Dan's Asked Me To Give It My Best Shot

[rgmustain]

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wrote:

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
> wrote:
> > > > Now I've got him talking to himself!
> >
> > > I do talk to myself sometimes. Sometimes to stubborn VP
machines
> as
> > > well. I find both situations to be much more intellectually
> > stimulating than talking to the monkey boy.
> >
> > Who's the guy that said you have no hypocracy?? Oh yes, I think
it
> was
> > one of your TWO or THREE fans in this world! Let's see....I

have

> 6164
> > that I know of who get my e-newsletter. You're talking to the
right
> > person if you're trying to join the vp in-crowd.
>
> I wonder how many of them do it for the laughs.

Plenty. That's especially evident (and nice) when they read of your
humiliation in last week's column.

Sorry, moron, I don't read GT. Never have.

I have ample replies from many of
those whom you believe you've mesmerized with your trying to belong
on Internet forums, to know that you're the present laughing stock

of

Las Vagas--the town you thought you could move to and act like a
biggie in who doesn't gamble--but plays video poker for hours every
day.

Sure there are. I can always tell when you make these things up. You
really should get a real life and leave the fantasy world you seem to
live in daily.

> However, we all know "there's a sucker born every day". I believe
> there are lots of folks out there who believe Robs' lies (look at
the number of people who still think VP is controlled through a
switch in the backroom).

Let's have some facts on those assertions, Mr. Geek.
1. Name the sucker who was born today.

Silly question.

2. Name my lies, and support them with data.

Not enough space.

3. Name those who you say believe those lies.

Sounds like somewhere between 1-6164. Look at your distribution list
for the names.

4. Name the number of people who think VP is controlled by a switch.

If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess you are beyond
hope. You should get out once in awhile.

5. Name them.

Not enough space.

Kevin Trudeau is making millions using pseudo-medical
> scam which is pretty much the exact same approach as Singer. Rob,
you are a small con man in comparison. If you think that claiming
6164 morons exist in the world is big news, think again. There's a
lot more.

Who's Kevin Trudeau? Does he make money off of people like Dancer,
Paymar, Scott, Hughes, and the rest? If so and he has a scam, then
they're morons. Right now you seem to be the only moron posting.

It's

not everyday a wannabee tries his heart out to 'belong' and just
can't make it.

Just the fact you can't figure out who Trudeau is is plenty of
evidence you are a complete moron. In fact, if you are now claiming
that you believe no one thinks VP is controlled by a switch in the
back room, there's even more evidence.

PS. I don't "belong" or care to "belong" to whatever your imagination
thinks there is to "belong" to. On the other hand, it is completely
obvious that you want to be known as a VP guru. One of your many
failures.

>
> > >
> > > > Do I own this old buzzard or WHAT!!
> > >
> > > Strange remark from a 56 year old buzzard himself.
> >
> > Let's look at that a bit. I'm in perfect shape - check it out

on

my
> > videos - except for my foot, which will be repaired within 4
> months.
> > I've seen your picture also.
> > You're what they call a 'pot-bellied pig".
>
> Lie. But, you could have seen me in person if you had the guts to
> follow through on the tennis/bowling matches. But no, you were
afraid to face me. I think that pretty much sums up your "perfect
shape". You're afraid to face someone you call a "pot-bellied pig".

Not a lie at all--now you're denying how pitiful you look at 60. My
guess is

You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you are "guess"ing.
Even you can't maintain one of your lies for two days.

you've been struggling with weight all your life, which only
goes to support your introvert label. Too late on trying to save

face

on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the many times I've
tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in public print now.

I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it. Then I can add
several items to the Lie list above.

Next time you want to make a fool of yourself, try to do it

privately

with me. You'll save yourself a whole lot of embarrassment.

Let me know when the embarrassment begins. I really find it humorous
that you think your little coulmn could have any influence on me (or
anyone for that matter). Part of that monkey boy influence? You must
be starting to believe your own hype.

> > >We all know you'd
> > > like us to think you were much younger. Your 3rd grade taunts
are
> > > evidence of that (Note: I apologize to all above average 3rd
> graders
> > > who may be insulted by this comparison).
> >
> > I was thinking more in terms of 10th grade taunts. That's when

us

> guys
> > used to pull down the pants of the nerds in front of the girls.
> What I
> > do to you here has the same effect except with a bonus--you

have

no
> > hope for the future now.
>
> Sorry, that would still be 3rd grade intellect in a 10th grade
moron.
> But, it fits you well. You still have the (below average) 3rd

grade

> intellect but now it's in a 56 year old moron.

....As I crack the whip again. Remember the bonus: You have no hope
for the future.

Got you there, didn't I? This "crack the whip" nonsense is
demonstrating you have nothing intelligent (or otherwise) to say.
LMAO.

>
> Now, let me think ... how many times has Robbie mentioned the
pulling
> down pants story? ... 10 ... 20 ... more? ... Why would this

stick

> with someone for so long? ... 40+ years ... I can only think of

two

> reasons. 1) It was the last time anyone paid any attention to
> them ... 2) They were the victim. Which is it Robbie?

It comes up with you because no one more than you reminds me in
actions or looks of the nerds we used to belittle.

Of course little man. LMAO.

Of course they
weren't fat then and you probably weren't either. Nerds tend to put
on all that weight from sitting around doing geeky things alone.

Let's see that picture, moron. What? Another lie? You really don't
have a picture? LMAO again.

Like
you do with hours of vp all the time. And they never fought back
either---kinda like you being afraid to ever face me for a live
debate on the radio to prove you lie, at casinos to prove I win

when

you say it's not possible,

Lie. I'm one of the few people who have said it is possible (albeit 1
in 100). The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt again. Come on
Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't you?

tennis for real money, or even bowling as
a sideshow.

Just let me know when you want to play. However, let's make it 20K
each.

Back then we called you fairies chicken. Today, from the
safety of hiding behind your computer, your just a plain coward.
Imagine the introverted nerd you'd have REALLY been had they had
computers when you were wasting time playing with your tinker toys,
your sliderule, and your weeny! Oh, this is too good!! Somebody

hold

me up!!!!!!!!!

Come on techno-weenie, admit you were the victim. Your babbling here
is almost complete admission. ROTFLMAO. Whew ... this is great!

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[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> Some people are addicted to exercise, some people are addicted to
> work, some people are addicted to sex. The problem is not finding

out

>who is addicted to what. The problem is determining if the

addiction

>is creating problems for them.

Denial creates justification. Where's your supporting
evidence/documentation for that nonsense? You're big on that, so

let's

see it. Your words even admit you know you have a gambling

addiction--

just as I've said all along.

I gave you some websites previously. You ignored them. Start here.

http://www.ncpgambling.org/

Note that they talk about "problem gambling" rather than addiction.
You see "my words" actually indicate I know what I'm talking about.
If you really wanted to know the truth you would have read some of
this information when I challenged you previously. Clearly, you
weren't interested in the TRUTH then, and I suspect you're not
interested in the TRUTH now.

Try taking the self-test. Note that there are no questions
about "quantity of gambling". Many of the uninformed (like yourself)
can only equate quantity of gambling to addiction. This has nothing
to do with problem gambling. My opinion? No. "The frequency of a
person's gambling does not determine whether or not they have a
gambling problem". This is directly from the website above.

Now, let's hear some more words of wisdom from Robbie, an uninformed
idiot.

Addictions to anything are negative influences and you know it.

I love it when you are so completely wrong.

It's
not IF one can determine a problem exists, it's WHEN. All you're

trying

to do is underhandedly tell Rastis you make money gambling so

therefore

it's not a problem.

That's clearly a major part of it. By far, the majority of problems
that result from gambling are due to losing money. If you still don't
understand this maybe I need to give you some more references. Now,
if you want to use me as an example, fine. Before I understood
anything about advantage play my wife and I averaged about 1 gambling
trip a year and set aside a predefined amount that we would lose. We
did this for 20+ years. We never lost all that money on a single
trip. Why? We understood the potential problem areas upfront. Still
do.

You play all the time, you pound away at similar
machines, and just like Dancer & The Queen you use all your comps

to

cover your losses and make believe you have a winning year.

Lie. I don't include comps in my winnings. Cash only. Last year that
was over $17K. Not a lot, but then again, I don't risk a lot. I
really shouldn't claim that as a total because I pay taxes on those
winnings and the W2Gs we receive reduce some of our other exemptions.

Therefore
it's not a problem. One of the more acute problems addictions

create--

whether it's exercize, shopping, video poker, working, or anything--

is

collateral damage over the life of the addiction.

Now you're starting to get the picture. Addiction itself is not a
problem. It's only when an addiction leads to other PROBLEMS. Now do
you understand why they call it "Problem Gambling"?

Others are affected.
Too much work = ignoring those close to you. Too much exercize =
looking a little too freaky. Too much shopping = too much

meaningless

stuff.

That's right. However, these problems do not exist 100% of the time.

Too much video poker = time away from healthier activities,
family, and spending too much time in very unhealthy environments.

Please show evidence to support this claim. Compare it to the
environment in the Phoenix area so we can see if it's worse than your
day to day environment.

In
your case you try to make believe no negative exists, because you
turned your wife into the same type of addict you are, you're not
interested in anything else in life, and you for some sick

reasoning

think discovering AP video poker is the crowning achievement in an
otherwise insignificant career.

Denial creates justification.....

Knowledge avoids the pitfalls of looking like a fool. Now that you've
been educated I expect more intelligent responses in the future.

[Rob_Singer1]

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wrote:
>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@>

wrote:

> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Now I've got him talking to himself!
> > >
> > > > I do talk to myself sometimes. Sometimes to stubborn VP
> machines
> > as
> > > > well. I find both situations to be much more

intellectually

> > > stimulating than talking to the monkey boy.
> > >
> > > Who's the guy that said you have no hypocracy?? Oh yes, I

think

> it
> > was
> > > one of your TWO or THREE fans in this world! Let's see....I
have
> > 6164
> > > that I know of who get my e-newsletter. You're talking to

the

> right
> > > person if you're trying to join the vp in-crowd.
> >
> > I wonder how many of them do it for the laughs.
>
> Plenty. That's especially evident (and nice) when they read of

your

> humiliation in last week's column.

Sorry, moron, I don't read GT. Never have.

Are you kidding! You're in line right behind Jean Scott as the first
2 to read my weekly column. But you can make yourself feel good by
lying about it. Making things up is what you do best.

> I have ample replies from many of
> those whom you believe you've mesmerized with your trying to

belong

> on Internet forums, to know that you're the present laughing

stock

of
> Las Vagas--the town you thought you could move to and act like a
> biggie in who doesn't gamble--but plays video poker for hours

every

> day.

Sure there are. I can always tell when you make these things up.

You

really should get a real life and leave the fantasy world you seem

to

live in daily.

Hmmmm....This kind of bothers you, doesn't it. Oh well, I LOVE IT!!

>
> > However, we all know "there's a sucker born every day". I

believe

> > there are lots of folks out there who believe Robs' lies (look

at

> the number of people who still think VP is controlled through a
> switch in the backroom).
>
> Let's have some facts on those assertions, Mr. Geek.
> 1. Name the sucker who was born today.

Silly question.

You asked for it!

> 2. Name my lies, and support them with data.

Not enough space.

Translation: You can't keep up with how many times you lie about my
lying.

> 3. Name those who you say believe those lies.

Sounds like somewhere between 1-6164. Look at your distribution

list for the names.

Re-read the direction genius. Since you know the people who believe
what I say as lies, name them. Too tough little dicky??

> 4. Name the number of people who think VP is controlled by a

switch.

If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess you are beyond
hope. You should get out once in awhile.

Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now support it.

> 5. Name them.

Not enough space.

Maybe you'd better quit while you're behind.....

>
> Kevin Trudeau is making millions using pseudo-medical
> > scam which is pretty much the exact same approach as Singer.

Rob,

> you are a small con man in comparison. If you think that

claiming

> 6164 morons exist in the world is big news, think again. There's

a

> lot more.
>
> Who's Kevin Trudeau? Does he make money off of people like

Dancer,

> Paymar, Scott, Hughes, and the rest? If so and he has a scam,

then

> they're morons. Right now you seem to be the only moron posting.
It's
> not everyday a wannabee tries his heart out to 'belong' and just
> can't make it.

Just the fact you can't figure out who Trudeau is is plenty of
evidence you are a complete moron. In fact, if you are now

claiming

that you believe no one thinks VP is controlled by a switch in the
back room, there's even more evidence.

I don't care who your hero is nor do I even wonder about that switch
thing you made up. You go agonize over that meaningless stuff in
your own little introvert world and you'll be just fine.

PS. I don't "belong" or care to "belong" to whatever your

imagination thinks there is to "belong" to.

Don't sweat it. You'll never belong and that's that. You're too much
of a wussy. First, you'll need to attend a vpFREE luncheon--which
you'll never do because of your looks, your addict wife's, and how
much of a loner you are. Oh you want to 'belong' to the in-crowd of
video poker allright. It'll just never happen.

On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you want to be
known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.

That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your nonsensical
self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't even get a write-
in vote!

> >
> > > >
> > > > > Do I own this old buzzard or WHAT!!
> > > >
> > > > Strange remark from a 56 year old buzzard himself.
> > >
> > > Let's look at that a bit. I'm in perfect shape - check it

out

on
> my
> > > videos - except for my foot, which will be repaired within 4
> > months.
> > > I've seen your picture also.
> > > You're what they call a 'pot-bellied pig".
> >
> > Lie. But, you could have seen me in person if you had the guts

to

> > follow through on the tennis/bowling matches. But no, you were
> afraid to face me. I think that pretty much sums up

your "perfect

> shape". You're afraid to face someone you call a "pot-bellied

pig".

>
> Not a lie at all--now you're denying how pitiful you look at 60.

My

> guess is

You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you

are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your lies for two
days.

You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a picture. Who
would keep such a horrid thing??

> you've been struggling with weight all your life, which only
> goes to support your introvert label. Too late on trying to save
face
> on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the many times

I've

> tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in public print

now.

I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it. Then I can add
several items to the Lie list above.

BIG lie. Miussion accomplished.

> Next time you want to make a fool of yourself, try to do it
privately
> with me. You'll save yourself a whole lot of embarrassment.

Let me know when the embarrassment begins. I really find it

humorous

that you think your little coulmn could have any influence on me

(or

anyone for that matter). Part of that monkey boy influence? You

must

be starting to believe your own hype.

Just the fact that you keep talking to it dictates how you've been
ticked off by it. Just keep on denying. I get a laugh every time.

>
> > > >We all know you'd
> > > > like us to think you were much younger. Your 3rd grade

taunts

> are
> > > > evidence of that (Note: I apologize to all above average

3rd

> > graders
> > > > who may be insulted by this comparison).
> > >
> > > I was thinking more in terms of 10th grade taunts. That's

when

us
> > guys
> > > used to pull down the pants of the nerds in front of the

girls.

> > What I
> > > do to you here has the same effect except with a bonus--you
have
> no
> > > hope for the future now.
> >
> > Sorry, that would still be 3rd grade intellect in a 10th grade
> moron.
> > But, it fits you well. You still have the (below average) 3rd
grade
> > intellect but now it's in a 56 year old moron.
>
> ....As I crack the whip again. Remember the bonus: You have no

hope

> for the future.

Got you there, didn't I? This "crack the whip" nonsense is
demonstrating you have nothing intelligent (or otherwise) to say.
LMAO.

OK. Then just keep doing as I direct you to!

> >
> > Now, let me think ... how many times has Robbie mentioned the
> pulling
> > down pants story? ... 10 ... 20 ... more? ... Why would this
stick
> > with someone for so long? ... 40+ years ... I can only think

of

two
> > reasons. 1) It was the last time anyone paid any attention to
> > them ... 2) They were the victim. Which is it Robbie?
>
> It comes up with you because no one more than you reminds me in
> actions or looks of the nerds we used to belittle.

Of course little man. LMAO.

> Of course they
> weren't fat then and you probably weren't either. Nerds tend to

put

> on all that weight from sitting around doing geeky things alone.

Let's see that picture, moron. What? Another lie? You really don't
have a picture? LMAO again.

Now your REALLY getting worried! What's the matter fat boy--afraid
I'll put it up on my site? Or in the paper with my next ridicule of
you?? HAHAHA!! Keep on making your stomach acid gurgle!

> Like
> you do with hours of vp all the time. And they never fought back
> either---kinda like you being afraid to ever face me for a live
> debate on the radio to prove you lie, at casinos to prove I win
when
> you say it's not possible,

Lie. I'm one of the few people who have said it is possible

(albeit 1

in 100).

Wrong. You made that up because you lose so much the other way
you're trying to learn a better way to feed your addiction. I
wouldn't be surprised if you weren't playing my way as I write! (and
of course, making the poor wife do the same).

The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really

starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt again. Come

on

Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't you?

> tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> a sideshow.

Just let me know when you want to play. However, let's make it 20K
each.

I'll play you right now even before my foot operation. $20k each--
bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet where if I produce
the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k. Here's your
chance to redeem yourself. My guess is you'll use it as an escape
route yet again. But I can always hope you don't wuss out this time.

> Back then we called you fairies chicken. Today, from the
> safety of hiding behind your computer, your just a plain coward.
> Imagine the introverted nerd you'd have REALLY been had they had
> computers when you were wasting time playing with your tinker

toys,

> your sliderule, and your weeny! Oh, this is too good!! Somebody
hold
> me up!!!!!!!!!

Come on techno-weenie, admit you were the victim. Your babbling

here

is almost complete admission. ROTFLMAO. Whew ... this is great!

Yup. Victim. Special Unit. (whatever that means).

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[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
>
> > Some people are addicted to exercise, some people are addicted

to

> > work, some people are addicted to sex. The problem is not

finding

out
> >who is addicted to what. The problem is determining if the
addiction
> >is creating problems for them.
>
> Denial creates justification. Where's your supporting
> evidence/documentation for that nonsense? You're big on that, so
let's
> see it. Your words even admit you know you have a gambling
addiction--
> just as I've said all along.

I gave you some websites previously. You ignored them. Start here.

http://www.ncpgambling.org/

Note that they talk about "problem gambling" rather than

addiction.

You see "my words" actually indicate I know what I'm talking

about.

If you really wanted to know the truth you would have read some of
this information when I challenged you previously. Clearly, you
weren't interested in the TRUTH then, and I suspect you're not
interested in the TRUTH now.

Should I have expcted anything other than this? All you're doing, as
a genuine addict who has a real-life problem with gambling, is
identifying to the world that you constantly WONDER about your issue
with gambling by researching it and studying what it's all about,
and that alone constitutes a verifiable problem. Further, you say
you have children and grandchildren somewhere other than in LV. If
that's the case--and I hope it isn't for your and their sake--you
place gambling far above your relationship with them. I know if it
were me in a family who were both retired, I'd fly or drive off AT
LEAST once a month to be with them. You show you value video poker
much greater than any living being.

Try taking the self-test. Note that there are no questions
about "quantity of gambling". Many of the uninformed (like

yourself)

can only equate quantity of gambling to addiction. This has

nothing

to do with problem gambling. My opinion? No. "The frequency of a
person's gambling does not determine whether or not they have a
gambling problem". This is directly from the website above.

Now, let's hear some more words of wisdom from Robbie, an

uninformed idiot.

You continue to develop confidence-building scenarios as you stuff
that foot deeper and deeper into your mouth. How do you think all
this would sound if we were discussing it on the radio--"I moved to
LV so I could play video poker every day, I dragged my poor wife
into the gutter along with me, we just can't leave town more than
once every 3 months to visit family--and even then we stop at Indian
casinos every opportunity that arises, I'm not addicted though
because I found an obscure article that can be construed if read
with a liberal mind, as saying no one ever is addicted to gambling.
Besides, I don't gamble anyway. I'm an "ADVANTAGE player"! God save
this guy from himself.

>
> Addictions to anything are negative influences and you know it.

I love it when you are so completely wrong.

And I love it when you are stopped cold with the facts.

> It's
> not IF one can determine a problem exists, it's WHEN. All you're
trying
> to do is underhandedly tell Rastis you make money gambling so
therefore
> it's not a problem.

That's clearly a major part of it. By far, the majority of

problems

that result from gambling are due to losing money. If you still

don't

understand this maybe I need to give you some more references.

Now,

if you want to use me as an example, fine. Before I understood
anything about advantage play my wife and I averaged about 1

gambling

trip a year and set aside a predefined amount that we would lose.

We

did this for 20+ years. We never lost all that money on a single
trip. Why? We understood the potential problem areas upfront.

Still

do.

La la la la la la la la la la.... On and on with the self-
justifications and how you are one of the few exceptions to losing
play. You don't see it do you. Here's a challenge. Take a 6 month
retreat up in that shack in Minnesota where you don't go to that
biased Indian casino, and do nothing but enjoy life and have family
visit. See if you can do it. If you can, write it up and I'll say I
was wrong a million times over. Oh, i'll also throw in $10,000 to
keep you from getting the jones too fiercely.

> You play all the time, you pound away at similar
> machines, and just like Dancer & The Queen you use all your

comps

to
> cover your losses and make believe you have a winning year.

Lie. I don't include comps in my winnings. Cash only. Last year

that

was over $17K. Not a lot, but then again, I don't risk a lot. I
really shouldn't claim that as a total because I pay taxes on

those

winnings and the W2Gs we receive reduce some of our other

exemptions.

And would you ever be able to post that you lost? That's where the
rubber hits the road, not all your make-believe prowess and then
marginalizing what you do with it. The only difference between
Dancer/Scott and yourself is they have something to lose by putting
up negative numbers in public.

> Therefore
> it's not a problem. One of the more acute problems addictions
create--
> whether it's exercize, shopping, video poker, working, or

anything--

is
> collateral damage over the life of the addiction.

Now you're starting to get the picture. Addiction itself is not a
problem. It's only when an addiction leads to other PROBLEMS. Now

do

you understand why they call it "Problem Gambling"?

And you would readily tell of your 'other problems' created by
gambling? I don't think so, in fact, you won't even see the simple
ones: Unhealthy atmosphere to spend so many hours within/waste of
life/disrespecting your spouse by dragging her along with you. And
those aren't even touching the surface.

> Others are affected.
> Too much work = ignoring those close to you. Too much exercize =
> looking a little too freaky. Too much shopping = too much
meaningless
> stuff.

That's right. However, these problems do not exist 100% of the

time.

> Too much video poker = time away from healthier activities,
> family, and spending too much time in very unhealthy

environments.

Please show evidence to support this claim. Compare it to the
environment in the Phoenix area so we can see if it's worse than

your day to day environment.

Easy stuff. When you're off to the locals joints every day for
hours, I'm jogging (or walking until the foot is repaired), I'm
watching our daughter's little girl, working on the landscaping of
both our yards, working on restoring my old muscle car, and counting
my money won from playing not 2 hours of video poker last week, when
I came home with another $10,800 profit on $16,500 in W2G's. And all
this is done on a daily basis without sufferring thru LV-like
gridlock traffic, in a wide open area north of the city. Now if I
were still in my long-term strategy mode of 1990-1996, I'd be going
back and forth to Nevada playing for 6-10 or more hours a day
thinking that I could beat the computers one-on-one.

> In
> your case you try to make believe no negative exists, because

you

> turned your wife into the same type of addict you are, you're

not

> interested in anything else in life, and you for some sick
reasoning
> think discovering AP video poker is the crowning achievement in

an

> otherwise insignificant career.
>
> Denial creates justification.....

Knowledge avoids the pitfalls of looking like a fool. Now that

you've

been educated I expect more intelligent responses in the future.

You've shown no knowledge here--only how you'd like it to be so that
you won't be classified as a problem gambler. You know video poker
is the main ingredient in your life these days, and I'm the main
issue with your fantasy. To top it all off, you hate yourself for
what you did to the missus and you want to thank me for letting you
realize that. Just remember---Denial creates justification. Once you
get by that with a keen understanding of what it truly means, you'll
probably ask me out for dinner.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > > > > Now I've got him talking to himself!
> > > >
> > > > > I do talk to myself sometimes. Sometimes to stubborn VP
> > machines
> > > as
> > > > > well. I find both situations to be much more
intellectually
> > > > stimulating than talking to the monkey boy.
> > > >
> > > > Who's the guy that said you have no hypocracy?? Oh yes, I
think
> > it
> > > was
> > > > one of your TWO or THREE fans in this world! Let's see....I
> have
> > > 6164
> > > > that I know of who get my e-newsletter. You're talking to
the
> > right
> > > > person if you're trying to join the vp in-crowd.
> > >
> > > I wonder how many of them do it for the laughs.
> >
> > Plenty. That's especially evident (and nice) when they read of
your
> > humiliation in last week's column.
>
> Sorry, moron, I don't read GT. Never have.

Are you kidding!

No.

> > I have ample replies from many of
> > those whom you believe you've mesmerized with your trying to
belong
> > on Internet forums, to know that you're the present laughing
stock
> of
> > Las Vagas--the town you thought you could move to and act like

a

> > biggie in who doesn't gamble--but plays video poker for hours
every
> > day.
>
> Sure there are. I can always tell when you make these things up.
You
> really should get a real life and leave the fantasy world you

seem

to
> live in daily.

Hmmmm....This kind of bothers you, doesn't it. Oh well, I LOVE IT!!

You living in a fastasy world? Doesn't bother me, but you really
should to get a life.

>
> >
> > > However, we all know "there's a sucker born every day". I
believe
> > > there are lots of folks out there who believe Robs' lies

(look

at
> > the number of people who still think VP is controlled through a
> > switch in the backroom).
> >
> > Let's have some facts on those assertions, Mr. Geek.
> > 1. Name the sucker who was born today.
>
> Silly question.

You asked for it!

No I didn't. However, I do get inane responses from you quite often.

>
> > 2. Name my lies, and support them with data.
>
> Not enough space.

Translation: You can't keep up with how many times you lie about my
lying.

I don't try to keep up with your lying. That would be a full time job.

>
> > 3. Name those who you say believe those lies.
>
> Sounds like somewhere between 1-6164. Look at your distribution
list for the names.

Re-read the direction genius.

Not necesaary. I already answered the question.

>
> > 4. Name the number of people who think VP is controlled by a
switch.
>
> If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess you are

beyond

> hope. You should get out once in awhile.

Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now support it.

No, I asserted a common well known situation. I stand by my answer.
Now, tell me you never heard this remark EVER in a casino, Mr. Guru.

>
> > 5. Name them.
>
> Not enough space.

Maybe you'd better quit while you're behind.....

OK, try Hazel for starters.

>
> >
> > Kevin Trudeau is making millions using pseudo-medical
> > > scam which is pretty much the exact same approach as Singer.
Rob,
> > you are a small con man in comparison. If you think that
claiming
> > 6164 morons exist in the world is big news, think again.

There's

a
> > lot more.
> >
> > Who's Kevin Trudeau? Does he make money off of people like
Dancer,
> > Paymar, Scott, Hughes, and the rest? If so and he has a scam,
then
> > they're morons. Right now you seem to be the only moron

posting.

