this describes Robbie pretty well. We're starting to
get
> a
> > > picture of why he failed as an APer.
> >
> > Only problem is, I don't play at home. I did my studying and
> > practicing on airplanes. Can I say STRIKE THREE CALL--you

didn't

> even
> > get a swing in on that one!
>
> Sorry, little amn, I was referring to your "gonads that instantly
> disappear once they step foot inside casinos". Try to keep up.

Is this called "Switch The Question"?

Nope. It's your poor reading comprehension.

> > > > I'm still waiting for you not to look more stupid by
providing
> > just
> > > > one of your "facts before I make a statement" on this guy.
> > Support
> > > > your own methodology once even--for a change.
> > >
> > > You're the one who brought it up.
> >
> > So what. You made an assertion so back it up.
> >
> > We all know it's up to you to back
> > > up your statement or admit you guessed/lied ... although I do
> have
> > > the advantage of KNOWing the TRUTH so you won't be able to
bluff
> > your way out.
> >
> > Then support it or look even dumber than Elliot.
>
> No, I get plenty of smiles just watching you scramble like this.
You
> made one of your many lies and now can't back it up. It just
doesn't
> get much better. Of course, you can always ask your boss at GT

(as

if
> you hadn't already) and get the straight scoop.

Final answer: You have nothing. Why not admit it? I'll only laugh

at

you for an hour!

Still hiding behind that monkey boy facade. Predictable. Once again,
back up your claim or admit you lied, Mr. LAF.

>
> > > > > I know exactly what my results are. I also know there's a
> plus
> > > > sign. Of course, you'd never mention the TRUTH.
> > > >
> > > > From what I've seen you can easily come out to a 'plus

sign'

> once
> > > you
> > > > throw in all the free cash they handed out to you
> > >
> > > Could Robbie have lied about knowing my results??? I've never
> > picked
> > > up a penny of free cash there. Caught with your pants down
again,
> > > little man?
> >
> > Liar. You use your out-of-state address there and they send

cash

> > offers to you. My pants aren't down. I'm not wearing any right
now.
>
> Like I said, I haven't collected a penny of cash. Are the facts
still
> getting to you? Will you ever get anything right?

Here's the scenario: Out-of-state players get constant free cash +

1%

cash back up to $150 regularly from the Edge.

I still haven't gotten a penny. Can't you read?

And you're not taking
advantage of that POSITIVE PLAY??

Nope. Take 180 mile roundtrip to play a lower edge than is available
in LV. No thanks. The only reason I went there one time was to meet
some friends and that's the only reason I'll go back.

> > > in
> > > Laughlin one night and played at both Edgewater and Ramada
(where
> I
> > > stayed). I had 3RFs (now known as a clump) and came out way,
way
> > > ahead. I wonder if anyone now believes you saw a picture of

me

or
> > > that you have an "IN" with any casino employees like you claim
> >
> > So how many months did it take you to finally come up with
> something
> > to dispute my claim??
>
> I think you mean ... catch you in a lie. Let's be honest.

Catching people in a lie happens immediately.

True. As evidence by several items in this post.

You've had months to
make it up. Let's be truthful.

Just the facts, as usual.

> > Fact is fact. AC machines are biased, and only die-hard fans of
> video
> > poker played on any venue--such as you--and folks such as Harry
> > Porter swear by the legitimacy of those machines. Some people
have
> > to. They can't get to Nv. often enough to get a crack at

winning

> > something for a change, so they need to justify and feel good
about
> > doing it.
>
> Another unsupported assertion ... so much BS, so little time.
Please
> feel free to substantiate just one of your ridiculous claims. You
> know, provide us one of those illusive facts.

They don't film the Sopranos in NJ for nothing, dipstick. Use your
imagination if you can't handle the truth.

Still no supporting evidence? Anyone surprised? I didn't think so. I
think we can add another one to Robbies' lie list.

> > BTW--what's "10's of copies" mean?
>
> LMAO. People often write about successful books that have
> sold "millions of copies". I was just using the same approach to
> accurately describe you books' success.

Then you should be saying tens of thousands in your lingo. And I'm
the success. The books are a simple tool. So much envy....so little
dicky.

Now your claiming you sold 10,000 copies in a week. Chalk up another
lie.

>
> > > > And they never will be. DENIAL is on your side and a major
part
> > of
> > > > your life right now, remember?
> > >
> > > Yes, denial of your lies is, and always will be, a major part
of
> my
> > > responses.
> >
> > Remember denial's meaning.
>
> Main Entry: de·ni·al
> Pronunciation: di-'nI(-&)l, dE-
> Function: noun
> Date: 1528
> 1 : refusal to satisfy a request or desire
> 2 a (1) : refusal to admit the truth or reality (as of a

statement

or
> charge) (2) : assertion that an allegation is false b : refusal

to

> acknowledge a person or a thing : DISAVOWAL
>
> Especially note: 2 a (2). Anything else?

An accurate description of everything about you.

No, just the part where I deny all your false claims and lies. Once
again, the facts catch little Robbie off guard and he looks like a
fool. LMAO. I guess Robbie doesn't even know how to use a dictionary.

>
> With the proliferation of Indian gambling there are fewer and

fewer

> twice a year gamblers.

Huh? Where'd that opinion come from? Are you that far off and so
ruffled that you switch the question again??

Just the facts, as usual.

>
> > or daily players who claim they have
> > some sort of theoretical advantage over the casinos
>
> This has nothing to do with addiction. Addiction is a physical
> reaction of some kind of stimuli. The quantity of play may be an
> indicator but nothing else.

Forget it little dicky. You're not an expert in this field either,
rather, you're the potential patient.

I see. I guess Robbie doesn't even know what addiction means. This is
hilarious. He really didn't know that addiction is a PHYSICAL
response to some kind of stimuli. ROTFLMAO. And, you claim to be such
an expert.

>
> > when they need
> > those blinders to justify playing far more than they should?

97%?

> HA!
>
> Just the facts, as usual. The 3% number is provided by support
> groups, I have nothing to do with it. If a new number has become
> commonly accepted then point me to a reference.

But you like it because others with a similar disease as you have

put

it out for justification purposes. Brilliant!

Nope. Just the facts which you failed to refute. Is this good, or
what?

> > Paint the pretty picture, continuously saying
> > any 'wrong' is only what others are saddled with, and making up
> > excuses about your sickness as you go. If Mr. Spock came by and
did
> > the Vulcan Mind thing with you, even HE'D go berserk at the
> conflict,
> > corruption and self-denial that goes on within your twisted

mind.

>
> Mr Spock, eh? Are you having trouble separating your fantasies

from

> reality?

Left speechless on that one, hey? Very telling.....

Interesting. I've noted a trend lately where Robbie starts using the
phrases I use. It's pretty obvious that he has poor debating skills
so I shouldn't be surprised to see him copy my style. I intentionally
started using the "very telling ..." phrase recently to see what
would happend and wouldn't you know, Robbie copies it immediately.
Very telling ...

> > Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big blows.
>
> I wouldn't know, tell us about it. You are the only addict

present

in
> this discussion. Oh, that's right, you RECOVERED from your
addiction?
> ROTFLMAO.

You've been educated. Tnank me whenever. Until then, guess who's in
casinos daily vs. monthy?? But naturally, YOU DON'T GAMBLE!

Denial again. So like you, Robbie.

> > > > and how it would view your opinions of me here (you know,
liar
> > and
> > > > fraud, etc. etc.).
> > >
> > > I think that's pretty obvious given your lies in this post
alone.
> >
> > Doesn't answer the question. You think the only truthful people
who
> > gamble are AP's who say they aren't addicted, win all the time,
and
> > say they lead normal lives to boot.
>
> Nope. I'd never use the words "only" and "all". Poor Robbie still
> can't get over HIS lifestyle when HE was addicted

Oops! WHEN? I thought I still AM!!!

My bad. I should have used present case. We all know recovery from an
addiction is doable only by avoiding the source of the addiction.
Right?

>
> Funny, this Judge sounds exactly like little Robbie. Your problem
is a real judge deals in facts. You'd lose everytime.

All he'd have to do is stop for a moment, think of how people like
you've encouraged all the low lifes to come to town with wet dreams
of getting some of the money,

Lie. I've never "encouraged" anyone to come to LV.

and when they found out you lied to
them with your scammy strategy, they turn to crime and begin to

suck

off of the local economy.

I suspect there are a many low-lifes that have come to LV hoping to
get rich quick. Of course, none of them would be an APer since you
can't get rich quick playing VP. So, trying to equate these scumbags
to VP players is about as ridiculous as most of the things you say.
However, you are consistent, Robbie "ridiculous" Singer

I'd be a tad bit more concerned if I were
you. While you're away in Minn. hiding from your fantasy (and
selling/downsizing the property to get more gambling cash into your
pocket like your hero from Indiana did) you have a good chance of a
family of 14 Bangladesh cramming into your townhome. Stay up

tonight

and think about it.

I think they can find a more spacious place ... without a security
system.

It will get your mind off of how much you lost
today feeding your sick habit.

Hard to lose when when you don't gamble. Of course, I didn't win
today either.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > I have seen others try your system and post once or twice.
> > Interestingly, most get quiet very quickly.
>
> That's because people like you and other misleds intimidate them
> either one-on-one or in a gang-up situation. These are real

people

> who live honest lives and believe what they do and post is all
about
> doing & saying the right things. They aren't some degenerate, low
> life, self-disrespecting gambling addicts....at least anymore.

Most

> of you misleds don't have respect for others because all you have
on
> your minds are video poker and how much you want to just get to

the

> machines again. Not so with them.

Of course not. They may gamble just as much and any APer but

because

they are willing to suppress their brains, Robbie will gladly

imbrace

them. LMAO.

Nobody "gambles" (is that what you just said??) as much as the AP's
who actually do play the machines, unlike a good many of the ones who
are in it just for the business--i.e., video poker whores. In facxt,
that's what you've got going on over there in vpFREE right now--all
the wannabees and math geeks who don't have enough money to play, so
they make believe they are in the"In Crowd" with all their maniac-
like meaningless math posts.

> > > I just saw a guy post about playing
> > > negative games on vpFREE at the RIO and using what looked

like

a
> > > variation of my method, he hit 2 RF's on the $2 machine in I
> think
> > 4
> > > or 5 sessions. Of course it put some of the geeks there on
tilt,
> > but
> > > that's vpFREE for you. When you gonna chime in over there and
> > support
> > > your pahntom-buck geeks?
> > > What's a "mysterious model of immortality"?
> >
> > Where did you get the "im". Boy you are a lousy reader. In any
> event
> > I really don't care what he does himself up until the time he
> starts
> > to CLAIM that the math is wrong. At that time he will start
getting
> > some informative posts.
>
> Um....I think he already made a few comments that should get you
into
> tilt mode! Your buddy took a direct personal hit--you gonna let

him

> take all the heat?

Sorry, I haven't been following VPfree like you do. I'll catch up
later.

Correct. You have to feed you addiction first and foremost. That's
the most important part of your life now, isn't it. THEN you can get
to the 2nd most--making believe you 'belong' on the forums.

> Singer Lesson # 34,658 for you: NONE of the video poker theory

any

of
> the nerds come up with is in any way descriptive of how a real

game in the casino will work,

Make that Singer Fraud # 34,658 and I'm with you. Once again you
appear to be claiming the machines are not legal. My, my.

Facts are facts. You wouldn't know about them because you would never
WANT it to be true about the cycles. Tough love. Remember where you
heard it. And remember that no one said they were illegal. That's
your fantasy.

> unless thru unusual coincidence. They (and
> you) only waste the time writing all that useless jargon up

because

> it makes them feel like they're important

Just the facts, as usual. Are you back to claiming that 1+1 is not
equal to 2?

No. I'm claiming that these nerds will go on and on about useless
information just to get each other off. You know what I mean, don't
you.

> > > The strategies for VP are the simple
> > > > result of computer analysis of the games. Sorry, little

man,

> but
> > > your
> > > > way over your head here. But, please continue to post this
> > dribble
> > > > and let everyone see just what a complete idiot has to say.
> > >
> > > Classroom vs. reality again.
> >
> > Sorry, little man. It's reality ONLY. Nice try anyway. The
> discussion
> > is about the whether the strategies generated by computers are
> valid.
> > They are completely valid, unless of you're claiming all VP
> machines
> > are gaffed.
> >
> > > It's posts like these that I get the
> > > most mileage out of as I rip them to shreds to the delight of
my
> > many
> > > readers--many whom are scientists and are much more geekier
than
> > you
> > > think you are.
> >
> > Oh, I'm sure all the readers just love it when you claim that
> > computers can't do simple arithmetic. LMAO. You're so far down

in

a
> > hole that you'd better delete this little subthread or ignore

it

> next time.
>
> You're making it up as you go again--very unbecoming.

Yep. I made up the fact that computers can do simple arithmetic.
Pretty wild and crazy of me. I guess your real world is one where

no

computer, no cell phoine, no TV, no electronics at all can

function.

You live in strange world.

Well there it is again. Off on one of your illogic tangents.

> > > > > That's why the geeks have taken on vp as
> > > > > their theme when it comes time to create so much > > > >

Computer generated design? HAHAHA!! What a joke!! You're

> > masquerading
> > > as a clown today, right?
> >
> > What do YOU call a computer generated strategy? I know, "voodoo
> > math". This is why you're so unbelieveable to anyone with half

a

> > brain. It's obvious why you take this position. You can't

accept

> the
> > TRUTH about your failure as an APer. It's truly amazing to see
the
> > ridiculous depths the human mind will fall to in order to

protect

> the
> > ego.
>
> "COMPUTER GENERATED STRATEGY"? HAHAHA!! What a geek! A computer

is

a
> simple tool used in the development of parameters whatever the
> interest is. It doesn't GENERATE strategy or anything else.

I guess you've never used FVP or VPSM.

Nope. Why waste the money and time?

Little Robbie, the guru in his

own mind, has no idea that these programs actually generate
strategies. Idiotic isn't low enough to describe his VP intellect.
However, it was kind of you to insert your foot into your mouth for
all to see. LMAO bigtime.

HAHA! Now you change your wording since you've been caught in yet
another feel-good scenario of making it all up on the go. Because you
virtually admitted I'm right when I say the computers do
not 'generate strategy' (it almost splits my side just SAYING that!)
you change it over to the 'programs' that 'generate strategy'. The
computers, as I've said, are simply a tool. It's really embarrassing
for me to be scolding a nerd on this, but so goes the truth.

> I used it
> to help me create winning strategies--IT didn't generate them for
me!
> Do I have to educate you on EVERYTHING....even in your own field!?

Still chuckling. Are you for real?

....and in your own field. Shame on you!

> > Software engineer is just another name for programmer.
>
> Nananana! I knew that would get you!

I doubt it. Another lie to cover up your stupidity.

That's OK, little dicky. You should be used to having your feelings
hurt.

> Talk about
> > naive. Doesn't mean that all programmers/software engineers are
the
> > same, just like it the term PILOT doesn't mean all pilots are

the

> > same.
>
> No, all pilots are capable of flying the plane, but obviously,
> all 'programmers' are capable of comprehending how a vp machine
> REALLY operates in Nv.

Hmmm. "all pilots are capable of flying the plane" ... Does that
include tug boat pilots.

Just how lost are you here anyway?

Now, let me educate you some more. Only the

people who have written or reviewed the code know "how a vp machine
REALLY operates in Nv." You are absolutely clueless.

Exactly, and that's the only job my firend has. I know I know. You
just don't want it to be that I know someone in the business that you
don't. But don't be sad--you're in second place again. Which is the
same as last place!

>
> > > and as
> > > I was asked to and agreed from further publication, once
> management
> > > read it in GT, that the machines are indeed programmed to run
in
> a few hot and many cold cycles.
> >
> > Talk about grammar!
>
> No tricks please. Cut off the sentence and that's what you get.

I didn't touch it.

Look again.

> In any event, as long as they are still random
> > over time and return the required payback, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
This
> > doesn't mean I believe you, it just doesn't matter.
>
> Talk about being tongue-twisted.... Let me know when you say what
> you're trying to say. Until then understand this: I win so often
> because I'm able to spot, after as little as 10 minutes of

playing,

a
> machine's hot or cold cycle,

Yup. Here's where the con man gets going. Of course, if anyone
actually had this ability then it wouldn't matter what strategy

they used now would it?

Are you nuts? Don't answer that for your own sake! You wanna lose
$140 on dollar JB just to eventually hit a quad - assuming your
machine DOES change over to a hot cycle -just to be down $15 on the
same denoimination? Try again.

> and that's another reason why you cannot
> figure out MATHEMATICALLY how I have such a great win record. I
> change games, machines and denominations constantly. Ever wonder
why?

Nope ... but let me guess ... You're a moron?

OK, so you're perplexed beyond what the pea brain can handle. Don't
feel bad--the less that understand it the better. It wouldn't make
any difference to an 'AP" anyway. They're so stupid they'd just play
on and on regardless on the same machine anyway, because after a
while all they want to do is teach the machine a lesson.

> >
> > > The word 'random' in the regulation is
> > > adhered to and maintained nonetheless. If it's too difficult
for
> > you
> > > to understand I'll explain it face-to-face with you next

month.

> > > Engineers have no trouble understanding what this means, but
you
> > > aren't one now, are you.
> >
> > Yes I am. I understand perfectly well what you are claiming. It
> > really makes little sense. Just being random will provide

plenty

of
> > hot and cold cycles. I suspect you were simply asked to quit
lying.
> > In any event, assume for a second that there really are hot and
> cold
> > cycles programmed in. Tell us how this effects HOW the game is
> played
> > out and the error rates of individuals playing? Even switching
> > machines can't be the answer as you have no idea whether the

next

> > machine is in a hot or cold cycle or whether a machine is about
to
> > switch cycles.
>
> First, today's machines have multiple programs within, by the

game,

> by denom, and by by a combination of both in some instances.

