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Congratulations Brad and Jean!

Just read tomorrow's Frugal Friday column. WOW! I'm delighted for you
both!!
With just finishing a book and now a huge win, sounds like vacation
time. Treat yourselves to a nice trip.

Ben

...and I was just about to announce that I hit a four-of-a-kind for $62.50!
There goes my big story. :slight_smile: Congrats to Jean and Brad! Is it ironic that
Shirley hit for Bob and Brad hit for Jean???

Regards,

Scot

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com]On Behalf Of
lakeshorebenbev
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:45 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Congratulations Brad and Jean!

Just read tomorrow's Frugal Friday column. WOW! I'm delighted for you
both!!
With just finishing a book and now a huge win, sounds like vacation
time. Treat yourselves to a nice trip.

Ben

<<Congrats to Jean and Brad! Is it ironic that
Shirley hit for Bob and Brad hit for Jean???>>

Thanx! But remember in our case, Brad plays more than I do!

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Jean $¢ott
New book coming this summer
"FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
http://www.FrugalGambler.biz
  
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Jean, I met you at the Venetian during the Tiki tournament and you
advised me on how to get entered. You are one of the most unselfish,
nicest people I've ever met. You proffer helpful info even when it
reduces your chances of winning. I am thrilled for you and Brad!!!

congratullations on your wonderful win...i hope you
and brad enjoy and take a nice long vacation. you both
deserve it...hope when i retire from teaching i can be
as successful as you have been.

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--- Jean Scott <QueenofComps@frugalgambler.biz> wrote:

<<Congrats to Jean and Brad! Is it ironic that
Shirley hit for Bob and Brad hit for Jean???>>

Thanx! But remember in our case, Brad plays more
than I do!

________________________________________
Jean $�ott
New book coming this summer
"FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
http://www.FrugalGambler.biz
  
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WOW...does that put you over the million mark you were referring to a
couple weeks ago...

if my memory is correct many months ago jean posted that brad had no
interest in hitting a big jackpot...at the time i offered my services
to deal with the situation if it ever occurred...well the offer still
stands!!!...

Congratulations!!! Jean and Brad

That's a lot of hot dogs.....you can even buy all of the hot dogs
available in the vegas strip :>

And best of all --- all these winnings did not come from
those "Positive Machines"!!! where the holds the 4 of you used didn't
have to worry about something like "well this hold will give
you .000789 cents advantage, etc, etc.".

irdd: I think the article didn't say that Brad hit a big jackpot.
Instead I think it said that Brad won the Slot Tournament (by
accumulating the most points).

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lv_nv_realtor" <irdd@...> wrote:

WOW...does that put you over the million mark you were referring to a
couple weeks ago...

if my memory is correct many months ago jean posted that brad had no
interest in hitting a big jackpot...at the time i offered my services
to deal with the situation if it ever occurred...well the offer still
stands!!!...

WOW!!!!!! Congrats!
   
Jean H--
   
  You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself any direction you choose.
You're on your own. And you know what you know.
  And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go.... Dr. Suess

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See it didnt take that long to dig yourselves out after all.

heres to another winning year.

cheers

timmer

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lakeshorebenbev" <benfeinberg@...>
wrote:

Just read tomorrow's Frugal Friday column. WOW! I'm delighted

for you

both!!
With just finishing a book and now a huge win, sounds like

vacation

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time. Treat yourselves to a nice trip.

Ben

I am glad you mentioned that. A lot of people forget (maybe because
it keeps getting misquoted) that SHIRLEY hit the big one.

Congrats to Jean and Brad. It could not have happen to 2 nicer
people.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...>
wrote:

...and I was just about to announce that I hit a four-of-a-kind

for $62.50!

There goes my big story. :slight_smile: Congrats to Jean and Brad! Is it

ironic that

Shirley hit for Bob and Brad hit for Jean???

Regards,

Scot

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com]On

Behalf Of

lakeshorebenbev
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:45 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Congratulations Brad and Jean!

Just read tomorrow's Frugal Friday column. WOW! I'm delighted

for you

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-----Original Message-----
both!!
With just finishing a book and now a huge win, sounds like vacation
time. Treat yourselves to a nice trip.

Ben

i'm hoping one of these experts will write a book on how to marry a
person that is very lucky in the casinos...should be a great read...

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "missdeuces" <missdeuces@...> wrote:

I am glad you mentioned that. A lot of people forget (maybe because
it keeps getting misquoted) that SHIRLEY hit the big one.

Congrats to Jean and Brad. It could not have happen to 2 nicer
people.

Lv_nv_realtor wrote: i'm hoping one of these experts will write a book
on how to marry a
person that is very lucky in the casinos...should be a great read...