> It's
> > not everyday a wannabee tries his heart out to 'belong' and

just

> > can't make it.
>
> Just the fact you can't figure out who Trudeau is is plenty of
> evidence you are a complete moron. In fact, if you are now
claiming
> that you believe no one thinks VP is controlled by a switch in

the

> back room, there's even more evidence.

I don't care who your hero is nor do I even wonder about that

switch

thing you made up. You go agonize over that meaningless stuff in
your own little introvert world and you'll be just fine.

Can't figure it out, can you? You know, if you want to be considered
a guru at VP you really should get out once in awhile and see what's
going on.

>
> PS. I don't "belong" or care to "belong" to whatever your
imagination thinks there is to "belong" to.

Don't sweat it.

I won't

On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you want to be
known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.

That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your nonsensical
self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't even get a write-
in vote!

A self-proclaimed guru who doesn't have any idea that a large number
of the VP gambling poplution thinks the machines are controlled
externally. To state you're a guru while showing your complete
ignorance of VP is one BIG laugh. You sure do know how to look
foolish.

>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Do I own this old buzzard or WHAT!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Strange remark from a 56 year old buzzard himself.
> > > >
> > > > Let's look at that a bit. I'm in perfect shape - check it
out
> on
> > my
> > > > videos - except for my foot, which will be repaired within

4

> > > months.
> > > > I've seen your picture also.
> > > > You're what they call a 'pot-bellied pig".
> > >
> > > Lie. But, you could have seen me in person if you had the

guts

to
> > > follow through on the tennis/bowling matches. But no, you

were

> > afraid to face me. I think that pretty much sums up
your "perfect
> > shape". You're afraid to face someone you call a "pot-bellied
pig".
> >
> > Not a lie at all--now you're denying how pitiful you look at

60.

My
> > guess is
>
> You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you
are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your lies for two
days.

You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a picture. Who
would keep such a horrid thing??

OK, tell us where you got said picture. This ought to be fun seeing
Robbie scamble for an answer.

>
> > you've been struggling with weight all your life, which only
> > goes to support your introvert label. Too late on trying to

save

> face
> > on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the many times
I've
> > tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in public print
now.
>
> I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it. Then I can

add

> several items to the Lie list above.

BIG lie. Miussion accomplished.

No, I suspect your article contains several small lies. In fact, I'd
bet on it and I'd bet I could prove it.

>
> > Next time you want to make a fool of yourself, try to do it
> privately
> > with me. You'll save yourself a whole lot of embarrassment.
>
> Let me know when the embarrassment begins. I really find it
humorous
> that you think your little coulmn could have any influence on me
(or
> anyone for that matter). Part of that monkey boy influence? You
must
> be starting to believe your own hype.

Just the fact that you keep talking to it dictates how you've been
ticked off by it. Just keep on denying. I get a laugh every time.

"Talking to it"? Are you drinking already?

>
> >
> > > > >We all know you'd
> > > > > like us to think you were much younger. Your 3rd grade
taunts
> > are
> > > > > evidence of that (Note: I apologize to all above average
3rd
> > > graders
> > > > > who may be insulted by this comparison).
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking more in terms of 10th grade taunts. That's
when
> us
> > > guys
> > > > used to pull down the pants of the nerds in front of the
girls.
> > > What I
> > > > do to you here has the same effect except with a bonus--you
> have
> > no
> > > > hope for the future now.
> > >
> > > Sorry, that would still be 3rd grade intellect in a 10th

grade

> > moron.
> > > But, it fits you well. You still have the (below average) 3rd
> grade
> > > intellect but now it's in a 56 year old moron.
> >
> > ....As I crack the whip again. Remember the bonus: You have no
hope
> > for the future.
>
> Got you there, didn't I? This "crack the whip" nonsense is
> demonstrating you have nothing intelligent (or otherwise) to say.
> LMAO.

OK. Then just keep doing as I direct you to!

Dream on, monkey boy. Tell us again what a guru you are. We all need
another good laugh.

>
> > >
> > > Now, let me think ... how many times has Robbie mentioned the
> > pulling
> > > down pants story? ... 10 ... 20 ... more? ... Why would this
> stick
> > > with someone for so long? ... 40+ years ... I can only think
of
> two
> > > reasons. 1) It was the last time anyone paid any attention to
> > > them ... 2) They were the victim. Which is it Robbie?
> >
> > It comes up with you because no one more than you reminds me in
> > actions or looks of the nerds we used to belittle.
>
> Of course little man. LMAO.
>
> > Of course they
> > weren't fat then and you probably weren't either. Nerds tend to
put
> > on all that weight from sitting around doing geeky things

alone.

>
> Let's see that picture, moron. What? Another lie? You really

don't

> have a picture? LMAO again.

Now your REALLY getting worried! What's the matter fat boy--afraid
I'll put it up on my site? Or in the paper with my next ridicule of
you?? HAHAHA!! Keep on making your stomach acid gurgle!

I'm not the least bit afraid. Of course, we all know this is another
lie. Come on, monkey boy. Back up your newest fantasy claim or admit
you are, once again, lying.

>
> > Like
> > you do with hours of vp all the time. And they never fought

back

> > either---kinda like you being afraid to ever face me for a live
> > debate on the radio to prove you lie, at casinos to prove I win
> when
> > you say it's not possible,
>
> Lie. I'm one of the few people who have said it is possible
(albeit 1
> in 100).

Wrong. You made that up because you lose so much the other way
you're trying to learn a better way to feed your addiction. I
wouldn't be surprised if you weren't playing my way as I write!

(and

of course, making the poor wife do the same).

You really have been drinking. When you sober up could you try this
again. Remember I'm the one who has simulated your system and found
that around 1% could have the results you claim.

The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
> starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt again. Come
on
> Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't you?

Silence is golden.

>
> > tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> > a sideshow.
>
> Just let me know when you want to play. However, let's make it

20K

> each.

I'll play you right now even before my foot operation. $20k each--
bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet where if I

produce

the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k.

Did I call it? Of course. I made a challenge and Robbie starts
scrambling. Come on chicken boy, accept it or not, I don't really
care. Of course, we all know the scrambling will continue.

>
> > Back then we called you fairies chicken. Today, from the
> > safety of hiding behind your computer, your just a plain

coward.

> > Imagine the introverted nerd you'd have REALLY been had they

had

> > computers when you were wasting time playing with your tinker
toys,
> > your sliderule, and your weeny! Oh, this is too good!! Somebody
> hold
> > me up!!!!!!!!!
>
> Come on techno-weenie, admit you were the victim. Your babbling
here
> is almost complete admission. ROTFLMAO. Whew ... this is great!

Yup. Victim. Special Unit. (whatever that means).

ROTFLMAO. Have another drink moron.

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > Some people are addicted to exercise, some people are

addicted

to
> > > work, some people are addicted to sex. The problem is not
finding
> out
> > >who is addicted to what. The problem is determining if the
> addiction
> > >is creating problems for them.
> >
> > Denial creates justification. Where's your supporting
> > evidence/documentation for that nonsense? You're big on that,

so

> let's
> > see it. Your words even admit you know you have a gambling
> addiction--
> > just as I've said all along.
>
> I gave you some websites previously. You ignored them. Start here.
>
> http://www.ncpgambling.org/
>
> Note that they talk about "problem gambling" rather than
addiction.
> You see "my words" actually indicate I know what I'm talking
about.
> If you really wanted to know the truth you would have read some

of

> this information when I challenged you previously. Clearly, you
> weren't interested in the TRUTH then, and I suspect you're not
> interested in the TRUTH now.

Should I have expcted anything other than this?

The TRUTH? Yes, you should have expected it.

All you're doing, as
a genuine addict who has a real-life problem with gambling, is
identifying to the world that you constantly WONDER about your

issue

with gambling by researching it and studying what it's all about,

Nope. "All" I'm doing is presenting facts. You should try it sometime.

and that alone constitutes a verifiable problem. Further, you say
you have children and grandchildren somewhere other than in LV. If
that's the case--and I hope it isn't for your and their sake--you
place gambling far above your relationship with them. I know if it
were me in a family who were both retired, I'd fly or drive off AT
LEAST once a month to be with them. You show you value video poker
much greater than any living being.

I guess Robbie decided no to ignore the facts once again. I gave him
a chance to get educated and he runs away like a wounded puppy.

>
> Try taking the self-test. Note that there are no questions
> about "quantity of gambling". Many of the uninformed (like
yourself)
> can only equate quantity of gambling to addiction. This has
nothing
> to do with problem gambling. My opinion? No. "The frequency of a
> person's gambling does not determine whether or not they have a
> gambling problem". This is directly from the website above.
>
> Now, let's hear some more words of wisdom from Robbie, an
uninformed idiot.

You continue to develop confidence-building scenarios as you stuff
that foot deeper and deeper into your mouth. How do you think all
this would sound if we were discussing it on the radio--"I moved to
LV so I could play video poker every day, I dragged my poor wife
into the gutter along with me, we just can't leave town more than
once every 3 months to visit family--and even then we stop at

Indian

casinos every opportunity that arises, I'm not addicted though
because I found an obscure article that can be construed if read
with a liberal mind, as saying no one ever is addicted to gambling.
Besides, I don't gamble anyway. I'm an "ADVANTAGE player"! God save
this guy from himself.

Lot's of words. No information. Sorry, Robbie, you just said
absolutely nothing. And, it took you a lot of typing. Now, go read up
on gambling problems so you can at avoid looking like an even bigger
fool than you do right now.

PS. That "obscure article" is from the National Council on Problem
Gambling. In case you're wondering, the search that led me to that
website came up with 151,000 hits that say pretty much the same
thing. You sure do know how to look stupid.

>
> >
> > Addictions to anything are negative influences and you know it.
>
> I love it when you are so completely wrong.

And I love it when you are stopped cold with the facts.

Produce just ONE supported fact and I would be amazed.

>
> > It's
> > not IF one can determine a problem exists, it's WHEN. All

you're

> trying
> > to do is underhandedly tell Rastis you make money gambling so
> therefore
> > it's not a problem.
>
> That's clearly a major part of it. By far, the majority of
problems
> that result from gambling are due to losing money. If you still
don't
> understand this maybe I need to give you some more references.
Now,
> if you want to use me as an example, fine. Before I understood
> anything about advantage play my wife and I averaged about 1
gambling
> trip a year and set aside a predefined amount that we would lose.
We
> did this for 20+ years. We never lost all that money on a single
> trip. Why? We understood the potential problem areas upfront.
Still
> do.

La la la la la la la la la la....

Sounds about right for Robbie. I can just picture him with his hands
over his ears not wanting to hear the truth.

On and on with the self-
justifications and how you are one of the few exceptions to losing
play. You don't see it do you. Here's a challenge. Take a 6 month
retreat up in that shack in Minnesota where you don't go to that
biased Indian casino, and do nothing but enjoy life and have family
visit. See if you can do it.

I do it all Robbie. I have family visits, I enjoy life and I gamble.
Tell me the last time you went 6 months without gambling?

> > You play all the time, you pound away at similar
> > machines, and just like Dancer & The Queen you use all your
comps
> to
> > cover your losses and make believe you have a winning year.
>
> Lie. I don't include comps in my winnings. Cash only. Last year
that
> was over $17K. Not a lot, but then again, I don't risk a lot. I
> really shouldn't claim that as a total because I pay taxes on
those
> winnings and the W2Gs we receive reduce some of our other
exemptions.

And would you ever be able to post that you lost?

I lost one year in the last 5 years since I have been keeping records
and was only slightly ahead one other. Of course, I didn't have much
of an edge before I moved out to LV. It turns out that I should only
win 60% of the time with the small edge I had. I won two out of
three. Amazing how my simulations and real life track over time.

That's where the
rubber hits the road, not all your make-believe prowess and then
marginalizing what you do with it. The only difference between
Dancer/Scott and yourself is they have something to lose by putting
up negative numbers in public.

Just like you.

>
> > Therefore
> > it's not a problem. One of the more acute problems addictions
> create--
> > whether it's exercize, shopping, video poker, working, or
anything--
> is
> > collateral damage over the life of the addiction.
>
> Now you're starting to get the picture. Addiction itself is not a
> problem. It's only when an addiction leads to other PROBLEMS. Now
do
> you understand why they call it "Problem Gambling"?

And you would readily tell of your 'other problems' created by
gambling?

If I had any problems caused by gambling I would admit them. I've
explained this to you before. The biggest downswing I've ever had is
around $6K. That does not create any problems. I also golf, bowl,
workout, go to movies, watch too much TV, etc. etc. It's your
constant denial that APers are successful that leads you to
fantasizing about how you'd like my life to be.

I don't think so, in fact, you won't even see the simple
ones: Unhealthy atmosphere to spend so many hours within/waste of
life/disrespecting your spouse by dragging her along with you. And
those aren't even touching the surface.

You wish. Sorry, moron, you are out in left field. You make these
idiotic claims without knowing a thing about me. To top it all off
you show the world you are a complete fool by denying the TRUTH about
addiction after I gave you a perfect reference.

···

>
> > Others are affected.
> > Too much work = ignoring those close to you. Too much exercize

=

> > looking a little too freaky. Too much shopping = too much
> meaningless
> > stuff.
>
> That's right. However, these problems do not exist 100% of the
time.
>
> > Too much video poker = time away from healthier activities,
> > family, and spending too much time in very unhealthy
environments.
>
> Please show evidence to support this claim. Compare it to the
> environment in the Phoenix area so we can see if it's worse than
your day to day environment.

Easy stuff. When you're off to the locals joints every day for
hours, I'm jogging (or walking until the foot is repaired), I'm
watching our daughter's little girl, working on the landscaping of
both our yards, working on restoring my old muscle car, and

counting

my money won from playing not 2 hours of video poker last week,

when

I came home with another $10,800 profit on $16,500 in W2G's. And

all

this is done on a daily basis without sufferring thru LV-like
gridlock traffic, in a wide open area north of the city. Now if I
were still in my long-term strategy mode of 1990-1996, I'd be going
back and forth to Nevada playing for 6-10 or more hours a day
thinking that I could beat the computers one-on-one.

I said PROOF. Please show an environmental comparison between the air
in the Phoenix area and that in a Las Vegas casino. Otherwise, you
simply show you know nothing about what you are saying.

>
> > In
> > your case you try to make believe no negative exists, because
you
> > turned your wife into the same type of addict you are, you're
not
> > interested in anything else in life, and you for some sick
> reasoning
> > think discovering AP video poker is the crowning achievement in
an
> > otherwise insignificant career.
> >
> > Denial creates justification.....
>
> Knowledge avoids the pitfalls of looking like a fool. Now that
you've
> been educated I expect more intelligent responses in the future.

You've shown no knowledge here--only how you'd like it to be so

that

you won't be classified as a problem gambler.

Still denying the facts even after I showed an undeniable reference.
It doesn't get any better than this. LMAO, as always.

[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > > > > > Now I've got him talking to himself!
> > > > >
> > > > > > I do talk to myself sometimes. Sometimes to stubborn

VP

> > > machines
> > > > as
> > > > > > well. I find both situations to be much more
> intellectually
> > > > > stimulating than talking to the monkey boy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who's the guy that said you have no hypocracy?? Oh yes,

I

> think
> > > it
> > > > was
> > > > > one of your TWO or THREE fans in this world! Let's

see....I

> > have
> > > > 6164
> > > > > that I know of who get my e-newsletter. You're talking

to

> the
> > > right
> > > > > person if you're trying to join the vp in-crowd.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder how many of them do it for the laughs.
> > >
> > > Plenty. That's especially evident (and nice) when they read

of

> your
> > > humiliation in last week's column.
> >
> > Sorry, moron, I don't read GT. Never have.
>
> Are you kidding!

No.

You've read my articles many times over on my site, which is the
same as reading them in GT. Liar.

> > > I have ample replies from many of
> > > those whom you believe you've mesmerized with your trying to
> belong
> > > on Internet forums, to know that you're the present laughing
> stock
> > of
> > > Las Vagas--the town you thought you could move to and act

like

a
> > > biggie in who doesn't gamble--but plays video poker for

hours

> every
> > > day.
> >
> > Sure there are. I can always tell when you make these things

up.

> You
> > really should get a real life and leave the fantasy world you
seem
> to
> > live in daily.
>
> Hmmmm....This kind of bothers you, doesn't it. Oh well, I LOVE

IT!!

You living in a fastasy world? Doesn't bother me, but you really
should to get a life.

Got a life, and from the constant look of things, one in which you
are extremely jealous of. Come to think of it, what addict wouldn't
be??

> >
> > >
> > > > However, we all know "there's a sucker born every day". I
> believe
> > > > there are lots of folks out there who believe Robs' lies
(look
> at
> > > the number of people who still think VP is controlled

through a

> > > switch in the backroom).
> > >
> > > Let's have some facts on those assertions, Mr. Geek.
> > > 1. Name the sucker who was born today.
> >
> > Silly question.
>
> You asked for it!

No I didn't. However, I do get inane responses from you quite

often.

Yes you did. Re-read your assertion and then see how foolish it was
and you are.

> >
> > > 2. Name my lies, and support them with data.
> >
> > Not enough space.
>
> Translation: You can't keep up with how many times you lie about

my

> lying.

I don't try to keep up with your lying. That would be a full time

job.

Re-read what I said. It has nothing to do with fictitious lies told
by me. At first glance one would think your reading is attrocious,
but upon further thought it's very evident just how rattled you
really are here. You kinda bit off a little more than you can chew
again, hey??

> >
> > > 3. Name those who you say believe those lies.
> >
> > Sounds like somewhere between 1-6164. Look at your

distribution

> list for the names.
>
> Re-read the direction genius.

Not necesaary. I already answered the question.

No you didn't genius. I said "name those" you wishy-washed without
an answer (big surprise) and I called you on it.

> >
> > > 4. Name the number of people who think VP is controlled by a
> switch.
> >
> > If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess you are
beyond
> > hope. You should get out once in awhile.
>
> Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now support it.

No, I asserted a common well known situation. I stand by my answer.

You bumbled through your usual made up nonsense, which is why you
aren.t able to respond to this one either. Again, support your 'well
known situation' which doesn't exist.

Now, tell me you never heard this remark EVER in a casino, Mr.

Guru.

Never. Ever. Remember, I don't hang around the degenerates and
idiots you do as you play your so-called advantage vp.

> >
> > > 5. Name them.
> >
> > Not enough space.
>
> Maybe you'd better quit while you're behind.....

OK, try Hazel for starters.

First it's 'OK (I'll quit while behind), then it's Hazel? You're so
confused you couldn't even hold a high pair here if it looked you in
the eye!

> >
> > >
> > > Kevin Trudeau is making millions using pseudo-medical
> > > > scam which is pretty much the exact same approach as

Singer.

> Rob,
> > > you are a small con man in comparison. If you think that
> claiming
> > > 6164 morons exist in the world is big news, think again.
There's
> a
> > > lot more.
> > >
> > > Who's Kevin Trudeau? Does he make money off of people like
> Dancer,
> > > Paymar, Scott, Hughes, and the rest? If so and he has a

scam,

> then
> > > they're morons. Right now you seem to be the only moron
posting.
> > It's
> > > not everyday a wannabee tries his heart out to 'belong' and
just
> > > can't make it.
> >
> > Just the fact you can't figure out who Trudeau is is plenty of
> > evidence you are a complete moron. In fact, if you are now
> claiming
> > that you believe no one thinks VP is controlled by a switch in
the
> > back room, there's even more evidence.
>
> I don't care who your hero is nor do I even wonder about that
switch
> thing you made up. You go agonize over that meaningless stuff in
> your own little introvert world and you'll be just fine.

Can't figure it out, can you? You know, if you want to be

considered

a guru at VP you really should get out once in awhile and see

what's

going on.

So let's get this right: Gurus MUST know this trudeau hero of yours,
and they MUST have heard someone talk about the famous switch in a
casino. Are you sure you're operating within your limitations?

> >
> > PS. I don't "belong" or care to "belong" to whatever your
> imagination thinks there is to "belong" to.
>
> Don't sweat it.

I won't

Because you wouldn't know why you'd do it.

>
> On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you want to be
> known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.
>
> That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your nonsensical
> self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't even get a

write-

> in vote!

A self-proclaimed guru who doesn't have any idea that a large

number

of the VP gambling poplution thinks the machines are controlled
externally. To state you're a guru while showing your complete
ignorance of VP is one BIG laugh. You sure do know how to look
foolish.

That's one grand qualification! I can't imagine what my students
would say if I told them I was that astute. Then just maybe, those
whom i train never heard of it either, and it's just another one of
those make believe 'AP' stories that float around the local casinos
making stops at each and every addict's machine daily. You must see
a lot of it.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do I own this old buzzard or WHAT!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Strange remark from a 56 year old buzzard himself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's look at that a bit. I'm in perfect shape - check

it

> out
> > on
> > > my
> > > > > videos - except for my foot, which will be repaired

within

4
> > > > months.
> > > > > I've seen your picture also.
> > > > > You're what they call a 'pot-bellied pig".
> > > >
> > > > Lie. But, you could have seen me in person if you had the
guts
> to
> > > > follow through on the tennis/bowling matches. But no, you
were
> > > afraid to face me. I think that pretty much sums up
> your "perfect
> > > shape". You're afraid to face someone you call a "pot-

bellied

> pig".
> > >
> > > Not a lie at all--now you're denying how pitiful you look at
60.
> My
> > > guess is
> >
> > You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you
> are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your lies for two
> days.
>
> You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a picture.

Who

> would keep such a horrid thing??

OK, tell us where you got said picture. This ought to be fun

seeing

Robbie scamble for an answer.

I actually saw 2--one older one from IBM in Rochester, the other a
more recent gem from a security shot at the Edgewater.

> >
> > > you've been struggling with weight all your life, which only
> > > goes to support your introvert label. Too late on trying to
save
> > face
> > > on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the many

times

> I've
> > > tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in public print
> now.
> >
> > I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it. Then I can
add
> > several items to the Lie list above.
>
> BIG lie. Miussin accomplished.

No, I suspect your article contains several small lies. In fact,

I'd

bet on it and I'd bet I could prove it.

Name the bet!

> >
> > > Next time you want to make a fool of yourself, try to do it
> > privately
> > > with me. You'll save yourself a whole lot of embarrassment.
> >
> > Let me know when the embarrassment begins. I really find it
> humorous
> > that you think your little coulmn could have any influence on

me

> (or
> > anyone for that matter). Part of that monkey boy influence?

You

> must
> > be starting to believe your own hype.
>
> Just the fact that you keep talking to it dictates how you've

been

> ticked off by it. Just keep on denying. I get a laugh every time.

"Talking to it"? Are you drinking already?

My 2-a-day of premium JD Single Barrel commences at 7pm sharp.

> >
> > >
> > > > > >We all know you'd
> > > > > > like us to think you were much younger. Your 3rd grade
> taunts
> > > are
> > > > > > evidence of that (Note: I apologize to all above

average

> 3rd
> > > > graders
> > > > > > who may be insulted by this comparison).
> > > > >
> > > > > I was thinking more in terms of 10th grade taunts.

That's

> when
> > us
> > > > guys
> > > > > used to pull down the pants of the nerds in front of the
> girls.
> > > > What I
> > > > > do to you here has the same effect except with a bonus--

you

> > have
> > > no
> > > > > hope for the future now.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, that would still be 3rd grade intellect in a 10th
grade
> > > moron.
> > > > But, it fits you well. You still have the (below average)

3rd

> > grade
> > > > intellect but now it's in a 56 year old moron.
> > >
> > > ....As I crack the whip again. Remember the bonus: You have

no

> hope
> > > for the future.
> >
> > Got you there, didn't I? This "crack the whip" nonsense is
> > demonstrating you have nothing intelligent (or otherwise) to

say.

> > LMAO.
>
> OK. Then just keep doing as I direct you to!

Dream on, monkey boy. Tell us again what a guru you are. We all

need

another good laugh.

I'm a good guru.

> >
> > > >
> > > > Now, let me think ... how many times has Robbie mentioned

the

> > > pulling
> > > > down pants story? ... 10 ... 20 ... more? ... Why would

this

> > stick
> > > > with someone for so long? ... 40+ years ... I can only

think

> of
> > two
> > > > reasons. 1) It was the last time anyone paid any attention

to

> > > > them ... 2) They were the victim. Which is it Robbie?
> > >
> > > It comes up with you because no one more than you reminds me

in

> > > actions or looks of the nerds we used to belittle.
> >
> > Of course little man. LMAO.
> >
> > > Of course they
> > > weren't fat then and you probably weren't either. Nerds tend

to

> put
> > > on all that weight from sitting around doing geeky things
alone.
> >
> > Let's see that picture, moron. What? Another lie? You really
don't
> > have a picture? LMAO again.
>
> Now your REALLY getting worried! What's the matter fat boy--

afraid

> I'll put it up on my site? Or in the paper with my next ridicule

of

> you?? HAHAHA!! Keep on making your stomach acid gurgle!

I'm not the least bit afraid.

Have I mentioned dicky the denyer lately?

Of course, we all know this is another

lie. Come on, monkey boy. Back up your newest fantasy claim or

admit

you are, once again, lying.

Back up what--that I saw a few pics of you (one with the missus)?
OK, I swear it.

> >
> > > Like
> > > you do with hours of vp all the time. And they never fought
back
> > > either---kinda like you being afraid to ever face me for a

live

> > > debate on the radio to prove you lie, at casinos to prove I

win

> > when
> > > you say it's not possible,
> >
> > Lie. I'm one of the few people who have said it is possible
> (albeit 1
> > in 100).
>
> Wrong. You made that up because you lose so much the other way
> you're trying to learn a better way to feed your addiction. I
> wouldn't be surprised if you weren't playing my way as I write!
(and
> of course, making the poor wife do the same).

You really have been drinking. When you sober up could you try

this

again. Remember I'm the one who has simulated your system and

found

that around 1% could have the results you claim.

You simulated something not even close to how I play. But I'm
betting you ran off with it and tried to be the 1 of 100 to win.

>
> The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
> > starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt again.

Come

> on
> > Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't you?

Silence is golden.

No, golden showers are golden. Get with it.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> >
> > > tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> > > a sideshow.
> >
> > Just let me know when you want to play. However, let's make it
20K
> > each.
>
> I'll play you right now even before my foot operation. $20k each-

-

> bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet where if I
produce
> the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k.

Did I call it? Of course. I made a challenge and Robbie starts
scrambling. Come on chicken boy, accept it or not, I don't really
care. Of course, we all know the scrambling will continue.

Did you read above yet? Or maybe you were too terrified to see it in
print? Set them up and I'll be there. Your tennis and the wimpy
bowling (why i don't know) and the radio appearance where you will
re-assert how it is that I haven't the docs you claim I don't.
That's the simple one for a declining old man like you. Go for it--
the trifecta. Anything else constitutes fraud....anbd one of your
famous escape clauses.

> >
> > > Back then we called you fairies chicken. Today, from the
> > > safety of hiding behind your computer, your just a plain
coward.
> > > Imagine the introverted nerd you'd have REALLY been had they
had
> > > computers when you were wasting time playing with your

tinker

> toys,
> > > your sliderule, and your weeny! Oh, this is too good!!