They follow the requirements of the law. However, what you need to
understand is that these "multiple programs" may very well be

nearly

exact copies of each other with the only difference being the pay
table or dennom.

"May very well be" is what you change in your mind to "Is". Until you
get over that phobia you'll just keep arguing against reality.

> Ever run
> across a DB 25c game with the final hand played also on the $1
game?

I don't switch denoms so I wouldn't know. However, it would not be
surprising for the last hand to appear the same independent of

denom.

I suspect the law allows these games to use the same "last hands"
buffer since that doesn't effect the game itself.

> That's the norm, but if you know where to look there are quite a
few
> with their own denominational programs also.

"denominational programs"? Would that be Methodist or Baptist?

In my case, it's Catholic.

> It doesn't take long
> to 'spot' a cycle. There are a few tricks I've learned and I

won't

> release that info. I call that MY ADVANTAGE.

The con continues.

And the denial remains.

> And BTW--I believe the
> engineer even if you refuse to believe me.

And, even if he doesn't exist.

He does. I wrote a public article about it in GT, and have it & a
video on the subject my site. GT verified the source before it ran.
As they always do.

> He's a friend I made on an
> Air New Zealand 1st Class wine-tasting flight on the way back

from

> australia--where there are many vp machines everywhere. As far as
the
> details, I said I'll be glad to explain it to you in person

because

> it would take too long to write.

The final proof of the con. Do you really expect any intelligent
person to believe this crap. Tell me what's in it for IGT? How does
it improve their bottem line? Oh, and your previous comment
about "long cold and short hot cycles" WOULD make the machines
ILLEGAL. It would be impossible to pass the randomness tests. Do I
need to explain why?

Ever been to Australia? Didn't think so. Ever been on a 1st class
over-the-ocean flight? Didn't think so. Now clear the jealousy and
stick to the subject. I don't know and don't care about anyone else's
bottom line. My opinion is it doesn't change a thing, and that's
because the interpretation of 'randomness' in the regulation is not
compromised. I had to ask why not, and I'm 10 times smarter than you.
That's why I said I'd explain it to you, because you'll never get it
for years. I can see you're curious and who wouldn't be that is
hooked on the game. And it doesn't make anything ILLEGAL about your
beloved machines. Just remember this to help you keep your sanity:
The machines retain their random characteristics, they of course pass
all tests, and they are 100% legal because that's the only way
they're manufactured to Nv. standards. And also remember this: I
don't have to believe the guy and you don't either. That's why I have
spent extensive time comparing my true casino results with many
similar trials at home on WinPoker, and for several years now I've
done FAR FAR better in the casinos than here. I'm buying it as 100%
fact. If you want to smarten up then you will too.

> > Your idiotic statements can't hide the fact you are scrambling
once
> > again. The point is that strategies generated by computers are
> almost
> > perfect (down to a few thousands of a percent) and human error
> rates
> > can be kept low enough so a player with a sufficient edge can

be

> > successful. QED.
>
> More hogwash from someone on tilt. Boy, I can't tell you how much
> satisfaction this is watching a grown man whimper and ramble!

Right on. The mirror must be right in front of you.

> > > Only problem is, I don't play at home. I did my studying and
> > > practicing on airplanes. Can I say STRIKE THREE CALL--you
didn't
> > even
> > > get a swing in on that one!
> >
> > Sorry, little amn, I was referring to your "gonads that

instantly

> > disappear once they step foot inside casinos". Try to keep up.
>
> Is this called "Switch The Question"?

Nope. It's your poor reading comprehension.

Or more likely switching the question.

> > > Liar. You use your out-of-state address there and they send
cash
> > > offers to you. My pants aren't down. I'm not wearing any

right

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> now.
> >
> > Like I said, I haven't collected a penny of cash. Are the facts
> still
> > getting to you? Will you ever get anything right?
>
> Here's the scenario: Out-of-state players get constant free cash

+

1%
> cash back up to $150 regularly from the Edge.

I still haven't gotten a penny. Can't you read?

> And you're not taking
> advantage of that POSITIVE PLAY??

Nope. Take 180 mile roundtrip to play a lower edge than is

available

in LV. No thanks. The only reason I went there one time was to meet
some friends and that's the only reason I'll go back.

First let me guess--those friends were addicted to video poker. The
plays at the Edgewater are all around 102% for the regular-playing
geeks among us. And I know you fear that trip because you have to buy
gasoline and it puts wear & tear on your vehicle--all expenses
problem gamblers can't afford. But you do go there on occasion. Admit
it. Don't be shy.

> > > > in
> > > > Laughlin one night and played at both Edgewater and Ramada
> (where
> > I
> > > > stayed). I had 3RFs (now known as a clump) and came out

way,

> way
> > > > ahead. I wonder if anyone now believes you saw a picture of
me
> or
> > > > that you have an "IN" with any casino employees like you

claim

> > >
> > > So how many months did it take you to finally come up with
> > something
> > > to dispute my claim??
> >
> > I think you mean ... catch you in a lie. Let's be honest.
>
> Catching people in a lie happens immediately.

True. As evidence by several items in this post.

It's about time you told some truth about your lies here.

> You've had months to
> make it up. Let's be truthful.

Just the facts, as usual.

> > > Fact is fact. AC machines are biased, and only die-hard fans

of

> > video
> > > poker played on any venue--such as you--and folks such as

Harry

> > > Porter swear by the legitimacy of those machines. Some people
> have
> > > to. They can't get to Nv. often enough to get a crack at
winning
> > > something for a change, so they need to justify and feel good
> about
> > > doing it.
> >
> > Another unsupported assertion ... so much BS, so little time.
> Please
> > feel free to substantiate just one of your ridiculous claims.

You

> > know, provide us one of those illusive facts.
>
> They don't film the Sopranos in NJ for nothing, dipstick. Use

your

> imagination if you can't handle the truth.

Still no supporting evidence? Anyone surprised? I didn't think so.

I

think we can add another one to Robbies' lie list.

I wonder what 'fact' you'd use to support your claim that the
machines are fair.....Hmmm....I know, you'd post a copy of the state
regulation and you'd actually BELIEVE it! In New Jersey no less!!
What a simpleton!!!

> > > BTW--what's "10's of copies" mean?
> >
> > LMAO. People often write about successful books that have
> > sold "millions of copies". I was just using the same approach

to

> > accurately describe you books' success.
>
> Then you should be saying tens of thousands in your lingo. And

I'm

> the success. The books are a simple tool. So much envy....so

little

> dicky.

Now your claiming you sold 10,000 copies in a week. Chalk up

another

lie.

What week? So who sells 'millions of copies' weekly?? What'd you do,
just get off the toilet and lose your train of thought?

No, just the part where I deny all your false claims and lies. Once
again, the facts catch little Robbie off guard and he looks like a
fool. LMAO. I guess Robbie doesn't even know how to use a

dictionary.

What's a dictionary?

> > > or daily players who claim they have
> > > some sort of theoretical advantage over the casinos
> >
> > This has nothing to do with addiction. Addiction is a physical
> > reaction of some kind of stimuli. The quantity of play may be

an

> > indicator but nothing else.
>
> Forget it little dicky. You're not an expert in this field

either,

> rather, you're the potential patient.

I see. I guess Robbie doesn't even know what addiction means. This

is

hilarious. He really didn't know that addiction is a PHYSICAL
response to some kind of stimuli. ROTFLMAO. And, you claim to be

such an expert.

You're quoting some article stuff again, and i'm sure the
professional who wrote it knows what he's talking about. you, on the
other hand, use self-serving suggestions about it. that's what makes
you look like the fool...the very big, denying fool.

> But you like it because others with a similar disease as you have
put
> it out for justification purposes. Brilliant!

Nope. Just the facts which you failed to refute. Is this good, or
what?

More like what. Or it could be good watching you dance away from the
truth so often and solidify my assertion that you are a true-to-life
video poker junkie beyond help.

> > > Paint the pretty picture, continuously saying
> > > any 'wrong' is only what others are saddled with, and making

up

> > > excuses about your sickness as you go. If Mr. Spock came by

and

> did
> > > the Vulcan Mind thing with you, even HE'D go berserk at the
> > conflict,
> > > corruption and self-denial that goes on within your twisted
mind.
> >
> > Mr Spock, eh? Are you having trouble separating your fantasies
from
> > reality?
>
> Left speechless on that one, hey? Very telling.....

Interesting. I've noted a trend lately where Robbie starts using

the

phrases I use. It's pretty obvious that he has poor debating skills
so I shouldn't be surprised to see him copy my style. I

intentionally

started using the "very telling ..." phrase recently to see what
would happend and wouldn't you know, Robbie copies it immediately.
Very telling ...

Looks like you've got an itch from me that you can't scratch!

> > > Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big blows.
> >
> > I wouldn't know, tell us about it. You are the only addict
present
> in
> > this discussion. Oh, that's right, you RECOVERED from your
> addiction?
> > ROTFLMAO.
>
> You've been educated. Tnank me whenever. Until then, guess who's

in

> casinos daily vs. monthy?? But naturally, YOU DON'T GAMBLE!

Denial again. So like you, Robbie.

???

> > > > > and how it would view your opinions of me here (you know,
> liar
> > > and
> > > > > fraud, etc. etc.).
> > > >
> > > > I think that's pretty obvious given your lies in this post
> alone.
> > >
> > > Doesn't answer the question. You think the only truthful

people

> who
> > > gamble are AP's who say they aren't addicted, win all the

time,

> and
> > > say they lead normal lives to boot.
> >
> > Nope. I'd never use the words "only" and "all". Poor Robbie

still

> > can't get over HIS lifestyle when HE was addicted
>
> Oops! WHEN? I thought I still AM!!!

My bad. I should have used present case. We all know recovery from

an

addiction is doable only by avoiding the source of the addiction.
Right?

One sign of a frustrated 'debater' is constant slip-ups. That's you.
And it's like pulling your pants down all over again.

> > Funny, this Judge sounds exactly like little Robbie. Your

problem

> is a real judge deals in facts. You'd lose everytime.
>
> All he'd have to do is stop for a moment, think of how people

like

> you've encouraged all the low lifes to come to town with wet

dreams

> of getting some of the money,

Lie. I've never "encouraged" anyone to come to LV.

Sure you do. You make believe you win, you post you win, and the low
life penny-players over on vpFREE hear about it and want to be like
dicky, so they move their large poverty-filled families to LV and try
to follow in your hollow footsteps. That's also why they get so
blinded (and turned on) by the math geek-logic. It all seems so easy
from the outside. I've saved a few but i can't save everyone.

> and when they found out you lied to
> them with your scammy strategy, they turn to crime and begin to
suck
> off of the local economy.

I suspect there are a many low-lifes that have come to LV hoping to
get rich quick. Of course, none of them would be an APer since you
can't get rich quick playing VP. So, trying to equate these

scumbags

to VP players is about as ridiculous as most of the things you say.
However, you are consistent, Robbie "ridiculous" Singer

Bitigating your responsibility here isn't the answer, little dicky.
You part of the problem and you won't admit that either.

> I'd be a tad bit more concerned if I were
> you. While you're away in Minn. hiding from your fantasy (and
> selling/downsizing the property to get more gambling cash into

your

> pocket like your hero from Indiana did) you have a good chance of

a

> family of 14 Bangladesh cramming into your townhome. Stay up
tonight
> and think about it.

I think they can find a more spacious place ... without a security
system.

You gorget. Almost every South/Central Asian who moves to LA/LV has a
very well educated man at the helm, and it's almost always in the
sciences. Home security systems are of little deterrent for these
folks, and they can steal a new car in the blink of an eye if they
chose to.

> It will get your mind off of how much you lost
> today feeding your sick habit.

Hard to lose when when you don't gamble. Of course, I didn't win
today either.

But the biggest problem of all? You couldn't get me or vp off your
mind.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > I have seen others try your system and post once or twice.
> > > Interestingly, most get quiet very quickly.
> >
> > That's because people like you and other misleds intimidate

them

> > either one-on-one or in a gang-up situation. These are real
people
> > who live honest lives and believe what they do and post is all
> about
> > doing & saying the right things. They aren't some degenerate,

low

> > life, self-disrespecting gambling addicts....at least anymore.
Most
> > of you misleds don't have respect for others because all you

have

> on
> > your minds are video poker and how much you want to just get to
the
> > machines again. Not so with them.
>
> Of course not. They may gamble just as much and any APer but
because
> they are willing to suppress their brains, Robbie will gladly
imbrace
> them. LMAO.

Nobody "gambles" (is that what you just said??) as much as the AP's

Please provide one single little fact to back up this assertion.
Don't have any? Didn't think so. Having gambled in MN where AP is
pretty much unheard of, I can tell you that most players who show up
all the time don't have a clue. Don't believe me. I'll meet you at
one of the casinos and take you around. Don't want to make the long
trip? Then, let's meet at Sams' Town where the same TRUTH holds.
Short coiners galore, busy 9-5 DDB machines. Same players regularly
all the while FP machines sit idle.

> > > > I just saw a guy post about playing
> > > > negative games on vpFREE at the RIO and using what looked
like
> a
> > > > variation of my method, he hit 2 RF's on the $2 machine in

I

> > think
> > > 4
> > > > or 5 sessions. Of course it put some of the geeks there on
> tilt,
> > > but
> > > > that's vpFREE for you. When you gonna chime in over there

and

> > > support
> > > > your pahntom-buck geeks?
> > > > What's a "mysterious model of immortality"?
> > >
> > > Where did you get the "im". Boy you are a lousy reader. In

any

> > event
> > > I really don't care what he does himself up until the time he
> > starts
> > > to CLAIM that the math is wrong. At that time he will start
> getting
> > > some informative posts.
> >
> > Um....I think he already made a few comments that should get

you

> into
> > tilt mode! Your buddy took a direct personal hit--you gonna let
him
> > take all the heat?
>
> Sorry, I haven't been following VPfree like you do. I'll catch up
> later.

Correct. You have to feed you addiction first and foremost.

Haven't gambled either. Are you ever right?

That's
the most important part of your life now, isn't it. THEN you can

get

to the 2nd most--making believe you 'belong' on the forums.

There's that jealousy again. It's a PUBLIC forum, however, it is
moderated to keep low life scum like little Robbie from destroying
it. This forum is a perfect example of what would happen if Robbie
was a allowed in.

> > Singer Lesson # 34,658 for you: NONE of the video poker theory
any
> of
> > the nerds come up with is in any way descriptive of how a real
game in the casino will work,
>
> Make that Singer Fraud # 34,658 and I'm with you. Once again you
> appear to be claiming the machines are not legal. My, my.

Facts are facts.

Once again let's have the proof. None? Didn't think so.

You wouldn't know about them because you would never
WANT it to be true about the cycles. Tough love. Remember where you
heard it. And remember that no one said they were illegal. That's
your fantasy.

Please explain how they can be legal. Oh, that's right, your math
skills are a tad bit NONEXISTENT.

>
> > unless thru unusual coincidence. They (and
> > you) only waste the time writing all that useless jargon up
because
> > it makes them feel like they're important
>
> Just the facts, as usual. Are you back to claiming that 1+1 is

not

> equal to 2?

No. I'm claiming that these nerds will go on and on about useless
information just to get each other off. You know what I mean, don't
you.

On, you mean like little Robbie and old cars. Yessiree, just like
that.

> > > > The strategies for VP are the simple
> > > > > result of computer analysis of the games. Sorry, little
man,
> > but
> > > > your
> > > > > way over your head here. But, please continue to post

this

> > > dribble
> > > > > and let everyone see just what a complete idiot has to

say.

> > > >
> > > > Classroom vs. reality again.
> > >
> > > Sorry, little man. It's reality ONLY. Nice try anyway. The
> > discussion
> > > is about the whether the strategies generated by computers

are

> > valid.
> > > They are completely valid, unless of you're claiming all VP
> > machines
> > > are gaffed.
> > >
> > > > It's posts like these that I get the
> > > > most mileage out of as I rip them to shreds to the delight

of

> my
> > > many
> > > > readers--many whom are scientists and are much more geekier
> than
> > > you
> > > > think you are.
> > >
> > > Oh, I'm sure all the readers just love it when you claim that
> > > computers can't do simple arithmetic. LMAO. You're so far

down

in
> a
> > > hole that you'd better delete this little subthread or ignore
it
> > next time.
> >
> > You're making it up as you go again--very unbecoming.
>
> Yep. I made up the fact that computers can do simple arithmetic.
> Pretty wild and crazy of me. I guess your real world is one where
no
> computer, no cell phoine, no TV, no electronics at all can
function.
> You live in strange world.

Well there it is again. Off on one of your illogic tangents.

Just the facts, as usual. If you want to claim that computers can't
do simple arithmetic, that's fine with me. Of course, it does make
you look pretty stupid. Now, did you forget what was being discussed?
You know, your claim that computers can't generate strategies (which
only takes simple math to compute).

> > > > > > That's why the geeks have taken on vp as
> > > > > > their theme when it comes time to create so much > > >

Computer generated design? HAHAHA!! What a joke!! You're
> > > masquerading
> > > > as a clown today, right?
> > >
> > > What do YOU call a computer generated strategy? I

know, "voodoo

> > > math". This is why you're so unbelieveable to anyone with

half

a
> > > brain. It's obvious why you take this position. You can't
accept
> > the
> > > TRUTH about your failure as an APer. It's truly amazing to

see

> the
> > > ridiculous depths the human mind will fall to in order to
protect
> > the
> > > ego.
> >
> > "COMPUTER GENERATED STRATEGY"? HAHAHA!! What a geek! A computer
is
> a
> > simple tool used in the development of parameters whatever the
> > interest is. It doesn't GENERATE strategy or anything else.
>
> I guess you've never used FVP or VPSM.

