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Daily Play vs. 6-month Play

I wondered whose picture that was replacing the Wolf. It looked like some sort of Greek god to me.

One of the benefits listed is access to the 33rd fl lounge. The prior mailers did not state that. (or i just didn't see it) As others have mentioned, there is no mention of point requirements.

Anyone have any idea what VIP valet perking or Preferred restaurant reservation or call ahead seating refer to?

Joel

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----- Original Message ----
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:07:43 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Daily Play vs. 6-month Play

---There are still 2 sachem levels. The chief know replaces the wolf.
Card is known as Club Sachem as opposed to plain Sachem. I was told
this by my host
Mel

In vpFREE_NewEngland@ yahoogroups. com, vp1040@... wrote:

In a message dated 3/31/2008 6:13:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mel3dmd@... writes:

Just got my new card with the chiefs picture on it.

I am wondering if they did away with the 2 Sachem levels. Can't

use Sachem

"wolf" anymore. Anyone get a Sachem card that doesn't have the

Sachem's

picture in the circle in the upper middle of the card?

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I got my sacham card recently also, 6 month expiry.
Last go around (last 4 months or so), I got 3 sachems and I sagamore in the mail.
Sagamore came first and last sachem had a wolf on it -- even though play has dropped.
This new one doesn't have the chief on it. I do expect to get more cards in the mail...
parking passes, and a sagamore card for good luck. LOL
I had asked MANY people (hosts, booth folks, aquai, back-office people) and no one
would actually confirm that the "wolf" meant anything-- instead it was all about they saw
when they looked at my account--- YMMV.

1) my info did not list access to 33rd floor lounge. My last cards were coded for it,
however. I guess I have been downgraded...

2) rest reservations: for the restaurants that MS owns, you can throw your sachem weight
around. Call your host or have someone at the rest. call them

3) parking: tell them you want VIP parking at the valet. They write "VIP" on the ticket.
After that I don't know what happens...

4) I noticed a 20% discount for certain MS stores & gas station. Nice, but doesn't cover gas
or much else

5) It used to be that sachems could call up and reserve a machine or table. I tried that a
few times and it did not work. No one (on the phone) new what I was talking about. I
even brought the literature in once with a description of this perk and showed some
hosts-- and, well, no one had heard of the program...

Aside: Theo... the only thing that really matters is the theo the casino has for you-- not
the theo you think you should have. This is not a subtle difference. I've played all day on
machines to find out they were coded in correctly-- and that I got nearly a 0 theo %-- and
I've played FP machines with >>5%+ theo. As earlier post suggested-- play one machine
for a while-- but then ask your host-- and share what you learn. At some casinos (most?
all ?) there can be only 1 theo value per machine. That means machines with 1 good VP
and lots of bad video slots games tend to have higher theo. Similar thing goes for
machines with a mixture of denoms [ low denoms -> high theo and high denoms -> low
theo]

I wondered whose picture that was replacing the Wolf. It looked like some sort of Greek

god to me.

One of the benefits listed is access to the 33rd fl lounge. The prior mailers did not state

that. (or i just didn't see it) As others have mentioned, there is no mention of point
requirements.

Anyone have any idea what VIP valet perking or Preferred restaurant reservation or call

ahead seating refer to?

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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...> wrote:

Joel

Spoke to my host...here is what I got back...

there is one level of Sagamore, the difference is in room rates, based on theo NOT points. (these are the x,y,z)

Points get you the card, but theo is in fact king.

To qualify for sachem you need average theo $1500 per trip.

It is a complicated formula which takes into account, theo + trips + Time played.

I average 5.3 hrs $783 theo and $18K in coin in per trip with 48 trips in 6 months. (again this is average, i have had trips with 20 mins of play that totally killed me)

To be sachem, i should have gone 24 trips, spent 5hrs per trip and had $40k coin in averages. would have still spent as much $$. but theo would have doubled to over 1500.

So i guess I will go less but bring more money ??

cdfsrule <vpfree_digests@vpfree2.com> wrote: I got my sacham card recently also, 6 month expiry.
Last go around (last 4 months or so), I got 3 sachems and I sagamore in the mail.
Sagamore came first and last sachem had a wolf on it -- even though play has dropped.
This new one doesn't have the chief on it. I do expect to get more cards in the mail...
parking passes, and a sagamore card for good luck. LOL
I had asked MANY people (hosts, booth folks, aquai, back-office people) and no one
would actually confirm that the "wolf" meant anything-- instead it was all about they saw
when they looked at my account--- YMMV.

1) my info did not list access to 33rd floor lounge. My last cards were coded for it,
however. I guess I have been downgraded...

2) rest reservations: for the restaurants that MS owns, you can throw your sachem weight
around. Call your host or have someone at the rest. call them

3) parking: tell them you want VIP parking at the valet. They write "VIP" on the ticket.
After that I don't know what happens...