Somebody

> > hold
> > > me up!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Come on techno-weenie, admit you were the victim. Your

babbling

> here
> > is almost complete admission. ROTFLMAO. Whew ... this is great!
>
> Yup. Victim. Special Unit. (whatever that means).

ROTFLMAO. Have another drink moron.

7pm. sharp. Of course, you'll probably be taking the missus out to a
beautiful Sam's Town buffet at that time along with every other out-
of-shape degenerate gambler in town. But that's you.

[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > > Some people are addicted to exercise, some people are
addicted
> to
> > > > work, some people are addicted to sex. The problem is not
> finding
> > out
> > > >who is addicted to what. The problem is determining if the
> > addiction
> > > >is creating problems for them.
> > >
> > > Denial creates justification. Where's your supporting
> > > evidence/documentation for that nonsense? You're big on

that,

so
> > let's
> > > see it. Your words even admit you know you have a gambling
> > addiction--
> > > just as I've said all along.
> >
> > I gave you some websites previously. You ignored them. Start

here.

> >
> > http://www.ncpgambling.org/
> >
> > Note that they talk about "problem gambling" rather than
> addiction.
> > You see "my words" actually indicate I know what I'm talking
> about.
> > If you really wanted to know the truth you would have read

some

of
> > this information when I challenged you previously. Clearly,

you

> > weren't interested in the TRUTH then, and I suspect you're not
> > interested in the TRUTH now.
>
> Should I have expcted anything other than this?

The TRUTH? Yes, you should have expected it.

Truth? Why, because there's a scenario in there that gets you off
the self-incriminating hook?

> All you're doing, as
> a genuine addict who has a real-life problem with gambling, is
> identifying to the world that you constantly WONDER about your
issue
> with gambling by researching it and studying what it's all about,

Nope. "All" I'm doing is presenting facts. You should try it

sometime.

What facts. You search all the time for rationale that'll help
explain away your troubles. That's the first fact you need to face.

> and that alone constitutes a verifiable problem. Further, you

say

> you have children and grandchildren somewhere other than in LV.

If

> that's the case--and I hope it isn't for your and their sake--

you

> place gambling far above your relationship with them. I know if

it

> were me in a family who were both retired, I'd fly or drive off

AT

> LEAST once a month to be with them. You show you value video

poker

> much greater than any living being.

I guess Robbie decided no to ignore the facts once again. I gave

him

a chance to get educated and he runs away like a wounded puppy.

And that says WHAT about your shameless ignorance towards your
family??

> >
> > Try taking the self-test. Note that there are no questions
> > about "quantity of gambling". Many of the uninformed (like
> yourself)
> > can only equate quantity of gambling to addiction. This has
> nothing
> > to do with problem gambling. My opinion? No. "The frequency of

a

> > person's gambling does not determine whether or not they have

a

> > gambling problem". This is directly from the website above.
> >
> > Now, let's hear some more words of wisdom from Robbie, an
> uninformed idiot.
>
> You continue to develop confidence-building scenarios as you

stuff

> that foot deeper and deeper into your mouth. How do you think

all

> this would sound if we were discussing it on the radio--"I moved

to

> LV so I could play video poker every day, I dragged my poor wife
> into the gutter along with me, we just can't leave town more

than

> once every 3 months to visit family--and even then we stop at
Indian
> casinos every opportunity that arises, I'm not addicted though
> because I found an obscure article that can be construed if read
> with a liberal mind, as saying no one ever is addicted to

gambling.

> Besides, I don't gamble anyway. I'm an "ADVANTAGE player"! God

save

> this guy from himself.

Lot's of words. No information. Sorry, Robbie, you just said
absolutely nothing. And, it took you a lot of typing. Now, go read

up

on gambling problems so you can at avoid looking like an even

bigger

fool than you do right now.

Apparently, lots of TOUGH TO READ words to you. Why else would you
squirm away like that?

PS. That "obscure article" is from the National Council on Problem
Gambling. In case you're wondering, the search that led me to that
website came up with 151,000 hits that say pretty much the same
thing. You sure do know how to look stupid.

Oh really. Did you watch the chairman of that group come on Fox the
other night and say how deeply rooted the real problems are among
those who live in gambling town, LAS VEGAS ESPECIALLY!? Get your
made-up facts straight and watch TV for a change before making a
fool of yourself here again.

> >
> > >
> > > Addictions to anything are negative influences and you know

it.

> >
> > I love it when you are so completely wrong.
>
> And I love it when you are stopped cold with the facts.

Produce just ONE supported fact and I would be amazed.

Fact: You're a pathological gambling addict.

> >
> > > It's
> > > not IF one can determine a problem exists, it's WHEN. All
you're
> > trying
> > > to do is underhandedly tell Rastis you make money gambling

so

> > therefore
> > > it's not a problem.
> >
> > That's clearly a major part of it. By far, the majority of
> problems
> > that result from gambling are due to losing money. If you

still

> don't
> > understand this maybe I need to give you some more references.
> Now,
> > if you want to use me as an example, fine. Before I understood
> > anything about advantage play my wife and I averaged about 1
> gambling
> > trip a year and set aside a predefined amount that we would

lose.

> We
> > did this for 20+ years. We never lost all that money on a

single

> > trip. Why? We understood the potential problem areas upfront.
> Still
> > do.
>
> La la la la la la la la la la....

Sounds about right for Robbie. I can just picture him with his

hands

over his ears not wanting to hear the truth.

What I tend to ignore is your continued justifications for what you
do. A sick mind is corrupted even further, and that's exactly where
you proudly are today.

> On and on with the self-
> justifications and how you are one of the few exceptions to

losing

> play. You don't see it do you. Here's a challenge. Take a 6

month

> retreat up in that shack in Minnesota where you don't go to that
> biased Indian casino, and do nothing but enjoy life and have

family

> visit. See if you can do it.

I do it all Robbie. I have family visits, I enjoy life and I

gamble.

Tell me the last time you went 6 months without gambling?

Gee, I don't gamble. i only play with an edge.

The only thing you enjoy is your anticipatory rides to the casinos.
The rest--including family--is noise to you. If it weren't, you'd
have never gotten your poor wife involved in such a vice.

> > > You play all the time, you pound away at similar
> > > machines, and just like Dancer & The Queen you use all your
> comps
> > to
> > > cover your losses and make believe you have a winning year.
> >
> > Lie. I don't include comps in my winnings. Cash only. Last

year

> that
> > was over $17K. Not a lot, but then again, I don't risk a lot.

I

> > really shouldn't claim that as a total because I pay taxes on
> those
> > winnings and the W2Gs we receive reduce some of our other
> exemptions.
>
> And would you ever be able to post that you lost?

I lost one year in the last 5 years since I have been keeping

records

and was only slightly ahead one other. Of course, I didn't have

much

of an edge before I moved out to LV. It turns out that I should

only

win 60% of the time with the small edge I had. I won two out of
three. Amazing how my simulations and real life track over time.

Oops! You had to post that didn't you. Do I own you or WHAT?!!

> That's where the
> rubber hits the road, not all your make-believe prowess and then
> marginalizing what you do with it. The only difference between
> Dancer/Scott and yourself is they have something to lose by

putting

> up negative numbers in public.

Just like you.

I have nothing to lose. In fact, I'm the only one alive who's ever
told the truth about losing for 6 years. No go back to the
theoretical drawing board.

> >
> > > Therefore
> > > it's not a problem. One of the more acute problems

addictions

> > create--
> > > whether it's exercize, shopping, video poker, working, or
> anything--
> > is
> > > collateral damage over the life of the addiction.
> >
> > Now you're starting to get the picture. Addiction itself is

not a

> > problem. It's only when an addiction leads to other PROBLEMS.

Now

> do
> > you understand why they call it "Problem Gambling"?
>
> And you would readily tell of your 'other problems' created by
> gambling?

If I had any problems caused by gambling I would admit them.

Of COURSE you would. Dicky the denyer?

I've

explained this to you before. The biggest downswing I've ever had

is

around $6K. That does not create any problems. I also golf, bowl,
workout, go to movies, watch too much TV, etc. etc. It's your
constant denial that APers are successful that leads you to
fantasizing about how you'd like my life to be.

La la la la la la----music to your ears and no one elses. Lies are
mounting and you're looking dumber all the time. Please keep it up!

> I don't think so, in fact, you won't even see the simple
> ones: Unhealthy atmosphere to spend so many hours within/waste

of

> life/disrespecting your spouse by dragging her along with you.

And

> those aren't even touching the surface.

You wish. Sorry, moron, you are out in left field. You make these
idiotic claims without knowing a thing about me. To top it all off
you show the world you are a complete fool by denying the TRUTH

about

addiction after I gave you a perfect reference.

Now total denial. Have you no shame? And all those words to boot!
Guess who's a little perturbed!

> >
> > > Others are affected.
> > > Too much work = ignoring those close to you. Too much

exercize

=
> > > looking a little too freaky. Too much shopping = too much
> > meaningless
> > > stuff.
> >
> > That's right. However, these problems do not exist 100% of the
> time.
> >
> > > Too much video poker = time away from healthier activities,
> > > family, and spending too much time in very unhealthy
> environments.
> >
> > Please show evidence to support this claim. Compare it to the
> > environment in the Phoenix area so we can see if it's worse

than

> your day to day environment.
>
> Easy stuff. When you're off to the locals joints every day for
> hours, I'm jogging (or walking until the foot is repaired), I'm
> watching our daughter's little girl, working on the landscaping

of

> both our yards, working on restoring my old muscle car, and
counting
> my money won from playing not 2 hours of video poker last week,
when
> I came home with another $10,800 profit on $16,500 in W2G's. And
all
> this is done on a daily basis without sufferring thru LV-like
> gridlock traffic, in a wide open area north of the city. Now if

I

> were still in my long-term strategy mode of 1990-1996, I'd be

going

> back and forth to Nevada playing for 6-10 or more hours a day
> thinking that I could beat the computers one-on-one.

I said PROOF. Please show an environmental comparison between the

air

in the Phoenix area and that in a Las Vegas casino. Otherwise, you
simply show you know nothing about what you are saying.

Oh the air in the Indian casinos over here is every bit as stale,
stagnant and unhealthy as the air in the local joints you hang out
at over there. Outside, I have no idea.

> >
> > > In
> > > your case you try to make believe no negative exists,

because

> you
> > > turned your wife into the same type of addict you are,

you're

> not
> > > interested in anything else in life, and you for some sick
> > reasoning
> > > think discovering AP video poker is the crowning achievement

in

> an
> > > otherwise insignificant career.
> > >
> > > Denial creates justification.....
> >
> > Knowledge avoids the pitfalls of looking like a fool. Now that
> you've
> > been educated I expect more intelligent responses in the

future.

>
> You've shown no knowledge here--only how you'd like it to be so
that
> you won't be classified as a problem gambler.

Still denying the facts even after I showed an undeniable

reference.

It doesn't get any better than this. LMAO, as always.

I see you deleted some of the more poignant issues and words. Keep
it up!

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[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > Sorry, moron, I don't read GT. Never have.
> >
> > Are you kidding!
>
> No.

You've read my articles many times over on my site, which is the
same as reading them in GT. Liar.

Nope. I think I went to your site one time when I was building the
simulator and wanted to get a better description of your progressive
system. On the other hand, you keep copying your idiotic articles to
this forum where I get to see them if I want to or not.

>
> > > > I have ample replies from many of
> > > > those whom you believe you've mesmerized with your trying

to

> > belong
> > > > on Internet forums, to know that you're the present

laughing

> > stock
> > > of
> > > > Las Vagas--the town you thought you could move to and act
like
> a
> > > > biggie in who doesn't gamble--but plays video poker for
hours
> > every
> > > > day.
> > >
> > > Sure there are. I can always tell when you make these things
up.
> > You
> > > really should get a real life and leave the fantasy world you
> seem
> > to
> > > live in daily.
> >
> > Hmmmm....This kind of bothers you, doesn't it. Oh well, I LOVE
IT!!
>
> You living in a fastasy world? Doesn't bother me, but you really
> should to get a life.

Got a life, and from the constant look of things, one in which you
are extremely jealous of. Come to think of it, what addict wouldn't
be??

The life of a liar and a fraud? A person who fantasizes about being
something he can never be, a VP guru? I think I'll pass.

> > You asked for it!
>
> No I didn't. However, I do get inane responses from you quite
often.

Yes you did.

I know.

>
> > >
> > > > 2. Name my lies, and support them with data.
> > >
> > > Not enough space.
> >
> > Translation: You can't keep up with how many times you lie

about

my
> > lying.
>
> I don't try to keep up with your lying. That would be a full time
job.

Re-read what I said.

Don't have to. Note that I specifically said "... keep up with your
lying". I did that to remove ALL ambiguity. Only a very slow person
with cat litter for brains couldn't figure that one out.

> > > > 4. Name the number of people who think VP is controlled by a

> > switch.
> > >
> > > If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess you are
> beyond
> > > hope. You should get out once in awhile.
> >
> > Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now support it.
>
> No, I asserted a common well known situation. I stand by my

answer.

You bumbled through your usual made up nonsense, which is why you
aren.t able to respond to this one either. Again, support

your 'well

known situation' which doesn't exist.

I leave it to the readers to determine whether they believe my
assertion or not. I'm very compfortable with that because I know that
anyone who has spent anytime in a casino has heard it before.

"When are they going to loosen 'em up?"
"Boy are these machines tight"
"You think they could let us win once in while"

The fact that you express doubt about this shows you lack any
understanding of a typical casino environment. No wonder everyone
laughs when you state you are some kind of guru.

> Now, tell me you never heard this remark EVER in a casino, Mr.
Guru.
>

Never. Ever. Remember, I don't hang around the degenerates and
idiots you do as you play your so-called advantage vp.

Sorry, but none of these individuals would be considered an AP. I
love it when you show display your complete ignorance.

First it's 'OK (I'll quit while behind), then it's Hazel? You're so
confused you couldn't even hold a high pair here if it looked you

in

the eye!

I didn't know high pairs had the ability to "look". Must be something
that happens in one of your fantasies. You know, the same ones where
you are perceived as a VP guru.

> > > Just the fact you can't figure out who Trudeau is is plenty

of

> > > evidence you are a complete moron. In fact, if you are now
> > claiming
> > > that you believe no one thinks VP is controlled by a switch

in

> the
> > > back room, there's even more evidence.
> >
> > I don't care who your hero is nor do I even wonder about that
> switch
> > thing you made up. You go agonize over that meaningless stuff

in

> > your own little introvert world and you'll be just fine.
>
> Can't figure it out, can you? You know, if you want to be
considered
> a guru at VP you really should get out once in awhile and see
what's
> going on.

So let's get this right: Gurus MUST know this trudeau hero of

yours,

Trudeau is a con man just like you and try to stay up with the
conversation. I was referring to the mythical "switch", moron.

and they MUST have heard someone talk about the famous switch in a
casino. Are you sure you're operating within your limitations?

Keep it up. I love it when you make a complete fool of yourself and
have no clue while you're doing it.

> > On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you want to

be

> > known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.
> >
> > That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your

nonsensical

> > self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't even get a
write-
> > in vote!
>
> A self-proclaimed guru who doesn't have any idea that a large
number
> of the VP gambling poplution thinks the machines are controlled
> externally. To state you're a guru while showing your complete
> ignorance of VP is one BIG laugh. You sure do know how to look
> foolish.

That's one grand qualification! I can't imagine what my students
would say if I told them I was that astute. Then just maybe, those
whom i train never heard of it either, and it's just another one of
those make believe 'AP' stories that float around the local casinos
making stops at each and every addict's machine daily. You must see
a lot of it.

ROTFLMAO. This is toooooooo good to be true. You keep digging
yourself in deeper.

> > > You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you
> > are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your lies for

two

> > days.
> >
> > You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a picture.
Who
> > would keep such a horrid thing??
>
> OK, tell us where you got said picture. This ought to be fun
seeing
> Robbie scamble for an answer.

I actually saw 2--one older one from IBM in Rochester, the other a
more recent gem from a security shot at the Edgewater.

Sure you did. Please give the dates of the photos ... just in case
you're making this up.

>
> > >
> > > > you've been struggling with weight all your life, which

only

> > > > goes to support your introvert label. Too late on trying to
> save
> > > face
> > > > on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the many
times
> > I've
> > > > tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in public

print

> > now.
> > >
> > > I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it. Then I

can

> add
> > > several items to the Lie list above.
> >
> > BIG lie. Miussin accomplished.
>
> No, I suspect your article contains several small lies. In fact,
I'd
> bet on it and I'd bet I could prove it.

Name the bet!

I haven't read the article yet. Send it to me and I'll list all the
lies for you to think about. At that time we can bet $1000 on each
lie I list. If I prove it's a lie you pay, if I don't I pay.

> > Just the fact that you keep talking to it dictates how you've
been
> > ticked off by it. Just keep on denying. I get a laugh every

time.

>
> "Talking to it"? Are you drinking already?

My 2-a-day of premium JD Single Barrel commences at 7pm sharp.

Sounded more like 7AM.

> > > Got you there, didn't I? This "crack the whip" nonsense is
> > > demonstrating you have nothing intelligent (or otherwise) to
say.
> > > LMAO.
> >
> > OK. Then just keep doing as I direct you to!
>
> Dream on, monkey boy. Tell us again what a guru you are. We all
need
> another good laugh.

I'm a good guru.

Is that like a good fairy? ... With cat liter for brains.

Of course, we all know this is another
> lie. Come on, monkey boy. Back up your newest fantasy claim or
admit
> you are, once again, lying.

Back up what--that I saw a few pics of you (one with the missus)?
OK, I swear it.

I suppose you're going to tell us she's fat too. Come on, let's hear
the dates. I'll accept your assertion if you can provide the dates.
If I don't see any dates then all anyone can assume is that you are
lying.

>
> > >
> > > > Like
> > > > you do with hours of vp all the time. And they never fought
> back
> > > > either---kinda like you being afraid to ever face me for a
live
> > > > debate on the radio to prove you lie, at casinos to prove I
win
> > > when
> > > > you say it's not possible,
> > >
> > > Lie. I'm one of the few people who have said it is possible
> > (albeit 1
> > > in 100).
> >
> > Wrong. You made that up because you lose so much the other way
> > you're trying to learn a better way to feed your addiction. I
> > wouldn't be surprised if you weren't playing my way as I write!
> (and
> > of course, making the poor wife do the same).
>
> You really have been drinking. When you sober up could you try
this
> again. Remember I'm the one who has simulated your system and
found
> that around 1% could have the results you claim.

You simulated something not even close to how I play. But I'm
betting you ran off with it and tried to be the 1 of 100 to win.

You'd lose that bet. I was trying to determine if there was anything
reasonable to use on POSITIVE machines. I found that it provided no
benefit over playing at an average denomination. I do believe that
some people would find the increased session win rate a good reason
to use it. However, the majority of people would either be
uncomfortable at the higher denoms or bored at the lower denoms. And,
please, if anyone wants to play a positive progression get rid of the
idiotic 100-300 variation and the 40 credit cash out stupidity.

>
> >
> > The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
> > > starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt again.
Come
> > on
> > > Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't you?
>
> Silence is golden.

No, golden showers are golden. Get with it.

Come clean, Robbie. You were the victim weren't you. That's why you
can't forget about it 40+ years later. I word of advice. Get over it.

>
> > >
> > > > tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> > > > a sideshow.
> > >
> > > Just let me know when you want to play. However, let's make

it

> 20K
> > > each.
> >
> > I'll play you right now even before my foot operation. $20k

each-

-
> > bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet where if I
> produce
> > the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k.
>
> Did I call it? Of course. I made a challenge and Robbie starts
> scrambling. Come on chicken boy, accept it or not, I don't really
> care. Of course, we all know the scrambling will continue.

Did you read above yet?

Yes, you did exactly what you always do. You came back with a
different bet. You have a 100% track record of either changing the
bet as you did above or continuing to raise the amount. You have
NEVER once accepted a bet or stayed with a bet. Those two actions are
what I call "scrambling". You do it every time and it's completely
predictable.

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > I gave you some websites previously. You ignored them. Start
here.
> > >
> > > http://www.ncpgambling.org/
> > >
> > > Note that they talk about "problem gambling" rather than
> > addiction.
> > > You see "my words" actually indicate I know what I'm talking
> > about.
> > > If you really wanted to know the truth you would have read
some
> of
> > > this information when I challenged you previously. Clearly,
you
> > > weren't interested in the TRUTH then, and I suspect you're

not

> > > interested in the TRUTH now.
> >
> > Should I have expcted anything other than this?
>
> The TRUTH? Yes, you should have expected it.

Truth? Why, because there's a scenario in there that gets you off
the self-incriminating hook?

Not a scenario. The entire definition of addiction and how it applies
to problem gambling. I realize this completely invalidates everything
you've been saying for many years now. Sorry, but the facts are the
facts.

>
> > All you're doing, as
> > a genuine addict who has a real-life problem with gambling, is
> > identifying to the world that you constantly WONDER about your
> issue
> > with gambling by researching it and studying what it's all

about,

>
> Nope. "All" I'm doing is presenting facts. You should try it
sometime.

What facts. You search all the time for rationale that'll help
explain away your troubles. That's the first fact you need to face.

Don't need a rationale, now do I? I have the facts, presented clearly
by the experts in the field. What do you have? Zilch.

> I guess Robbie decided no to ignore the facts once again. I gave
him
> a chance to get educated and he runs away like a wounded puppy.

And that says WHAT about your shameless ignorance towards your
family??

Nothing. I get along very well with my family.

> > You continue to develop confidence-building scenarios as you
stuff
> > that foot deeper and deeper into your mouth. How do you think
all
> > this would sound if we were discussing it on the radio--"I

moved

to
> > LV so I could play video poker every day, I dragged my poor

wife

> > into the gutter along with me, we just can't leave town more
than
> > once every 3 months to visit family--and even then we stop at
> Indian
> > casinos every opportunity that arises, I'm not addicted though
> > because I found an obscure article that can be construed if

read

> > with a liberal mind, as saying no one ever is addicted to
gambling.
> > Besides, I don't gamble anyway. I'm an "ADVANTAGE player"! God
save
> > this guy from himself.
>
> Lot's of words. No information. Sorry, Robbie, you just said
> absolutely nothing. And, it took you a lot of typing. Now, go

read

up
> on gambling problems so you can at avoid looking like an even
bigger
> fool than you do right now.

Apparently, lots of TOUGH TO READ words to you. Why else would you
squirm away like that?

I didn't. No need to. You tried to contradict what I showed as
inescapable evidence about problem gambling. Anyone with half a brain
can see your babbling was a poor attempt to save face.

>
> PS. That "obscure article" is from the National Council on

Problem

> Gambling. In case you're wondering, the search that led me to

that

> website came up with 151,000 hits that say pretty much the same
> thing. You sure do know how to look stupid.

Oh really. Did you watch the chairman of that group come on Fox the
other night and say how deeply rooted the real problems are among
those who live in gambling town, LAS VEGAS ESPECIALLY!? Get your
made-up facts straight and watch TV for a change before making a
fool of yourself here again.

The fact that there are lots of people with gambling problems does
not change the definition of problem gambling. I didn't see this
piece, however, I suspect it supports what I've told you so very many
times. There are very few true APers. There are lots of people who
think they can win.

>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Addictions to anything are negative influences and you know
it.
> > >
> > > I love it when you are so completely wrong.
> >
> > And I love it when you are stopped cold with the facts.
>
> Produce just ONE supported fact and I would be amazed.

Fact: You're a pathological gambling addict.

I'm glad you went to the website and did some reading. The use of the
word "pathological" is one of the terms they use. Of course, you
should now understand your usage here is not true. That makes it
another intentional lie. What a surprise. Oh, and where is that
supporting evidence?

> > > That's clearly a major part of it. By far, the majority of
> > problems
> > > that result from gambling are due to losing money. If you
still
> > don't
> > > understand this maybe I need to give you some more

references.

> > Now,
> > > if you want to use me as an example, fine. Before I

understood

> > > anything about advantage play my wife and I averaged about 1
> > gambling
> > > trip a year and set aside a predefined amount that we would
lose.
> > We
> > > did this for 20+ years. We never lost all that money on a
single
> > > trip. Why? We understood the potential problem areas upfront.
> > Still
> > > do.
> >
> > La la la la la la la la la la....
>
> Sounds about right for Robbie. I can just picture him with his
hands
> over his ears not wanting to hear the truth.

What I tend to ignore is your continued justifications for what you
do. A sick mind is corrupted even further, and that's exactly where
you proudly are today.

I guess your comprehension failed you again. Now, go back and reread
the website, shuffle that cat litter around, and then maybe you can
keep up.

>
> > On and on with the self-
> > justifications and how you are one of the few exceptions to
losing
> > play. You don't see it do you. Here's a challenge. Take a 6
month
> > retreat up in that shack in Minnesota where you don't go to

that

> > biased Indian casino, and do nothing but enjoy life and have
family
> > visit. See if you can do it.
>
> I do it all Robbie. I have family visits, I enjoy life and I
gamble.
> Tell me the last time you went 6 months without gambling?

Gee, I don't gamble. i only play with an edge.

Gotcha on that one didn't I. However, if you want to send me a check
for $10,000 I promise not to gamble for six months. Send me one for
$20,000 and I'll add in my wife.

> > And would you ever be able to post that you lost?
>
> I lost one year in the last 5 years since I have been keeping
records
> and was only slightly ahead one other. Of course, I didn't have
much
> of an edge before I moved out to LV. It turns out that I should
only
> win 60% of the time with the small edge I had. I won two out of
> three. Amazing how my simulations and real life track over time.

Oops! You had to post that didn't you. Do I own you or WHAT?!!

You "own" the record for looking foolish. I have no problem reporting
my results. That's because reporting the TRUTH makes you look foolish
time and again.

>
> > That's where the
> > rubber hits the road, not all your make-believe prowess and

then

> > marginalizing what you do with it. The only difference between
> > Dancer/Scott and yourself is they have something to lose by
putting
> > up negative numbers in public.
>
> Just like you.

I have nothing to lose. In fact, I'm the only one alive who's ever
told the truth about losing for 6 years. No go back to the
theoretical drawing board.

Do I own you or WHAT?!!

> > > you understand why they call it "Problem Gambling"?
> >
> > And you would readily tell of your 'other problems' created by
> > gambling?
>
> If I had any problems caused by gambling I would admit them.

Of COURSE you would. Dicky the denyer?

Yes, I would. I think the fact I continue to use facts in all our
discussion while you scramble around with your lies would convince
anyone.

I've
> explained this to you before. The biggest downswing I've ever had
is
> around $6K. That does not create any problems. I also golf, bowl,
> workout, go to movies, watch too much TV, etc. etc. It's your
> constant denial that APers are successful that leads you to
> fantasizing about how you'd like my life to be.

La la la la la la----music to your ears and no one elses. Lies are
mounting and you're looking dumber all the time. Please keep it up!

Don't worry. I will.