Nope. Why waste the money and time?

So, you could support your claim that you know anything at all about
VP.

Little Robbie, the guru in his
> own mind, has no idea that these programs actually generate
> strategies. Idiotic isn't low enough to describe his VP

intellect.

> However, it was kind of you to insert your foot into your mouth

for

> all to see. LMAO bigtime.

HAHA! Now you change your wording since you've been caught in yet
another feel-good scenario of making it all up on the go.

Of course, little man. Just admit you are way over your head and
crawl back under that rock. Before you go, tell us again that
computer software, like FVP and VPSM, can't generate VP strategies.
ROTFLMAO.

Because you
virtually admitted I'm right when I say the computers do
not 'generate strategy' (it almost splits my side just SAYING

that!)

you change it over to the 'programs' that 'generate strategy'. The
computers, as I've said, are simply a tool. It's really

embarrassing

for me to be scolding a nerd on this, but so goes the truth.

Everyone already knows that computer hardware is only a hunk of metal
without software. That is why term term "computer" is used to
incorporate both hardware and software. I really hope this is just
another lame attempt to save face and you really aren't this ignorant.

>
> > I used it
> > to help me create winning strategies--IT didn't generate them

for

> me!
> > Do I have to educate you on EVERYTHING....even in your own

field!?

>
> Still chuckling. Are you for real?

....and in your own field. Shame on you!

Keep it up, I love it when you scramble around so much.

> > Talk about
> > > naive. Doesn't mean that all programmers/software engineers

are

> the
> > > same, just like it the term PILOT doesn't mean all pilots are
the
> > > same.
> >
> > No, all pilots are capable of flying the plane, but obviously,
> > all 'programmers' are capable of comprehending how a vp machine
> > REALLY operates in Nv.
>
> Hmmm. "all pilots are capable of flying the plane" ... Does that
> include tug boat pilots.

Just how lost are you here anyway?

Got you again. Now that you've been educated again you can thank me
or more likely seeth in an envious rage and post more idiotic junk.

Now, let me educate you some more. Only the
> people who have written or reviewed the code know "how a vp

machine

> REALLY operates in Nv." You are absolutely clueless.
>
Exactly, and that's the only job my firend has. I know I know. You
just don't want it to be that I know someone in the business that

you

don't.

Sure Robbie. Tell us his name and credentials so it can be verified.
What? You can't do that? Oh my, what a surprise.

> > In any event, as long as they are still random
> > > over time and return the required payback, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
> This
> > > doesn't mean I believe you, it just doesn't matter.
> >
> > Talk about being tongue-twisted.... Let me know when you say

what

> > you're trying to say. Until then understand this: I win so

often

> > because I'm able to spot, after as little as 10 minutes of
playing,
> a
> > machine's hot or cold cycle,
>
> Yup. Here's where the con man gets going. Of course, if anyone
> actually had this ability then it wouldn't matter what strategy
they used now would it?

Are you nuts? Don't answer that for your own sake! You wanna lose
$140 on dollar JB just to eventually hit a quad - assuming your
machine DOES change over to a hot cycle -just to be down $15 on the
same denoimination? Try again.

Another surprise. The con continues.

>
> > and that's another reason why you cannot
> > figure out MATHEMATICALLY how I have such a great win record. I
> > change games, machines and denominations constantly. Ever

wonder

> why?
>
> Nope ... but let me guess ... You're a moron?

OK, so you're perplexed beyond what the pea brain can handle. Don't
feel bad--the less that understand it the better. It wouldn't make
any difference to an 'AP" anyway. They're so stupid they'd just

play

on and on regardless on the same machine anyway, because after a
while all they want to do is teach the machine a lesson.

And continues. Notice that absolute absence of any facts. Typical con
man approach ... First, you call established TRUTHs all wrong and
tell everyone they are being misled. Next you tell everyone that YOU
and only YOU have the solution. Snake oil at its' finest.

>
> > >
> > > > The word 'random' in the regulation is
> > > > adhered to and maintained nonetheless. If it's too

difficult

> for
> > > you
> > > > to understand I'll explain it face-to-face with you next
month.
> > > > Engineers have no trouble understanding what this means,

but

> you
> > > > aren't one now, are you.
> > >
> > > Yes I am. I understand perfectly well what you are claiming.

It

> > > really makes little sense. Just being random will provide
plenty
> of
> > > hot and cold cycles. I suspect you were simply asked to quit
> lying.
> > > In any event, assume for a second that there really are hot

and

> > cold
> > > cycles programmed in. Tell us how this effects HOW the game

is

> > played
> > > out and the error rates of individuals playing? Even

switching

> > > machines can't be the answer as you have no idea whether the
next
> > > machine is in a hot or cold cycle or whether a machine is

about

> to
> > > switch cycles.
> >
> > First, today's machines have multiple programs within, by the
game,
> > by denom, and by by a combination of both in some instances.
>
> They follow the requirements of the law. However, what you need

to

> understand is that these "multiple programs" may very well be
nearly
> exact copies of each other with the only difference being the pay
> table or dennom.

"May very well be" is what you change in your mind to "Is". Until

you

get over that phobia you'll just keep arguing against reality.

It's common sense. IGT and other game providers are in business. The
base cost of the machines is increased every time they have to put in
additional programs. They will put in only what is required by law
and no more to increase their bottem line. It's all really very
simple, little man. That is, as long as you're not perpetrating a con.

>
> > Ever run
> > across a DB 25c game with the final hand played also on the $1
> game?
>
> I don't switch denoms so I wouldn't know. However, it would not

be

> surprising for the last hand to appear the same independent of
denom.
> I suspect the law allows these games to use the same "last hands"
> buffer since that doesn't effect the game itself.
>
> > That's the norm, but if you know where to look there are quite

a

> few
> > with their own denominational programs also.
>
> "denominational programs"? Would that be Methodist or Baptist?

In my case, it's Catholic.
>
> > It doesn't take long
> > to 'spot' a cycle. There are a few tricks I've learned and I
won't
> > release that info. I call that MY ADVANTAGE.
>
> The con continues.

And the denial remains.

Yup. I tend to side with reason and fact.

>
> > And BTW--I believe the
> > engineer even if you refuse to believe me.
>
> And, even if he doesn't exist.

He does. I wrote a public article about it in GT, and have it & a
video on the subject my site. GT verified the source before it ran.
As they always do.

Of course they did. Unverifiable statements are common tools of the
average con man.

>
> > He's a friend I made on an
> > Air New Zealand 1st Class wine-tasting flight on the way back
from
> > australia--where there are many vp machines everywhere. As far

as

> the
> > details, I said I'll be glad to explain it to you in person
because
> > it would take too long to write.
>
> The final proof of the con. Do you really expect any intelligent
> person to believe this crap. Tell me what's in it for IGT? How

does

> it improve their bottem line? Oh, and your previous comment
> about "long cold and short hot cycles" WOULD make the machines
> ILLEGAL. It would be impossible to pass the randomness tests. Do

I

> need to explain why?

Ever been to Australia? Didn't think so. Ever been on a 1st class
over-the-ocean flight? Didn't think so.

Now tell us how this effects whether machnes have hot and cold
cycles. Can't? Didn't think so. Typical con man approach when backed
up against a wall. Try and change the subject.

Now clear the jealousy and
stick to the subject. I don't know and don't care about anyone

else's

bottom line.

No, but IGT cares and would not risk their business for absolutely no
purpose.

My opinion is it doesn't change a thing, and that's
because the interpretation of 'randomness' in the regulation is not
compromised.

Oh, but it would be unless the hot and cold cycles were EXACTLY the
same duration. But, you stated the cold cycles were longer, didn't
you.

I had to ask why not, and I'm 10 times smarter than you.
That's why I said I'd explain it to you, because you'll never get

it

for years.

More con man BS. Only the con man has it all figured out. We've seen
this all before in movies and TV shows, little man. LMAO.

I can see you're curious and who wouldn't be that is
hooked on the game. And it doesn't make anything ILLEGAL about your
beloved machines. Just remember this to help you keep your sanity:
The machines retain their random characteristics, they of course

pass

all tests, and they are 100% legal because that's the only way
they're manufactured to Nv. standards. And also remember this: I
don't have to believe the guy and you don't either. That's why I

have

spent extensive time comparing my true casino results with many
similar trials at home on WinPoker, and for several years now I've
done FAR FAR better in the casinos than here. I'm buying it as 100%
fact. If you want to smarten up then you will too.

Does it get any more obvious than this? Did you steal this script
from a TV show? Or Kevin Trudeau?

> > > > Liar. You use your out-of-state address there and they send
> cash
> > > > offers to you. My pants aren't down. I'm not wearing any
right
> > now.
> > >
> > > Like I said, I haven't collected a penny of cash. Are the

facts

> > still
> > > getting to you? Will you ever get anything right?
> >
> > Here's the scenario: Out-of-state players get constant free

cash

+
> 1%
> > cash back up to $150 regularly from the Edge.
>
> I still haven't gotten a penny. Can't you read?
>
> > And you're not taking
> > advantage of that POSITIVE PLAY??
>
> Nope. Take 180 mile roundtrip to play a lower edge than is
available
> in LV. No thanks. The only reason I went there one time was to

meet

> some friends and that's the only reason I'll go back.

First let me guess--those friends were addicted to video poker.

They enjoy it, but they aren't APers. They gamble for fun only. They
live in AZ and have many other interests.

The
plays at the Edgewater are all around 102% for the regular-playing
geeks among us.

So?

And I know you fear that trip because you have to buy
gasoline and it puts wear & tear on your vehicle--all expenses
problem gamblers can't afford. But you do go there on occasion.

Admit

it. Don't be shy.

I already did. Once since I moved to LV. Can't you read? Is that
alcohol affecting your brain again?

> > > > Fact is fact. AC machines are biased, and only die-hard

fans

of
> > > video
> > > > poker played on any venue--such as you--and folks such as
Harry
> > > > Porter swear by the legitimacy of those machines. Some

people

> > have
> > > > to. They can't get to Nv. often enough to get a crack at
> winning
> > > > something for a change, so they need to justify and feel

good

> > about
> > > > doing it.
> > >
> > > Another unsupported assertion ... so much BS, so little time.
> > Please
> > > feel free to substantiate just one of your ridiculous claims.
You
> > > know, provide us one of those illusive facts.
> >
> > They don't film the Sopranos in NJ for nothing, dipstick. Use
your
> > imagination if you can't handle the truth.
>
> Still no supporting evidence? Anyone surprised? I didn't think

so.

I
> think we can add another one to Robbies' lie list.

I wonder what 'fact' you'd use to support your claim that the
machines are fair.....Hmmm....I know, you'd post a copy of the

state

regulation and you'd actually BELIEVE it!

Yes.

In New Jersey no less!!

Yes.

What a simpleton!!!

Nice try, but this con is as obvious as it gets.

>
> > > > BTW--what's "10's of copies" mean?
> > >
> > > LMAO. People often write about successful books that have
> > > sold "millions of copies". I was just using the same approach
to
> > > accurately describe you books' success.
> >
> > Then you should be saying tens of thousands in your lingo. And
I'm
> > the success. The books are a simple tool. So much envy....so
little
> > dicky.
>
> Now your claiming you sold 10,000 copies in a week. Chalk up
another
> lie.

What week? So who sells 'millions of copies' weekly?? What'd you

do,

just get off the toilet and lose your train of thought?

You seem to have forgotten the context where I used "10s of copies".
Oh well, that's what happens when I have to deal with an ignoramus.
Go back a few posts an feel like an idiot ... again.

>
> No, just the part where I deny all your false claims and lies.

Once

> again, the facts catch little Robbie off guard and he looks like

a

> fool. LMAO. I guess Robbie doesn't even know how to use a
dictionary.

What's a dictionary?

That's right ... it's a place that contains facts. You wouldn't know
anything about one.

>
> > > > or daily players who claim they have
> > > > some sort of theoretical advantage over the casinos
> > >
> > > This has nothing to do with addiction. Addiction is a

physical

> > > reaction of some kind of stimuli. The quantity of play may be
an
> > > indicator but nothing else.
> >
> > Forget it little dicky. You're not an expert in this field
either,
> > rather, you're the potential patient.
>
> I see. I guess Robbie doesn't even know what addiction means.

This

is
> hilarious. He really didn't know that addiction is a PHYSICAL
> response to some kind of stimuli. ROTFLMAO. And, you claim to be
such an expert.

You're quoting some article stuff again, and i'm sure the
professional who wrote it knows what he's talking about.

ROTFLMAO again and again. Is this good, or what?

> > > > Paint the pretty picture, continuously saying
> > > > any 'wrong' is only what others are saddled with, and

making

up
> > > > excuses about your sickness as you go. If Mr. Spock came by
and
> > did
> > > > the Vulcan Mind thing with you, even HE'D go berserk at the
> > > conflict,
> > > > corruption and self-denial that goes on within your twisted
> mind.
> > >
> > > Mr Spock, eh? Are you having trouble separating your

fantasies

> from
> > > reality?
> >
> > Left speechless on that one, hey? Very telling.....
>
> Interesting. I've noted a trend lately where Robbie starts using
the
> phrases I use. It's pretty obvious that he has poor debating

skills

> so I shouldn't be surprised to see him copy my style. I
intentionally
> started using the "very telling ..." phrase recently to see what
> would happend and wouldn't you know, Robbie copies it

immediately.

> Very telling ...

Looks like you've got an itch from me that you can't scratch!

To be perfectly honest, little Robbie has improved his style by
immitating me. Unfortunately, he still tries to argue with assertions
and lies instead of facts. That will be his downfall forever.

>
> > > > Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big blows.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't know, tell us about it. You are the only addict
> present
> > in
> > > this discussion. Oh, that's right, you RECOVERED from your
> > addiction?
> > > ROTFLMAO.
> >
> > You've been educated. Tnank me whenever. Until then, guess

who's

in
> > casinos daily vs. monthy?? But naturally, YOU DON'T GAMBLE!
>
> Denial again. So like you, Robbie.

???

It's English, try reading each word very slowly, then say them out
loud. Try that 3 or 4 times and maybe you can get it. Naaaaaahhhhh.

>
> > > > > > and how it would view your opinions of me here (you

know,

> > liar
> > > > and
> > > > > > fraud, etc. etc.).
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that's pretty obvious given your lies in this

post

> > alone.
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't answer the question. You think the only truthful
people
> > who
> > > > gamble are AP's who say they aren't addicted, win all the
time,
> > and
> > > > say they lead normal lives to boot.
> > >
> > > Nope. I'd never use the words "only" and "all". Poor Robbie
still
> > > can't get over HIS lifestyle when HE was addicted
> >
> > Oops! WHEN? I thought I still AM!!!
>
> My bad. I should have used present case. We all know recovery

from

an
> addiction is doable only by avoiding the source of the addiction.
> Right?

One sign of a frustrated 'debater' is constant slip-ups. That's

you.

Avoiding the question, little man? Don't worry, everyone already
knows the answer. Avoidence is the ONLY cure.

> > > Funny, this Judge sounds exactly like little Robbie. Your
problem
> > is a real judge deals in facts. You'd lose everytime.
> >
> > All he'd have to do is stop for a moment, think of how people
like
> > you've encouraged all the low lifes to come to town with wet
dreams
> > of getting some of the money,
>
> Lie. I've never "encouraged" anyone to come to LV.

Sure you do. You make believe you win, you post you win, and the

low

life penny-players over on vpFREE hear about it and want to be like
dicky, so they move their large poverty-filled families to LV and

try

to follow in your hollow footsteps.

Of course they do. Is this why you're so jealous? First, of all I
would hope anyone "following in my footsteps" would be listening to
everything I've said. You know, the facts. While money can be made,
it isn't much and who would come here for a measely $17K in an entire
year. You really are grasping at straws.

> > and when they found out you lied to
> > them with your scammy strategy, they turn to crime and begin to
> suck
> > off of the local economy.
>
> I suspect there are a many low-lifes that have come to LV hoping

to

> get rich quick. Of course, none of them would be an APer since

you

> can't get rich quick playing VP. So, trying to equate these
scumbags
> to VP players is about as ridiculous as most of the things you

say.

> However, you are consistent, Robbie "ridiculous" Singer

Bitigating your responsibility here isn't the answer, little dicky.
You part of the problem and you won't admit that either.

Just the facts, as usual. I see once again that you have nothing to
refute my logical reply. This is getting way tooooooo easy.

>
> > I'd be a tad bit more concerned if I were
> > you. While you're away in Minn. hiding from your fantasy (and
> > selling/downsizing the property to get more gambling cash into
your
> > pocket like your hero from Indiana did) you have a good chance

of

a
> > family of 14 Bangladesh cramming into your townhome. Stay up
> tonight
> > and think about it.
>
> I think they can find a more spacious place ... without a

security

> system.

You gorget. Almost every South/Central Asian who moves to LA/LV has

a

very well educated man at the helm,

Of course they do. So little time, so many worthless assertions. Is
this why you changed jobs so often? You couldn't get way with faking
it forever?

and it's almost always in the
sciences. Home security systems are of little deterrent for these
folks, and they can steal a new car in the blink of an eye if they
chose to.

If they break into my place they'd be very disappointed. I'm sure
they can do better. I know they'd really love my 22 year old TV.

>
> > It will get your mind off of how much you lost
> > today feeding your sick habit.
>
> Hard to lose when when you don't gamble. Of course, I didn't win
> today either.

But the biggest problem of all? You couldn't get me or vp off your
mind.

