As of Monday evening, I saw no sign of 9/6 JoB in any denomination.
The $100 machines at both properties have been downsized to $25. The
ONLY 99%ish games I noted at either property were $25 single line and
included 8/5 Bonus, 9/6 DDB, and 9/7 DB.
Current Venetian/Palazzo Inventory
many many machines got their higher denominations taken away. as an
extreme example, some of the all-star poker machines in high limit at
venetian that used to go up to $25 now max out at $2. it's pretty
pathetic. i've got to think they'll lose a lot of high-roller suckers
this way, far outweighing the damage APs could do on a
high-denomination 100.07% play (8/5 bonus poker, platinum tier, triple
points).
the 3/5 play machines tucked away in venetian high limit used to have
$10 and $25 8/5 bonus poker. a week ago i saw a couple hit three $40k
royals within ten minutes while playing the $10 triple play. i
wondered if that might be the end of those machines. went back this
week, and sure enough, they max out at $5 and 7/5.
it demonstrates a pretty profound lack of understanding that they seem
to be making inventory decisions based on reactions to actual results
rather than looking at the EV. however, a profound lack of
understanding on the part of casino executives is pretty much the only
reason why we can make money playing this game, so i can't complain
too much when it happens to work against us rather than for us.
cheers,
five
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On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:17 PM, vegasvpplayer <vegasvpplayer@juno.com> wrote:
As of Monday evening, I saw no sign of 9/6 JoB in any denomination.
The $100 machines at both properties have been downsized to $25. The
ONLY 99%ish games I noted at either property were $25 single line and
included 8/5 Bonus, 9/6 DDB, and 9/7 DB.
it demonstrates a pretty profound lack of understanding that they seem
to be making inventory decisions based on reactions to actual results
rather than looking at the EV. however, a profound lack of
understanding on the part of casino executives is pretty much the only
reason why we can make money playing this game, so i can't complain
too much when it happens to work against us rather than for us.
Well, I think you have to go back a little further in history to
understand what they are doing.
They used to have $25 10line 9/6 JoB ($1250 per pull/deal). With the
3x promo, players had $5 of EV per pull/deal ($1250*0.4%). At just
400 hands an hour (doable, I think, with 2 machines and a W2G writer
standing by), that's is $2,000 of EV per hour for the player.
I suspect they keep downgrading machines because they took a huge hit
at the begining of the promo and decided to downgrade the machines to
limit their exposure rather than ending the promo. Perhaps this is in
reaction to results (e.g. casino spewing cash in players' direction),
but, in this case, it is right to do so for their bottom line.
I'm eagerly awaiting to see what happens now that the promo is just
about over (today is the last day at 2x , I believe). Are they going
to upgrade the machines right away (indicating the downgrades were a
result of them knowing the promo was crushing them)? Are they going to
wait a while to upgrade the machines (indicating they're reacting to a
drop off in play now that the promo is over and, perhaps, not
understanding the effect of the promo on the volume of play they had
and/or that they just downgraded because they lost money and didn't
know why)? Are they just going to leave the machines with the crappy
paytables on the floor?