>
> > I don't think so, in fact, you won't even see the simple
> > ones: Unhealthy atmosphere to spend so many hours within/waste
of
> > life/disrespecting your spouse by dragging her along with you.
And
> > those aren't even touching the surface.
>
> You wish. Sorry, moron, you are out in left field. You make these
> idiotic claims without knowing a thing about me. To top it all

off

> you show the world you are a complete fool by denying the TRUTH
about
> addiction after I gave you a perfect reference.

Now total denial. Have you no shame? And all those words to boot!
Guess who's a little perturbed!

The only denial anyone can see here is YOUR denial of the information
provided by the National Council on Problem Gambling. Oh, and the
fact that you keep thinking you're convincing anyone you haven't been
completely outclassed ... again.

> > > > Too much video poker = time away from healthier activities,
> > > > family, and spending too much time in very unhealthy
> > environments.
> > >
> > > Please show evidence to support this claim. Compare it to the
> > > environment in the Phoenix area so we can see if it's worse
than
> > your day to day environment.
> >
> > Easy stuff. When you're off to the locals joints every day for
> > hours, I'm jogging (or walking until the foot is repaired), I'm
> > watching our daughter's little girl, working on the landscaping
of
> > both our yards, working on restoring my old muscle car, and
> counting
> > my money won from playing not 2 hours of video poker last week,
> when
> > I came home with another $10,800 profit on $16,500 in W2G's.

And

> all
> > this is done on a daily basis without sufferring thru LV-like
> > gridlock traffic, in a wide open area north of the city. Now if
I
> > were still in my long-term strategy mode of 1990-1996, I'd be
going
> > back and forth to Nevada playing for 6-10 or more hours a day
> > thinking that I could beat the computers one-on-one.
>
> I said PROOF. Please show an environmental comparison between the
air
> in the Phoenix area and that in a Las Vegas casino. Otherwise,

you

> simply show you know nothing about what you are saying.

Oh the air in the Indian casinos over here is every bit as stale,
stagnant and unhealthy as the air in the local joints you hang out
at over there. Outside, I have no idea.

Clearly. However, that didn't stop you from claiming that the
environment in NV casinos was worse than Phoenix. You just admitted
to another lie. How nice.

> > > Knowledge avoids the pitfalls of looking like a fool. Now

that

> > you've
> > > been educated I expect more intelligent responses in the
future.
> >
> > You've shown no knowledge here--only how you'd like it to be so
> that
> > you won't be classified as a problem gambler.
>
> Still denying the facts even after I showed an undeniable
reference.
> It doesn't get any better than this. LMAO, as always.

I see you deleted some of the more poignant issues and words. Keep
it up!

No, I only delete your babbling.

[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > > Sorry, moron, I don't read GT. Never have.
> > >
> > > Are you kidding!
> >
> > No.
>
> You've read my articles many times over on my site, which is the
> same as reading them in GT. Liar.

Nope. I think I went to your site one time when I was building the
simulator and wanted to get a better description of your

progressive

system. On the other hand, you keep copying your idiotic articles

to

this forum where I get to see them if I want to or not.

Liar. I've had my web master do a search. He has no idea who you are
(who does?) and he never heard of you until he read what a weasel you
were in my column. Your address shows up more than a dozen times in
the past 8 weeks. Liar.

> >
> > > > > I have ample replies from many of
> > > > > those whom you believe you've mesmerized with your trying
to
> > > belong
> > > > > on Internet forums, to know that you're the present
laughing
> > > stock
> > > > of
> > > > > Las Vagas--the town you thought you could move to and act
> like
> > a
> > > > > biggie in who doesn't gamble--but plays video poker for
> hours
> > > every
> > > > > day.
> > > >
> > > > Sure there are. I can always tell when you make these

things

> up.
> > > You
> > > > really should get a real life and leave the fantasy world

you

> > seem
> > > to
> > > > live in daily.
> > >
> > > Hmmmm....This kind of bothers you, doesn't it. Oh well, I

LOVE

> IT!!
> >
> > You living in a fastasy world? Doesn't bother me, but you

really

> > should to get a life.
>
> Got a life, and from the constant look of things, one in which

you

> are extremely jealous of. Come to think of it, what addict

wouldn't

> be??

The life of a liar and a fraud? A person who fantasizes about being
something he can never be, a VP guru? I think I'll pass.

I wouldn't be surprised if you spent entire nights dreaming about me.

> > > You asked for it!
> >
> > No I didn't. However, I do get inane responses from you quite
> often.
>
> Yes you did.

I know.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > 2. Name my lies, and support them with data.
> > > >
> > > > Not enough space.
> > >
> > > Translation: You can't keep up with how many times you lie
about
> my
> > > lying.
> >
> > I don't try to keep up with your lying. That would be a full

time

> job.
>
> Re-read what I said.

Don't have to. Note that I specifically said "... keep up with your
lying". I did that to remove ALL ambiguity. Only a very slow person
with cat litter for brains couldn't figure that one out.

Irrelevant. Name the lies. That's the only support that'll save face
for you here. All your scrambling constitutes confusion.

> > > > 4. Name the number of people who think VP is controlled by

a

> > > switch.
> > > >
> > > > If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess you are
> > beyond
> > > > hope. You should get out once in awhile.
> > >
> > > Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now support it.
> >
> > No, I asserted a common well known situation. I stand by my
answer.
>
> You bumbled through your usual made up nonsense, which is why you
> aren.t able to respond to this one either. Again, support
your 'well
> known situation' which doesn't exist.

I leave it to the readers to determine whether they believe my
assertion or not. I'm very compfortable with that because I know

that

anyone who has spent anytime in a casino has heard it before.

You know wrong. I don't listen to babble when I'm playing, and when
I'm done I don't hang around for chit-chat. I'm your exception to
that nonsense, just like I'm your exception to just about everything
else a clown like you could establish as commonplace among vp
players. That's--in case you're confused--the difference between
success and sloppiness that leads to failure.

"When are they going to loosen 'em up?"
"Boy are these machines tight"
"You think they could let us win once in while"

The fact that you express doubt about this shows you lack any
understanding of a typical casino environment. No wonder everyone
laughs when you state you are some kind of guru.

Not doubt. I don't care about it. I go in to win and I don't trade
blabber with losing AP's, who'll do anything to soothe the pain of
continually losing and having to make up a winning year by over-
inflating all the comps.

>
> > Now, tell me you never heard this remark EVER in a casino, Mr.
> Guru.
> >
>
> Never. Ever. Remember, I don't hang around the degenerates and
> idiots you do as you play your so-called advantage vp.

Sorry, but none of these individuals would be considered an AP. I
love it when you show display your complete ignorance.

I didn't say that. Anyone who considers themself an 'AP' obviously
plays at, eats at, and oogles over everything about the local dumps
you hang out at. Most of these people are weird, they dress straight
from K-Mart, many are obese, most smoke, and they all have a lost
life like you do. These are your 'AP's' that you do want to be a part
of your group, and you're nothing but one more of them in your own
way. And these are the group of locals that make up all the
nonsensical stories like you did here about the switch, etc. You
might want to check with vpFREE to find yourself clan that can hold a
discussion with you on baloney like that.

> First it's 'OK (I'll quit while behind), then it's Hazel? You're

so

> confused you couldn't even hold a high pair here if it looked you
in
> the eye!

I didn't know high pairs had the ability to "look". Must be

something

that happens in one of your fantasies. You know, the same ones

where

you are perceived as a VP guru.

So you agree you 'looked' stupid....and still do....over Hazel.

> > > > Just the fact you can't figure out who Trudeau is is plenty
of
> > > > evidence you are a complete moron. In fact, if you are now
> > > claiming
> > > > that you believe no one thinks VP is controlled by a switch
in
> > the
> > > > back room, there's even more evidence.
> > >
> > > I don't care who your hero is nor do I even wonder about that
> > switch
> > > thing you made up. You go agonize over that meaningless stuff
in
> > > your own little introvert world and you'll be just fine.
> >
> > Can't figure it out, can you? You know, if you want to be
> considered
> > a guru at VP you really should get out once in awhile and see
> what's
> > going on.
>
> So let's get this right: Gurus MUST know this trudeau hero of
yours,

Trudeau is a con man just like you and try to stay up with the
conversation. I was referring to the mythical "switch", moron.

The original question was does he take money from people like Dancer
and Scott and Hughes, or does he help people perform whatever he does
better for free. If he does the former, then he's a con man, yes.

> and they MUST have heard someone talk about the famous switch in

a

> casino. Are you sure you're operating within your limitations?

Keep it up. I love it when you make a complete fool of yourself and
have no clue while you're doing it.

I think you lost track here.

> > > On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you want to
be
> > > known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.
> > >
> > > That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your
nonsensical
> > > self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't even get a
> write-
> > > in vote!
> >
> > A self-proclaimed guru who doesn't have any idea that a large
> number
> > of the VP gambling poplution thinks the machines are controlled
> > externally. To state you're a guru while showing your complete
> > ignorance of VP is one BIG laugh. You sure do know how to look
> > foolish.
>
> That's one grand qualification! I can't imagine what my students
> would say if I told them I was that astute. Then just maybe,

those

> whom i train never heard of it either, and it's just another one

of

> those make believe 'AP' stories that float around the local

casinos

> making stops at each and every addict's machine daily. You must

see

> a lot of it.

ROTFLMAO. This is toooooooo good to be true. You keep digging
yourself in deeper.

???

> > > > You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you
> > > are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your lies for
two
> > > days.
> > >
> > > You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a

picture.

> Who
> > > would keep such a horrid thing??
> >
> > OK, tell us where you got said picture. This ought to be fun
> seeing
> > Robbie scamble for an answer.
>
> I actually saw 2--one older one from IBM in Rochester, the other

a

> more recent gem from a security shot at the Edgewater.

Sure you did. Please give the dates of the photos ... just in case
you're making this up.

Again, I said I saw the photos. You care about dates--for what. You
worried your 'hair' wasn't in place on that particular day?

> > > >
> > > > > you've been struggling with weight all your life, which
only
> > > > > goes to support your introvert label. Too late on trying

to

> > save
> > > > face
> > > > > on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the many
> times
> > > I've
> > > > > tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in public
print
> > > now.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it. Then I
can
> > add
> > > > several items to the Lie list above.
> > >
> > > BIG lie. Mission accomplished. (Stop changing it).
> >
> > No, I suspect your article contains several small lies. In

fact,

> I'd
> > bet on it and I'd bet I could prove it.
>
> Name the bet!

I haven't read the article yet. Send it to me and I'll list all the
lies for you to think about. At that time we can bet $1000 on each
lie I list. If I prove it's a lie you pay, if I don't I pay.

You know where it is. And you'll lose. List them. I know I'm gonna
get you to spend hours chasing nebulous thoughts on how to weasel-
word your input on them, but go ahead. $1000 a pop. In fact, make it
fair and I'll make my own list of items vice-versa. See if you can
handle that.

> > > Just the fact that you keep talking to it dictates how you've
> been
> > > ticked off by it. Just keep on denying. I get a laugh every
time.
> >
> > "Talking to it"? Are you drinking already?
>
> My 2-a-day of premium JD Single Barrel commences at 7pm sharp.

Sounded more like 7AM.

> > > > Got you there, didn't I? This "crack the whip" nonsense is
> > > > demonstrating you have nothing intelligent (or otherwise)

to

> say.
> > > > LMAO.
> > >
> > > OK. Then just keep doing as I direct you to!
> >
> > Dream on, monkey boy. Tell us again what a guru you are. We all
> need
> > another good laugh.
>
> I'm a good guru.

Is that like a good fairy? ... With cat liter for brains.

I've never had a cat. Does liter taste good? Or is it a quart?

>
> Of course, we all know this is another
> > lie. Come on, monkey boy. Back up your newest fantasy claim or
> admit
> > you are, once again, lying.
>
> Back up what--that I saw a few pics of you (one with the missus)?
> OK, I swear it.

I suppose you're going to tell us she's fat too. Come on, let's

hear

the dates. I'll accept your assertion if you can provide the dates.
If I don't see any dates then all anyone can assume is that you are
lying.

No, but she's ugly. I couldn't see the rest of her because as usual,
you were in the way.

> > > >
> > > > > Like
> > > > > you do with hours of vp all the time. And they never

fought

> > back
> > > > > either---kinda like you being afraid to ever face me for

a

> live
> > > > > debate on the radio to prove you lie, at casinos to prove

I

> win
> > > > when
> > > > > you say it's not possible,
> > > >
> > > > Lie. I'm one of the few people who have said it is possible
> > > (albeit 1
> > > > in 100).
> > >
> > > Wrong. You made that up because you lose so much the other

way

> > > you're trying to learn a better way to feed your addiction. I
> > > wouldn't be surprised if you weren't playing my way as I

write!

> > (and
> > > of course, making the poor wife do the same).
> >
> > You really have been drinking. When you sober up could you try
> this
> > again. Remember I'm the one who has simulated your system and
> found
> > that around 1% could have the results you claim.
>
> You simulated something not even close to how I play. But I'm
> betting you ran off with it and tried to be the 1 of 100 to win.

You'd lose that bet.

With what proof.

I was trying to determine if there was anything

reasonable to use on POSITIVE machines. I found that it provided no
benefit over playing at an average denomination. I do believe that
some people would find the increased session win rate a good reason
to use it. However, the majority of people would either be
uncomfortable at the higher denoms or bored at the lower denoms.

And,

please, if anyone wants to play a positive progression get rid of

the

idiotic 100-300 variation and the 40 credit cash out stupidity.

Don't make things up. Tell the truth about it. The 'majority' of
people wouldn't have the discipline, determination, intelligence, nor
properly saved gaming-only bankroll to be comfortable or successful
at it. And negative or positive machines make no difference, and have
had no effect on my results over the years. I love it. All that
wasted time getting geeked up about the simulations, and all you
could do is come out with what I told you you would before you
started: Minus = minus & plus = plus. Applying long-term rules to
short term play does that, only your pea brain can't think in those
terms. As a reslt, you'll never get it.

> >
> > >
> > > The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
> > > > starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt again.
> Come
> > > on
> > > > Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't you?
> >
> > Silence is golden.
>
> No, golden showers are golden. Get with it.

Come clean, Robbie. You were the victim weren't you. That's why you
can't forget about it 40+ years later. I word of advice. Get over

it.

If I were a nerd I'd have outright killed myself years ago--not
slowly deterioriate as you've chosen to do.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> > > > > a sideshow.
> > > >
> > > > Just let me know when you want to play. However, let's make
it
> > 20K
> > > > each.
> > >
> > > I'll play you right now even before my foot operation. $20k
each-
> -
> > > bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet where if I
> > produce
> > > the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k.
> >
> > Did I call it? Of course. I made a challenge and Robbie starts
> > scrambling. Come on chicken boy, accept it or not, I don't

really

> > care. Of course, we all know the scrambling will continue.
>
> Did you read above yet?

Yes, you did exactly what you always do. You came back with a
different bet. You have a 100% track record of either changing the
bet as you did above or continuing to raise the amount. You have
NEVER once accepted a bet or stayed with a bet. Those two actions

are

what I call "scrambling". You do it every time and it's completely
predictable.

The bet is the bet as it always has been. You scrambled away from
supporting your claims on the radio before any of this other
nonsense, and you paid for it in Gaming Today. Now's your chance for
redemption, THEN it's tennis & then that wussy bowling match. Now
keep your facts straight and see if you can do things in this order:
1,2,3. I agree with the $20k. The reason I didn't accept $5k bets is
because it's a waste of my time. I think you got that point
eventually. So here it is: Tennis & Bowling--ACCEPTED AS YOU STATE.
One week after we appear on the radio together to fulfill or rebuke
your clear claims which came before your 2 propositions. Ready to
walk the walk, or is hiding behind that computer your only safe
haven??

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[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > > I gave you some websites previously. You ignored them.

Start

> here.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ncpgambling.org/
> > > >
> > > > Note that they talk about "problem gambling" rather than
> > > addiction.
> > > > You see "my words" actually indicate I know what I'm

talking

> > > about.
> > > > If you really wanted to know the truth you would have read
> some
> > of
> > > > this information when I challenged you previously. Clearly,
> you
> > > > weren't interested in the TRUTH then, and I suspect you're
not
> > > > interested in the TRUTH now.
> > >
> > > Should I have expcted anything other than this?
> >
> > The TRUTH? Yes, you should have expected it.
>
> Truth? Why, because there's a scenario in there that gets you off
> the self-incriminating hook?

Not a scenario. The entire definition of addiction and how it

applies

to problem gambling. I realize this completely invalidates

everything

you've been saying for many years now. Sorry, but the facts are the
facts.

Listen to your interpretations, and one would be led to think there's
no such thing as the problem that plagues you and others like you.
Addicts will do anything to explain away that corrupt portion of
their lives.

> >
> > > All you're doing, as
> > > a genuine addict who has a real-life problem with gambling,

is

> > > identifying to the world that you constantly WONDER about

your

> > issue
> > > with gambling by researching it and studying what it's all
about,
> >
> > Nope. "All" I'm doing is presenting facts. You should try it
> sometime.
>
> What facts. You search all the time for rationale that'll help
> explain away your troubles. That's the first fact you need to

face.

Don't need a rationale, now do I? I have the facts, presented

clearly

by the experts in the field. What do you have? Zilch.

Rationale = facts to you, so you DO need rationale. It's the only way
you can justify leading such a mutated-style life these days.

> > I guess Robbie decided no to ignore the facts once again. I

gave

> him
> > a chance to get educated and he runs away like a wounded puppy.
>
> And that says WHAT about your shameless ignorance towards your
> family??

Nothing. I get along very well with my family.

When video poker is the main driver in a life, there is no family,
that is, until someone challenges you on it.

> > > You continue to develop confidence-building scenarios as you
> stuff
> > > that foot deeper and deeper into your mouth. How do you think
> all
> > > this would sound if we were discussing it on the radio--"I
moved
> to
> > > LV so I could play video poker every day, I dragged my poor
wife
> > > into the gutter along with me, we just can't leave town more
> than
> > > once every 3 months to visit family--and even then we stop at
> > Indian
> > > casinos every opportunity that arises, I'm not addicted

though

> > > because I found an obscure article that can be construed if
read
> > > with a liberal mind, as saying no one ever is addicted to
> gambling.
> > > Besides, I don't gamble anyway. I'm an "ADVANTAGE player"!

God

> save
> > > this guy from himself.
> >
> > Lot's of words. No information. Sorry, Robbie, you just said
> > absolutely nothing. And, it took you a lot of typing. Now, go
read
> up
> > on gambling problems so you can at avoid looking like an even
> bigger
> > fool than you do right now.
>
> Apparently, lots of TOUGH TO READ words to you. Why else would

you

> squirm away like that?

I didn't. No need to. You tried to contradict what I showed as
inescapable evidence about problem gambling. Anyone with half a

brain

can see your babbling was a poor attempt to save face.

You're clearly in denial about this. You'll listen to no one until
the day comes when your door to escapism is shut down. Anyone who can
read an article abour problem gambling, then come back and say "see,
it's not me" along with saying they don't gamble anyway after
spending the better part of every day IN CASINOS in front of video
poker machines, is the true definition of the problem the author gets
trhough to everyone but the most severely inflicted.

> >
> > PS. That "obscure article" is from the National Council on
Problem
> > Gambling. In case you're wondering, the search that led me to
that
> > website came up with 151,000 hits that say pretty much the same
> > thing. You sure do know how to look stupid.
>
> Oh really. Did you watch the chairman of that group come on Fox

the

> other night and say how deeply rooted the real problems are among
> those who live in gambling town, LAS VEGAS ESPECIALLY!? Get your
> made-up facts straight and watch TV for a change before making a
> fool of yourself here again.

The fact that there are lots of people with gambling problems does
not change the definition of problem gambling. I didn't see this
piece, however, I suspect it supports what I've told you so very

many

times. There are very few true APers. There are lots of people who
think they can win.

Another of your famous "escape clauses". Your heroes Scott & Dancer
use this one all the time. "Yes, AP's can lose, but it's the other
guys who lose and not us". Or "Yes, there are many addicts who
shouldn't really be playing APVP, but that's not me--I do it for
recreation or profit only, and I am therefore not an addict or
problem gambler." It goes on and on and is nothing but utilizing self-
confidence building blocks on the road to nowhere. Just like you.
Just once I'd like you to come clean here and say you are addicted to
the game, without all the sugar coating of saying "but it's not a
problem for me like it is for others because I win". Just say it
clear and simple and you'll get more respect from everyone. It isn't
that difficult. I did it when I first came out and it's led to being
able to be truthful about everything video poker since. You don't
believe that because it just doesn't fit your perceived scenario of
what i do and how I do it, but the only person it matters to is me.
Do it and you'll see.

> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Addictions to anything are negative influences and you

know

> it.
> > > >
> > > > I love it when you are so completely wrong.
> > >
> > > And I love it when you are stopped cold with the facts.
> >
> > Produce just ONE supported fact and I would be amazed.
>
> Fact: You're a pathological gambling addict.

I'm glad you went to the website and did some reading. The use of

the

word "pathological" is one of the terms they use. Of course, you
should now understand your usage here is not true. That makes it
another intentional lie. What a surprise. Oh, and where is that
supporting evidence?

I didn't read the site. I've already heard and read it all when I
admitted I had the problem 10 years ago. Updates come in the news,
and rather than frantically searching for feel-good interpretations
all over the Internet, you'd get far more out of listening to others
who've had a history of it or treat those inflicted. Truth is you ARE
a pathological gambling addict, video poker specifically, and you're
in a group that's FAR larger than you'd like to know about. Your
education on this subject is just beginning, and I suspect you'll be
a graduate in it within 3 years from now.

> > > > That's clearly a major part of it. By far, the majority of
> > > problems
> > > > that result from gambling are due to losing money. If you
> still
> > > don't
> > > > understand this maybe I need to give you some more
references.
> > > Now,
> > > > if you want to use me as an example, fine. Before I
understood
> > > > anything about advantage play my wife and I averaged about

1

> > > gambling
> > > > trip a year and set aside a predefined amount that we would
> lose.
> > > We
> > > > did this for 20+ years. We never lost all that money on a
> single
> > > > trip. Why? We understood the potential problem areas

upfront.

> > > Still
> > > > do.
> > >
> > > La la la la la la la la la la....
> >
> > Sounds about right for Robbie. I can just picture him with his
> hands
> > over his ears not wanting to hear the truth.
>
> What I tend to ignore is your continued justifications for what

you

> do. A sick mind is corrupted even further, and that's exactly

where

> you proudly are today.

I guess your comprehension failed you again. Now, go back and

reread

the website, shuffle that cat litter around, and then maybe you can
keep up.

> >
> > > On and on with the self-
> > > justifications and how you are one of the few exceptions to
> losing
> > > play. You don't see it do you. Here's a challenge. Take a 6
> month
> > > retreat up in that shack in Minnesota where you don't go to
that
> > > biased Indian casino, and do nothing but enjoy life and have
> family
> > > visit. See if you can do it.
> >
> > I do it all Robbie. I have family visits, I enjoy life and I
> gamble.
> > Tell me the last time you went 6 months without gambling?
>
> Gee, I don't gamble. i only play with an edge.

Gotcha on that one didn't I. However, if you want to send me a

check

for $10,000 I promise not to gamble for six months. Send me one for
$20,000 and I'll add in my wife.

Problem is, you'd promise and then you'd state, thru your usual
weasel-wording, that all the payments were about is promising and not
doing. Your life is about and around video poker and you know it, and
you've totally corrupted your wife with the same degeneracy. You
should be ashamed. But gee, you don't gamble do you---you play with
an edge!

> > > And would you ever be able to post that you lost?
> >
> > I lost one year in the last 5 years since I have been keeping
> records
> > and was only slightly ahead one other. Of course, I didn't have
> much
> > of an edge before I moved out to LV. It turns out that I should
> only
> > win 60% of the time with the small edge I had. I won two out of
> > three. Amazing how my simulations and real life track over time.
>
> Oops! You had to post that didn't you. Do I own you or WHAT?!!

You "own" the record for looking foolish. I have no problem

reporting

my results. That's because reporting the TRUTH makes you look

foolish

time and again.

Funny, you seem to have trouble doing just about everything until I
call you on it, then you begin to make things up at a frantic pace. I
own everything about you because you're life revolves around video
poker and me and you know it. So go break the bad news to your
already-affected wife.

> >
> > > That's where the
> > > rubber hits the road, not all your make-believe prowess and
then
> > > marginalizing what you do with it. The only difference

between

> > > Dancer/Scott and yourself is they have something to lose by
> putting
> > > up negative numbers in public.
> >
> > Just like you.
>
> I have nothing to lose. In fact, I'm the only one alive who's

ever

> told the truth about losing for 6 years. No go back to the
> theoretical drawing board.

Do I own you or WHAT?!!

> > > > you understand why they call it "Problem Gambling"?
> > >
> > > And you would readily tell of your 'other problems' created

by

> > > gambling?
> >
> > If I had any problems caused by gambling I would admit them.
>
> Of COURSE you would. Dicky the denyer?

Yes, I would. I think the fact I continue to use facts in all our
discussion while you scramble around with your lies would convince
anyone.

You're so far gone it's somewhere up in the stratosphere. You won't
even admit that you gamble. Run that one by the weenies on vpFREE and
see what they'd come back with!

>
> I've
> > explained this to you before. The biggest downswing I've ever

had

> is
> > around $6K. That does not create any problems. I also golf,

bowl,

> > workout, go to movies, watch too much TV, etc. etc. It's your
> > constant denial that APers are successful that leads you to
> > fantasizing about how you'd like my life to be.
>
> La la la la la la----music to your ears and no one elses. Lies

are

> mounting and you're looking dumber all the time. Please keep it

up!

Don't worry. I will.

> >
> > > I don't think so, in fact, you won't even see the simple
> > > ones: Unhealthy atmosphere to spend so many hours

within/waste

> of
> > > life/disrespecting your spouse by dragging her along with

you.

> And
> > > those aren't even touching the surface.
> >
> > You wish. Sorry, moron, you are out in left field. You make

these

> > idiotic claims without knowing a thing about me. To top it all
off
> > you show the world you are a complete fool by denying the TRUTH
> about
> > addiction after I gave you a perfect reference.
>
> Now total denial. Have you no shame? And all those words to boot!
> Guess who's a little perturbed!

The only denial anyone can see here is YOUR denial of the

information

provided by the National Council on Problem Gambling. Oh, and the
fact that you keep thinking you're convincing anyone you haven't

been

completely outclassed ... again.

Mutated interpretations won't get you off the hook. You're your own
worst enemy, and the battle rages within. Keep it up. I like watching
the explosions go off.