No, I relaxed, watched bowling, golf and couple of movies. Did some
work around the house. It's really quite easy.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > > I have seen others try your system and post once or twice.
> > > > Interestingly, most get quiet very quickly.
> > >
> > > That's because people like you and other misleds intimidate
them
> > > either one-on-one or in a gang-up situation. These are real
> people
> > > who live honest lives and believe what they do and post is

all

> > about
> > > doing & saying the right things. They aren't some

degenerate,

low
> > > life, self-disrespecting gambling addicts....at least

anymore.

> Most
> > > of you misleds don't have respect for others because all you
have
> > on
> > > your minds are video poker and how much you want to just get

to

> the
> > > machines again. Not so with them.
> >
> > Of course not. They may gamble just as much and any APer but
> because
> > they are willing to suppress their brains, Robbie will gladly
> imbrace
> > them. LMAO.
>
> Nobody "gambles" (is that what you just said??) as much as the

AP's

Please provide one single little fact to back up this assertion.
Don't have any? Didn't think so.

Yeah here's one....again. You claim to play vp at least 3 hours a
day, and you seem particularly proud of such a sickness. You say
you're an 'AP'. Of all the thousands of vp players I've talked to,
only the so-called AP's play every day, hours a day, or hours upon
hours every time they play. The rest of the people are sane.

Having gambled in MN where AP is

pretty much unheard of, I can tell you that most players who show

up

all the time don't have a clue. Don't believe me. I'll meet you at
one of the casinos and take you around. Don't want to make the

long

trip? Then, let's meet at Sams' Town where the same TRUTH holds.
Short coiners galore, busy 9-5 DDB machines. Same players

regularly

all the while FP machines sit idle.

I have no disagreement with what you're trying to say--that locals
are found sitting at the machines all the time. To further enlighten
you here, you should know that almost every regular player--esp. at
Sam's Town--believes they are some sort of an AP. The same with the
Indian casinos, and even many on-line players. Listen to them and
most will gladly spew about how they have this or that advantage
today, and that's why they're playing. No one need be playing as you
would in order to say they're an advantage player.

> Correct. You have to feed you addiction first and foremost.

Haven't gambled either. Are you ever right?

Have I mentioned dicky the denyer lately?

> That's
> the most important part of your life now, isn't it. THEN you can
get
> to the 2nd most--making believe you 'belong' on the forums.

There's that jealousy again. It's a PUBLIC forum, however, it is
moderated to keep low life scum like little Robbie from destroying
it. This forum is a perfect example of what would happen if Robbie
was a allowed in.

More appropriately, I come on and get all kinds of argumentative,
sour, envious, and misspoken replies. I'm not banned from the forum--
you're always making that up too. I choose not to be on it with all
the chit-chat about people getting ripped off of 100 points, why the
nickel machines downtown had their pay tables lowered, the geeks
jerking each other off with one-upmanship, Jean Scott and her
absolutely shameless advertisements with every post, all the people
who blindly coo over being told where the FPDW machines are today,
and those few crazies who think it's important to announce to the
world about what the progressives are.

>
> > > Singer Lesson # 34,658 for you: NONE of the video poker

theory

> any
> > of
> > > the nerds come up with is in any way descriptive of how a

real

> game in the casino will work,
> >
> > Make that Singer Fraud # 34,658 and I'm with you. Once again

you

> > appear to be claiming the machines are not legal. My, my.
>
> Facts are facts.

Once again let's have the proof. None? Didn't think so.

You've got the facts. Not my problem you can't digest them.

> You wouldn't know about them because you would never
> WANT it to be true about the cycles. Tough love. Remember where

you

> heard it. And remember that no one said they were illegal.

That's

> your fantasy.

Please explain how they can be legal. Oh, that's right, your math
skills are a tad bit NONEXISTENT.

I told you I'd explain it all to you in person next month. I'm
guessing your attention-paying skills are a lot better than your
reading skills.

> >
> > > unless thru unusual coincidence. They (and
> > > you) only waste the time writing all that useless jargon up
> because
> > > it makes them feel like they're important
> >
> > Just the facts, as usual. Are you back to claiming that 1+1 is
not
> > equal to 2?
>
> No. I'm claiming that these nerds will go on and on about

useless

> information just to get each other off. You know what I mean,

don't

> you.

On, you mean like little Robbie and old cars. Yessiree, just like
that.

You didn't think before you said that, did you. Most 'real men' are
interested in older muscle cars and their restoration. Not you
perhaps, because as a certified nerd you believe that zipping &
unzipping a zipper offers just about all the excitement you can
handle.

> > > "COMPUTER GENERATED STRATEGY"? HAHAHA!! What a geek! A

computer

> is
> > a
> > > simple tool used in the development of parameters whatever

the

> > > interest is. It doesn't GENERATE strategy or anything else.
> >
> > I guess you've never used FVP or VPSM.
>
> Nope. Why waste the money and time?

> Little Robbie, the guru in his
> > own mind, has no idea that these programs actually generate
> > strategies. Idiotic isn't low enough to describe his VP
intellect.
> > However, it was kind of you to insert your foot into your

mouth

for
> > all to see. LMAO bigtime.
>
> HAHA! Now you change your wording since you've been caught in

yet

> another feel-good scenario of making it all up on the go.

Of course, little man. Just admit you are way over your head and
crawl back under that rock. Before you go, tell us again that
computer software, like FVP and VPSM, can't generate VP

strategies.

ROTFLMAO.

> Because you
> virtually admitted I'm right when I say the computers do
> not 'generate strategy' (it almost splits my side just SAYING
that!)
> you change it over to the 'programs' that 'generate strategy'.

The

> computers, as I've said, are simply a tool. It's really
embarrassing
> for me to be scolding a nerd on this, but so goes the truth.

Everyone already knows that computer hardware is only a hunk of

metal

without software. That is why term term "computer" is used to
incorporate both hardware and software. I really hope this is just
another lame attempt to save face and you really aren't this

ignorant.

After reading all that I have to re-assess my opinion of whether you
really are an educated geek or not! I've never seen a
supposed 'engineer' make such sloppy, compromiseable statements
anywhere!

>
> >
> > > I used it
> > > to help me create winning strategies--IT didn't generate

them

for
> > me!
> > > Do I have to educate you on EVERYTHING....even in your own
field!?
> >
> > Still chuckling. Are you for real?
>
> ....and in your own field. Shame on you!

Keep it up, I love it when you scramble around so much.

Then i'll stay right here to irritate you with the truth: Shame on
you!

> > Hmmm. "all pilots are capable of flying the plane" ... Does

that

> > include tug boat pilots.
>
> Just how lost are you here anyway?

Got you again. Now that you've been educated again you can thank

me

or more likely seeth in an envious rage and post more idiotic junk.

I'll just sit back and relax (and laugh) while I watch you waver
between airplanes and tugboats!! And all because you've lost track
of where you were with this!!!

>
> Now, let me educate you some more. Only the
> > people who have written or reviewed the code know "how a vp
machine
> > REALLY operates in Nv." You are absolutely clueless.
> >
> Exactly, and that's the only job my frend has. I know I know.

You

> just don't want it to be that I know someone in the business

that

you
> don't.

Sure Robbie. Tell us his name and credentials so it can be

verified.

What? You can't do that? Oh my, what a surprise.

Now I've got you interested....REALLY interested don't I. I'll let
you stew over it awhile, and I'm not at liberty to give his name out-
-part of my agreement. You'll just have to stew over it for the time
being....to MY DELIGHT!

> > > In any event, as long as they are still random
> > > > over time and return the required payback, IT DOESN'T

MATTER.

> > This
> > > > doesn't mean I believe you, it just doesn't matter.
> > >
> > > Talk about being tongue-twisted.... Let me know when you say
what
> > > you're trying to say. Until then understand this: I win so
often
> > > because I'm able to spot, after as little as 10 minutes of
> playing,
> > a
> > > machine's hot or cold cycle,
> >
> > Yup. Here's where the con man gets going. Of course, if anyone
> > actually had this ability then it wouldn't matter what

strategy

> they used now would it?
>
> Are you nuts? Don't answer that for your own sake! You wanna

lose

> $140 on dollar JB just to eventually hit a quad - assuming your
> machine DOES change over to a hot cycle -just to be down $15 on

the

> same denoimination? Try again.

Another surprise. The con continues.

And so does the denial.....

> >
> > > and that's another reason why you cannot
> > > figure out MATHEMATICALLY how I have such a great win

record. I

> > > change games, machines and denominations constantly. Ever
wonder
> > why?
> >
> > Nope ... but let me guess ... You're a moron?
>
> OK, so you're perplexed beyond what the pea brain can handle.

Don't

> feel bad--the less people that understand it the better. It

wouldn't make

> any difference to an 'AP" anyway. They're so stupid they'd just
play
> on and on regardless on the same machine anyway, because after a
> while all they want to do is teach the machine a lesson.

And continues. Notice that absolute absence of any facts. Typical

con

man approach ... First, you call established TRUTHs all wrong and
tell everyone they are being misled. Next you tell everyone that

YOU

and only YOU have the solution. Snake oil at its' finest.

You might as well admit you're just a tad bit more than intrigued
and want more answers that'll help you get out of your losing streak-
-even if it won't help your problem with gambling. Deny all you like-
-doesn't bother me! Disregard all the truth about it because you end
up in tilt mode when you run it thru your slide rule. I take more
and more Nv. money home all the time and that's what you're
interested in.

> > > > > The word 'random' in the regulation is
> > > > > adhered to and maintained nonetheless. If it's too
difficult
> > for
> > > > you
> > > > > to understand I'll explain it face-to-face with you next
> month.
> > > > > Engineers have no trouble understanding what this means,
but
> > you
> > > > > aren't one now, are you.
> > > >
> > > > Yes I am. I understand perfectly well what you are

claiming.

It
> > > > really makes little sense. Just being random will provide
> plenty
> > of
> > > > hot and cold cycles. I suspect you were simply asked to

quit

> > lying.
> > > > In any event, assume for a second that there really are

hot

and
> > > cold
> > > > cycles programmed in. Tell us how this effects HOW the

game

is
> > > played
> > > > out and the error rates of individuals playing? Even
switching
> > > > machines can't be the answer as you have no idea whether

the

> next
> > > > machine is in a hot or cold cycle or whether a machine is
about
> > to
> > > > switch cycles.
> > >
> > > First, today's machines have multiple programs within, by

the

> game,
> > > by denom, and by by a combination of both in some instances.
> >
> > They follow the requirements of the law. However, what you

need

to
> > understand is that these "multiple programs" may very well be
> nearly
> > exact copies of each other with the only difference being the

pay

> > table or dennom.
>
> "May very well be" is what you change in your mind to "Is".

Until

you
> get over that phobia you'll just keep arguing against reality.

It's common sense. IGT and other game providers are in business.

The

base cost of the machines is increased every time they have to put

in

additional programs. They will put in only what is required by law
and no more to increase their bottem line. It's all really very
simple, little man. That is, as long as you're not perpetrating a

con.

One thing you've clearly shown over the past 2 years is you have no
aptitude at all when it comes to 'business'. And oh, BTW, a 'con' is
when someone tries to get other people's money. You're just a teeny
weeny bit off on that path. Admit it little dicky!

> >
> > > Ever run
> > > across a DB 25c game with the final hand played also on the

$1

> > game?
> >
> > I don't switch denoms so I wouldn't know. However, it would

not

be
> > surprising for the last hand to appear the same independent of
> denom.
> > I suspect the law allows these games to use the same "last

hands"

> > buffer since that doesn't effect the game itself.
> >
> > > That's the norm, but if you know where to look there are

quite

a
> > few
> > > with their own denominational programs also.
> >
> > "denominational programs"? Would that be Methodist or Baptist?
>
> In my case, it's Catholic.
> >
> > > It doesn't take long
> > > to 'spot' a cycle. There are a few tricks I've learned and I
> won't
> > > release that info. I call that MY ADVANTAGE.
> >
> > The con continues.
>
> And the denial remains.

Yup. I tend to side with reason and fact.

Thank you once again! Now don't be fighting it any longer.

> >
> > > And BTW--I believe the
> > > engineer even if you refuse to believe me.
> >
> > And, even if he doesn't exist.
>
> He does. I wrote a public article about it in GT, and have it &

a

> video on the subject my site. GT verified the source before it

ran.

> As they always do.

Of course they did. Unverifiable statements are common tools of

the

average con man.

So the only 'verifiable' info in the world is that which little
dicky gets to see for himself. Introverted at its best. You're the
kind of person who never made it to management because you had to do
it all yourself. Here's a freebie for you: The worlds is a far
better place if you trust others to guide you now and then. And
since i'm so superior to you that might come in handy here.

> >
> > > He's a friend I made on an
> > > Air New Zealand 1st Class wine-tasting flight on the way

back

> from
> > > australia--where there are many vp machines everywhere. As

far

as
> > the
> > > details, I said I'll be glad to explain it to you in person
> because
> > > it would take too long to write.
> >
> > The final proof of the con. Do you really expect any

intelligent

> > person to believe this crap. Tell me what's in it for IGT? How
does
> > it improve their bottem line? Oh, and your previous comment
> > about "long cold and short hot cycles" WOULD make the machines
> > ILLEGAL. It would be impossible to pass the randomness tests.

Do

I
> > need to explain why?
>
> Ever been to Australia? Didn't think so. Ever been on a 1st

class

> over-the-ocean flight? Didn't think so.

Now tell us how this effects whether machnes have hot and cold
cycles. Can't? Didn't think so. Typical con man approach when

backed

up against a wall. Try and change the subject.

It's all in the same line of fire for you little
dicky.....humiliation on top of ridicule over and over again. If
someone told me as I graduated high school I'd be having this much
fun making fun of a nerd today, I'd have never believed them. Thank
you for being YOU!

> Now clear the jealousy and
> stick to the subject. I don't know and don't care about anyone
else's
> bottom line.

No, but IGT cares and would not risk their business for absolutely

no

purpose.

> My opinion is it doesn't change a thing, and that's
> because the interpretation of 'randomness' in the regulation is

not

> compromised.

Oh, but it would be unless the hot and cold cycles were EXACTLY

the

same duration. But, you stated the cold cycles were longer, didn't
you.

Nope. I stated that there are few hot and many cold cycles.

> I had to ask why not, and I'm 10 times smarter than you.
> That's why I said I'd explain it to you, because you'll never

get

it
> for years.

More con man BS. Only the con man has it all figured out. We've

seen

this all before in movies and TV shows, little man. LMAO.

> I can see you're curious and who wouldn't be that is
> hooked on the game. And it doesn't make anything ILLEGAL about

your

> beloved machines. Just remember this to help you keep your

sanity:

> The machines retain their random characteristics, they of course
pass
> all tests, and they are 100% legal because that's the only way
> they're manufactured to Nv. standards. And also remember this: I
> don't have to believe the guy and you don't either. That's why I
have
> spent extensive time comparing my true casino results with many
> similar trials at home on WinPoker, and for several years now

I've

> done FAR FAR better in the casinos than here. I'm buying it as

100%

> fact. If you want to smarten up then you will too.

Does it get any more obvious than this? Did you steal this script
from a TV show? Or Kevin Trudeau?

Denial at it's finest!
Who's Kevin trudeau?

> > Nope. Take 180 mile roundtrip to play a lower edge than is
> available
> > in LV. No thanks. The only reason I went there one time was to
meet
> > some friends and that's the only reason I'll go back.
>
> First let me guess--those friends were addicted to video poker.

They enjoy it, but they aren't APers. They gamble for fun only.

They

live in AZ and have many other interests.

> The
> plays at the Edgewater are all around 102% for the regular-

playing

> geeks among us.

So?

> And I know you fear that trip because you have to buy
> gasoline and it puts wear & tear on your vehicle--all expenses
> problem gamblers can't afford. But you do go there on occasion.
Admit
> it. Don't be shy.

I already did. Once since I moved to LV. Can't you read? Is that
alcohol affecting your brain again?

Deny deny deny.....

> > Now your claiming you sold 10,000 copies in a week. Chalk up
> another
> > lie.
>
> What week? So who sells 'millions of copies' weekly?? What'd you
do,
> just get off the toilet and lose your train of thought?

You seem to have forgotten the context where I used "10s of

copies".

Oh well, that's what happens when I have to deal with an

ignoramus.

Go back a few posts an feel like an idiot ... again.

If you won't clarify your statement that's what you get--people
playing with your simple mind.

> What's a dictionary?

That's right ... it's a place that contains facts. You wouldn't

know anything about one.

I though it was a book where you looked up the proper spelling of
words. Now I know your problem!

> > > > > Paint the pretty picture, continuously saying
> > > > > any 'wrong' is only what others are saddled with, and
making
> up
> > > > > excuses about your sickness as you go. If Mr. Spock came

by

> and
> > > did
> > > > > the Vulcan Mind thing with you, even HE'D go berserk at

the

> > > > conflict,
> > > > > corruption and self-denial that goes on within your

twisted

> > mind.
> > > >
> > > > Mr Spock, eh? Are you having trouble separating your
fantasies
> > from
> > > > reality?
> > >
> > > Left speechless on that one, hey? Very telling.....
> >
> > Interesting. I've noted a trend lately where Robbie starts

using

> the
> > phrases I use. It's pretty obvious that he has poor debating
skills
> > so I shouldn't be surprised to see him copy my style. I
> intentionally
> > started using the "very telling ..." phrase recently to see

what

> > would happend and wouldn't you know, Robbie copies it
immediately.
> > Very telling ...
>
> Looks like you've got an itch from me that you can't scratch!

To be perfectly honest, little Robbie has improved his style by
immitating me. Unfortunately, he still tries to argue with

assertions

and lies instead of facts. That will be his downfall forever.