4) I noticed a 20% discount for certain MS stores & gas station. Nice, but doesn't cover gas
or much else

5) It used to be that sachems could call up and reserve a machine or table. I tried that a
few times and it did not work. No one (on the phone) new what I was talking about. I
even brought the literature in once with a description of this perk and showed some
hosts-- and, well, no one had heard of the program...

Aside: Theo... the only thing that really matters is the theo the casino has for you-- not
the theo you think you should have. This is not a subtle difference. I've played all day on
machines to find out they were coded in correctly-- and that I got nearly a 0 theo %-- and
I've played FP machines with >>5%+ theo. As earlier post suggested-- play one machine
for a while-- but then ask your host-- and share what you learn. At some casinos (most?
all ?) there can be only 1 theo value per machine. That means machines with 1 good VP
and lots of bad video slots games tend to have higher theo. Similar thing goes for
machines with a mixture of denoms [ low denoms -> high theo and high denoms -> low
theo]
  
>
> I wondered whose picture that was replacing the Wolf. It looked like some sort of Greek
god to me.
>
> One of the benefits listed is access to the 33rd fl lounge. The prior mailers did not state
that. (or i just didn't see it) As others have mentioned, there is no mention of point
requirements.
>
> Anyone have any idea what VIP valet perking or Preferred restaurant reservation or call
ahead seating refer to?

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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...> wrote:
>
> Joel
>

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Jack, Thanks for sharing. Your conclusion is already done by locals
in Nevada. The Motherboard has a "Vegas Locals" yahoogroups with
limited access. As Dan Brown quotes in "Angels and Demons" --- "Dawn
Breaks" ("knowledge is power"):slight_smile:
David in Boston

--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Jack Gaffney
<jakgaph2005@...> wrote:

Spoke to my host...here is what I got back...

there is one level of Sagamore, the difference is in room rates,

based on theo NOT points. (these are the x,y,z)

Points get you the card, but theo is in fact king.

To qualify for sachem you need average theo $1500 per trip.

It is a complicated formula which takes into account, theo + trips

+ Time played.

I average 5.3 hrs $783 theo and $18K in coin in per trip with 48

trips in 6 months. (again this is average, i have had trips with 20
mins of play that totally killed me)

To be sachem, i should have gone 24 trips, spent 5hrs per trip and

had $40k coin in averages. would have still spent as much $$. but
theo would have doubled to over 1500.

So i guess I will go less but bring more money ??

cdfsrule <vpfree_digests@...> wrote: I

got my sacham card recently also, 6 month expiry.

Last go around (last 4 months or so), I got 3 sachems and I

sagamore in the mail.

Sagamore came first and last sachem had a wolf on it -- even

though play has dropped.

This new one doesn't have the chief on it. I do expect to get

more cards in the mail...

parking passes, and a sagamore card for good luck. LOL
I had asked MANY people (hosts, booth folks, aquai, back-office

people) and no one

would actually confirm that the "wolf" meant anything-- instead it

was all about they saw

when they looked at my account--- YMMV.

1) my info did not list access to 33rd floor lounge. My last

cards were coded for it,

however. I guess I have been downgraded...

2) rest reservations: for the restaurants that MS owns, you can

throw your sachem weight

around. Call your host or have someone at the rest. call them

3) parking: tell them you want VIP parking at the valet. They

write "VIP" on the ticket.

After that I don't know what happens...

4) I noticed a 20% discount for certain MS stores & gas station.

Nice, but doesn't cover gas

or much else

5) It used to be that sachems could call up and reserve a machine

or table. I tried that a

few times and it did not work. No one (on the phone) new what I

was talking about. I

even brought the literature in once with a description of this

perk and showed some

hosts-- and, well, no one had heard of the program...

Aside: Theo... the only thing that really matters is the theo

the casino has for you-- not

the theo you think you should have. This is not a subtle

difference. I've played all day on

machines to find out they were coded in correctly-- and that I got

nearly a 0 theo %-- and

I've played FP machines with >>5%+ theo. As earlier post

suggested-- play one machine

for a while-- but then ask your host-- and share what you learn.

At some casinos (most?

all ?) there can be only 1 theo value per machine. That means

machines with 1 good VP

and lots of bad video slots games tend to have higher theo.

Similar thing goes for

machines with a mixture of denoms [ low denoms -> high theo and

high denoms -> low

theo]
  
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@>

wrote:

>
> I wondered whose picture that was replacing the Wolf. It looked

like some sort of Greek

god to me.
>
> One of the benefits listed is access to the 33rd fl lounge. The

prior mailers did not state

that. (or i just didn't see it) As others have mentioned, there is

no mention of point

requirements.
>
> Anyone have any idea what VIP valet perking or Preferred

restaurant reservation or call

ahead seating refer to?
>
> Joel
>

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