> > > > > Too much video poker = time away from healthier

activities,

> > > > > family, and spending too much time in very unhealthy
> > > environments.
> > > >
> > > > Please show evidence to support this claim. Compare it to

the

> > > > environment in the Phoenix area so we can see if it's worse
> than
> > > your day to day environment.
> > >
> > > Easy stuff. When you're off to the locals joints every day

for

> > > hours, I'm jogging (or walking until the foot is repaired),

I'm

> > > watching our daughter's little girl, working on the

landscaping

> of
> > > both our yards, working on restoring my old muscle car, and
> > counting
> > > my money won from playing not 2 hours of video poker last

week,

> > when
> > > I came home with another $10,800 profit on $16,500 in W2G's.
And
> > all
> > > this is done on a daily basis without sufferring thru LV-like
> > > gridlock traffic, in a wide open area north of the city. Now

if

> I
> > > were still in my long-term strategy mode of 1990-1996, I'd be
> going
> > > back and forth to Nevada playing for 6-10 or more hours a day
> > > thinking that I could beat the computers one-on-one.
> >
> > I said PROOF. Please show an environmental comparison between

the

> air
> > in the Phoenix area and that in a Las Vegas casino. Otherwise,
you
> > simply show you know nothing about what you are saying.
>
> Oh the air in the Indian casinos over here is every bit as stale,
> stagnant and unhealthy as the air in the local joints you hang

out

> at over there. Outside, I have no idea.

Clearly. However, that didn't stop you from claiming that the
environment in NV casinos was worse than Phoenix. You just admitted
to another lie. How nice.

Did you read what I wrote, or are you reading from some other website
that standardizes all your odd thoughts?

> > > > Knowledge avoids the pitfalls of looking like a fool. Now
that
> > > you've
> > > > been educated I expect more intelligent responses in the
> future.
> > >
> > > You've shown no knowledge here--only how you'd like it to be

so

> > that
> > > you won't be classified as a problem gambler.
> >
> > Still denying the facts even after I showed an undeniable
> reference.
> > It doesn't get any better than this. LMAO, as always.
>
> I see you deleted some of the more poignant issues and words.

Keep

> it up!

No, I only delete your babbling.

I'd be embarrassed too if I were you. You know what I mean. It's OK
though. No one else need know.

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[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

>
> Nope. I think I went to your site one time when I was building

the

> simulator and wanted to get a better description of your
progressive
> system. On the other hand, you keep copying your idiotic articles
to
> this forum where I get to see them if I want to or not.

Liar. I've had my web master do a search. He has no idea who you

are

(who does?) and he never heard of you until he read what a weasel

you

were in my column. Your address shows up more than a dozen times in
the past 8 weeks. Liar.

Sorry, but it wasn't me. The only time I was there was back in
January. Maybe your webmaster is playing with your mind ...

Did you count access to each webpage as a separate visit? I suppose a
techno-weenis like yourself would not understand that on ONE visit a
person may access several different webpages.

> > Got a life, and from the constant look of things, one in which
you
> > are extremely jealous of. Come to think of it, what addict
wouldn't
> > be??
>
> The life of a liar and a fraud? A person who fantasizes about

being

> something he can never be, a VP guru? I think I'll pass.

I wouldn't be surprised if you spent entire nights dreaming about

me.

ROTFLMAO. You really need help comprehending reality.

>
> > > > You asked for it!
> > >
> > > No I didn't. However, I do get inane responses from you quite
> > often.
> >
> > Yes you did.
>
> I know.
> > > > Translation: You can't keep up with how many times you lie
> about
> > my
> > > > lying.
> > >
> > > I don't try to keep up with your lying. That would be a full
time
> > job.
> >
> > Re-read what I said.
>
> Don't have to. Note that I specifically said "... keep up with

your

> lying". I did that to remove ALL ambiguity. Only a very slow

person

> with cat litter for brains couldn't figure that one out.

Irrelevant. Name the lies. That's the only support that'll save

face

for you here. All your scrambling constitutes confusion.

I name each and every lie as I go. I have no need to rehash them.
However, if you send me your GT article I'd be happy to point out all
the lies in there.

>
> > > > > 4. Name the number of people who think VP is controlled

by

a
> > > > switch.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess you

are

> > > beyond
> > > > > hope. You should get out once in awhile.
> > > >
> > > > Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now support

it.

> > >
> > > No, I asserted a common well known situation. I stand by my
> answer.
> >
> > You bumbled through your usual made up nonsense, which is why

you

> > aren.t able to respond to this one either. Again, support
> your 'well
> > known situation' which doesn't exist.
>
> I leave it to the readers to determine whether they believe my
> assertion or not. I'm very compfortable with that because I know
that
> anyone who has spent anytime in a casino has heard it before.

You know wrong. I don't listen to babble when I'm playing, and when
I'm done I don't hang around for chit-chat.

On one hand you tell us about all your buddies at the casinos where
you can get information. Now you tell us you don't hang around
and "chit-chat". Clearly you've got one of your lies confused.

> "When are they going to loosen 'em up?"
> "Boy are these machines tight"
> "You think they could let us win once in while"
>
> The fact that you express doubt about this shows you lack any
> understanding of a typical casino environment. No wonder everyone
> laughs when you state you are some kind of guru.

Not doubt. I don't care about it.

That's fine, but I don't think your fantasy of becoming a guru will
ever come true with this approach. Maybe you should ask your GT buddy
Elliot to help you understand what REALLY goes on inside a casino.
He's much more knowledgeable than you are.

>
> >
> > > Now, tell me you never heard this remark EVER in a casino,

Mr.

> > Guru.
> > >
> >
> > Never. Ever. Remember, I don't hang around the degenerates and
> > idiots you do as you play your so-called advantage vp.
>
> Sorry, but none of these individuals would be considered an AP. I
> love it when you show display your complete ignorance.

I didn't say that. Anyone who considers themself an 'AP' obviously
plays at, eats at, and oogles over everything about the local dumps
you hang out at. Most of these people are weird, they dress

straight

from K-Mart, many are obese, most smoke, and they all have a lost
life like you do.

There you go with those generalizations again. I didn't think Dave
liked people who generalize. The fact is the APers are just another
typical cross-section of people. Some are fat, some aren't, some
dress well, some don't, few of them are smokers. This is just another
of your idiotic attempts to put down APers, just like your idiotic
addiction claims where I proved you have no knowledge whatsoever.

>
> > First it's 'OK (I'll quit while behind), then it's Hazel?

You're

so
> > confused you couldn't even hold a high pair here if it looked

you

> in
> > the eye!
>
> I didn't know high pairs had the ability to "look". Must be
something
> that happens in one of your fantasies. You know, the same ones
where
> you are perceived as a VP guru.

So you agree you 'looked' stupid....and still do....over Hazel.

No, I just gave you an example of a person who has made a "switch"
statement ... as you requested. We all know exactly who is "looking
stupid".

> > > > I don't care who your hero is nor do I even wonder about

that

> > > switch
> > > > thing you made up. You go agonize over that meaningless

stuff

> in
> > > > your own little introvert world and you'll be just fine.
> > >
> > > Can't figure it out, can you? You know, if you want to be
> > considered
> > > a guru at VP you really should get out once in awhile and see
> > what's
> > > going on.
> >
> > So let's get this right: Gurus MUST know this trudeau hero of
> yours,
>
> Trudeau is a con man just like you and try to stay up with the
> conversation. I was referring to the mythical "switch", moron.

The original question was does he take money from people like

Dancer

and Scott and Hughes, or does he help people perform whatever he

does

better for free. If he does the former, then he's a con man, yes.

What part of "medical-scam" didn't you understand? That alcohol has
really messed with your cat-liter. If you want to know more try
google.

>
> > and they MUST have heard someone talk about the famous switch

in

a
> > casino. Are you sure you're operating within your limitations?
>
> Keep it up. I love it when you make a complete fool of yourself

and

> have no clue while you're doing it.

I think you lost track here.

You wish.

>
> > > > On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you want

to

> be
> > > > known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.
> > > >
> > > > That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your
> nonsensical
> > > > self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't even get

a

> > write-
> > > > in vote!
> > >
> > > A self-proclaimed guru who doesn't have any idea that a large
> > number
> > > of the VP gambling poplution thinks the machines are

controlled

> > > externally. To state you're a guru while showing your

complete

> > > ignorance of VP is one BIG laugh. You sure do know how to

look

> > > foolish.
> >
> > That's one grand qualification! I can't imagine what my

students

> > would say if I told them I was that astute. Then just maybe,
those
> > whom i train never heard of it either, and it's just another

one

of
> > those make believe 'AP' stories that float around the local
casinos
> > making stops at each and every addict's machine daily. You must
see
> > a lot of it.
>
> ROTFLMAO. This is toooooooo good to be true. You keep digging
> yourself in deeper.

???

I know.

>
> > > > > You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you
> > > > are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your lies

for

> two
> > > > days.
> > > >
> > > > You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a
picture.
> > Who
> > > > would keep such a horrid thing??
> > >
> > > OK, tell us where you got said picture. This ought to be fun
> > seeing
> > > Robbie scamble for an answer.
> >
> > I actually saw 2--one older one from IBM in Rochester, the

other

a
> > more recent gem from a security shot at the Edgewater.
>
> Sure you did. Please give the dates of the photos ... just in

case

> you're making this up.
>
Again, I said I saw the photos. You care about dates--for what. You
worried your 'hair' wasn't in place on that particular day?

Caught in another lie? Of course, this is way tooooooooo easy. I told
you I worked at IBM and I told you I went to Edgewater. You decided
to use that knowledge to manufacture another lie. Only, you got
caught with your pants down ... again.

> > > > >
> > > > > > you've been struggling with weight all your life, which
> only
> > > > > > goes to support your introvert label. Too late on

trying

to
> > > save
> > > > > face
> > > > > > on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the many
> > times
> > > > I've
> > > > > > tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in public
> print
> > > > now.
> > > > >
> > > > > I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it. Then

I

> can
> > > add
> > > > > several items to the Lie list above.
> > > >
> > > > BIG lie. Mission accomplished. (Stop changing it).
> > >
> > > No, I suspect your article contains several small lies. In
fact,
> > I'd
> > > bet on it and I'd bet I could prove it.
> >
> > Name the bet!
>
> I haven't read the article yet. Send it to me and I'll list all

the

> lies for you to think about. At that time we can bet $1000 on

each

> lie I list. If I prove it's a lie you pay, if I don't I pay.

You know where it is. And you'll lose. List them. I know I'm gonna
get you to spend hours chasing nebulous thoughts on how to weasel-
word your input on them, but go ahead. $1000 a pop. In fact, make

it

fair and I'll make my own list of items vice-versa. See if you can
handle that.

Send me a copy and we can proceed. That's all it takes on your part.

>
> > > > Just the fact that you keep talking to it dictates how

you've

> > been
> > > > ticked off by it. Just keep on denying. I get a laugh every
> time.
> > >
> > > "Talking to it"? Are you drinking already?
> >
> > My 2-a-day of premium JD Single Barrel commences at 7pm sharp.
>
> Sounded more like 7AM.
>
> > > > > Got you there, didn't I? This "crack the whip" nonsense

is

> > > > > demonstrating you have nothing intelligent (or otherwise)
to
> > say.
> > > > > LMAO.
> > > >
> > > > OK. Then just keep doing as I direct you to!
> > >
> > > Dream on, monkey boy. Tell us again what a guru you are. We

all

> > need
> > > another good laugh.
> >
> > I'm a good guru.
>
> Is that like a good fairy? ... With cat liter for brains.

I've never had a cat. Does liter taste good? Or is it a quart?

I didn't say you owned a cat, only that you had cat liter for brains.
I suppose you've heard this one either. You know, it's grey and if
you dig in just a little bit your find plenty of sh*t.

>
> >
> > Of course, we all know this is another
> > > lie. Come on, monkey boy. Back up your newest fantasy claim

or

> > admit
> > > you are, once again, lying.
> >
> > Back up what--that I saw a few pics of you (one with the

missus)?

> > OK, I swear it.
>
> I suppose you're going to tell us she's fat too. Come on, let's
hear
> the dates. I'll accept your assertion if you can provide the

dates.

> If I don't see any dates then all anyone can assume is that you

are

> lying.
>
No, but she's ugly. I couldn't see the rest of her because as

usual,

you were in the way.

The lies just keep coming. I'll add this one to the long list.

> You'd lose that bet.

With what proof.

The only proof required. My statement.

I was trying to determine if there was anything
> reasonable to use on POSITIVE machines. I found that it provided

no

> benefit over playing at an average denomination. I do believe

that

> some people would find the increased session win rate a good

reason

> to use it. However, the majority of people would either be
> uncomfortable at the higher denoms or bored at the lower denoms.
And,
> please, if anyone wants to play a positive progression get rid of
the
> idiotic 100-300 variation and the 40 credit cash out stupidity.
>
Don't make things up. Tell the truth about it.

I just did.

The 'majority' of
people wouldn't have the discipline, determination, intelligence,

nor

properly saved gaming-only bankroll to be comfortable or successful
at it.

Or cat liter for brains.

> > >
> > > >
> > > > The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
> > > > > starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt

again.

> > Come
> > > > on
> > > > > Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't you?
> > >
> > > Silence is golden.
> >
> > No, golden showers are golden. Get with it.
>
> Come clean, Robbie. You were the victim weren't you. That's why

you

> can't forget about it 40+ years later. I word of advice. Get over
it.

If I were a nerd I'd have outright killed myself years ago--not
slowly deterioriate as you've chosen to do.

Been looking in the mirror again?

>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> > > > > > a sideshow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just let me know when you want to play. However, let's

make

> it
> > > 20K
> > > > > each.
> > > >
> > > > I'll play you right now even before my foot operation. $20k
> each-
> > -
> > > > bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet where if

I

> > > produce
> > > > the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k.
> > >
> > > Did I call it? Of course. I made a challenge and Robbie

starts

> > > scrambling. Come on chicken boy, accept it or not, I don't
really
> > > care. Of course, we all know the scrambling will continue.
> >
> > Did you read above yet?
>
> Yes, you did exactly what you always do. You came back with a
> different bet. You have a 100% track record of either changing

the

> bet as you did above or continuing to raise the amount. You have
> NEVER once accepted a bet or stayed with a bet. Those two actions
are
> what I call "scrambling". You do it every time and it's

completely

> predictable.

The bet is the bet as it always has been.

There was NEVER an agreed to bet. You kept changing it all the time,
just as I described above.

Now
keep your facts straight and see if you can do things in this

order:

1,2,3. I agree with the $20k. The reason I didn't accept $5k bets

is

because it's a waste of my time.

Typical excuse.

I think you got that point
eventually. So here it is: Tennis & Bowling--ACCEPTED AS YOU STATE.
One week after we appear on the radio together to fulfill or rebuke
your clear claims which came before your 2 propositions.

Please provide what claims you are referring to. Give the post where
you think I made these claims. If you can do this I MIGHT reconsider
the whole radio show thingy.

[rgmustain]

I have nothing more to add to this thread. I've given Rob a direct
link to:

http://www.ncpgambling.org/

and he has chosen to ignore the facts and continue to offer only lies
and ignorance instead. So be it. If he wishes to play the role of an
uneducatable fool, that is his right. For others who want to know
more, I did a google search on "gambling addiction" to get this
reference and many others.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
> wrote:
> > > > > I gave you some websites previously. You ignored them.
Start
> > here.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ncpgambling.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that they talk about "problem gambling" rather than
> > > > addiction.
> > > > > You see "my words" actually indicate I know what I'm
talking
> > > > about.
> > > > > If you really wanted to know the truth you would have

read

> > some
> > > of
> > > > > this information when I challenged you previously.

Clearly,

> > you
> > > > > weren't interested in the TRUTH then, and I suspect

you're

> not
> > > > > interested in the TRUTH now.
> > > >
> > > > Should I have expcted anything other than this?
> > >
> > > The TRUTH? Yes, you should have expected it.
> >
> > Truth? Why, because there's a scenario in there that gets you

off

> > the self-incriminating hook?
>
> Not a scenario. The entire definition of addiction and how it
applies
> to problem gambling. I realize this completely invalidates
everything
> you've been saying for many years now. Sorry, but the facts are

the

> facts.

Listen to your interpretations, and one would be led to think

there's

no such thing as the problem that plagues you and others like you.
Addicts will do anything to explain away that corrupt portion of
their lives.
>
> > >
> > > > All you're doing, as
> > > > a genuine addict who has a real-life problem with gambling,
is
> > > > identifying to the world that you constantly WONDER about
your
> > > issue
> > > > with gambling by researching it and studying what it's all
> about,
> > >
> > > Nope. "All" I'm doing is presenting facts. You should try it
> > sometime.
> >
> > What facts. You search all the time for rationale that'll help
> > explain away your troubles. That's the first fact you need to
face.
>
> Don't need a rationale, now do I? I have the facts, presented
clearly
> by the experts in the field. What do you have? Zilch.

Rationale = facts to you, so you DO need rationale. It's the only

way

you can justify leading such a mutated-style life these days.
>
> > > I guess Robbie decided no to ignore the facts once again. I
gave
> > him
> > > a chance to get educated and he runs away like a wounded

puppy.

> >
> > And that says WHAT about your shameless ignorance towards your
> > family??
>
> Nothing. I get along very well with my family.

When video poker is the main driver in a life, there is no family,
that is, until someone challenges you on it.
>
> > > > You continue to develop confidence-building scenarios as

you

> > stuff
> > > > that foot deeper and deeper into your mouth. How do you

think

> > all
> > > > this would sound if we were discussing it on the radio--"I
> moved
> > to
> > > > LV so I could play video poker every day, I dragged my poor
> wife
> > > > into the gutter along with me, we just can't leave town

more

> > than
> > > > once every 3 months to visit family--and even then we stop

at

> > > Indian
> > > > casinos every opportunity that arises, I'm not addicted
though
> > > > because I found an obscure article that can be construed if
> read
> > > > with a liberal mind, as saying no one ever is addicted to
> > gambling.
> > > > Besides, I don't gamble anyway. I'm an "ADVANTAGE player"!
God
> > save
> > > > this guy from himself.
> > >
> > > Lot's of words. No information. Sorry, Robbie, you just said
> > > absolutely nothing. And, it took you a lot of typing. Now, go
> read
> > up
> > > on gambling problems so you can at avoid looking like an even
> > bigger
> > > fool than you do right now.
> >
> > Apparently, lots of TOUGH TO READ words to you. Why else would
you
> > squirm away like that?
>
> I didn't. No need to. You tried to contradict what I showed as
> inescapable evidence about problem gambling. Anyone with half a
brain
> can see your babbling was a poor attempt to save face.

You're clearly in denial about this. You'll listen to no one until
the day comes when your door to escapism is shut down. Anyone who

can

read an article abour problem gambling, then come back and

say "see,

it's not me" along with saying they don't gamble anyway after
spending the better part of every day IN CASINOS in front of video
poker machines, is the true definition of the problem the author

gets

trhough to everyone but the most severely inflicted.
>
> > >
> > > PS. That "obscure article" is from the National Council on
> Problem
> > > Gambling. In case you're wondering, the search that led me to
> that
> > > website came up with 151,000 hits that say pretty much the

same

> > > thing. You sure do know how to look stupid.
> >
> > Oh really. Did you watch the chairman of that group come on Fox
the
> > other night and say how deeply rooted the real problems are

among

> > those who live in gambling town, LAS VEGAS ESPECIALLY!? Get

your

> > made-up facts straight and watch TV for a change before making

a

> > fool of yourself here again.
>
> The fact that there are lots of people with gambling problems

does

> not change the definition of problem gambling. I didn't see this
> piece, however, I suspect it supports what I've told you so very
many
> times. There are very few true APers. There are lots of people

who

> think they can win.

Another of your famous "escape clauses". Your heroes Scott & Dancer
use this one all the time. "Yes, AP's can lose, but it's the other
guys who lose and not us". Or "Yes, there are many addicts who
shouldn't really be playing APVP, but that's not me--I do it for
recreation or profit only, and I am therefore not an addict or
problem gambler." It goes on and on and is nothing but utilizing

self-

confidence building blocks on the road to nowhere. Just like you.
Just once I'd like you to come clean here and say you are addicted

to

the game, without all the sugar coating of saying "but it's not a
problem for me like it is for others because I win". Just say it
clear and simple and you'll get more respect from everyone. It

isn't

that difficult. I did it when I first came out and it's led to

being

able to be truthful about everything video poker since. You don't
believe that because it just doesn't fit your perceived scenario of
what i do and how I do it, but the only person it matters to is me.
Do it and you'll see.
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Addictions to anything are negative influences and you
know
> > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I love it when you are so completely wrong.
> > > >
> > > > And I love it when you are stopped cold with the facts.
> > >
> > > Produce just ONE supported fact and I would be amazed.
> >
> > Fact: You're a pathological gambling addict.
>
> I'm glad you went to the website and did some reading. The use of
the
> word "pathological" is one of the terms they use. Of course, you
> should now understand your usage here is not true. That makes it
> another intentional lie. What a surprise. Oh, and where is that
> supporting evidence?

I didn't read the site. I've already heard and read it all when I
admitted I had the problem 10 years ago. Updates come in the news,
and rather than frantically searching for feel-good interpretations
all over the Internet, you'd get far more out of listening to

others

who've had a history of it or treat those inflicted. Truth is you

ARE

a pathological gambling addict, video poker specifically, and

you're

in a group that's FAR larger than you'd like to know about. Your
education on this subject is just beginning, and I suspect you'll

be

a graduate in it within 3 years from now.
>
> > > > > That's clearly a major part of it. By far, the majority

of

> > > > problems
> > > > > that result from gambling are due to losing money. If you
> > still
> > > > don't
> > > > > understand this maybe I need to give you some more
> references.
> > > > Now,
> > > > > if you want to use me as an example, fine. Before I
> understood
> > > > > anything about advantage play my wife and I averaged

about

1
> > > > gambling
> > > > > trip a year and set aside a predefined amount that we

would

> > lose.
> > > > We
> > > > > did this for 20+ years. We never lost all that money on a
> > single
> > > > > trip. Why? We understood the potential problem areas
upfront.
> > > > Still
> > > > > do.
> > > >
> > > > La la la la la la la la la la....
> > >
> > > Sounds about right for Robbie. I can just picture him with

his

> > hands
> > > over his ears not wanting to hear the truth.
> >
> > What I tend to ignore is your continued justifications for what
you
> > do. A sick mind is corrupted even further, and that's exactly
where
> > you proudly are today.
>
> I guess your comprehension failed you again. Now, go back and
reread
> the website, shuffle that cat litter around, and then maybe you

can

> keep up.
>
> > >
> > > > On and on with the self-
> > > > justifications and how you are one of the few exceptions to
> > losing
> > > > play. You don't see it do you. Here's a challenge. Take a 6
> > month
> > > > retreat up in that shack in Minnesota where you don't go to
> that
> > > > biased Indian casino, and do nothing but enjoy life and

have

> > family
> > > > visit. See if you can do it.
> > >
> > > I do it all Robbie. I have family visits, I enjoy life and I
> > gamble.
> > > Tell me the last time you went 6 months without gambling?
> >
> > Gee, I don't gamble. i only play with an edge.
>
> Gotcha on that one didn't I. However, if you want to send me a
check
> for $10,000 I promise not to gamble for six months. Send me one

for

> $20,000 and I'll add in my wife.

Problem is, you'd promise and then you'd state, thru your usual
weasel-wording, that all the payments were about is promising and

not

doing. Your life is about and around video poker and you know it,

and

you've totally corrupted your wife with the same degeneracy. You
should be ashamed. But gee, you don't gamble do you---you play with
an edge!
>
> > > > And would you ever be able to post that you lost?
> > >
> > > I lost one year in the last 5 years since I have been keeping
> > records
> > > and was only slightly ahead one other. Of course, I didn't

have

> > much
> > > of an edge before I moved out to LV. It turns out that I

should

> > only
> > > win 60% of the time with the small edge I had. I won two out

of

> > > three. Amazing how my simulations and real life track over

time.

> >
> > Oops! You had to post that didn't you. Do I own you or WHAT?!!
>
> You "own" the record for looking foolish. I have no problem
reporting
> my results. That's because reporting the TRUTH makes you look
foolish
> time and again.

Funny, you seem to have trouble doing just about everything until I
call you on it, then you begin to make things up at a frantic pace.

I

own everything about you because you're life revolves around video
poker and me and you know it. So go break the bad news to your
already-affected wife.
>
> > >
> > > > That's where the
> > > > rubber hits the road, not all your make-believe prowess and
> then
> > > > marginalizing what you do with it. The only difference
between
> > > > Dancer/Scott and yourself is they have something to lose by
> > putting
> > > > up negative numbers in public.
> > >
> > > Just like you.
> >
> > I have nothing to lose. In fact, I'm the only one alive who's
ever
> > told the truth about losing for 6 years. No go back to the
> > theoretical drawing board.
>
> Do I own you or WHAT?!!
>
> > > > > you understand why they call it "Problem Gambling"?
> > > >
> > > > And you would readily tell of your 'other problems' created
by
> > > > gambling?
> > >
> > > If I had any problems caused by gambling I would admit them.
> >
> > Of COURSE you would. Dicky the denyer?
>
> Yes, I would. I think the fact I continue to use facts in all our
> discussion while you scramble around with your lies would

convince

> anyone.

You're so far gone it's somewhere up in the stratosphere. You won't
even admit that you gamble. Run that one by the weenies on vpFREE

and

see what they'd come back with!
>
> >
> > I've
> > > explained this to you before. The biggest downswing I've ever
had
> > is
> > > around $6K. That does not create any problems. I also golf,
bowl,
> > > workout, go to movies, watch too much TV, etc. etc. It's your
> > > constant denial that APers are successful that leads you to
> > > fantasizing about how you'd like my life to be.
> >
> > La la la la la la----music to your ears and no one elses. Lies
are
> > mounting and you're looking dumber all the time. Please keep it
up!
>
> Don't worry. I will.
>
> > >
> > > > I don't think so, in fact, you won't even see the simple
> > > > ones: Unhealthy atmosphere to spend so many hours
within/waste
> > of
> > > > life/disrespecting your spouse by dragging her along with
you.
> > And
> > > > those aren't even touching the surface.
> > >
> > > You wish. Sorry, moron, you are out in left field. You make
these
> > > idiotic claims without knowing a thing about me. To top it

all

> off
> > > you show the world you are a complete fool by denying the

TRUTH

> > about
> > > addiction after I gave you a perfect reference.
> >
> > Now total denial. Have you no shame? And all those words to

boot!

> > Guess who's a little perturbed!
>
> The only denial anyone can see here is YOUR denial of the
information
> provided by the National Council on Problem Gambling. Oh, and the
> fact that you keep thinking you're convincing anyone you haven't
been
> completely outclassed ... again.

Mutated interpretations won't get you off the hook. You're your own
worst enemy, and the battle rages within. Keep it up. I like

watching

the explosions go off.
>
> > > > > > Too much video poker = time away from healthier
activities,
> > > > > > family, and spending too much time in very unhealthy
> > > > environments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please show evidence to support this claim. Compare it to
the
> > > > > environment in the Phoenix area so we can see if it's

worse

> > than
> > > > your day to day environment.
> > > >
> > > > Easy stuff. When you're off to the locals joints every day
for
> > > > hours, I'm jogging (or walking until the foot is repaired),
I'm
> > > > watching our daughter's little girl, working on the
landscaping
> > of
> > > > both our yards, working on restoring my old muscle car, and
> > > counting
> > > > my money won from playing not 2 hours of video poker last
week,
> > > when
> > > > I came home with another $10,800 profit on $16,500 in

W2G's.