....as I continue to climb on the video poker ladder of success,
popularity, and fame! Admit it--you're INSANELY JEALOUS!!

> >
> > > > > Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big

blows.

> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't know, tell us about it. You are the only addict
> > present
> > > in
> > > > this discussion. Oh, that's right, you RECOVERED from your
> > > addiction?
> > > > ROTFLMAO.
> > >
> > > You've been educated. Tnank me whenever. Until then, guess
who's
> in
> > > casinos daily vs. monthy?? But naturally, YOU DON'T GAMBLE!
> >
> > Denial again. So like you, Robbie.
>
> ???

It's English, try reading each word very slowly, then say them out
loud. Try that 3 or 4 times and maybe you can get it. Naaaaaahhhhh.

> > > >
> > > > Nope. I'd never use the words "only" and "all". Poor

Robbie

> still
> > > > can't get over HIS lifestyle when HE was addicted
> > >
> > > Oops! WHEN? I thought I still AM!!!
> >
> > My bad. I should have used present case. We all know recovery
from
> an
> > addiction is doable only by avoiding the source of the

addiction.

> > Right?
>
> One sign of a frustrated 'debater' is constant slip-ups. That's
you.

Avoiding the question, little man? Don't worry, everyone already
knows the answer. Avoidence is the ONLY cure.

Yes it is. That's why I'm not an addict fool like I used to be and
like you are today. I play only a few hours each week or month, and
how often do you say you play? Oh I get it--it's "neutral" because
you say so. OK, deny deny deny.

> > > > Funny, this Judge sounds exactly like little Robbie. Your
> problem
> > > is a real judge deals in facts. You'd lose everytime.
> > >
> > > All he'd have to do is stop for a moment, think of how

people

> like
> > > you've encouraged all the low lifes to come to town with wet
> dreams
> > > of getting some of the money,
> >
> > Lie. I've never "encouraged" anyone to come to LV.
>
> Sure you do. You make believe you win, you post you win, and the
low
> life penny-players over on vpFREE hear about it and want to be

like

> dicky, so they move their large poverty-filled families to LV

and

try
> to follow in your hollow footsteps.

Of course they do. Is this why you're so jealous? First, of all I
would hope anyone "following in my footsteps" would be listening

to

everything I've said. You know, the facts. While money can be

made,

it isn't much and who would come here for a measely $17K in an

entire

year. You really are grasping at straws.

Wrong again. To these people $17k is a lifetime of magic. You're so
far detached from reality that you're even talking yourself into a
corner when you actually believe what you say!

> > > and when they found out you lied to
> > > them with your scammy strategy, they turn to crime and begin

to

> > suck
> > > off of the local economy.
> >
> > I suspect there are a many low-lifes that have come to LV

hoping

to
> > get rich quick. Of course, none of them would be an APer since
you
> > can't get rich quick playing VP. So, trying to equate these
> scumbags
> > to VP players is about as ridiculous as most of the things you
say.
> > However, you are consistent, Robbie "ridiculous" Singer
>
> Mitigating your responsibility here isn't the answer, little

dicky.

> You part of the problem and you won't admit that either.

Just the facts, as usual. I see once again that you have nothing

to

refute my logical reply. This is getting way tooooooo easy.

Why, if you won't admit you have a problem, how in the world will
you ever CAUSE OTHERS problems with you make believe gambling
fantasy? That's why it's too easy.

> >
> > > I'd be a tad bit more concerned if I were
> > > you. While you're away in Minn. hiding from your fantasy

(and

> > > selling/downsizing the property to get more gambling cash

into

> your
> > > pocket like your hero from Indiana did) you have a good

chance

of
> a
> > > family of 14 Bangladesh cramming into your townhome. Stay up
> > tonight
> > > and think about it.
> >
> > I think they can find a more spacious place ... without a
security
> > system.
>
> You gorget. Almost every South/Central Asian who moves to LA/LV

has

a
> very well educated man at the helm,

Of course they do. So little time, so many worthless assertions.

Is

this why you changed jobs so often? You couldn't get way with

faking

it forever?

Changing jobs? Off track a little bit, which means you're getting
frustrated. OK. Here's a hint: Changing jobs = MORE MONEY! Every
time. You build up a reputation of the best and the others want you.
Too bad you never experienced that!

> and it's almost always in the
> sciences. Home security systems are of little deterrent for

these

> folks, and they can steal a new car in the blink of an eye if

they

> chose to.

If they break into my place they'd be very disappointed. I'm sure
they can do better. I know they'd really love my 22 year old TV.

To them, any of your junk is valuable.

> > > It will get your mind off of how much you lost
> > > today feeding your sick habit.
> >
> > Hard to lose when when you don't gamble. Of course, I didn't

win

> > today either.
>
> But the biggest problem of all? You couldn't get me or vp off

your

> mind.

No, I relaxed, watched bowling, golf and couple of movies. Did

some

work around the house. It's really quite easy.

What'd you have, sore balls from sitting on them in the casinos so
often?

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> >
> > Nobody "gambles" (is that what you just said??) as much as the
AP's
>
> Please provide one single little fact to back up this assertion.
> Don't have any? Didn't think so.

Yeah here's one....again. You claim to play vp at least 3 hours a
day, and you seem particularly proud of such a sickness.

Never said that. I average around 3 hours a day. Big difference.
Occasionally, I play more, sometimes not at all. So far this year 220
hours in around 80 days. 220/80 = 2.75/day. Compare that with a part
time job at 4-6 hours a day. The pay is probably equal or less, but
you have complete independence, no boss and a free lunch (whoever
said there was no such thing?).

You say
you're an 'AP'. Of all the thousands of vp players I've talked to,
only the so-called AP's play every day, hours a day, or hours upon
hours every time they play. The rest of the people are sane.

Interesting. You start with lie and then build a case on it. You are
so obvious. Add to that, we already know you don't talk to vp
players. That was obvious when you claimed you never heard anyone say
the machines were controlled externally. Let me know when you have
something intelligent to say.

Having gambled in MN where AP is
> pretty much unheard of, I can tell you that most players who show
up
> all the time don't have a clue. Don't believe me. I'll meet you

at

> one of the casinos and take you around. Don't want to make the
long
> trip? Then, let's meet at Sams' Town where the same TRUTH holds.
> Short coiners galore, busy 9-5 DDB machines. Same players
regularly
> all the while FP machines sit idle.

I have no disagreement with what you're trying to say--that locals
are found sitting at the machines all the time. To further

enlighten

you here, you should know that almost every regular player--esp. at
Sam's Town--believes they are some sort of an AP.

Of course you'd love that to be true. But then, how do you reconcile
that with them playing short coin? They are not APers. It appears to
me you don't even know what it takes to be an APer. All this rhetoric
blasting APers and you have no clue what an APer does. This is sweet.

The same with the
Indian casinos, and even many on-line players. Listen to them and
most will gladly spew about how they have this or that advantage
today, and that's why they're playing. No one need be playing as

you

would in order to say they're an advantage player.

Lot's of gamblers think they will win. Has nothing to do with being
an APer. An advantage player plays with an edge, PERIOD. Get with the
program.

>
> > Correct. You have to feed you addiction first and foremost.
>
> Haven't gambled either. Are you ever right?

Have I mentioned dicky the denyer lately?

Just the facts, as usual.

>
> > That's
> > the most important part of your life now, isn't it. THEN you

can

> get
> > to the 2nd most--making believe you 'belong' on the forums.
>
> There's that jealousy again. It's a PUBLIC forum, however, it is
> moderated to keep low life scum like little Robbie from

destroying

> it. This forum is a perfect example of what would happen if

Robbie

> was a allowed in.

More appropriately, I come on and get all kinds of argumentative,
sour, envious, and misspoken replies.

No, you get the facts thrown at you and then you start with the name
calling and monkey boy lies. We've seen it many times.

> > You wouldn't know about them because you would never
> > WANT it to be true about the cycles. Tough love. Remember where
you
> > heard it. And remember that no one said they were illegal.
That's
> > your fantasy.
>
> Please explain how they can be legal. Oh, that's right, your math
> skills are a tad bit NONEXISTENT.

I told you I'd explain it all to you in person next month. I'm
guessing your attention-paying skills are a lot better than your
reading skills.

You're coming to MN next month?

>
> > >
> > > > unless thru unusual coincidence. They (and
> > > > you) only waste the time writing all that useless jargon up
> > because
> > > > it makes them feel like they're important
> > >
> > > Just the facts, as usual. Are you back to claiming that 1+1

is

> not
> > > equal to 2?
> >
> > No. I'm claiming that these nerds will go on and on about
useless
> > information just to get each other off. You know what I mean,
don't
> > you.
>
> On, you mean like little Robbie and old cars. Yessiree, just like
> that.

You didn't think before you said that, did you. Most 'real men' are
interested in older muscle cars and their restoration.

LMAO. You think you're a "real man" because you play with old cars?
You really are messed up. However, you entirely missed the point
which is getting to be a common occurrence. Everyone has their
interests and personally I think yours is pretty boring.

> > > > "COMPUTER GENERATED STRATEGY"? HAHAHA!! What a geek! A
computer
> > is
> > > a
> > > > simple tool used in the development of parameters whatever
the
> > > > interest is. It doesn't GENERATE strategy or anything else.
> > >
> > > I guess you've never used FVP or VPSM.
> >
> > Nope. Why waste the money and time?

> > Little Robbie, the guru in his
> > > own mind, has no idea that these programs actually generate
> > > strategies. Idiotic isn't low enough to describe his VP
> intellect.
> > > However, it was kind of you to insert your foot into your
mouth
> for
> > > all to see. LMAO bigtime.
> >
> > HAHA! Now you change your wording since you've been caught in
yet
> > another feel-good scenario of making it all up on the go.
>
> Of course, little man. Just admit you are way over your head and
> crawl back under that rock. Before you go, tell us again that
> computer software, like FVP and VPSM, can't generate VP
strategies.
> ROTFLMAO.
>
> > Because you
> > virtually admitted I'm right when I say the computers do
> > not 'generate strategy' (it almost splits my side just SAYING
> that!)
> > you change it over to the 'programs' that 'generate strategy'.
The
> > computers, as I've said, are simply a tool. It's really
> embarrassing
> > for me to be scolding a nerd on this, but so goes the truth.
>
> Everyone already knows that computer hardware is only a hunk of
metal
> without software. That is why term term "computer" is used to
> incorporate both hardware and software. I really hope this is

just

> another lame attempt to save face and you really aren't this
ignorant.

After reading all that I have to re-assess my opinion of whether

you

really are an educated geek or not! I've never seen a
supposed 'engineer' make such sloppy, compromiseable statements
anywhere!

Nice try, but it's completely obvious to everyone that you are
looking like a complete fool. But, hey, keep it up for as long as you
want.

>
> >
> > >
> > > > I used it
> > > > to help me create winning strategies--IT didn't generate
them
> for
> > > me!
> > > > Do I have to educate you on EVERYTHING....even in your own
> field!?
> > >
> > > Still chuckling. Are you for real?
> >
> > ....and in your own field. Shame on you!
>
> Keep it up, I love it when you scramble around so much.

Then i'll stay right here to irritate you with the truth: Shame on
you!

The TRUTH is that the majority of people who read this forum already
know all about FVP or VPSM. They already know about computer
generated strategies. So, let's hear you deny they exist again. Only
little Robbie could make my point, that he is a Liar And Fraud, so
PERFECTLY.

>
> > > Hmmm. "all pilots are capable of flying the plane" ... Does
that
> > > include tug boat pilots.
> >
> > Just how lost are you here anyway?
>
> Got you again. Now that you've been educated again you can thank
me
> or more likely seeth in an envious rage and post more idiotic

junk.

I'll just sit back and relax (and laugh) while I watch you waver
between airplanes and tugboats!! And all because you've lost track
of where you were with this!!!

You said ANY pilot could fly a plane. Please, tell me again that a
tug boat pilot could fly a fighter jet. Now, to get back to POINT.
Clearly, using terms like ALL and ONLY almost never apply. Of course,
that will cut your vocabulary down quite a bit.

>
> >
> > Now, let me educate you some more. Only the
> > > people who have written or reviewed the code know "how a vp
> machine
> > > REALLY operates in Nv." You are absolutely clueless.
> > >
> > Exactly, and that's the only job my frend has. I know I know.
You
> > just don't want it to be that I know someone in the business
that
> you
> > don't.
>
> Sure Robbie. Tell us his name and credentials so it can be
verified.
> What? You can't do that? Oh my, what a surprise.

Now I've got you interested....REALLY interested don't I. I'll let
you stew over it awhile, and I'm not at liberty to give his name

out-

-part of my agreement. You'll just have to stew over it for the

time

being....to MY DELIGHT!

The con mans predictable response. Need I say more?

>
> > > > In any event, as long as they are still random
> > > > > over time and return the required payback, IT DOESN'T
MATTER.
> > > This
> > > > > doesn't mean I believe you, it just doesn't matter.
> > > >
> > > > Talk about being tongue-twisted.... Let me know when you

say

> what
> > > > you're trying to say. Until then understand this: I win so
> often
> > > > because I'm able to spot, after as little as 10 minutes of
> > playing,
> > > a
> > > > machine's hot or cold cycle,
> > >
> > > Yup. Here's where the con man gets going. Of course, if

anyone

> > > actually had this ability then it wouldn't matter what
strategy
> > they used now would it?
> >
> > Are you nuts? Don't answer that for your own sake! You wanna
lose
> > $140 on dollar JB just to eventually hit a quad - assuming your
> > machine DOES change over to a hot cycle -just to be down $15 on
the
> > same denoimination? Try again.
>
> Another surprise. The con continues.
>
And so does the denial.....

And continues. Anyone seen a single supportable fact? That's exactly
how the con man operates. He assumes greed will make you believe his
lies. Sorry, Robbie my boy, but you've been exposed.

> > >
> > > > and that's another reason why you cannot
> > > > figure out MATHEMATICALLY how I have such a great win
record. I
> > > > change games, machines and denominations constantly. Ever
> wonder
> > > why?
> > >
> > > Nope ... but let me guess ... You're a moron?
> >
> > OK, so you're perplexed beyond what the pea brain can handle.
Don't
> > feel bad--the less people that understand it the better. It
wouldn't make
> > any difference to an 'AP" anyway. They're so stupid they'd just
> play
> > on and on regardless on the same machine anyway, because after

a

> > while all they want to do is teach the machine a lesson.
>
> And continues. Notice that absolute absence of any facts. Typical
con
> man approach ... First, you call established TRUTHs all wrong

and

> tell everyone they are being misled. Next you tell everyone that
YOU
> and only YOU have the solution. Snake oil at its' finest.

You might as well admit you're just a tad bit more than intrigued

No, I know a con when I see one. Now, everyone else does too.

and want more answers that'll help you get out of your losing

streak-

-even if it won't help your problem with gambling. Deny all you

like-

-doesn't bother me! Disregard all the truth about it because you

end

up in tilt mode when you run it thru your slide rule. I take more
and more Nv. money home all the time and that's what you're
interested in.

It appears the con man gets a little aggitated when he's been
exposed. He always starts babbling.

> > > > > > The word 'random' in the regulation is
> > > > > > adhered to and maintained nonetheless. If it's too
> difficult
> > > for
> > > > > you
> > > > > > to understand I'll explain it face-to-face with you

next

> > month.
> > > > > > Engineers have no trouble understanding what this

means,

> but
> > > you
> > > > > > aren't one now, are you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes I am. I understand perfectly well what you are
claiming.
> It
> > > > > really makes little sense. Just being random will provide
> > plenty
> > > of
> > > > > hot and cold cycles. I suspect you were simply asked to
quit
> > > lying.
> > > > > In any event, assume for a second that there really are
hot
> and
> > > > cold
> > > > > cycles programmed in. Tell us how this effects HOW the
game
> is
> > > > played
> > > > > out and the error rates of individuals playing? Even
> switching
> > > > > machines can't be the answer as you have no idea whether
the
> > next
> > > > > machine is in a hot or cold cycle or whether a machine is
> about
> > > to
> > > > > switch cycles.
> > > >
> > > > First, today's machines have multiple programs within, by
the
> > game,
> > > > by denom, and by by a combination of both in some

instances.

> > >
> > > They follow the requirements of the law. However, what you
need
> to
> > > understand is that these "multiple programs" may very well be
> > nearly
> > > exact copies of each other with the only difference being the
pay
> > > table or dennom.
> >
> > "May very well be" is what you change in your mind to "Is".
Until
> you
> > get over that phobia you'll just keep arguing against reality.
>
> It's common sense. IGT and other game providers are in business.
The
> base cost of the machines is increased every time they have to

put

in
> additional programs. They will put in only what is required by

law

> and no more to increase their bottem line. It's all really very
> simple, little man. That is, as long as you're not perpetrating a
con.

One thing you've clearly shown over the past 2 years is you have no
aptitude at all when it comes to 'business'.

I think most people understand the concept of keeping down costs to
increase profitability. Did you miss that class getting your MBA?

And oh, BTW, a 'con' is
when someone tries to get other people's money. You're just a teeny
weeny bit off on that path. Admit it little dicky!

I'm right on target. Only your primary goal is to build up your ego
and make everyone believe you're some kind of guru. You also think it
will lead to big money eventually.

>
> > >
> > > > Ever run
> > > > across a DB 25c game with the final hand played also on the
$1
> > > game?
> > >
> > > I don't switch denoms so I wouldn't know. However, it would
not
> be
> > > surprising for the last hand to appear the same independent

of

> > denom.
> > > I suspect the law allows these games to use the same "last
hands"
> > > buffer since that doesn't effect the game itself.
> > >
> > > > That's the norm, but if you know where to look there are
quite
> a
> > > few
> > > > with their own denominational programs also.
> > >
> > > "denominational programs"? Would that be Methodist or Baptist?
> >
> > In my case, it's Catholic.
> > >
> > > > It doesn't take long
> > > > to 'spot' a cycle. There are a few tricks I've learned and

I

> > won't
> > > > release that info. I call that MY ADVANTAGE.
> > >
> > > The con continues.
> >
> > And the denial remains.
>
> Yup. I tend to side with reason and fact.

Thank you once again!

For denying your statement? You're very welcome.

>
> > >
> > > > And BTW--I believe the
> > > > engineer even if you refuse to believe me.
> > >
> > > And, even if he doesn't exist.
> >
> > He does. I wrote a public article about it in GT, and have it &
a
> > video on the subject my site. GT verified the source before it
ran.
> > As they always do.
>
> Of course they did. Unverifiable statements are common tools of
the
> average con man.

So the only 'verifiable' info in the world is that which little
dicky gets to see for himself.

Give up the con, little man. You've been exposed. You're now way past
the point where anyone will do anything but laugh at these bluffs. Of
course, if you like people laugthing AT you, please keep it up.

Introverted at its best. You're the
kind of person who never made it to management because you had to

do

it all yourself. Here's a freebie for you: The worlds is a far
better place if you trust others to guide you now and then. And
since i'm so superior to you that might come in handy here.

The monkey boy returns. Anyone surprised? Nope.

>
> > >
> > > > He's a friend I made on an
> > > > Air New Zealand 1st Class wine-tasting flight on the way
back
> > from
> > > > australia--where there are many vp machines everywhere. As
far
> as
> > > the
> > > > details, I said I'll be glad to explain it to you in person
> > because
> > > > it would take too long to write.
> > >
> > > The final proof of the con. Do you really expect any
intelligent
> > > person to believe this crap. Tell me what's in it for IGT?

How

> does
> > > it improve their bottem line? Oh, and your previous comment
> > > about "long cold and short hot cycles" WOULD make the

machines

> > > ILLEGAL. It would be impossible to pass the randomness tests.
Do
> I
> > > need to explain why?
> >
> > Ever been to Australia? Didn't think so. Ever been on a 1st
class
> > over-the-ocean flight? Didn't think so.
>
> Now tell us how this effects whether machnes have hot and cold
> cycles. Can't? Didn't think so. Typical con man approach when
backed
> up against a wall. Try and change the subject.

It's all in the same line of fire for you little
dicky.....humiliation on top of ridicule over and over again. If
someone told me as I graduated high school I'd be having this much
fun making fun of a nerd today, I'd have never believed them. Thank
you for being YOU!

ROTF again. Robbie has nothing but his standard babbling to defend
himself and his ridiculous con. As an exposed con man, little Robbie,
be honest, tell us how it feels.

>
> > Now clear the jealousy and
> > stick to the subject. I don't know and don't care about anyone
> else's
> > bottom line.
>
> No, but IGT cares and would not risk their business for

absolutely

no
> purpose.

I see Robbie quit trying to defend his idiotic position. First smart
thing he did in a long time.

>
> > My opinion is it doesn't change a thing, and that's
> > because the interpretation of 'randomness' in the regulation is
not
> > compromised.
>
> Oh, but it would be unless the hot and cold cycles were EXACTLY
the
> same duration. But, you stated the cold cycles were longer,

didn't

> you.

Nope. I stated that there are few hot and many cold cycles.

Sorry, moron, but that's the same thing. Explain how a machine can
have many cold cycles, only a few hot cycles and not be cold longer.
If you say the hot cycles are longer, then where do you fit in all
those cold cycles. And, if you try to say that the cold cycles are
consectutive, then that's the same as a long cold cycle. Robbie,
you've been exposed AGAIN.

>
> > I had to ask why not, and I'm 10 times smarter than you.
> > That's why I said I'd explain it to you, because you'll never
get
> it
> > for years.
>
> More con man BS. Only the con man has it all figured out. We've
seen
> this all before in movies and TV shows, little man. LMAO.
>

I think our con mans' "you know what" is starting to shrivel up.

> > I can see you're curious and who wouldn't be that is
> > hooked on the game. And it doesn't make anything ILLEGAL about
your
> > beloved machines. Just remember this to help you keep your
sanity:
> > The machines retain their random characteristics, they of

course

> pass
> > all tests, and they are 100% legal because that's the only way
> > they're manufactured to Nv. standards. And also remember this:

I

> > don't have to believe the guy and you don't either. That's why

I

> have
> > spent extensive time comparing my true casino results with many
> > similar trials at home on WinPoker, and for several years now
I've
> > done FAR FAR better in the casinos than here. I'm buying it as
100%
> > fact. If you want to smarten up then you will too.
>
> Does it get any more obvious than this? Did you steal this script
> from a TV show? Or Kevin Trudeau?

Denial at it's finest!
Who's Kevin trudeau?

Another con man. I already told you this twice before.

>
> > > Nope. Take 180 mile roundtrip to play a lower edge than is
> > available
> > > in LV. No thanks. The only reason I went there one time was

to

> meet
> > > some friends and that's the only reason I'll go back.
> >
> > First let me guess--those friends were addicted to video poker.
>
> They enjoy it, but they aren't APers. They gamble for fun only.
They
> live in AZ and have many other interests.
>
> > The
> > plays at the Edgewater are all around 102% for the regular-
playing
> > geeks among us.
>
> So?
>
> > And I know you fear that trip because you have to buy
> > gasoline and it puts wear & tear on your vehicle--all expenses
> > problem gamblers can't afford. But you do go there on occasion.
> Admit
> > it. Don't be shy.
>
> I already did. Once since I moved to LV. Can't you read? Is that
> alcohol affecting your brain again?

Deny deny deny.....

You got it figured out yet? I will deny all of your lies. Maybe a
little less alcohol would allow that FACT to slip into the few brain
cells you have left around.

>
> > > Now your claiming you sold 10,000 copies in a week. Chalk up
> > another
> > > lie.
> >
> > What week? So who sells 'millions of copies' weekly?? What'd

you

> do,
> > just get off the toilet and lose your train of thought?
>
> You seem to have forgotten the context where I used "10s of
copies".
> Oh well, that's what happens when I have to deal with an
ignoramus.
> Go back a few posts an feel like an idiot ... again.

If you won't clarify your statement that's what you get--people
playing with your simple mind.
>
> > What's a dictionary?
>
> That's right ... it's a place that contains facts. You wouldn't
know anything about one.

I though it was a book where you looked up the proper spelling of
words.

Just as I suspected.

>
> > > > > > Paint the pretty picture, continuously saying
> > > > > > any 'wrong' is only what others are saddled with, and
> making
> > up
> > > > > > excuses about your sickness as you go. If Mr. Spock

came

by
> > and
> > > > did
> > > > > > the Vulcan Mind thing with you, even HE'D go berserk at
the
> > > > > conflict,
> > > > > > corruption and self-denial that goes on within your
twisted
> > > mind.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr Spock, eh? Are you having trouble separating your
> fantasies
> > > from
> > > > > reality?
> > > >
> > > > Left speechless on that one, hey? Very telling.....
> > >
> > > Interesting. I've noted a trend lately where Robbie starts
using
> > the
> > > phrases I use. It's pretty obvious that he has poor debating
> skills
> > > so I shouldn't be surprised to see him copy my style. I
> > intentionally
> > > started using the "very telling ..." phrase recently to see
what
> > > would happend and wouldn't you know, Robbie copies it
> immediately.
> > > Very telling ...
> >
> > Looks like you've got an itch from me that you can't scratch!
>
> To be perfectly honest, little Robbie has improved his style by
> immitating me. Unfortunately, he still tries to argue with
assertions
> and lies instead of facts. That will be his downfall forever.

....as I continue to climb on the video poker ladder of success,
popularity, and fame! Admit it--you're INSANELY JEALOUS!!

Nope. Just pleased to have exposed you so completely and so obviously
that your only defense is idiotic monkey boy rhetoric.

>
> > >
> > > > > > Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big
blows.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wouldn't know, tell us about it. You are the only

addict

> > > present
> > > > in
> > > > > this discussion. Oh, that's right, you RECOVERED from

your

> > > > addiction?
> > > > > ROTFLMAO.
> > > >
> > > > You've been educated. Tnank me whenever. Until then, guess
> who's
> > in
> > > > casinos daily vs. monthy?? But naturally, YOU DON'T GAMBLE!
> > >
> > > Denial again. So like you, Robbie.
> >
> > ???
>
> It's English, try reading each word very slowly, then say them

out

> loud. Try that 3 or 4 times and maybe you can get it.

Naaaaaahhhhh.

The truth shuts little Robbie up ONE MORE TIME.

>
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope. I'd never use the words "only" and "all". Poor
Robbie
> > still
> > > > > can't get over HIS lifestyle when HE was addicted
> > > >
> > > > Oops! WHEN? I thought I still AM!!!
> > >
> > > My bad. I should have used present case. We all know recovery
> from
> > an
> > > addiction is doable only by avoiding the source of the
addiction.
> > > Right?
> >
> > One sign of a frustrated 'debater' is constant slip-ups. That's
> you.
>
> Avoiding the question, little man? Don't worry, everyone already
> knows the answer. Avoidence is the ONLY cure.

Yes it is. That's why I'm not an addict fool like I used to be and
like you are today. I play only a few hours each week or month, and
how often do you say you play? Oh I get it--it's "neutral" because
you say so. OK, deny deny deny.

Did everyone notice how quickly Robbie slipped past the word AVOID? I
sure did. Of course, he's not fooling anyone here.

>
> > > > > Funny, this Judge sounds exactly like little Robbie. Your
> > problem
> > > > is a real judge deals in facts. You'd lose everytime.
> > > >
> > > > All he'd have to do is stop for a moment, think of how
people
> > like
> > > > you've encouraged all the low lifes to come to town with

wet

> > dreams
> > > > of getting some of the money,
> > >
> > > Lie. I've never "encouraged" anyone to come to LV.
> >
> > Sure you do. You make believe you win, you post you win, and

the

> low
> > life penny-players over on vpFREE hear about it and want to be
like
> > dicky, so they move their large poverty-filled families to LV
and
> try
> > to follow in your hollow footsteps.
>
> Of course they do. Is this why you're so jealous? First, of all I
> would hope anyone "following in my footsteps" would be listening
to
> everything I've said. You know, the facts. While money can be
made,
> it isn't much and who would come here for a measely $17K in an
entire
> year. You really are grasping at straws.

Wrong again. To these people $17k is a lifetime of magic.

Of course it is Robbie. Do you even have any clue how you look when
you grasp at straws?

> > > > I'd be a tad bit more concerned if I were
> > > > you. While you're away in Minn. hiding from your fantasy
(and
> > > > selling/downsizing the property to get more gambling cash
into
> > your
> > > > pocket like your hero from Indiana did) you have a good
chance
> of
> > a
> > > > family of 14 Bangladesh cramming into your townhome. Stay

up

> > > tonight
> > > > and think about it.
> > >
> > > I think they can find a more spacious place ... without a
> security
> > > system.
> >
> > You gorget. Almost every South/Central Asian who moves to LA/LV
has
> a
> > very well educated man at the helm,
>
> Of course they do. So little time, so many worthless assertions.
Is
> this why you changed jobs so often? You couldn't get way with
faking
> it forever?

Changing jobs? Off track a little bit, which means you're getting
frustrated. OK. Here's a hint: Changing jobs = MORE MONEY! Every
time. You build up a reputation of the best and the others want

you.

Of course they did.

> > and it's almost always in the
> > sciences. Home security systems are of little deterrent for
these
> > folks, and they can steal a new car in the blink of an eye if
they
> > chose to.
>
> If they break into my place they'd be very disappointed. I'm sure
> they can do better. I know they'd really love my 22 year old TV.

To them, any of your junk is valuable.

They can have it. It's insured.

> > > > It will get your mind off of how much you lost
> > > > today feeding your sick habit.
> > >
> > > Hard to lose when when you don't gamble. Of course, I didn't
win
> > > today either.
> >
> > But the biggest problem of all? You couldn't get me or vp off
your
> > mind.
>
> No, I relaxed, watched bowling, golf and couple of movies. Did
some
> work around the house. It's really quite easy.

What'd you have, sore balls from sitting on them in the casinos so
often?

Sorry, I haven't been in a casino in over a week. Always blows your
little mind. But fret not, I'll be there tomorrow.

> > > Nobody "gambles" (is that what you just said??) as much as

the

> AP's
> >
> > Please provide one single little fact to back up this

assertion.

> > Don't have any? Didn't think so.
>
> Yeah here's one....again. You claim to play vp at least 3 hours a
> day, and you seem particularly proud of such a sickness.

Never said that. I average around 3 hours a day. Big difference.

Yup, BIG difference!

Occasionally, I play more, sometimes not at all. So far this year

220

hours in around 80 days. 220/80 = 2.75/day. Compare that with a

part

time job at 4-6 hours a day. The pay is probably equal or less, but
you have complete independence, no boss and a free lunch (whoever
said there was no such thing?).

That's where the 'sickness' part comes in. Rationalizing a problem
into it being something better than anyone else does. Twisting the
meaning of normal people's activity into the toilet. Glamorizing
addiction as if it were something to be proud of.

> You say
> you're an 'AP'. Of all the thousands of vp players I've talked

to,

> only the so-called AP's play every day, hours a day, or hours

upon

> hours every time they play. The rest of the people are sane.

Interesting. You start with lie and then build a case on it.

OH? So now you're not one of those 'AP's"?

You are

so obvious. Add to that, we already know you don't talk to vp
players. That was obvious when you claimed you never heard anyone

say

the machines were controlled externally. Let me know when you have
something intelligent to say.

I think you've already successfully solidified you're mixed-up
position here. Try again.

>
> Having gambled in MN where AP is
> > pretty much unheard of, I can tell you that most players who

show

> up
> > all the time don't have a clue. Don't believe me. I'll meet you
at
> > one of the casinos and take you around. Don't want to make the
> long
> > trip? Then, let's meet at Sams' Town where the same TRUTH

holds.

> > Short coiners galore, busy 9-5 DDB machines. Same players
> regularly
> > all the while FP machines sit idle.
>
> I have no disagreement with what you're trying to say--that

locals

> are found sitting at the machines all the time. To further
enlighten
> you here, you should know that almost every regular player--esp.

at

> Sam's Town--believes they are some sort of an AP.

Of course you'd love that to be true. But then, how do you

reconcile

that with them playing short coin? They are not APers. It appears

to

me you don't even know what it takes to be an APer. All this

rhetoric

blasting APers and you have no clue what an APer does. This is

sweet.

You don't need to play full-coin to believe you're an AP. That's
where the geeks get lost in the discussions--esp. on vpFREE. Since no
player has any advantage over ANY casino when they play -barring
extreme mistakes by the casino - and anyone can win at any time on
any machine, the advantage goes to whomever wins and leaves with his
or her winnings. It is so simple to comprehend, yet you cling to your
long-term theories and math models as if they were comfort blankies
that won't ever wear out--regardless if they help you sleep or not.

> The same with the
> Indian casinos, and even many on-line players. Listen to them and
> most will gladly spew about how they have this or that advantage
> today, and that's why they're playing. No one need be playing as
you
> would in order to say they're an advantage player.

Lot's of gamblers think they will win. Has nothing to do with being
an APer. An advantage player plays with an edge, PERIOD. Get with

the

program.

Still stuck on that nonsense I see. Even me, with my continuous and
comparative very large win rates....I do not walk in with any
advantage, yet I almost always end up with the advantage by the time
I leave--which is the ONLY measure of whether or not one has played
with a true advantage.

> > > That's
> > > the most important part of your life now, isn't it. THEN you
can
> > get
> > > to the 2nd most--making believe you 'belong' on the forums.
> >
> > There's that jealousy again. It's a PUBLIC forum, however, it

is

> > moderated to keep low life scum like little Robbie from
destroying
> > it. This forum is a perfect example of what would happen if
Robbie
> > was a allowed in.
>
> More appropriately, I come on and get all kinds of argumentative,
> sour, envious, and misspoken replies.

No, you get the facts thrown at you and then you start with the

name

calling and monkey boy lies. We've seen it many times.

More appropriately, the dreams and theories spew, and I set them
straight and am the spokesman for thousands who read vpFREE but never
post because they're getting my e-newsletters and agree with me 100%.
The name-calling is something the geeks can't help, and I even win
that battle too!

> > > You wouldn't know about them because you would never
> > > WANT it to be true about the cycles. Tough love. Remember

where

> you
> > > heard it. And remember that no one said they were illegal.
> That's
> > > your fantasy.
> >
> > Please explain how they can be legal. Oh, that's right, your

math

> > skills are a tad bit NONEXISTENT.
>
> I told you I'd explain it all to you in person next month. I'm
> guessing your attention-paying skills are a lot better than your
> reading skills.

You're coming to MN next month?

No, then perhaps not next week. I've never enjoyed trips up there.
The people talk funny, and other than Kevin McHale, there's not a lot
of important enough people in Minn. to make me want to go back. But
I'm sure you're piqued enough and will miss LV enough to take a few
winter trips. You've got an excuse now--isn't that why you got a 2nd
home there?

> > > No. I'm claiming that these nerds will go on and on about
> useless
> > > information just to get each other off. You know what I mean,
> don't
> > > you.
> >
> > On, you mean like little Robbie and old cars. Yessiree, just

like

> > that.
>
> You didn't think before you said that, did you. Most 'real men'

are

> interested in older muscle cars and their restoration.

LMAO. You think you're a "real man" because you play with old cars?
You really are messed up.

"Play" with old cars?? See what you've missed out in life?