> And
> > > all
> > > > this is done on a daily basis without sufferring thru LV-

like

> > > > gridlock traffic, in a wide open area north of the city.

Now

if
> > I
> > > > were still in my long-term strategy mode of 1990-1996, I'd

be

> > going
> > > > back and forth to Nevada playing for 6-10 or more hours a

day

> > > > thinking that I could beat the computers one-on-one.
> > >
> > > I said PROOF. Please show an environmental comparison between
the
> > air
> > > in the Phoenix area and that in a Las Vegas casino.

Otherwise,

> you
> > > simply show you know nothing about what you are saying.
> >
> > Oh the air in the Indian casinos over here is every bit as

stale,

> > stagnant and unhealthy as the air in the local joints you hang
out
> > at over there. Outside, I have no idea.
>
> Clearly. However, that didn't stop you from claiming that the
> environment in NV casinos was worse than Phoenix. You just

admitted

> to another lie. How nice.

Did you read what I wrote, or are you reading from some other

website

that standardizes all your odd thoughts?
>
> > > > > Knowledge avoids the pitfalls of looking like a fool. Now
> that
> > > > you've
> > > > > been educated I expect more intelligent responses in the
> > future.
> > > >
> > > > You've shown no knowledge here--only how you'd like it to

be

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:
so
> > > that
> > > > you won't be classified as a problem gambler.
> > >
> > > Still denying the facts even after I showed an undeniable
> > reference.
> > > It doesn't get any better than this. LMAO, as always.
> >
> > I see you deleted some of the more poignant issues and words.
Keep
> > it up!
>
> No, I only delete your babbling.

I'd be embarrassed too if I were you. You know what I mean. It's OK
though. No one else need know.
>

[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> >
> > Nope. I think I went to your site one time when I was building
the
> > simulator and wanted to get a better description of your
> progressive
> > system. On the other hand, you keep copying your idiotic

articles

> to
> > this forum where I get to see them if I want to or not.
>
> Liar. I've had my web master do a search. He has no idea who you
are
> (who does?) and he never heard of you until he read what a weasel
you
> were in my column. Your address shows up more than a dozen times

in

> the past 8 weeks. Liar.

Sorry, but it wasn't me. The only time I was there was back in
January. Maybe your webmaster is playing with your mind ...

More than likely, you're playing with your own. It's your only way
out of this....in your mind.

Did you count access to each webpage as a separate visit? I suppose

a

techno-weenis like yourself would not understand that on ONE visit

a

person may access several different webpages.

> > > Got a life, and from the constant look of things, one in

which

> you
> > > are extremely jealous of. Come to think of it, what addict
> wouldn't
> > > be??
> >
> > The life of a liar and a fraud? A person who fantasizes about
being
> > something he can never be, a VP guru? I think I'll pass.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if you spent entire nights dreaming about
me.

ROTFLMAO. You really need help comprehending reality.

And days....

> >
> > > > > You asked for it!
> > > >
> > > > No I didn't. However, I do get inane responses from you

quite

> > > often.
> > >
> > > Yes you did.
> >
> > I know.
> > > > > Translation: You can't keep up with how many times you

lie

> > about
> > > my
> > > > > lying.
> > > >
> > > > I don't try to keep up with your lying. That would be a

full

> time
> > > job.
> > >
> > > Re-read what I said.
> >
> > Don't have to. Note that I specifically said "... keep up with
your
> > lying". I did that to remove ALL ambiguity. Only a very slow
person
> > with cat litter for brains couldn't figure that one out.
>
> Irrelevant. Name the lies. That's the only support that'll save
face
> for you here. All your scrambling constitutes confusion.

I name each and every lie as I go. I have no need to rehash them.
However, if you send me your GT article I'd be happy to point out

all the lies in there.

The mere fact that you've already read it--probably several times--
confirms your inability to EVER name lies supposedly told by me. You
need to brush up on how you present yourself here.

> >
> > > > > > 4. Name the number of people who think VP is

controlled

by
> a
> > > > > switch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess you
are
> > > > beyond
> > > > > > hope. You should get out once in awhile.
> > > > >
> > > > > Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now

support

it.
> > > >
> > > > No, I asserted a common well known situation. I stand by my
> > answer.
> > >
> > > You bumbled through your usual made up nonsense, which is why
you
> > > aren.t able to respond to this one either. Again, support
> > your 'well
> > > known situation' which doesn't exist.
> >
> > I leave it to the readers to determine whether they believe my
> > assertion or not. I'm very compfortable with that because I

know

> that
> > anyone who has spent anytime in a casino has heard it before.
>
> You know wrong. I don't listen to babble when I'm playing, and

when

> I'm done I don't hang around for chit-chat.

On one hand you tell us about all your buddies at the casinos where
you can get information.

That's EMPLOYEES, Mr. Wizard. And they don't hang around the
degenerate machines like self-proclaimed "AP's" do.

Now you tell us you don't hang around

and "chit-chat". Clearly you've got one of your lies confused.

Figure it out and then pretend you missed it again.

> > "When are they going to loosen 'em up?"
> > "Boy are these machines tight"
> > "You think they could let us win once in while"
> >
> > The fact that you express doubt about this shows you lack any
> > understanding of a typical casino environment. No wonder

everyone

> > laughs when you state you are some kind of guru.
>
> Not doubt. I don't care about it.

That's fine, but I don't think your fantasy of becoming a guru will
ever come true with this approach.

I am, and have been for 7 years now, the guru that you detest. Why?
Because you can't make it, you can't 'belong' (remember, you MUST go
to a vpFREE luncheon FIRST if you want to have any hope at all in
belonging) and you have no idea on how to win without over-inflating
all your precious comps. A nerd like you likely also adds an
inflation index to the cash back!

Maybe you should ask your GT buddy

Elliot to help you understand what REALLY goes on inside a casino.
He's much more knowledgeable than you are.

You mean the mercy-hire?? HAHAHA! He's the only 'writer' alive that
still scratches his old man's butt and comes up with math BS instead
of the true fact that Lenny never won and believed no one could win.

> >
> > >
> > > > Now, tell me you never heard this remark EVER in a casino,
Mr.
> > > Guru.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Never. Ever. Remember, I don't hang around the degenerates

and

> > > idiots you do as you play your so-called advantage vp.
> >
> > Sorry, but none of these individuals would be considered an AP.

I

> > love it when you show display your complete ignorance.
>
> I didn't say that. Anyone who considers themself an 'AP'

obviously

> plays at, eats at, and oogles over everything about the local

dumps

> you hang out at. Most of these people are weird, they dress
straight
> from K-Mart, many are obese, most smoke, and they all have a lost
> life like you do.

There you go with those generalizations again.

Whenever you take a shot to the gonads, this is your predictable
reaction.

I didn't think Dave

liked people who generalize.

Dave?

The fact is the APers are just another

typical cross-section of people. Some are fat, some aren't, some
dress well, some don't, few of them are smokers.

Wrong. MOST are undesireable as you stated.

This is just another

of your idiotic attempts to put down APers, just like your idiotic
addiction claims where I proved you have no knowledge whatsoever.

You need a session at one of those luncheons for a slap of reality.
Take a look at all your fellow "AP's"! Not a pretty site.

> >
> > > First it's 'OK (I'll quit while behind), then it's Hazel?
You're
> so
> > > confused you couldn't even hold a high pair here if it looked
you
> > in
> > > the eye!
> >
> > I didn't know high pairs had the ability to "look". Must be
> something
> > that happens in one of your fantasies. You know, the same ones
> where
> > you are perceived as a VP guru.
>
> So you agree you 'looked' stupid....and still do....over Hazel.

No, I just gave you an example of a person who has made a "switch"
statement ... as you requested. We all know exactly who is "looking
stupid".

Is that supposed to make sense to a normal person, or are you
agreeing again that you look stupid?

> > > > > I don't care who your hero is nor do I even wonder about
that
> > > > switch
> > > > > thing you made up. You go agonize over that meaningless
stuff
> > in
> > > > > your own little introvert world and you'll be just fine.
> > > >
> > > > Can't figure it out, can you? You know, if you want to be
> > > considered
> > > > a guru at VP you really should get out once in awhile and

see

> > > what's
> > > > going on.
> > >
> > > So let's get this right: Gurus MUST know this trudeau hero of
> > yours,
> >
> > Trudeau is a con man just like you and try to stay up with the
> > conversation. I was referring to the mythical "switch", moron.
>
> The original question was does he take money from people like
Dancer
> and Scott and Hughes, or does he help people perform whatever he
does
> better for free. If he does the former, then he's a con man, yes.

What part of "medical-scam" didn't you understand? That alcohol has
really messed with your cat-liter. If you want to know more try
google.

"Medical scam" implies nothing about taking money from unsuspecting
people like your heroes do every day. You call me a scammer all the
time, yet I don't take anyone's money for assistance. HELLO!! Anyone
home in there, McFLY??

> >
> > > and they MUST have heard someone talk about the famous switch
in
> a
> > > casino. Are you sure you're operating within your limitations?
> >
> > Keep it up. I love it when you make a complete fool of yourself
and
> > have no clue while you're doing it.
>
> I think you lost track here.

You wish.

??

> >
> > > > > On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you

want

to
> > be
> > > > > known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your
> > nonsensical
> > > > > self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't even

get

a
> > > write-
> > > > > in vote!
> > > >
> > > > A self-proclaimed guru who doesn't have any idea that a

large

> > > number
> > > > of the VP gambling poplution thinks the machines are
controlled
> > > > externally. To state you're a guru while showing your
complete
> > > > ignorance of VP is one BIG laugh. You sure do know how to
look
> > > > foolish.
> > >
> > > That's one grand qualification! I can't imagine what my
students
> > > would say if I told them I was that astute. Then just maybe,
> those
> > > whom i train never heard of it either, and it's just another
one
> of
> > > those make believe 'AP' stories that float around the local
> casinos
> > > making stops at each and every addict's machine daily. You

must

> see
> > > a lot of it.
> >
> > ROTFLMAO. This is toooooooo good to be true. You keep digging
> > yourself in deeper.
>
> ???

I know.

???

> >
> > > > > > You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you
> > > > > are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your lies
for
> > two
> > > > > days.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a
> picture.
> > > Who
> > > > > would keep such a horrid thing??
> > > >
> > > > OK, tell us where you got said picture. This ought to be

fun

> > > seeing
> > > > Robbie scamble for an answer.
> > >
> > > I actually saw 2--one older one from IBM in Rochester, the
other
> a
> > > more recent gem from a security shot at the Edgewater.
> >
> > Sure you did. Please give the dates of the photos ... just in
case
> > you're making this up.
> >
> Again, I said I saw the photos. You care about dates--for what.

You

> worried your 'hair' wasn't in place on that particular day?

Caught in another lie? Of course, this is way tooooooooo easy. I

told

you I worked at IBM and I told you I went to Edgewater. You decided
to use that knowledge to manufacture another lie. Only, you got
caught with your pants down ... again.

Yup, you told me where you spent your geek career and I know people
at the place today. You told me you 'gambled' at Edgewater so I asked
a close friend there--for a small fee--to research something and I'd
come in for a look. You're right--it was tooooooo easy. Now what
about the dates--worried that your 'hair' was out of place??

> > > > > >
> > > > > > > you've been struggling with weight all your life,

which

> > only
> > > > > > > goes to support your introvert label. Too late on
trying
> to
> > > > save
> > > > > > face
> > > > > > > on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the

many

> > > times
> > > > > I've
> > > > > > > tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in

public

> > print
> > > > > now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it.

Then

I
> > can
> > > > add
> > > > > > several items to the Lie list above.
> > > > >
> > > > > BIG lie. Mission accomplished. (Stop changing it).
> > > >
> > > > No, I suspect your article contains several small lies. In
> fact,
> > > I'd
> > > > bet on it and I'd bet I could prove it.
> > >
> > > Name the bet!
> >
> > I haven't read the article yet. Send it to me and I'll list all
the
> > lies for you to think about. At that time we can bet $1000 on
each
> > lie I list. If I prove it's a lie you pay, if I don't I pay.
>
> You know where it is. And you'll lose. List them. I know I'm

gonna

> get you to spend hours chasing nebulous thoughts on how to weasel-
> word your input on them, but go ahead. $1000 a pop. In fact, make
it
> fair and I'll make my own list of items vice-versa. See if you

can

> handle that.

Send me a copy and we can proceed. That's all it takes on your part.

It's 3 clicks away on my site. You've already found it, and I
wouldn't be surprised if you brought the paper home 2 weeks ago. Of
course, that would require you go into a decent property to get one,
and we all know that's not your style. Take the wife to the dumps and
get away as cheaply as possible.

> >
> > > > > Just the fact that you keep talking to it dictates how
you've
> > > been
> > > > > ticked off by it. Just keep on denying. I get a laugh

every

> > time.
> > > >
> > > > "Talking to it"? Are you drinking already?
> > >
> > > My 2-a-day of premium JD Single Barrel commences at 7pm sharp.
> >
> > Sounded more like 7AM.
> >
> > > > > > Got you there, didn't I? This "crack the whip" nonsense
is
> > > > > > demonstrating you have nothing intelligent (or

otherwise)

> to
> > > say.
> > > > > > LMAO.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK. Then just keep doing as I direct you to!
> > > >
> > > > Dream on, monkey boy. Tell us again what a guru you are. We
all
> > > need
> > > > another good laugh.
> > >
> > > I'm a good guru.
> >
> > Is that like a good fairy? ... With cat liter for brains.
>
> I've never had a cat. Does liter taste good? Or is it a quart?

I didn't say you owned a cat, only that you had cat liter for

brains.

Again, is that a liter or a quart?? You're too easy to ridicule at
times, and even when staring you in the face you can't engage!

I suppose you've heard this one either. You know, it's grey and if
you dig in just a little bit your find plenty of sh*t.

You seem rattled--and over this? Re-read your attempt at saying
something and then try again.

> > >
> > > Of course, we all know this is another
> > > > lie. Come on, monkey boy. Back up your newest fantasy claim
or
> > > admit
> > > > you are, once again, lying.
> > >
> > > Back up what--that I saw a few pics of you (one with the
missus)?
> > > OK, I swear it.
> >
> > I suppose you're going to tell us she's fat too. Come on, let's
> hear
> > the dates. I'll accept your assertion if you can provide the
dates.
> > If I don't see any dates then all anyone can assume is that you
are
> > lying.
> >
> No, but she's ugly. I couldn't see the rest of her because as
usual,
> you were in the way.

The lies just keep coming. I'll add this one to the long list.

Why of COURSE they're lies, little dicky! How could you live with
this is they weren't???

> > You'd lose that bet.
>
> With what proof.

The only proof required. My statement.

What bet, what proof?? What statement???

>
> I was trying to determine if there was anything
> > reasonable to use on POSITIVE machines. I found that it

provided

no
> > benefit over playing at an average denomination. I do believe
that
> > some people would find the increased session win rate a good
reason
> > to use it. However, the majority of people would either be
> > uncomfortable at the higher denoms or bored at the lower

denoms.

> And,
> > please, if anyone wants to play a positive progression get rid

of

> the
> > idiotic 100-300 variation and the 40 credit cash out stupidity.
> >
> Don't make things up. Tell the truth about it.

I just did.

> The 'majority' of
> people wouldn't have the discipline, determination, intelligence,
nor
> properly saved gaming-only bankroll to be comfortable or

successful

> at it.

Or cat liter for brains.

I thought it was a quart!

> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
> > > > > > starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt
again.
> > > Come
> > > > > on
> > > > > > Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't

you?

> > > >
> > > > Silence is golden.
> > >
> > > No, golden showers are golden. Get with it.
> >
> > Come clean, Robbie. You were the victim weren't you. That's why
you
> > can't forget about it 40+ years later. I word of advice. Get

over

> it.
>
> If I were a nerd I'd have outright killed myself years ago--not
> slowly deterioriate as you've chosen to do.

Been looking in the mirror again?

And covered myself with 'cat liter'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> > > > > > > a sideshow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just let me know when you want to play. However, let's
make
> > it
> > > > 20K
> > > > > > each.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll play you right now even before my foot operation.

$20k

> > each-
> > > -
> > > > > bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet where

if

I
> > > > produce
> > > > > the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k.
> > > >
> > > > Did I call it? Of course. I made a challenge and Robbie
starts
> > > > scrambling. Come on chicken boy, accept it or not, I don't
> really
> > > > care. Of course, we all know the scrambling will continue.
> > >
> > > Did you read above yet?
> >
> > Yes, you did exactly what you always do. You came back with a
> > different bet. You have a 100% track record of either changing
the
> > bet as you did above or continuing to raise the amount. You

have

> > NEVER once accepted a bet or stayed with a bet. Those two

actions

> are
> > what I call "scrambling". You do it every time and it's
completely
> > predictable.
>
> The bet is the bet as it always has been.

There was NEVER an agreed to bet. You kept changing it all the

time,

just as I described above.

> Now
> keep your facts straight and see if you can do things in this
order:
> 1,2,3. I agree with the $20k. The reason I didn't accept $5k bets
is
> because it's a waste of my time.

Typical excuse.

> I think you got that point
> eventually. So here it is: Tennis & Bowling--ACCEPTED AS YOU

STATE.

> One week after we appear on the radio together to fulfill or

rebuke

> your clear claims which came before your 2 propositions.

Please provide what claims you are referring to. Give the post

where

you think I made these claims. If you can do this I MIGHT

reconsider

the whole radio show thingy.

I'll give you the 2 claims: #1: That I can't produce both my
undergrad EE degree & MBA--to which you stated I could easily produce
them on a $100 printer, and in return I said I would verify all of it
with you on-line or on the phone...or even in writing from the 2
Universities. #2: That I cannot prove that my career has been spent
travelling/living around the world, and I'd present my past and
current Passports, to which you somehow were able to squeeze out that
your famous $100 printer could duplicate all that documentation too.
Jog your memory any??

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

[Rob_Singer1]

Not like you to give up, but I guess a subject that shoots darts
through your heart whenever discussed is that type of subject. It
must be a terrible internal struggle you're going through with all
this denial, pretending, and self-manufactured interpretations on
what constitutes compulsive gaming. I among others feel sorry for you
and the missus (who's probably so controlled she doesn't feel a thing
anyway).

I have nothing more to add to this thread. I've given Rob a direct
link to:

http://www.ncpgambling.org/

and he has chosen to ignore the facts and continue to offer only

lies

and ignorance instead. So be it. If he wishes to play the role of

an

uneducatable fool, that is his right. For others who want to know
more, I did a google search on "gambling addiction" to get this
reference and many others.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > I gave you some websites previously. You ignored them.
> Start
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ncpgambling.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that they talk about "problem gambling" rather

than

> > > > > addiction.
> > > > > > You see "my words" actually indicate I know what I'm
> talking
> > > > > about.
> > > > > > If you really wanted to know the truth you would have
read
> > > some
> > > > of
> > > > > > this information when I challenged you previously.
Clearly,
> > > you
> > > > > > weren't interested in the TRUTH then, and I suspect
you're
> > not
> > > > > > interested in the TRUTH now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Should I have expcted anything other than this?
> > > >
> > > > The TRUTH? Yes, you should have expected it.
> > >
> > > Truth? Why, because there's a scenario in there that gets you
off
> > > the self-incriminating hook?
> >
> > Not a scenario. The entire definition of addiction and how it
> applies
> > to problem gambling. I realize this completely invalidates
> everything
> > you've been saying for many years now. Sorry, but the facts are
the
> > facts.
>
> Listen to your interpretations, and one would be led to think
there's
> no such thing as the problem that plagues you and others like

you.

> Addicts will do anything to explain away that corrupt portion of
> their lives.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > All you're doing, as
> > > > > a genuine addict who has a real-life problem with

gambling,

> is
> > > > > identifying to the world that you constantly WONDER about
> your
> > > > issue
> > > > > with gambling by researching it and studying what it's

all

> > about,
> > > >
> > > > Nope. "All" I'm doing is presenting facts. You should try

it

> > > sometime.
> > >
> > > What facts. You search all the time for rationale that'll

help

> > > explain away your troubles. That's the first fact you need to
> face.
> >
> > Don't need a rationale, now do I? I have the facts, presented
> clearly
> > by the experts in the field. What do you have? Zilch.
>
> Rationale = facts to you, so you DO need rationale. It's the only
way
> you can justify leading such a mutated-style life these days.
> >
> > > > I guess Robbie decided no to ignore the facts once again. I
> gave
> > > him
> > > > a chance to get educated and he runs away like a wounded
puppy.
> > >
> > > And that says WHAT about your shameless ignorance towards

your

> > > family??
> >
> > Nothing. I get along very well with my family.
>
> When video poker is the main driver in a life, there is no

family,

> that is, until someone challenges you on it.
> >
> > > > > You continue to develop confidence-building scenarios as
you
> > > stuff
> > > > > that foot deeper and deeper into your mouth. How do you
think
> > > all
> > > > > this would sound if we were discussing it on the radio--

"I

> > moved
> > > to
> > > > > LV so I could play video poker every day, I dragged my

poor

> > wife
> > > > > into the gutter along with me, we just can't leave town
more
> > > than
> > > > > once every 3 months to visit family--and even then we

stop

at
> > > > Indian
> > > > > casinos every opportunity that arises, I'm not addicted
> though
> > > > > because I found an obscure article that can be construed

if

> > read
> > > > > with a liberal mind, as saying no one ever is addicted to
> > > gambling.
> > > > > Besides, I don't gamble anyway. I'm an "ADVANTAGE

player"!

> God
> > > save
> > > > > this guy from himself.
> > > >
> > > > Lot's of words. No information. Sorry, Robbie, you just

said

> > > > absolutely nothing. And, it took you a lot of typing. Now,

go

> > read
> > > up
> > > > on gambling problems so you can at avoid looking like an

even

> > > bigger
> > > > fool than you do right now.
> > >
> > > Apparently, lots of TOUGH TO READ words to you. Why else

would

> you
> > > squirm away like that?
> >
> > I didn't. No need to. You tried to contradict what I showed as
> > inescapable evidence about problem gambling. Anyone with half a
> brain
> > can see your babbling was a poor attempt to save face.
>
> You're clearly in denial about this. You'll listen to no one

until

> the day comes when your door to escapism is shut down. Anyone who
can
> read an article abour problem gambling, then come back and
say "see,
> it's not me" along with saying they don't gamble anyway after
> spending the better part of every day IN CASINOS in front of

video

> poker machines, is the true definition of the problem the author
gets
> trhough to everyone but the most severely inflicted.
> >
> > > >
> > > > PS. That "obscure article" is from the National Council on
> > Problem
> > > > Gambling. In case you're wondering, the search that led me

to

> > that
> > > > website came up with 151,000 hits that say pretty much the
same
> > > > thing. You sure do know how to look stupid.
> > >
> > > Oh really. Did you watch the chairman of that group come on

Fox

> the
> > > other night and say how deeply rooted the real problems are
among
> > > those who live in gambling town, LAS VEGAS ESPECIALLY!? Get
your
> > > made-up facts straight and watch TV for a change before

making

a
> > > fool of yourself here again.
> >
> > The fact that there are lots of people with gambling problems
does
> > not change the definition of problem gambling. I didn't see

this

> > piece, however, I suspect it supports what I've told you so

very

> many
> > times. There are very few true APers. There are lots of people
who
> > think they can win.
>
> Another of your famous "escape clauses". Your heroes Scott &

Dancer

> use this one all the time. "Yes, AP's can lose, but it's the

other

> guys who lose and not us". Or "Yes, there are many addicts who
> shouldn't really be playing APVP, but that's not me--I do it for
> recreation or profit only, and I am therefore not an addict or
> problem gambler." It goes on and on and is nothing but utilizing
self-
> confidence building blocks on the road to nowhere. Just like you.
> Just once I'd like you to come clean here and say you are

addicted

to
> the game, without all the sugar coating of saying "but it's not a
> problem for me like it is for others because I win". Just say it
> clear and simple and you'll get more respect from everyone. It
isn't
> that difficult. I did it when I first came out and it's led to
being
> able to be truthful about everything video poker since. You don't
> believe that because it just doesn't fit your perceived scenario

of

> what i do and how I do it, but the only person it matters to is

me.

> Do it and you'll see.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Addictions to anything are negative influences and

you

> know
> > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I love it when you are so completely wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > And I love it when you are stopped cold with the facts.
> > > >
> > > > Produce just ONE supported fact and I would be amazed.
> > >
> > > Fact: You're a pathological gambling addict.
> >
> > I'm glad you went to the website and did some reading. The use

of

> the
> > word "pathological" is one of the terms they use. Of course,

you

> > should now understand your usage here is not true. That makes

it

> > another intentional lie. What a surprise. Oh, and where is that
> > supporting evidence?
>
> I didn't read the site. I've already heard and read it all when I
> admitted I had the problem 10 years ago. Updates come in the

news,

> and rather than frantically searching for feel-good

interpretations

> all over the Internet, you'd get far more out of listening to
others
> who've had a history of it or treat those inflicted. Truth is you
ARE
> a pathological gambling addict, video poker specifically, and
you're
> in a group that's FAR larger than you'd like to know about. Your
> education on this subject is just beginning, and I suspect you'll
be
> a graduate in it within 3 years from now.
> >
> > > > > > That's clearly a major part of it. By far, the majority
of
> > > > > problems
> > > > > > that result from gambling are due to losing money. If

you

> > > still
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > understand this maybe I need to give you some more
> > references.
> > > > > Now,
> > > > > > if you want to use me as an example, fine. Before I
> > understood
> > > > > > anything about advantage play my wife and I averaged
about
> 1
> > > > > gambling
> > > > > > trip a year and set aside a predefined amount that we
would
> > > lose.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > did this for 20+ years. We never lost all that money on

a

> > > single
> > > > > > trip. Why? We understood the potential problem areas
> upfront.
> > > > > Still
> > > > > > do.
> > > > >
> > > > > La la la la la la la la la la....
> > > >
> > > > Sounds about right for Robbie. I can just picture him with
his
> > > hands
> > > > over his ears not wanting to hear the truth.
> > >
> > > What I tend to ignore is your continued justifications for

what

> you
> > > do. A sick mind is corrupted even further, and that's exactly
> where
> > > you proudly are today.
> >
> > I guess your comprehension failed you again. Now, go back and
> reread
> > the website, shuffle that cat litter around, and then maybe you
can
> > keep up.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > On and on with the self-
> > > > > justifications and how you are one of the few exceptions

to

> > > losing
> > > > > play. You don't see it do you. Here's a challenge. Take a

6

> > > month
> > > > > retreat up in that shack in Minnesota where you don't go

to

> > that
> > > > > biased Indian casino, and do nothing but enjoy life and
have
> > > family
> > > > > visit. See if you can do it.
> > > >
> > > > I do it all Robbie. I have family visits, I enjoy life and

I

> > > gamble.
> > > > Tell me the last time you went 6 months without gambling?
> > >
> > > Gee, I don't gamble. i only play with an edge.
> >
> > Gotcha on that one didn't I. However, if you want to send me a
> check
> > for $10,000 I promise not to gamble for six months. Send me one
for
> > $20,000 and I'll add in my wife.
>
> Problem is, you'd promise and then you'd state, thru your usual
> weasel-wording, that all the payments were about is promising and
not
> doing. Your life is about and around video poker and you know it,
and
> you've totally corrupted your wife with the same degeneracy. You
> should be ashamed. But gee, you don't gamble do you---you play

with

> an edge!
> >
> > > > > And would you ever be able to post that you lost?
> > > >
> > > > I lost one year in the last 5 years since I have been

keeping

> > > records
> > > > and was only slightly ahead one other. Of course, I didn't
have
> > > much
> > > > of an edge before I moved out to LV. It turns out that I
should
> > > only
> > > > win 60% of the time with the small edge I had. I won two

out

of
> > > > three. Amazing how my simulations and real life track over
time.
> > >
> > > Oops! You had to post that didn't you. Do I own you or WHAT?!!
> >
> > You "own" the record for looking foolish. I have no problem
> reporting
> > my results. That's because reporting the TRUTH makes you look
> foolish
> > time and again.
>
> Funny, you seem to have trouble doing just about everything until

I

> call you on it, then you begin to make things up at a frantic

pace.