However, you entirely missed the point

which is getting to be a common occurrence. Everyone has their
interests and personally I think yours is pretty boring.

Thus the reference to 'real men'.

The TRUTH is that the majority of people who read this forum

already

know all about FVP or VPSM. They already know about computer
generated strategies. So, let's hear you deny they exist again.

Only

little Robbie could make my point, that he is a Liar And Fraud, so
PERFECTLY.

So what else is new? This'll really irk you. Did you know that Jim
Wolf went to GBC and asked permission to talk to me about my
endorsing FVP BEFORE he went to your hero the Queen? When I politely
turned him down he went down the chain. I had no reason to seek money
from the sale of a vp product, but any of your hero gurus did and do.
And why you call it 'generating strategy' one will never know.
Gargabe in/garbage out I believe is the more commonly held term.

> I'll just sit back and relax (and laugh) while I watch you waver

> between airplanes and tugboats!! And all because you've lost

track

> of where you were with this!!!

You said ANY pilot could fly a plane. Please, tell me again that a
tug boat pilot could fly a fighter jet.

First, unless you supply specifics about whom you're talking about,
you can't simply dismiss a tugboat operator as being able to also fly
a plane--any of them. Now I feel like the geek.

Now, to get back to POINT.

Clearly, using terms like ALL and ONLY almost never apply. Of

course,

that will cut your vocabulary down quite a bit.

Now you're getting the picture.

> > > Now, let me educate you some more. Only the
> > > > people who have written or reviewed the code know "how a vp
> > machine
> > > > REALLY operates in Nv." You are absolutely clueless.
> > > >
> > > Exactly, and that's the only job my frend has. I know I know.
> You
> > > just don't want it to be that I know someone in the business
> that
> > you
> > > don't.
> >
> > Sure Robbie. Tell us his name and credentials so it can be
> verified.
> > What? You can't do that? Oh my, what a surprise.
>
> Now I've got you interested....REALLY interested don't I. I'll

let

> you stew over it awhile, and I'm not at liberty to give his name
out-
> -part of my agreement. You'll just have to stew over it for the
time
> being....to MY DELIGHT!

The con mans predictable response. Need I say more?

Just suck it up and stay awake over it. You face the machines almost
every day, and you'll forever be challenged by this truth.

No, I know a con when I see one. Now, everyone else does too.

> and want more answers that'll help you get out of your losing
streak-
> -even if it won't help your problem with gambling. Deny all you
like-
> -doesn't bother me! Disregard all the truth about it because you
end
> up in tilt mode when you run it thru your slide rule. I take more
> and more Nv. money home all the time and that's what you're
> interested in.

It appears the con man gets a little aggitated when he's been
exposed. He always starts babbling.

I thought I educated you on what a 'con' is. You, on the other hand,
are at a loss for adequate wording, so you for some reason make
believe (again!) that I'm taking money from somewhere as I 'sell'
this concept of hot & cold cycles. It's clearly a function of you
never having gotten out more. I'll bet no one's ever even tickled
your feet!

> > It's common sense. IGT and other game providers are in

business.

> The
> > base cost of the machines is increased every time they have to
put
> in
> > additional programs. They will put in only what is required by
law
> > and no more to increase their bottem line. It's all really very
> > simple, little man. That is, as long as you're not perpetrating

a

> con.
>
> One thing you've clearly shown over the past 2 years is you have

no

> aptitude at all when it comes to 'business'.

I think most people understand the concept of keeping down costs to
increase profitability. Did you miss that class getting your MBA?

You must be the only dipstick alive who believes adding options to
something already successful won't generate even more revenue.

> And oh, BTW, a 'con' is
> when someone tries to get other people's money. You're just a

teeny

> weeny bit off on that path. Admit it little dicky!

I'm right on target. Only your primary goal is to build up your ego
and make everyone believe you're some kind of guru. You also think

it will lead to big money eventually.

That's a tongue-twister if I've ever seen one! Stopped cold, you make
a 360 and say the 'con' is to build some sort of ego!! HAHA! Now
THERE's positive EV without the pahntom bucks!

GT verified the source before it ran. As they always do.
> >
> > Of course they did. Unverifiable statements are common tools of
> the
> > average con man.
>
> So the only 'verifiable' info in the world is that which little
> dicky gets to see for himself.

Give up the con, little man. You've been exposed. You're now way

past

the point where anyone will do anything but laugh at these bluffs.

Of

course, if you like people laugthing AT you, please keep it up.

So you have no answer to that? Big Surprise! It must be a joy waking
up next to you in the morning. What you say goes, and anything else
walks. Maybe that's why you remain an introvert--you feel some type
of control if only over your missus. But here you're trapped--in the
real world little dicky. And I LOVE it!!

> Introverted at its best. You're the
> kind of person who never made it to management because you had to
do
> it all yourself. Here's a freebie for you: The worlds is a far
> better place if you trust others to guide you now and then. And
> since i'm so superior to you that might come in handy here.

The monkey boy returns. Anyone surprised? Nope.

You're reacting as if I just spanked you! I guess I did!!

> > > > The final proof of the con. Do you really expect any
> intelligent
> > > > person to believe this crap. Tell me what's in it for IGT?
How
> > does
> > > > it improve their bottem line? Oh, and your previous comment
> > > > about "long cold and short hot cycles" WOULD make the
machines
> > > > ILLEGAL. It would be impossible to pass the randomness

tests.

> Do
> > I
> > > > need to explain why?
> > >
> > > Ever been to Australia? Didn't think so. Ever been on a 1st
> class
> > > over-the-ocean flight? Didn't think so.
> >
> > Now tell us how this effects whether machnes have hot and cold
> > cycles. Can't? Didn't think so. Typical con man approach when
> backed
> > up against a wall. Try and change the subject.
>
> It's all in the same line of fire for you little
> dicky.....humiliation on top of ridicule over and over again. If
> someone told me as I graduated high school I'd be having this

much

> fun making fun of a nerd today, I'd have never believed them.

Thank

> you for being YOU!

ROTF again. Robbie has nothing but his standard babbling to defend
himself and his ridiculous con. As an exposed con man, little

Robbie,

be honest, tell us how it feels.

I think you like being made a fool over over and over again.

> >
> > > Now clear the jealousy and
> > > stick to the subject. I don't know and don't care about

anyone

> > else's
> > > bottom line.
> >
> > No, but IGT cares and would not risk their business for
absolutely no purpose.

There's where your obvious lack of good business practices shows up.

> > > My opinion is it doesn't change a thing, and that's
> > > because the interpretation of 'randomness' in the regulation

is not compromised.

> >
> > Oh, but it would be unless the hot and cold cycles were EXACTLY
> the
> > same duration. But, you stated the cold cycles were longer,
didn't
> > you.
>
> Nope. I stated that there are few hot and many cold cycles.

Sorry, moron, but that's the same thing. Explain how a machine can
have many cold cycles, only a few hot cycles and not be cold longer.

Read your own words bozo. You said "you stated" certain words and I
did not. I said "I stated" and, as usual, I did. Simple as that. Did
you pass English in grade school?

If you say the hot cycles are longer, then where do you fit in all
those cold cycles. And, if you try to say that the cold cycles are
consectutive, then that's the same as a long cold cycle. Robbie,
you've been exposed AGAIN.

All that ramble when you still missed it!

> > > I had to ask why not, and I'm 10 times smarter than you.
> > > That's why I said I'd explain it to you, because you'll never
> get
> > it
> > > for years.
> >
> > More con man BS. Only the con man has it all figured out. We've
> seen
> > this all before in movies and TV shows, little man. LMAO.
> >

I think our con mans' "you know what" is starting to shrivel up.

That's not like you, little dicky. I'm not trying to steal your
thunder!

> > > I can see you're curious and who wouldn't be that is
> > > hooked on the game. And it doesn't make anything ILLEGAL

about

> your
> > > beloved machines. Just remember this to help you keep your
> sanity:
> > > The machines retain their random characteristics, they of
course
> > pass
> > > all tests, and they are 100% legal because that's the only

way

> > > they're manufactured to Nv. standards. And also remember

this:

I
> > > don't have to believe the guy and you don't either. That's

why

I
> > have
> > > spent extensive time comparing my true casino results with

many

> > > similar trials at home on WinPoker, and for several years now
> I've
> > > done FAR FAR better in the casinos than here. I'm buying it

as

> 100%
> > > fact. If you want to smarten up then you will too.
> >
> > Does it get any more obvious than this? Did you steal this

script

> > from a TV show? Or Kevin Trudeau?
>
> Denial at it's finest!
> Who's Kevin trudeau?

Another con man. I already told you this twice before.

Oh. Did he make any money off of whatever con he was involved in?

> > I already did. Once since I moved to LV. Can't you read? Is

that

> > alcohol affecting your brain again?
>
> Deny deny deny.....

You got it figured out yet? I will deny all of your lies. Maybe a
little less alcohol would allow that FACT to slip into the few

brain

cells you have left around.

Come to think of it, I haven't yet had my 2 sips today--thanks for
reminding me!

> >
> > > > Now your claiming you sold 10,000 copies in a week. Chalk

up

> > > another
> > > > lie.
> > >
> > > What week? So who sells 'millions of copies' weekly?? What'd
you
> > do,
> > > just get off the toilet and lose your train of thought?
> >
> > You seem to have forgotten the context where I used "10s of
> copies".
> > Oh well, that's what happens when I have to deal with an
> ignoramus.
> > Go back a few posts an feel like an idiot ... again.
>
> If you won't clarify your statement that's what you get--people
> playing with your simple mind.
> >
> > > What's a dictionary?
> >
> > That's right ... it's a place that contains facts. You wouldn't
> know anything about one.
>
> I though it was a book where you looked up the proper spelling of
> words.

Just as I suspected.

So you finally agree with me....

> > > Looks like you've got an itch from me that you can't scratch!
> >
> > To be perfectly honest, little Robbie has improved his style by
> > immitating me. Unfortunately, he still tries to argue with
> assertions
> > and lies instead of facts. That will be his downfall forever.
>
> ....as I continue to climb on the video poker ladder of success,
> popularity, and fame! Admit it--you're INSANELY JEALOUS!!

Nope. Just pleased to have exposed you so completely and so

obviously

that your only defense is idiotic monkey boy rhetoric.

Oh gee, what a shame! Poor little dicky has a wedgie, and soon enough
I'll irritate him so much it'll change into a fudgie wudgie!

Pathological gamblers do have a way of absorbing big blows.

I'll leave that in there. Aptly describes you. The truth shuts little
dicky up ONE MORE TIME.

> > Avoiding the question, little man? Don't worry, everyone

already

> > knows the answer. Avoidence is the ONLY cure.
>
> Yes it is. That's why I'm not an addict fool like I used to be

and

> like you are today. I play only a few hours each week or month,

and

> how often do you say you play? Oh I get it--it's "neutral"

because

> you say so. OK, deny deny deny.

Did everyone notice how quickly Robbie slipped past the word AVOID?

I

sure did. Of course, he's not fooling anyone here.

Hmmm... You avoiding something here or am I mis-reading?? Kinda
happens when someone sticks it to ya on the gambling problem, I've
noticed.

> >
> > > > > > Funny, this Judge sounds exactly like little Robbie.

Your

> > > problem
> > > > > is a real judge deals in facts. You'd lose everytime.
> > > > >
> > > > > All he'd have to do is stop for a moment, think of how
> people
> > > like
> > > > > you've encouraged all the low lifes to come to town with
wet
> > > dreams
> > > > > of getting some of the money,
> > > >
> > > > Lie. I've never "encouraged" anyone to come to LV.
> > >
> > > Sure you do. You make believe you win, you post you win, and
the
> > low
> > > life penny-players over on vpFREE hear about it and want to

be

> like
> > > dicky, so they move their large poverty-filled families to LV
> and
> > try
> > > to follow in your hollow footsteps.
> >
> > Of course they do. Is this why you're so jealous? First, of all

I

> > would hope anyone "following in my footsteps" would be

listening

> to
> > everything I've said. You know, the facts. While money can be
> made,
> > it isn't much and who would come here for a measely $17K in an
> entire
> > year. You really are grasping at straws.
>
> Wrong again. To these people $17k is a lifetime of magic.

Of course it is Robbie. Do you even have any clue how you look when
you grasp at straws?

It's all a function of your naiiveness with the world and how it
really operates, little dicky. I wish i had better news for you, but
golly gee, you're so stupid when it comes to just about anything!

> > > >
> > > > I think they can find a more spacious place ... without a
> > security
> > > > system.
> > >
> > > You Forget. Almost every South/Central Asian who moves to

LA/LV

> has
> > a
> > > very well educated man at the helm,
> >
> > Of course they do. So little time, so many worthless

assertions.

> Is
> > this why you changed jobs so often? You couldn't get way with
> faking
> > it forever?
>
> Changing jobs? Off track a little bit, which means you're getting
> frustrated. OK. Here's a hint: Changing jobs = MORE MONEY! Every
> time. You build up a reputation of the best and the others want
you.

Of course they did.

Yup! And I STILL get offers every few months.

> > > and it's almost always in the
> > > sciences. Home security systems are of little deterrent for
> these
> > > folks, and they can steal a new car in the blink of an eye if
> they
> > > chose to.
> >
> > If they break into my place they'd be very disappointed. I'm

sure

> > they can do better. I know they'd really love my 22 year old TV.
>
> To them, any of your junk is valuable.

They can have it. It's insured.

Funny you lean on that. That reminds me of an article I came across
in the NY Times a couple weeks ago. It talked about what cross
sections of American society are more likely to commit insurance
fraud vs. others. Guess where GAMBLERS showed up....and gues where
PROBLEM GAMBLERS showed up!

> > > > > It will get your mind off of how much you lost
> > > > > today feeding your sick habit.
> > > >
> > > > Hard to lose when when you don't gamble. Of course, I

didn't

> win
> > > > today either.
> > >
> > > But the biggest problem of all? You couldn't get me or vp off
> your
> > > mind.
> >
> > No, I relaxed, watched bowling, golf and couple of movies. Did
> some
> > work around the house. It's really quite easy.
>
> What'd you have, sore balls from sitting on them in the casinos

so

> often?

But fret not, I'll be there tomorrow.

A sad statement you can easily make and be truthful about every
day....

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > > Nobody "gambles" (is that what you just said??) as much as
the
> > AP's
> > >
> > > Please provide one single little fact to back up this
assertion.
> > > Don't have any? Didn't think so.
> >
> > Yeah here's one....again. You claim to play vp at least 3 hours

a

> > day, and you seem particularly proud of such a sickness.
>
> Never said that. I average around 3 hours a day. Big difference.

Yup, BIG difference!

Thanks for admitting you lied.

> Occasionally, I play more, sometimes not at all. So far this year
220
> hours in around 80 days. 220/80 = 2.75/day. Compare that with a
part
> time job at 4-6 hours a day. The pay is probably equal or less,

but

> you have complete independence, no boss and a free lunch (whoever
> said there was no such thing?).

That's where the 'sickness' part comes in. Rationalizing a problem
into it being something better than anyone else does.

I didn't say it was better. I just described the facts. I can imagine
there are lots of people who wouldn't be at all interested in my
lifestyle. Many hobbies can be profitable, AP is just one of them.

Twisting the
meaning of normal people's activity into the toilet. Glamorizing
addiction as if it were something to be proud of.

Addiction was never mentioned.

>
> > You say
> > you're an 'AP'. Of all the thousands of vp players I've talked
to,
> > only the so-called AP's play every day, hours a day, or hours
upon
> > hours every time they play. The rest of the people are sane.
>
> Interesting. You start with lie and then build a case on it.

OH? So now you're not one of those 'AP's"?

Just the facts.

You are
> so obvious. Add to that, we already know you don't talk to vp
> players. That was obvious when you claimed you never heard anyone
say
> the machines were controlled externally. Let me know when you

have

> something intelligent to say.

I think you've already successfully solidified you're mixed-up
position here. Try again.

Don't you wish.

>
> >
> > Having gambled in MN where AP is
> > > pretty much unheard of, I can tell you that most players who
show
> > up
> > > all the time don't have a clue. Don't believe me. I'll meet

you

> at
> > > one of the casinos and take you around. Don't want to make

the

> > long
> > > trip? Then, let's meet at Sams' Town where the same TRUTH
holds.
> > > Short coiners galore, busy 9-5 DDB machines. Same players
> > regularly
> > > all the while FP machines sit idle.
> >
> > I have no disagreement with what you're trying to say--that
locals
> > are found sitting at the machines all the time. To further
> enlighten
> > you here, you should know that almost every regular player--

esp.

at
> > Sam's Town--believes they are some sort of an AP.
>
> Of course you'd love that to be true. But then, how do you
reconcile
> that with them playing short coin? They are not APers. It appears
to
> me you don't even know what it takes to be an APer. All this
rhetoric
> blasting APers and you have no clue what an APer does. This is
sweet.

You don't need to play full-coin to believe you're an AP.

No, but who cares? You think you're a guru and no one cares about
that either. Let's get this straight. APers ONLY play with an edge.

That's
where the geeks get lost in the discussions--esp. on vpFREE. Since

no

player has any advantage over ANY casino when they play

I see, the laws of the universe somehow change inside a casino. These
con man assertions are so obvious it's not even funny.

-barring extreme mistakes by the casino -

Or, over 100% VP.

and anyone can win at any time on
any machine, the advantage goes to whomever wins and leaves with

his

or her winnings.

That is the goal. And, that is exactly what's so great about AP.
People can actually win more money than they lose.

It is so simple to comprehend, yet you cling to your
long-term theories and math models as if they were comfort blankies
that won't ever wear out--regardless if they help you sleep or not.

Very comfortable when you KNOW you have the advantage.

>
> > The same with the
> > Indian casinos, and even many on-line players. Listen to them

and

> > most will gladly spew about how they have this or that

advantage

> > today, and that's why they're playing. No one need be playing

as

> you
> > would in order to say they're an advantage player.
>
> Lot's of gamblers think they will win. Has nothing to do with

being

> an APer. An advantage player plays with an edge, PERIOD. Get with
the
> program.

Still stuck on that nonsense I see.

Just the facts, as usual.

> The TRUTH is that the majority of people who read this forum
already
> know all about FVP or VPSM. They already know about computer
> generated strategies. So, let's hear you deny they exist again.
Only
> little Robbie could make my point, that he is a Liar And Fraud,

so

> PERFECTLY.

So what else is new?

Nothing.

>> > I'll just sit back and relax (and laugh) while I watch you

waver

> > between airplanes and tugboats!! And all because you've lost
track
> > of where you were with this!!!
>
> You said ANY pilot could fly a plane. Please, tell me again that

a

> tug boat pilot could fly a fighter jet.

First, unless you supply specifics about whom you're talking about,
you can't simply dismiss a tugboat operator as being able to also

fly

a plane--any of them.

Do I sense a little acrambling?

Now I feel like the geek.

Sorry, you'll never reach that high a level.

Now, to get back to POINT.
> Clearly, using terms like ALL and ONLY almost never apply. Of
course,
> that will cut your vocabulary down quite a bit.

Now you're getting the picture.

I already did. LMAO.

> No, I know a con when I see one. Now, everyone else does too.
>
> > and want more answers that'll help you get out of your losing
> streak-
> > -even if it won't help your problem with gambling. Deny all you
> like-
> > -doesn't bother me! Disregard all the truth about it because

you

> end
> > up in tilt mode when you run it thru your slide rule. I take

more

> > and more Nv. money home all the time and that's what you're
> > interested in.
>
> It appears the con man gets a little aggitated when he's been
> exposed. He always starts babbling.

I thought I educated you on what a 'con' is. You, on the other

hand,

are at a loss for adequate wording, so you for some reason make
believe (again!) that I'm taking money from somewhere as I 'sell'
this concept of hot & cold cycles. It's clearly a function of you
never having gotten out more. I'll bet no one's ever even tickled
your feet!

The babbling continues ...

> > > It's common sense. IGT and other game providers are in
business.
> > The
> > > base cost of the machines is increased every time they have

to

> put
> > in
> > > additional programs. They will put in only what is required

by

> law
> > > and no more to increase their bottem line. It's all really

very

> > > simple, little man. That is, as long as you're not

perpetrating

a
> > con.
> >
> > One thing you've clearly shown over the past 2 years is you

have

no
> > aptitude at all when it comes to 'business'.
>
> I think most people understand the concept of keeping down costs

to

> increase profitability. Did you miss that class getting your MBA?

You must be the only dipstick alive who believes adding options to
something already successful won't generate even more revenue.

I see, now your calling these "hidden" programs, options. No one can
see them or use them but IGT adds them in for ... what purpose?
increased costs? Yup. The con goes on and on ...

>
> > And oh, BTW, a 'con' is
> > when someone tries to get other people's money. You're just a
teeny
> > weeny bit off on that path. Admit it little dicky!
>
> I'm right on target. Only your primary goal is to build up your

ego

> and make everyone believe you're some kind of guru. You also

think

it will lead to big money eventually.

That's a tongue-twister if I've ever seen one! Stopped cold, you

make

a 360 and say the 'con' is to build some sort of ego!! HAHA! Now
THERE's positive EV without the pahntom bucks!

I said exactly what I meant. The truth does get you flustered.

> > > > > The final proof of the con. Do you really expect any
> > intelligent
> > > > > person to believe this crap. Tell me what's in it for

IGT?

> How
> > > does
> > > > > it improve their bottem line? Oh, and your previous

comment

> > > > > about "long cold and short hot cycles" WOULD make the
> machines
> > > > > ILLEGAL. It would be impossible to pass the randomness
tests.
> > Do
> > > I
> > > > > need to explain why?
> > > >
> > > > Ever been to Australia? Didn't think so. Ever been on a 1st
> > class
> > > > over-the-ocean flight? Didn't think so.
> > >
> > > Now tell us how this effects whether machnes have hot and

cold

> > > cycles. Can't? Didn't think so. Typical con man approach when
> > backed
> > > up against a wall. Try and change the subject.
> >
> > It's all in the same line of fire for you little
> > dicky.....humiliation on top of ridicule over and over again.

If

> > someone told me as I graduated high school I'd be having this
much
> > fun making fun of a nerd today, I'd have never believed them.
Thank
> > you for being YOU!
>
> ROTF again. Robbie has nothing but his standard babbling to

defend

> himself and his ridiculous con. As an exposed con man, little
Robbie,
> be honest, tell us how it feels.

I think you like being made a fool over over and over again.

You've got it part right, I like making you look like "a fool over
over and over again".

> > > > My opinion is it doesn't change a thing, and that's
> > > > because the interpretation of 'randomness' in the

regulation

is not compromised.
> > >
> > > Oh, but it would be unless the hot and cold cycles were

EXACTLY

> > the
> > > same duration. But, you stated the cold cycles were longer,
> didn't
> > > you.
> >
> > Nope. I stated that there are few hot and many cold cycles.
>
> Sorry, moron, but that's the same thing. Explain how a machine

can

> have many cold cycles, only a few hot cycles and not be cold

longer.

Read your own words bozo. You said "you stated" certain words and I
did not. I said "I stated" and, as usual, I did. Simple as that.

Did

you pass English in grade school?

I must admit this a very poor attempt to avoid explaining what you
meant. Can't you support your idiotic con any better than this?

> If you say the hot cycles are longer, then where do you fit in

all

> those cold cycles. And, if you try to say that the cold cycles

are

> consectutive, then that's the same as a long cold cycle. Robbie,
> you've been exposed AGAIN.

All that ramble when you still missed it!

Chuckle, chuckle, I got it and now you're scrambling. It couldn't be
more obvious.

> > > > Looks like you've got an itch from me that you can't

scratch!

> > >
> > > To be perfectly honest, little Robbie has improved his style

by

> > > immitating me. Unfortunately, he still tries to argue with
> > assertions
> > > and lies instead of facts. That will be his downfall forever.
> >
> > ....as I continue to climb on the video poker ladder of

success,

> > popularity, and fame! Admit it--you're INSANELY JEALOUS!!
>
> Nope. Just pleased to have exposed you so completely and so
obviously
> that your only defense is idiotic monkey boy rhetoric.

Oh gee, what a shame! Poor little dicky has a wedgie, and soon

enough

I'll irritate him so much it'll change into a fudgie wudgie!

Of course you will. Let me know when "soon enough" comes along.

> > > Avoiding the question, little man? Don't worry, everyone
already
> > > knows the answer. Avoidence is the ONLY cure.
> >
> > Yes it is. That's why I'm not an addict fool like I used to be
and
> > like you are today. I play only a few hours each week or month,
and
> > how often do you say you play? Oh I get it--it's "neutral"
because
> > you say so. OK, deny deny deny.
>
> Did everyone notice how quickly Robbie slipped past the word

AVOID?

I
> sure did. Of course, he's not fooling anyone here.

Hmmm... You avoiding something here or am I mis-reading??

The latter.

> > Wrong again. To these people $17k is a lifetime of magic.
>
> Of course it is Robbie. Do you even have any clue how you look

when

> you grasp at straws?

It's all a function of your naiiveness with the world and how it
really operates, little dicky. I wish i had better news for you,

but

golly gee, you're so stupid when it comes to just about anything!

From the man who "avoids" his addiction by gambling monthly.

> > > > and it's almost always in the
> > > > sciences. Home security systems are of little deterrent for
> > these
> > > > folks, and they can steal a new car in the blink of an eye

if

> > they
> > > > chose to.
> > >
> > > If they break into my place they'd be very disappointed. I'm
sure
> > > they can do better. I know they'd really love my 22 year old

TV.

> >
> > To them, any of your junk is valuable.
>
> They can have it. It's insured.

Funny you lean on that. That reminds me of an article I came across
in the NY Times a couple weeks ago. It talked about what cross
sections of American society are more likely to commit insurance
fraud vs. others. Guess where GAMBLERS showed up....and gues where
PROBLEM GAMBLERS showed up!

Please give a reference. Also, how did you get to insurance fraud
from someone breaking in and stealing a TV?

> > Occasionally, I play more, sometimes not at all. So far this

year

> 220
> > hours in around 80 days. 220/80 = 2.75/day. Compare that with a
> part
> > time job at 4-6 hours a day. The pay is probably equal or less,
but
> > you have complete independence, no boss and a free lunch

(whoever

> > said there was no such thing?).
>
> That's where the 'sickness' part comes in. Rationalizing a

problem

> into it being something better than anyone else does.

I didn't say it was better. I just described the facts. I can

imagine

there are lots of people who wouldn't be at all interested in my
lifestyle. Many hobbies can be profitable, AP is just one of them.

I kinda think I'll stick with a 4-mile jog/walk and working on my
older cars every day.

> Twisting the
> meaning of normal people's activity into the toilet. Glamorizing
> addiction as if it were something to be proud of.

Addiction was never mentioned.

Denial is mention.

> > > You say
> > > you're an 'AP'. Of all the thousands of vp players I've

talked

> to,
> > > only the so-called AP's play every day, hours a day, or hours
> upon
> > > hours every time they play. The rest of the people are sane.
> >
> > Interesting. You start with lie and then build a case on it.
>
> OH? So now you're not one of those 'AP's"?

Just the facts.

???

> > > pretty much unheard of, I can tell you that most players
Then, let's meet at Sams' Town where the same TRUTH

> holds.
> > > > Short coiners galore, busy 9-5 DDB machines. Same players
> > > regularly
> > > > all the while FP machines sit idle.
> > >
> > > I have no disagreement with what you're trying to say--that
> locals
> > > are found sitting at the machines all the time. To further
> > enlighten
> > > you here, you should know that almost every regular player--
esp.
> at
> > > Sam's Town--believes they are some sort of an AP.
> >
> > Of course you'd love that to be true. But then, how do you
> reconcile
> > that with them playing short coin? They are not APers. It

appears

> to
> > me you don't even know what it takes to be an APer. All this
> rhetoric
> > blasting APers and you have no clue what an APer does. This is
> sweet.
>
> You don't need to play full-coin to believe you're an AP.

No, but who cares?

That doesn't make sense.

You think you're a guru and no one cares about that either.

You haven't figured it out yet, have you. I mock the gurus by calling
myself a 'guru' because I expose their slimy existence in the vp
world.

Let's get this straight. APers ONLY play with an edge.

And lets get this straight: There's only one edge when someone walks
into a casino ever, and it always and only belongs to the casino.
Always. The rest of your BS is for phoney justification purposes
only, and allows you to make believe you don't have a problem with
the gambling.

> That's
> where the geeks get lost in the discussions--esp. on vpFREE.

Since

no
> player has any advantage over ANY casino when they play

I see, the laws of the universe somehow change inside a casino.

These

con man assertions are so obvious it's not even funny.

> -barring extreme mistakes by the casino -

Or, over 100% VP.

Itf it were 130% it wouldn't matter. If you lose you had no
advantage, and if you walk out a winner you did. But when you came
in, you were at a serious disadvantage. It's a casino bozo. Think
they're gonna just give it all away??

> and anyone can win at any time on
> any machine, the advantage goes to whomever wins and leaves with
his
> or her winnings.

That is the goal. And, that is exactly what's so great about AP.
People can actually win more money than they lose.

So what's the percent have to do with it then. You go in today and
play a 97% machine and win. Tomorrow you sit at a 101% game and you
lose. Happens millions of times a day. Theory has nothing to do with
reality. HELLO McFLY!!

> It is so simple to comprehend, yet you cling to your
> long-term theories and math models as if they were comfort

blankies

> that won't ever wear out--regardless if they help you sleep or

not.

Very comfortable when you KNOW you have the advantage.

Yup, in the make believe world of addicted gamblers, yes.

> First, unless you supply specifics about whom you're talking

about,

> you can't simply dismiss a tugboat operator as being able to also
fly
> a plane--any of them.

Do I sense a little acrambling?

More like correcting you, the author of this stupid subject. You
weren't prepared for it from the start.

> > > One thing you've clearly shown over the past 2 years is you
have
> no
> > > aptitude at all when it comes to 'business'.
> >
> > I think most people understand the concept of keeping down

costs

to
> > increase profitability. Did you miss that class getting your

MBA?

>
> You must be the only dipstick alive who believes adding options

to

> something already successful won't generate even more revenue.

I see, now your calling these "hidden" programs, options. No one

can

see them or use them but IGT adds them in for ... what purpose?
increased costs? Yup. The con goes on and on ...

I'm told they're actually cheaper to include in the programs by
streamlinng the effort. Where'd you go wrong on THIS one little
dicky?? Of course you'll deny it, but what's new on a subject you
don't understand?

> > > And oh, BTW, a 'con' is
> > > when someone tries to get other people's money. You're just a
> teeny
> > > weeny bit off on that path. Admit it little dicky!
> >
> > I'm right on target. Only your primary goal is to build up your
ego
> > and make everyone believe you're some kind of guru. You also
think
> it will lead to big money eventually.
>
> That's a tongue-twister if I've ever seen one! Stopped cold, you
make
> a 360 and say the 'con' is to build some sort of ego!! HAHA! Now
> THERE's positive EV without the pahntom bucks!

I said exactly what I meant. The truth does get you flustered.

I like it! Made a fool of, then he comes back and CONFIRMS it! Oh
what did I do to deserve another round of 'slapping the nerd'?!

> > > > > Ever been to Australia? Didn't think so. Ever been on a

1st

> > > class
> > > > > over-the-ocean flight? Didn't think so.
> > > >
> > > > Now tell us how this effects whether machnes have hot and
cold
> > > > cycles. Can't? Didn't think so. Typical con man approach

when

> > > backed
> > > > up against a wall. Try and change the subject.
> > >
> > > It's all in the same line of fire for you little
> > > dicky.....humiliation on top of ridicule over and over again.
If
> > > someone told me as I graduated high school I'd be having this
> much
> > > fun making fun of a nerd today, I'd have never believed them.
> Thank
> > > you for being YOU!
> >
> > ROTF again. Robbie has nothing but his standard babbling to
defend
> > himself and his ridiculous con. As an exposed con man, little
> Robbie,
> > be honest, tell us how it feels.

I'm not sure what you were trying to write, but I'm going to church
tomorrow to give thanks for my having such a good time ridiculing a
geek once more! Deja vu all over again!!!

>
> > > Nope. I stated that there are few hot and many cold cycles.
> >
> > Sorry, moron, but that's the same thing. Explain how a machine
can
> > have many cold cycles, only a few hot cycles and not be cold
longer.
>
> Read your own words bozo. You said "you stated" certain words and

I

> did not. I said "I stated" and, as usual, I did. Simple as that.
Did
> you pass English in grade school?

I must admit this a very poor attempt to avoid explaining what you
meant. Can't you support your idiotic con any better than this?

The words as printed is what I meant. Only a confused geek would try
to change the meaning. Use some of those 4 computers to decipher
simple wording and it might let you sleep tonight.

>
> > If you say the hot cycles are longer, then where do you fit in
all
> > those cold cycles. And, if you try to say that the cold cycles
are
> > consectutive, then that's the same as a long cold cycle.

Robbie,

> > you've been exposed AGAIN.
>
> All that ramble when you still missed it!

Chuckle, chuckle, I got it and now you're scrambling. It couldn't

be more obvious.

Yup, and your tongue-twisting of the real wording continues. I never
said the hot cycles were longer. You're scrambling around trying to
figure it out so you're throwing words out at a frenzied pace!

> > > > > Looks like you've got an itch from me that you can't
scratch!....as I continue to climb on the video poker ladder of
success,
> > > popularity, and fame! Admit it--you're INSANELY JEALOUS!!
> >
> > Nope. Just pleased to have exposed you so completely and so
> obviously
> > that your only defense is idiotic monkey boy rhetoric.
>
> Oh gee, what a shame! Poor little dicky has a wedgie, and soon
enough
> I'll irritate him so much it'll change into a fudgie wudgie!

Of course you will. Let me know when "soon enough" comes along.

Right now.

> > > Wrong again. To these people $17k is a lifetime of magic.
> >
> > Of course it is Robbie. Do you even have any clue how you look
when
> > you grasp at straws?
>
> It's all a function of your naiiveness with the world and how it
> really operates, little dicky. I wish i had better news for you,
but
> golly gee, you're so stupid when it comes to just about anything!

From the man who "avoids" his addiction by gambling monthly.

Controlled addiction, little dicky. To me, now a job for 9+ years. 6
hours in 3 months this year. My way. Never again roped in for sucker
plays like you get bamboozled by. Remember reading that in your
articles about those who choose not to quit? Why, I'll bet you get
profusely sweaty hands reading all that LV mail up there in nowhere
land! I just toss the junk out before opening it.

> > > > If they break into my place they'd be very disappointed.

I'm

> sure
> > > > they can do better. I know they'd really love my 22 year

old

TV.
> > >
> > > To them, any of your junk is valuable.
> >
> > They can have it. It's insured.
>
> Funny you lean on that. That reminds me of an article I came

across

> in the NY Times a couple weeks ago. It talked about what cross
> sections of American society are more likely to commit insurance
> fraud vs. others. Guess where GAMBLERS showed up....and guess

where

> PROBLEM GAMBLERS showed up!

Please give a reference. Also, how did you get to insurance fraud
from someone breaking in and stealing a TV?

Here's a hint "It's insured".....by little dicky. Here's another: "NY
Times a few weeks ago" by your teacher.

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