I
> own everything about you because you're life revolves around

video

> poker and me and you know it. So go break the bad news to your
> already-affected wife.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > That's where the
> > > > > rubber hits the road, not all your make-believe prowess

and

> > then
> > > > > marginalizing what you do with it. The only difference
> between
> > > > > Dancer/Scott and yourself is they have something to lose

by

> > > putting
> > > > > up negative numbers in public.
> > > >
> > > > Just like you.
> > >
> > > I have nothing to lose. In fact, I'm the only one alive who's
> ever
> > > told the truth about losing for 6 years. No go back to the
> > > theoretical drawing board.
> >
> > Do I own you or WHAT?!!
> >
> > > > > > you understand why they call it "Problem Gambling"?
> > > > >
> > > > > And you would readily tell of your 'other problems'

created

> by
> > > > > gambling?
> > > >
> > > > If I had any problems caused by gambling I would admit them.
> > >
> > > Of COURSE you would. Dicky the denyer?
> >
> > Yes, I would. I think the fact I continue to use facts in all

our

> > discussion while you scramble around with your lies would
convince
> > anyone.
>
> You're so far gone it's somewhere up in the stratosphere. You

won't

> even admit that you gamble. Run that one by the weenies on vpFREE
and
> see what they'd come back with!
> >
> > >
> > > I've
> > > > explained this to you before. The biggest downswing I've

ever

> had
> > > is
> > > > around $6K. That does not create any problems. I also golf,
> bowl,
> > > > workout, go to movies, watch too much TV, etc. etc. It's

your

> > > > constant denial that APers are successful that leads you to
> > > > fantasizing about how you'd like my life to be.
> > >
> > > La la la la la la----music to your ears and no one elses.

Lies

> are
> > > mounting and you're looking dumber all the time. Please keep

it

> up!
> >
> > Don't worry. I will.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > I don't think so, in fact, you won't even see the simple
> > > > > ones: Unhealthy atmosphere to spend so many hours
> within/waste
> > > of
> > > > > life/disrespecting your spouse by dragging her along with
> you.
> > > And
> > > > > those aren't even touching the surface.
> > > >
> > > > You wish. Sorry, moron, you are out in left field. You make
> these
> > > > idiotic claims without knowing a thing about me. To top it
all
> > off
> > > > you show the world you are a complete fool by denying the
TRUTH
> > > about
> > > > addiction after I gave you a perfect reference.
> > >
> > > Now total denial. Have you no shame? And all those words to
boot!
> > > Guess who's a little perturbed!
> >
> > The only denial anyone can see here is YOUR denial of the
> information
> > provided by the National Council on Problem Gambling. Oh, and

the

> > fact that you keep thinking you're convincing anyone you

haven't

> been
> > completely outclassed ... again.
>
> Mutated interpretations won't get you off the hook. You're your

own

> worst enemy, and the battle rages within. Keep it up. I like
watching
> the explosions go off.
> >
> > > > > > > Too much video poker = time away from healthier
> activities,
> > > > > > > family, and spending too much time in very unhealthy
> > > > > environments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please show evidence to support this claim. Compare it

to

> the
> > > > > > environment in the Phoenix area so we can see if it's
worse
> > > than
> > > > > your day to day environment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Easy stuff. When you're off to the locals joints every

day

> for
> > > > > hours, I'm jogging (or walking until the foot is

repaired),

> I'm
> > > > > watching our daughter's little girl, working on the
> landscaping
> > > of
> > > > > both our yards, working on restoring my old muscle car,

and

> > > > counting
> > > > > my money won from playing not 2 hours of video poker last
> week,
> > > > when
> > > > > I came home with another $10,800 profit on $16,500 in
W2G's.
> > And
> > > > all
> > > > > this is done on a daily basis without sufferring thru LV-
like
> > > > > gridlock traffic, in a wide open area north of the city.
Now
> if
> > > I
> > > > > were still in my long-term strategy mode of 1990-1996,

I'd

be
> > > going
> > > > > back and forth to Nevada playing for 6-10 or more hours a
day
> > > > > thinking that I could beat the computers one-on-one.
> > > >
> > > > I said PROOF. Please show an environmental comparison

between

> the
> > > air
> > > > in the Phoenix area and that in a Las Vegas casino.
Otherwise,
> > you
> > > > simply show you know nothing about what you are saying.
> > >
> > > Oh the air in the Indian casinos over here is every bit as
stale,
> > > stagnant and unhealthy as the air in the local joints you

hang

> out
> > > at over there. Outside, I have no idea.
> >
> > Clearly. However, that didn't stop you from claiming that the
> > environment in NV casinos was worse than Phoenix. You just
admitted
> > to another lie. How nice.
>
> Did you read what I wrote, or are you reading from some other
website
> that standardizes all your odd thoughts?
> >
> > > > > > Knowledge avoids the pitfalls of looking like a fool.

Now

> > that
> > > > > you've
> > > > > > been educated I expect more intelligent responses in

the

> > > future.
> > > > >
> > > > > You've shown no knowledge here--only how you'd like it to
be
> so
> > > > that
> > > > > you won't be classified as a problem gambler.
> > > >
> > > > Still denying the facts even after I showed an undeniable
> > > reference.
> > > > It doesn't get any better than this. LMAO, as always.
> > >
> > > I see you deleted some of the more poignant issues and words.
> Keep
> > > it up!
> >
> > No, I only delete your babbling.
>
> I'd be embarrassed too if I were you. You know what I mean. It's

OK

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:
> though. No one else need know.
> >
>

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > were in my column. Your address shows up more than a dozen

times

in
> > the past 8 weeks. Liar.
>
> Sorry, but it wasn't me. The only time I was there was back in
> January. Maybe your webmaster is playing with your mind ...

More than likely, you're playing with your own. It's your only way
out of this....in your mind.

Then again, this is probably just another lie. You know, just like
the one where you claimed to have seen a picture of me but can't back
up the claim.

>
> Did you count access to each webpage as a separate visit? I

suppose

a
> techno-weenis like yourself would not understand that on ONE

visit

a
> person may access several different webpages.
>
> > > > Got a life, and from the constant look of things, one in
which
> > you
> > > > are extremely jealous of. Come to think of it, what addict
> > wouldn't
> > > > be??
> > >
> > > The life of a liar and a fraud? A person who fantasizes about
> being
> > > something he can never be, a VP guru? I think I'll pass.
> >
> > I wouldn't be surprised if you spent entire nights dreaming

about

> me.
>
> ROTFLMAO. You really need help comprehending reality.

And days....

Yes. I don't think you comprehend reality then either.

>
> > >
> > > > > > You asked for it!
> > > > >
> > > > > No I didn't. However, I do get inane responses from you
quite
> > > > often.
> > > >
> > > > Yes you did.
> > >
> > > I know.
> > > > Re-read what I said.
> > >
> > > Don't have to. Note that I specifically said "... keep up

with

> your
> > > lying". I did that to remove ALL ambiguity. Only a very slow
> person
> > > with cat litter for brains couldn't figure that one out.
> >
> > Irrelevant. Name the lies. That's the only support that'll save
> face
> > for you here. All your scrambling constitutes confusion.
>
> I name each and every lie as I go. I have no need to rehash them.
> However, if you send me your GT article I'd be happy to point out
all the lies in there.

The mere fact that you've already read it--probably several times--

Sorry to disappoint you ... again. I STILL have never read GT. But, I
now suspect there never was an article. Otherwise you would have
posted it here like you've done many times.

>
> > >
> > > > > > > 4. Name the number of people who think VP is
controlled
> by
> > a
> > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess

you

> are
> > > > > beyond
> > > > > > > hope. You should get out once in awhile.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now
support
> it.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I asserted a common well known situation. I stand by

my

> > > answer.
> > > >
> > > > You bumbled through your usual made up nonsense, which is

why

> you
> > > > aren.t able to respond to this one either. Again, support
> > > your 'well
> > > > known situation' which doesn't exist.
> > >
> > > I leave it to the readers to determine whether they believe

my

> > > assertion or not. I'm very compfortable with that because I
know
> > that
> > > anyone who has spent anytime in a casino has heard it before.
> >
> > You know wrong. I don't listen to babble when I'm playing, and
when
> > I'm done I don't hang around for chit-chat.
>
> On one hand you tell us about all your buddies at the casinos

where

> you can get information.

That's EMPLOYEES, Mr. Wizard. And they don't hang around the
degenerate machines like self-proclaimed "AP's" do.

If you don't "hang around", then you don't talk with employees
either. Next time you DO "hang around" ASK them about the people that
think the payoffs are controlled externally. I'm sure they hear it
all the time.

> > > "When are they going to loosen 'em up?"
> > > "Boy are these machines tight"
> > > "You think they could let us win once in while"
> > >
> > > The fact that you express doubt about this shows you lack any
> > > understanding of a typical casino environment. No wonder
everyone
> > > laughs when you state you are some kind of guru.
> >
> > Not doubt. I don't care about it.
>
> That's fine, but I don't think your fantasy of becoming a guru

will

> ever come true with this approach.

I am, and have been for 7 years now, the guru that you detest. Why?

Because you are a liar and a fraud.

Maybe you should ask your GT buddy
> Elliot to help you understand what REALLY goes on inside a

casino.

> He's much more knowledgeable than you are.

You mean the mercy-hire?? HAHAHA! He's the only 'writer' alive that
still scratches his old man's butt and comes up with math BS

instead

of the true fact that Lenny never won and believed no one could win.

But he's sooooo much more knowledgeable than you are. He makes you
look like the scum at the bottem of the sewer. He comes across as
extremely intelligent while you appear to have cat litter for brains.

This is just another
> of your idiotic attempts to put down APers, just like your

idiotic

> addiction claims where I proved you have no knowledge whatsoever.

You need a session at one of those luncheons for a slap of reality.
Take a look at all your fellow "AP's"! Not a pretty site.

I play next to other APers on a regular basis. Except for being
extremely intelligent they are not unlike any other cross-section of
people.

> > > Trudeau is a con man just like you and try to stay up with

the

> > > conversation. I was referring to the mythical "switch",

moron.

> >
> > The original question was does he take money from people like
> Dancer
> > and Scott and Hughes, or does he help people perform whatever

he

> does
> > better for free. If he does the former, then he's a con man,

yes.

>
> What part of "medical-scam" didn't you understand? That alcohol

has

> really messed with your cat-liter. If you want to know more try
> google.

"Medical scam" implies nothing about taking money from unsuspecting
people like your heroes do every day. You call me a scammer all the
time, yet I don't take anyone's money for assistance. HELLO!!

Anyone

home in there, McFLY??

For starters you wrote a book that contains lies and misleading
information. That is a scam. It takes money from unsuspecting folks
(albeit only a few since it has gotten such bad reviews).

> > > Keep it up. I love it when you make a complete fool of

yourself

> and
> > > have no clue while you're doing it.
> >
> > I think you lost track here.
>
> You wish.

??

Right on cue.

>
> > >
> > > > > > On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you
want
> to
> > > be
> > > > > > known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your
> > > nonsensical
> > > > > > self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't even
get
> a
> > > > write-
> > > > > > in vote!
> > > > >
> > > > > A self-proclaimed guru who doesn't have any idea that a
large
> > > > number
> > > > > of the VP gambling poplution thinks the machines are
> controlled
> > > > > externally. To state you're a guru while showing your
> complete
> > > > > ignorance of VP is one BIG laugh. You sure do know how to
> look
> > > > > foolish.
> > > >
> > > > That's one grand qualification! I can't imagine what my
> students
> > > > would say if I told them I was that astute. Then just

maybe,

> > those
> > > > whom i train never heard of it either, and it's just

another

> one
> > of
> > > > those make believe 'AP' stories that float around the local
> > casinos
> > > > making stops at each and every addict's machine daily. You
must
> > see
> > > > a lot of it.
> > >
> > > ROTFLMAO. This is toooooooo good to be true. You keep digging
> > > yourself in deeper.
> >
> > ???
>
> I know.

???

I know.

>
> > >
> > > > > > > You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating you
> > > > > > are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your

lies

> for
> > > two
> > > > > > days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a
> > picture.
> > > > Who
> > > > > > would keep such a horrid thing??
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, tell us where you got said picture. This ought to be
fun
> > > > seeing
> > > > > Robbie scamble for an answer.
> > > >
> > > > I actually saw 2--one older one from IBM in Rochester, the
> other
> > a
> > > > more recent gem from a security shot at the Edgewater.
> > >
> > > Sure you did. Please give the dates of the photos ... just in
> case
> > > you're making this up.
> > >
> > Again, I said I saw the photos. You care about dates--for what.
You
> > worried your 'hair' wasn't in place on that particular day?
>
> Caught in another lie? Of course, this is way tooooooooo easy. I
told
> you I worked at IBM and I told you I went to Edgewater. You

decided

> to use that knowledge to manufacture another lie. Only, you got
> caught with your pants down ... again.

Yup, you told me where you spent your geek career and I know people
at the place today. You told me you 'gambled' at Edgewater so I

asked

a close friend there--for a small fee--to research something and

I'd

come in for a look. You're right--it was tooooooo easy. Now what
about the dates--worried that your 'hair' was out of place??

Sure, monkey boy. Let's see the proof. LMAO. Keep up the babbling, it
makes you look soooooooooooooooooo foolish.

>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > you've been struggling with weight all your life,
which
> > > only
> > > > > > > > goes to support your introvert label. Too late on
> trying
> > to
> > > > > save
> > > > > > > face
> > > > > > > > on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with the
many
> > > > times
> > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in
public
> > > print
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it.
Then
> I
> > > can
> > > > > add
> > > > > > > several items to the Lie list above.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BIG lie. Mission accomplished. (Stop changing it).
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I suspect your article contains several small lies.

In

> > fact,
> > > > I'd
> > > > > bet on it and I'd bet I could prove it.
> > > >
> > > > Name the bet!
> > >
> > > I haven't read the article yet. Send it to me and I'll list

all

> the
> > > lies for you to think about. At that time we can bet $1000 on
> each
> > > lie I list. If I prove it's a lie you pay, if I don't I pay.
> >
> > You know where it is. And you'll lose. List them. I know I'm
gonna
> > get you to spend hours chasing nebulous thoughts on how to

weasel-

> > word your input on them, but go ahead. $1000 a pop. In fact,

make

> it
> > fair and I'll make my own list of items vice-versa. See if you
can
> > handle that.
>
> Send me a copy and we can proceed. That's all it takes on your

part.

It's 3 clicks away on my site. You've already found it, and I
wouldn't be surprised if you brought the paper home 2 weeks ago. Of
course, that would require you go into a decent property to get

one,

and we all know that's not your style. Take the wife to the dumps

and

get away as cheaply as possible.

I'm beginning to think there is no article. So far, Absolutely no one
has mentioned any article to me. I guess that pretty much defines Rob
Singers' influence in the VP community whether the article exists or
not.

> I suppose you've heard this one either. You know, it's grey and

if

> you dig in just a little bit your find plenty of sh*t.
>
You seem rattled--and over this? Re-read your attempt at saying
something and then try again.

If your going to get hung up on spelling errors then I guess you've
now reached the bottem of the barrel. So far I've ignored the
hundreds of these errors in your posts. I have more than enough to
deal with the content of your posts.

> > > >
> > > > Of course, we all know this is another
> > > > > lie. Come on, monkey boy. Back up your newest fantasy

claim

> or
> > > > admit
> > > > > you are, once again, lying.
> > > >
> > > > Back up what--that I saw a few pics of you (one with the
> missus)?
> > > > OK, I swear it.
> > >
> > > I suppose you're going to tell us she's fat too. Come on,

let's

> > hear
> > > the dates. I'll accept your assertion if you can provide the
> dates.
> > > If I don't see any dates then all anyone can assume is that

you

> are
> > > lying.
> > >
> > No, but she's ugly. I couldn't see the rest of her because as
> usual,
> > you were in the way.
>
> The lies just keep coming. I'll add this one to the long list.

Why of COURSE they're lies, little dicky! How could you live with
this is they weren't???

You couldn't see her because she was blocked off. But, you state
she's ugly. Chuckle, chuckle. Your lies are getting soooooooo
obvious. Give us a better description ... height, hair color, etc.
etc. ... What? ... You can't do it? What a surprise. Your lies are
getting easier and easier to uncover.

> > > > > > The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
> > > > > > > starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to hurt
> again.
> > > > Come
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim, weren't
you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Silence is golden.
> > > >
> > > > No, golden showers are golden. Get with it.
> > >
> > > Come clean, Robbie. You were the victim weren't you. That's

why

> you
> > > can't forget about it 40+ years later. I word of advice. Get
over
> > it.
> >
> > If I were a nerd I'd have outright killed myself years ago--not
> > slowly deterioriate as you've chosen to do.
>
> Been looking in the mirror again?

And covered myself with 'cat liter'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You opened you mouth? Bad idea.

>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> > > > > > > > a sideshow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just let me know when you want to play. However,

let's

> make
> > > it
> > > > > 20K
> > > > > > > each.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll play you right now even before my foot operation.
$20k
> > > each-
> > > > -
> > > > > > bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet where
if
> I
> > > > > produce
> > > > > > the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did I call it? Of course. I made a challenge and Robbie
> starts
> > > > > scrambling. Come on chicken boy, accept it or not, I

don't

> > really
> > > > > care. Of course, we all know the scrambling will continue.
> > > >
> > > > Did you read above yet?
> > >
> > > Yes, you did exactly what you always do. You came back with a
> > > different bet. You have a 100% track record of either

changing

> the
> > > bet as you did above or continuing to raise the amount. You
have
> > > NEVER once accepted a bet or stayed with a bet. Those two
actions
> > are
> > > what I call "scrambling". You do it every time and it's
> completely
> > > predictable.
> >
> > The bet is the bet as it always has been.
>
> There was NEVER an agreed to bet. You kept changing it all the
time,
> just as I described above.
>
> > Now
> > keep your facts straight and see if you can do things in this
> order:
> > 1,2,3. I agree with the $20k. The reason I didn't accept $5k

bets

> is
> > because it's a waste of my time.
>
> Typical excuse.
>
> > I think you got that point
> > eventually. So here it is: Tennis & Bowling--ACCEPTED AS YOU
STATE.
> > One week after we appear on the radio together to fulfill or
rebuke
> > your clear claims which came before your 2 propositions.
>
> Please provide what claims you are referring to. Give the post
where
> you think I made these claims. If you can do this I MIGHT
reconsider
> the whole radio show thingy.

I'll give you the 2 claims: #1: That I can't produce both my
undergrad EE degree & MBA--to which you stated I could easily

produce

them on a $100 printer,

So, what's point of having a bet? They can be easily forged. It
doesn't prove a thing. I would never bet on anything that could be
forged by an amateur.

and in return I said I would verify all of it
with you on-line or on the phone...or even in writing from the 2
Universities. #2: That I cannot prove that my career has been spent
travelling/living around the world, and I'd present my past and
current Passports, to which you somehow were able to squeeze out

that

your famous $100 printer could duplicate all that documentation

too.

Jog your memory any??

Once again, everything is forgeable. I can tell you right now I will
never bet on on something like this. I should have known you'd come
up with something like this. Nobody with any sense would accept this
kind of bet. As I said before, you have a 100% record of scrambling.

In fact, let me make it easy for you to look really foolish. I
believe you have both an EE and a MBA and that you've travelled
around the world. Do you really think I believed all the "Who's Fred
Flintstone" BS? I knew all along this was just another one of your
lies. Of course, I played along because it made you look foolish.
However, it didn't fool me for a second. I also know you understand
perfectly well that a progression can't change a negative expectation
into a positive one. I've dealt with other trolls before and have
seen these stupid tricks time and again.

Now, can we get on with the tennis/bowling bet?

[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > were in my column. Your address shows up more than a dozen
times
> in
> > > the past 8 weeks. Liar.
> >
> > Sorry, but it wasn't me. The only time I was there was back in
> > January. Maybe your webmaster is playing with your mind ...
>
> More than likely, you're playing with your own. It's your only

way

> out of this....in your mind.

Then again, this is probably just another lie. You know, just like
the one where you claimed to have seen a picture of me but can't

back

up the claim.

That's your story--the only one that can let you sleep at night. Liar.

> >
> > Did you count access to each webpage as a separate visit? I
suppose
> a
> > techno-weenis like yourself would not understand that on ONE
visit
> a
> > person may access several different webpages.
> >
> > > > > Got a life, and from the constant look of things, one in
> which
> > > you
> > > > > are extremely jealous of. Come to think of it, what

addict

> > > wouldn't
> > > > > be??
> > > >
> > > > The life of a liar and a fraud? A person who fantasizes

about

> > being
> > > > something he can never be, a VP guru? I think I'll pass.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't be surprised if you spent entire nights dreaming
about
> > me.
> >
> > ROTFLMAO. You really need help comprehending reality.
>
> And days....

Yes. I don't think you comprehend reality then either.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > You asked for it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No I didn't. However, I do get inane responses from you
> quite
> > > > > often.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes you did.
> > > >
> > > > I know.
> > > > > Re-read what I said.
> > > >
> > > > Don't have to. Note that I specifically said "... keep up
with
> > your
> > > > lying". I did that to remove ALL ambiguity. Only a very

slow

> > person
> > > > with cat litter for brains couldn't figure that one out.
> > >
> > > Irrelevant. Name the lies. That's the only support that'll

save

> > face
> > > for you here. All your scrambling constitutes confusion.
> >
> > I name each and every lie as I go. I have no need to rehash

them.

> > However, if you send me your GT article I'd be happy to point

out

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> all the lies in there.
>
> The mere fact that you've already read it--probably several times-

-

Sorry to disappoint you ... again. I STILL have never read GT. But,

I

now suspect there never was an article. Otherwise you would have
posted it here like you've done many times.

Re-read it on my site. anytime. I won't block your access.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > 4. Name the number of people who think VP is
> controlled
> > by
> > > a
> > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you haven't heard this claim before then I guess
you
> > are
> > > > > > beyond
> > > > > > > > hope. You should get out once in awhile.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re-read it again, genius. You asserted a fact, now
> support
> > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, I asserted a common well known situation. I stand

by

my
> > > > answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > You bumbled through your usual made up nonsense, which is
why
> > you
> > > > > aren.t able to respond to this one either. Again, support
> > > > your 'well
> > > > > known situation' which doesn't exist.
> > > >
> > > > I leave it to the readers to determine whether they believe
my
> > > > assertion or not. I'm very compfortable with that because I
> know
> > > that
> > > > anyone who has spent anytime in a casino has heard it

before.

> > >
> > > You know wrong. I don't listen to babble when I'm playing,

and

> when
> > > I'm done I don't hang around for chit-chat.
> >
> > On one hand you tell us about all your buddies at the casinos
where
> > you can get information.
>
> That's EMPLOYEES, Mr. Wizard. And they don't hang around the
> degenerate machines like self-proclaimed "AP's" do.

If you don't "hang around", then you don't talk with employees
either.

You're thinking of the low-lifes who work the floors and chit-chat
with the degenerates who gamble day in and day out. I'm talking
employees who who don't stick around and guzzle beer with all the
hard-working boys that trample to the bars in the joints you
frequent.

Next time you DO "hang around" ASK them about the people that

think the payoffs are controlled externally. I'm sure they hear it
all the time.

I will. But why it's important I'll never know.

> > > > "When are they going to loosen 'em up?"
> > > > "Boy are these machines tight"
> > > > "You think they could let us win once in while"
> > > >
> > > > The fact that you express doubt about this shows you lack

any

> > > > understanding of a typical casino environment. No wonder
> everyone
> > > > laughs when you state you are some kind of guru.
> > >
> > > Not doubt. I don't care about it.
> >
> > That's fine, but I don't think your fantasy of becoming a guru
will
> > ever come true with this approach.
>
> I am, and have been for 7 years now, the guru that you detest.

Why?

Because you are a liar and a fraud.

That's not in the dreams you have though, is it.

>
> Maybe you should ask your GT buddy
> > Elliot to help you understand what REALLY goes on inside a
casino.
> > He's much more knowledgeable than you are.
>
> You mean the mercy-hire?? HAHAHA! He's the only 'writer' alive

that

> still scratches his old man's butt and comes up with math BS
instead
> of the true fact that Lenny never won and believed no one could

win.

But he's sooooo much more knowledgeable than you are. He makes you
look like the scum at the bottem of the sewer. He comes across as
extremely intelligent while you appear to have cat litter for

brains.

Now I see you have yet another geek-hero....just like Dan "I lost my
butt and left town, always knowing it was a mistake to live in LV"
Paymar. His BS is as silly as yours. And you wonder why he lives in
the midwest and rarely comes to town to gamble?? He's got one up on
you though. He resisted temptation and stayed put. At least he knows
what addicts are made of. BTW--we're still waiting for you to admit
you're an addict without all the sugar-coated nonsense that you
caveat it with. That's one of the reasons you evacuated from the
other thread.

> This is just another
> > of your idiotic attempts to put down APers, just like your
idiotic
> > addiction claims where I proved you have no knowledge

whatsoever.

>
> You need a session at one of those luncheons for a slap of

reality.

> Take a look at all your fellow "AP's"! Not a pretty site.

I play next to other APers on a regular basis. Except for being
extremely intelligent they are not unlike any other cross-section

of

people.

(snicker snicker). Most of your 'APs' are fat, ugly, and stupid--and
hardly intelligent. If they were they wouldn't be so gullible as you
are about expert play and long-term strategy. And they are almost
exclusively introverts--afraid to communicate with the real world
except from behind the safety of their computers.

> > > > Trudeau is a con man just like you and try to stay up with
the
> > > > conversation. I was referring to the mythical "switch",
moron.
> > >
> > > The original question was does he take money from people like
> > Dancer
> > > and Scott and Hughes, or does he help people perform whatever
he
> > does
> > > better for free. If he does the former, then he's a con man,
yes.
> >
> > What part of "medical-scam" didn't you understand? That alcohol
has
> > really messed with your cat-liter. If you want to know more try
> > google.
>
> "Medical scam" implies nothing about taking money from

unsuspecting

> people like your heroes do every day. You call me a scammer all

the

> time, yet I don't take anyone's money for assistance. HELLO!!
Anyone
> home in there, McFLY??

For starters you wrote a book that contains lies and misleading
information. That is a scam. It takes money from unsuspecting folks
(albeit only a few since it has gotten such bad reviews).

My 1st book simply tells of the fallacies of playing long-term
strategy, and of the bilking 'gurus' out there who need everyone's
money to feed their own habits. None of it is a lie. If it were I'd
have been in court long ago. I was careful to tell only truths so
your hero friends wouldn't find a way into my pockets, and they know
it. Time for you to go figure it out if you ever plan on replacing
one of them in the future--which is your goal and you dream it. My
book remains the single most telling, truthful and popular book ever
on video poker. That's why people continue to read it--not because
I'm selling strategies. Just like Dancer & Paymar & Scott & Hughes
are your heroes, I am to many. That's why you can't stand me, and why
I love it.

> > > > Keep it up. I love it when you make a complete fool of
yourself
> > and
> > > > have no clue while you're doing it.
> > >
> > > I think you lost track here.
> >
> > You wish.
>
> ??

Right on cue.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > On the other hand, it is completely obvious that you
> want
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > known as a VP guru. One of your many failures.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's what bugs you. I AM a guru and even with your
> > > > nonsensical
> > > > > > > self-developed useless program on OEJ's, you can't

even

> get
> > a
> > > > > write-
> > > > > > > in vote!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A self-proclaimed guru who doesn't have any idea that a
> large
> > > > > number
> > > > > > of the VP gambling poplution thinks the machines are
> > controlled
> > > > > > externally. To state you're a guru while showing your
> > complete
> > > > > > ignorance of VP is one BIG laugh. You sure do know how

to

> > look
> > > > > > foolish.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's one grand qualification! I can't imagine what my
> > students
> > > > > would say if I told them I was that astute. Then just
maybe,
> > > those
> > > > > whom i train never heard of it either, and it's just
another
> > one
> > > of
> > > > > those make believe 'AP' stories that float around the

local

> > > casinos
> > > > > making stops at each and every addict's machine daily.

You

> must
> > > see
> > > > > a lot of it.
> > > >
> > > > ROTFLMAO. This is toooooooo good to be true. You keep

digging

> > > > yourself in deeper.
> > >
> > > ???
> >
> > I know.
>
> ???

I know.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > You stated you had a picture. Now, you're stating

you

> > > > > > > are "guess"ing. Even you can't maintain one of your
lies
> > for
> > > > two
> > > > > > > days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're not even a 10% challenge today. I said I saw a
> > > picture.
> > > > > Who
> > > > > > > would keep such a horrid thing??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, tell us where you got said picture. This ought to

be

> fun
> > > > > seeing
> > > > > > Robbie scamble for an answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > I actually saw 2--one older one from IBM in Rochester,

the

> > other
> > > a
> > > > > more recent gem from a security shot at the Edgewater.
> > > >
> > > > Sure you did. Please give the dates of the photos ... just

in

> > case
> > > > you're making this up.
> > > >
> > > Again, I said I saw the photos. You care about dates--for

what.

> You
> > > worried your 'hair' wasn't in place on that particular day?
> >
> > Caught in another lie? Of course, this is way tooooooooo easy.

I

> told
> > you I worked at IBM and I told you I went to Edgewater. You
decided
> > to use that knowledge to manufacture another lie. Only, you got
> > caught with your pants down ... again.
>
> Yup, you told me where you spent your geek career and I know

people

> at the place today. You told me you 'gambled' at Edgewater so I
asked
> a close friend there--for a small fee--to research something and
I'd
> come in for a look. You're right--it was tooooooo easy. Now what
> about the dates--worried that your 'hair' was out of place??

Sure, monkey boy. Let's see the proof. LMAO. Keep up the babbling,

it

makes you look soooooooooooooooooo foolish.

What about "I saw and don't have" don't you get yet. You seem to have
fixated on a fear that I do have pictures and haven't shaken the webs
surrounding that terror just yet.

> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > you've been struggling with weight all your life,
> which
> > > > only
> > > > > > > > > goes to support your introvert label. Too late on
> > trying
> > > to
> > > > > > save
> > > > > > > > face
> > > > > > > > > on the bowling/tennis/RADIO issues, along with

the

> many
> > > > > times
> > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > tried to get you to face me. The truth's all in
> public
> > > > print
> > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I doubt it. Maybe I should find a copy and read it.
> Then
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > > add
> > > > > > > > several items to the Lie list above.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BIG lie. Mission accomplished. (Stop changing it).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, I suspect your article contains several small lies.
In
> > > fact,
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > bet on it and I'd bet I could prove it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Name the bet!
> > > >
> > > > I haven't read the article yet. Send it to me and I'll list
all
> > the
> > > > lies for you to think about. At that time we can bet $1000

on

> > each
> > > > lie I list. If I prove it's a lie you pay, if I don't I pay.
> > >
> > > You know where it is. And you'll lose. List them. I know I'm
> gonna
> > > get you to spend hours chasing nebulous thoughts on how to
weasel-
> > > word your input on them, but go ahead. $1000 a pop. In fact,
make
> > it
> > > fair and I'll make my own list of items vice-versa. See if

you

> can
> > > handle that.
> >
> > Send me a copy and we can proceed. That's all it takes on your
part.
>
> It's 3 clicks away on my site. You've already found it, and I
> wouldn't be surprised if you brought the paper home 2 weeks ago.

Of

> course, that would require you go into a decent property to get
one,
> and we all know that's not your style. Take the wife to the dumps
and
> get away as cheaply as possible.

I'm beginning to think there is no article.

I guess you missed the '3 clicks away' part. I'd be kind of
embarrassed too if I had to read it here.

So far, Absolutely no one

has mentioned any article to me. I guess that pretty much defines

Rob

Singers' influence in the VP community whether the article exists

or

not.

You know the routine: Fat, ugly, and dumb vp players who like to
say "I play with an edge" are totally introverted. There's lots of
laughter about you in the homes and hotels around your slum town, and
i get lots of messages from the people who read here and have read it
in the paper. They all know who 'dicky the denyer' is. And now you're
famous--just what you've wanted all along so you can keep up with the
gurus!!

> > I suppose you've heard this one either. You know, it's grey and
if
> > you dig in just a little bit your find plenty of sh*t.
> >
> You seem rattled--and over this? Re-read your attempt at saying
> something and then try again.

If your going to get hung up on spelling errors then I guess you've
now reached the bottem of the barrel. So far I've ignored the
hundreds of these errors in your posts. I have more than enough to
deal with the content of your posts.

Huh? The only spelling error I belittle you on is the cat 'liter'
thing. You're seemingly rattled because your last post got the best
of you and you didn't even see it. Now see why you're your own worst
enemy here?

> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, we all know this is another
> > > > > > lie. Come on, monkey boy. Back up your newest fantasy
claim
> > or
> > > > > admit
> > > > > > you are, once again, lying.
> > > > >
> > > > > Back up what--that I saw a few pics of you (one with the
> > missus)?
> > > > > OK, I swear it.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose you're going to tell us she's fat too. Come on,
let's
> > > hear
> > > > the dates. I'll accept your assertion if you can provide

the

> > dates.
> > > > If I don't see any dates then all anyone can assume is that
you
> > are
> > > > lying.
> > > >
> > > No, but she's ugly. I couldn't see the rest of her because as
> > usual,
> > > you were in the way.
> >
> > The lies just keep coming. I'll add this one to the long list.
>
> Why of COURSE they're lies, little dicky! How could you live with
> this is they weren't???

You couldn't see her because she was blocked off. But, you state
she's ugly. Chuckle, chuckle. Your lies are getting soooooooo
obvious. Give us a better description ... height, hair color, etc.
etc. ... What? ... You can't do it? What a surprise. Your lies are
getting easier and easier to uncover.

I was trying to be as kind as possible--I didn't see her body, but I
can imagine she's no Marilyn Monroe if you know what I mean. But
here's something that'll get your acid churning again: In a B&W, she
looks like a blue-hair!

> > > > > > > The lie list is getting longer by the moment. Really
> > > > > > > > starting to LMAO now. The sides are starting to

hurt

> > again.
> > > > > Come
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > Robbie, tell the truth. You were the victim,

weren't

> you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Silence is golden.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, golden showers are golden. Get with it.
> > > >
> > > > Come clean, Robbie. You were the victim weren't you. That's
why
> > you
> > > > can't forget about it 40+ years later. I word of advice.

Get

> over
> > > it.
> > >
> > > If I were a nerd I'd have outright killed myself years ago--

not

> > > slowly deterioriate as you've chosen to do.
> >
> > Been looking in the mirror again?
>
> And covered myself with 'cat liter'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You opened you mouth? Bad idea.

> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > tennis for real money, or even bowling as
> > > > > > > > > a sideshow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just let me know when you want to play. However,
let's
> > make
> > > > it
> > > > > > 20K
> > > > > > > > each.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll play you right now even before my foot

operation.

> $20k
> > > > each-
> > > > > -
> > > > > > > bowling, tennis, and don't forget ythe radio meet

where

> if
> > I
> > > > > > produce
> > > > > > > the docs you say don't exist, that's another $20k.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did I call it? Of course. I made a challenge and Robbie
> > starts
> > > > > > scrambling. Come on chicken boy, accept it or not, I
don't
> > > really
> > > > > > care. Of course, we all know the scrambling will

continue.

> > > > >
> > > > > Did you read above yet?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you did exactly what you always do. You came back with

a

> > > > different bet. You have a 100% track record of either
changing
> > the
> > > > bet as you did above or continuing to raise the amount. You
> have
> > > > NEVER once accepted a bet or stayed with a bet. Those two
> actions
> > > are
> > > > what I call "scrambling". You do it every time and it's
> > completely
> > > > predictable.
> > >
> > > The bet is the bet as it always has been.
> >
> > There was NEVER an agreed to bet. You kept changing it all the
> time,
> > just as I described above.
> >
> > > Now
> > > keep your facts straight and see if you can do things in this
> > order:
> > > 1,2,3. I agree with the $20k. The reason I didn't accept $5k
bets
> > is
> > > because it's a waste of my time.
> >
> > Typical excuse.
> >
> > > I think you got that point
> > > eventually. So here it is: Tennis & Bowling--ACCEPTED AS YOU
> STATE.
> > > One week after we appear on the radio together to fulfill or
> rebuke
> > > your clear claims which came before your 2 propositions.
> >
> > Please provide what claims you are referring to. Give the post
> where
> > you think I made these claims. If you can do this I MIGHT
> reconsider
> > the whole radio show thingy.
>
> I'll give you the 2 claims: #1: That I can't produce both my
> undergrad EE degree & MBA--to which you stated I could easily
produce
> them on a $100 printer,

So, what's point of having a bet? They can be easily forged. It
doesn't prove a thing. I would never bet on anything that could be
forged by an amateur.

That's the point--you look for escape clauses and loopholes even when
they don't exist. That's the reason I said we'd call together, go on-
line together, and in my post I even said I'd pay for both of us to
go to Boston and verify together. But what do you choose to do?
Right, focus on the documents as forgeries from the '$100 printer'.
BTW--that was the #1 laugh my readers e-mailed me on about you. The
comment "no balls" was most prevalent.

> and in return I said I would verify all of it
> with you on-line or on the phone...or even in writing from the 2
> Universities. #2: That I cannot prove that my career has been

spent

> travelling/living around the world, and I'd present my past and
> current Passports, to which you somehow were able to squeeze out
that
> your famous $100 printer could duplicate all that documentation
too.
> Jog your memory any??

Once again, everything is forgeable. I can tell you right now I

will

never bet on on something like this. I should have known you'd come
up with something like this. Nobody with any sense would accept

this

kind of bet. As I said before, you have a 100% record of scrambling.

Hmmm.... Please explain how I could 'forge' several large passports
with country stamps from all over the world, multiple official fold-
out Visa's, and my verifiable passport number that a simple call can
verify. As I said before, you've bitten off quite a bit more than you
can chew and you know it. You simply don't want to bet, and you
definitely don't have the cash. The deeper you get into this the
better I like it.

In fact, let me make it easy for you to look really foolish. I
believe you have both an EE and a MBA and that you've travelled
around the world. Do you really think I believed all the "Who's

Fred

Flintstone" BS? I knew all along this was just another one of your
lies. Of course, I played along because it made you look foolish.
However, it didn't fool me for a second. I also know you understand
perfectly well that a progression can't change a negative

expectation

into a positive one. I've dealt with other trolls before and have
seen these stupid tricks time and again.

You are one smart dude!

Now, can we get on with the tennis/bowling bet?

Let me REALLY scare you....YES. But, since you've chosen to wiggle
out of the proof gig, we'll play tennis for $40k AFTER my foot heals.
Bowling for $20k. Truth is I rarely bowl because the alleys around
here are almost as bad as the ones in LV--nothing but power-drinking
big mouths that I'm not interested in being around any more. The
teams are just as bad, only they're comprised mainly of loser blue-
collar workers looking for companionship because they don't know how
to treat their spouses. And you bowl?

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > > were in my column. Your address shows up more than a dozen
> times
> > in
> > > > the past 8 weeks. Liar.
> > >
> > > Sorry, but it wasn't me. The only time I was there was back

in

> > > January. Maybe your webmaster is playing with your mind ...
> >
> > More than likely, you're playing with your own. It's your only
way
> > out of this....in your mind.
>
> Then again, this is probably just another lie. You know, just

like

> the one where you claimed to have seen a picture of me but can't
back
> up the claim.

That's your story--the only one that can let you sleep at night.

Liar.

If this were the truth you would have the webmaster post the dates
and my email address. The lack of this easily obtainable evidence is
absolute proof you are lying once again.

> > The mere fact that you've already read it--probably several

times-

-
>
> Sorry to disappoint you ... again. I STILL have never read GT.

But,

I
> now suspect there never was an article. Otherwise you would have
> posted it here like you've done many times.

Re-read it on my site. anytime. I won't block your access.

I have no desire to read your lies. I can tell by the fact that you
failed to copy it here (like you have several others), that there is
really nothing of merit to read. I think everyone can tell by the way
you're almost begging me to go to your website that you are
downtrodden by the lack of response to your lies.

> > > > You know wrong. I don't listen to babble when I'm playing,
and
> > when
> > > > I'm done I don't hang around for chit-chat.
> > >
> > > On one hand you tell us about all your buddies at the casinos
> where
> > > you can get information.
> >
> > That's EMPLOYEES, Mr. Wizard. And they don't hang around the
> > degenerate machines like self-proclaimed "AP's" do.
>
> If you don't "hang around", then you don't talk with employees
> either.

You're thinking of the low-lifes who work the floors and chit-chat
with the degenerates who gamble day in and day out. I'm talking
employees who who don't stick around and guzzle beer with all the
hard-working boys that trample to the bars in the joints you
frequent.

Sure you are.

Next time you DO "hang around" ASK them about the people that
> think the payoffs are controlled externally. I'm sure they hear

it

> all the time.

I will. But why it's important I'll never know.

To keep educating you.

>
> > > > > "When are they going to loosen 'em up?"
> > > > > "Boy are these machines tight"
> > > > > "You think they could let us win once in while"
> > > > >
> > > > > The fact that you express doubt about this shows you lack
any
> > > > > understanding of a typical casino environment. No wonder
> > everyone
> > > > > laughs when you state you are some kind of guru.
> > > >
> > > > Not doubt. I don't care about it.
> > >
> > > That's fine, but I don't think your fantasy of becoming a

guru

> will
> > > ever come true with this approach.
> >
> > I am, and have been for 7 years now, the guru that you detest.
Why?
>
> Because you are a liar and a fraud.

That's not in the dreams you have though, is it.

No, you've never appeared in any of my dreams. Just the fact you
fantasize about someone thinking or dreaming about you is extrememly
telling. People with self confidence don't care what other people
think.

>
> >
> > Maybe you should ask your GT buddy
> > > Elliot to help you understand what REALLY goes on inside a
> casino.
> > > He's much more knowledgeable than you are.
> >
> > You mean the mercy-hire?? HAHAHA! He's the only 'writer' alive
that
> > still scratches his old man's butt and comes up with math BS
> instead
> > of the true fact that Lenny never won and believed no one could
win.
>
> But he's sooooo much more knowledgeable than you are. He makes

you

> look like the scum at the bottem of the sewer. He comes across as
> extremely intelligent while you appear to have cat litter for
brains.

Now I see you have yet another geek-hero....

Yes, he is a hero. He educates and truthfully provides usable
information to those who read his column. Sooooooo much better than
any of your columns you've posted here.

BTW--we're still waiting for you to admit
you're an addict without all the sugar-coated nonsense that you
caveat it with. That's one of the reasons you evacuated from the
other thread.

I am about as far away from an addict as you can get. Too bad you
picked me to try and presuade others that all APers are addicts. By
the way, if you go back and read the website I pointed out, you will
see that most addicts have multiple addictions. They have what is
called addictive traits which may very well be genetic in origin. Do
I need to keep educating you all the time and making you look
extremely foolish.

PS. I don't smoke, do drugs and I have a beer about once every couple
of months. I'm not an exercise junkie, I'm not a workaholic, I hate
shopping, etc. etc. I gambled once a year for 25 years and walked
away each time without feeling any desire to return until the next
year. In fact, I was usually bored with it before I left Las Vegas.
You picked the wrong person, moron.

>
> > This is just another
> > > of your idiotic attempts to put down APers, just like your
> idiotic
> > > addiction claims where I proved you have no knowledge
whatsoever.
> >
> > You need a session at one of those luncheons for a slap of
reality.
> > Take a look at all your fellow "AP's"! Not a pretty site.
>
> I play next to other APers on a regular basis. Except for being
> extremely intelligent they are not unlike any other cross-section
of
> people.

(snicker snicker). Most of your 'APs' are fat, ugly, and stupid--

and

hardly intelligent.

Please provide evidence that supports this assertion. Do you have all
their IQs?

If they were they wouldn't be so gullible as you
are about expert play and long-term strategy. And they are almost
exclusively introverts--afraid to communicate with the real world
except from behind the safety of their computers.

Hmmmm. You've gone on and on about being an introvert like it's some
kind of disease. Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Do
I need to educate you some more? Do you really want to appear foolish
once again? By the way, from what I hear your hero GWB is an
introvert while your hated Clinton is an extrovert.

> > "Medical scam" implies nothing about taking money from
unsuspecting
> > people like your heroes do every day. You call me a scammer all
the
> > time, yet I don't take anyone's money for assistance. HELLO!!
> Anyone
> > home in there, McFLY??
>
> For starters you wrote a book that contains lies and misleading
> information. That is a scam. It takes money from unsuspecting

folks

> (albeit only a few since it has gotten such bad reviews).

My 1st book simply tells of the fallacies of playing long-term
strategy, and of the bilking 'gurus' out there who need everyone's
money to feed their own habits.

Like I said. Lies.

None of it is a lie. If it were I'd
have been in court long ago. I was careful to tell only truths so
your hero friends wouldn't find a way into my pockets, and they

know

it. Time for you to go figure it out if you ever plan on replacing
one of them in the future--which is your goal and you dream it. My
book remains the single most telling, truthful and popular book

ever

on video poker.

HAHAHAHA. Nice try, monkey boy. I think the review I read pretty much
summed it by saying it was a waste of time.

> > > > > > I actually saw 2--one older one from IBM in Rochester,
the
> > > other
> > > > a
> > > > > > more recent gem from a security shot at the Edgewater.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure you did. Please give the dates of the photos ...

just

in
> > > case
> > > > > you're making this up.
> > > > >
> > > > Again, I said I saw the photos. You care about dates--for
what.
> > You
> > > > worried your 'hair' wasn't in place on that particular day?
> > >
> > > Caught in another lie? Of course, this is way tooooooooo

easy.

I
> > told
> > > you I worked at IBM and I told you I went to Edgewater. You
> decided
> > > to use that knowledge to manufacture another lie. Only, you

got

> > > caught with your pants down ... again.
> >
> > Yup, you told me where you spent your geek career and I know
people
> > at the place today. You told me you 'gambled' at Edgewater so I
> asked
> > a close friend there--for a small fee--to research something

and

> I'd
> > come in for a look. You're right--it was tooooooo easy. Now

what

> > about the dates--worried that your 'hair' was out of place??
>
> Sure, monkey boy. Let's see the proof. LMAO. Keep up the

babbling,

it
> makes you look soooooooooooooooooo foolish.

What about "I saw and don't have" don't you get yet. You seem to

have

fixated on a fear that I do have pictures and haven't shaken the

webs

surrounding that terror just yet.

Without dates you have NOTHING but lies. Boy this is easy.

I told you last summer I was 6' tall and 210 lbs (remember, average
for an NFL running back.). I told you in January I had a BMI between
25-30 and how it has been shown that people in this range live longer
than those below 25. You stated that I was lying. What do you say now?

> > > Send me a copy and we can proceed. That's all it takes on

your

> part.
> >
> > It's 3 clicks away on my site. You've already found it, and I
> > wouldn't be surprised if you brought the paper home 2 weeks

ago.

Of
> > course, that would require you go into a decent property to get
> one,
> > and we all know that's not your style. Take the wife to the

dumps

> and
> > get away as cheaply as possible.
>
> I'm beginning to think there is no article.

I guess you missed the '3 clicks away' part. I'd be kind of
embarrassed too if I had to read it here.

Like I said above, if you had anything you would have posted it here.
You are such a loser.

So far, Absolutely no one
> has mentioned any article to me. I guess that pretty much defines
Rob
> Singers' influence in the VP community whether the article exists
or
> not.

You know the routine: Fat, ugly, and dumb vp players who like to
say "I play with an edge" are totally introverted. There's lots of
laughter about you in the homes and hotels around your slum town,

and

i get lots of messages from the people who read here and have read

it

in the paper. They all know who 'dicky the denyer' is. And now

you're

famous--just what you've wanted all along so you can keep up with

the

gurus!!

Of course, little man. That's why you haven't copied it here. Your
babbling is even more evidence that you came up with zilch. You knew
that if you printed the truth you would look foolish. Is this great
or what!

>
> > > I suppose you've heard this one either. You know, it's grey

and

> if
> > > you dig in just a little bit your find plenty of sh*t.
> > >
> > You seem rattled--and over this? Re-read your attempt at saying
> > something and then try again.
>
> If your going to get hung up on spelling errors then I guess

you've

> now reached the bottem of the barrel. So far I've ignored the
> hundreds of these errors in your posts. I have more than enough

to

> deal with the content of your posts.

Huh? The only spelling error I belittle you on is the cat 'liter'
thing. You're seemingly rattled because your last post got the best
of you and you didn't even see it. Now see why you're your own

worst

enemy here?

Rattled by a spelling error? Is that the best you've got? If I got
rattled for making spelling errors I'd be rattled all the time. I'm a
terrible typist and the keyboard on my notebook doesn't help a bit.
You really are digging deep, little man.

> > > > > I suppose you're going to tell us she's fat too. Come on,
> let's
> > > > hear
> > > > > the dates. I'll accept your assertion if you can provide
the
> > > dates.
> > > > > If I don't see any dates then all anyone can assume is

that

> you
> > > are
> > > > > lying.
> > > > >
> > > > No, but she's ugly. I couldn't see the rest of her because

as

> > > usual,
> > > > you were in the way.
> > >
> > > The lies just keep coming. I'll add this one to the long list.
> >
> > Why of COURSE they're lies, little dicky! How could you live

with

> > this is they weren't???
>
> You couldn't see her because she was blocked off. But, you state
> she's ugly. Chuckle, chuckle. Your lies are getting soooooooo
> obvious. Give us a better description ... height, hair color,

etc.

> etc. ... What? ... You can't do it? What a surprise. Your lies

are

> getting easier and easier to uncover.

I was trying to be as kind as possible

Of course you were. wink, wink.

--I didn't see her body, but I
can imagine she's no Marilyn Monroe if you know what I mean. But
here's something that'll get your acid churning again: In a B&W,

she

looks like a blue-hair!

ROTFLMAO. You are such an idiot. Any dates yet? Didn't think so.
Anything at all to support this lie? Didn't think so. Give it up,
moron, you can't slip stupid assertions like this by me. Every time I
challenge you to provide JUST ONE fact to back up these obvious lies,
you FAIL miserably. That should tell you something.

> Once again, everything is forgeable. I can tell you right now I
will
> never bet on on something like this. I should have known you'd

come

> up with something like this. Nobody with any sense would accept
this
> kind of bet. As I said before, you have a 100% record of

scrambling.

Hmmm.... Please explain how I could 'forge' several large passports
with country stamps from all over the world, multiple official fold-
out Visa's, and my verifiable passport number that a simple call

can

verify.

If you don't think these can be forged you really are naive. I will
admit it would take much more than a $100 printer to perfectly forge
a passport. However, it would take educated eyes to detect even a
poor forgery. Do you believe a radio host has this ability?

>
> In fact, let me make it easy for you to look really foolish. I
> believe you have both an EE and a MBA and that you've travelled
> around the world. Do you really think I believed all the "Who's
Fred
> Flintstone" BS? I knew all along this was just another one of

your

> lies. Of course, I played along because it made you look foolish.
> However, it didn't fool me for a second. I also know you

understand

> perfectly well that a progression can't change a negative
expectation
> into a positive one. I've dealt with other trolls before and have
> seen these stupid tricks time and again.

You are one smart dude!

Thank you.

>
> Now, can we get on with the tennis/bowling bet?

Let me REALLY scare you....YES. But, since you've chosen to wiggle
out of the proof gig, we'll play tennis for $40k AFTER my foot

heals.

Bowling for $20k.

What did I say before? Robbie ALWAYS changes the bet. The master
scrambler is at it again. You are starting to make the term "fool" a
compliment to your intelligence. You would have looked smarter by
simply backing out of the bet, rather than PROVING to everyone you
would do EXACTLY what I said you'd do.

Truth is I rarely bowl because the alleys around
here are almost as bad as the ones in LV--nothing but power-

drinking

big mouths that I'm not interested in being around any more. The
teams are just as bad, only they're comprised mainly of loser blue-
collar workers looking for companionship because they don't know

how

to treat their spouses. And you bowl?

ROTFLMAO again. I'll give you two months to get your act together.
You can practice all you want. Both tennis and bowling. Then we can
get together in May (or whenever your foot heals if you think that's
worse then having a ruptured ACL like I have) and we'll go at it for
$20K each (as I challenged) or not at all.

[Earl]

I wish you two would start a new thread subject line. It seems the two
original posters have abandoned this thread long ago. Also a little
anecdote to give Rob Singer a boost. On my last trip to Vegas in
december I stopped in at the gamblers book store, the best book store
of its kind in the world, to brouse and buy a couple of books while my
wife shopped at the outlet mall down Charlston. While checking out I
noticed both Singer and Dancers books on display. I asked the clerk
about the books and was told that Singer and Dancer were the two
leading experts on video poker.