  Brad did well to win that tournament --- but we've all hit
bigger parlays than a 1-in-75 chance. This one was BIGGER MONEYWISE than
most people will ever see, but it wasn't THAT unusual. Jean and Brad
have tried these big events in the past --- and this time was their
turn.

  Shirley is higher UNDERROYALED. Yes she hit one for $400,000 in
about a quarter of a cycle, but has only hit ONE for $100,000 (after
considerably MORE than two cycles of play), has never hit one for
$40,000 (after more than three cycles of play), and is WAY down on
$20,000 royals (although she's ahead on $25,000 sets of deuces).
Including the big one, she's more or less on-track dollar-wise with
royals, but she's way down in numbers. She's played in hundreds of slot
tournaments and has never won more than $10,000 in any one. Shirley's a
big plus in my life for a lot of reasons, but gamblingwise not so much.

  Thinking of big wins strictly in terms of "luck" doesn't give
you power to understand what really was going on. The skill in this game
we play is taking advantage of the promotions that come along. Jean and
Brad had a pretty big overlay in the Caesars event --- and this time
they cashed. Their skill was to recognize the promotion for what it was
and to be in position to take advantage of it. They also had to be
knowledgeable enough to play 9/6 Jacks essentially perfectly for MANY
hours for considerable stakes. Although a number of players play that
game well, it's not a trivial skill. They also had to be well-financed
enough to play hours of $5 Five Play machines (perhaps --- I don't
actually know what machines either couple played, but those would be the
machines I played during that promotion). For Jean as well as for me,
that bankroll was accumulated over a number of years by making good
gambling decisions, having frugal spending habits, and a having a
reasonably sound investment strategy OUTSIDE of casinos. Calling that
"luck" is missing the point.

  I knew about that Caesars promotion, but that weekend didn't
work out for us. I'll be in a similar, although 50% smaller, Caesars
event in a month. Shirley and I had a pretty big overlay back at the
MGM, and we were able to cash. (The $400,000 win was very nice, but even
without it we would have been ahead more than $600,000 --- a pretty
spectacular result, at least for us.) All players cash sometimes, but
those players who frequently put themselves in great position to get
lucky, sometimes DO get lucky, and they cash more frequently than people
who don't put themselves into such great positions. They have these
tournaments all of the time, and SOMEBODY wins each one. Among players
who regularly play such events, we know each other and know MANY players
who have had big paydays (and dozens of the people who lost $25,000 to
$50,000 or more in these events to "subsidize" the winner. I don't know
Jean's specific results, but I know the game well enough to know that
sometimes she and Brad have participated in these events with AWFUL
results. It happens to all of us.) The unusual thing for most vpFREE
participants is that they don't participate in $10,000-entry fee
tournaments and don't know of many people that do. So when someone they
DO know collects at one of them, provides a very nice vicarious thrill.

  It's not marrying lucky spouses thats the key to success. It's
consistently putting yourself in positions where the odds are in your
favor. And I HAVE written MY version of that book, and Jean HAS written
HER version of that book.

Bob Dancer

For the best in video poker information, visit www.bobdancer.com
or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.

Bob, maybe you're taking these kinds of comments too seriously. I thought they were tongue-in-cheek. However, your points are valid and well stated.

Bob Dancer <bob.dancer@compdance.com> wrote: Lv_nv_realtor wrote: i'm hoping one of these experts will write a book
on how to marry a person that is very lucky in the casinos...should be a great read...

It's not marrying lucky spouses thats the key to success. It's
consistently putting yourself in positions where the odds are in your
favor. And I HAVE written MY version of that book, and Jean HAS written
HER version of that book.

Bob Dancer

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The skill in this game

we play is taking advantage of the promotions that come along. Jean

and

Brad had a pretty big overlay in the Caesars event --- and this time
they cashed.

Very true, and it looks like this one was better than the one coming
up, since 75 x $10K = $750K entry fees and therefore I presume
Caesar's kicked in the other $250K to total $1M, making this a
1.33 "Tournament EV" even without playing to get the $10K back. The
one next month is $500K in fees for the same amount of prize money.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@...> wrote:

<<Jean
and

Brad had a pretty big overlay in the Caesars event --- and this time
they cashed.

<<Very true, and it looks like this one was better than the one coming
up, since 75 x $10K = $750K entry fees and therefore I presume
Caesar's kicked in the other $250K to total $1M, making this a
1.33 "Tournament EV" even without playing to get the $10K back. The
one next month is $500K in fees for the same amount of prize money.>>

The one next month doesn't have the same prize money. It is only half a million total vs. a whole million for the one we won. But you are right in that they are taking in enough entry fees to cover the whole prize package. In the Million Dollar one, they had to add money to the prize fund.

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________________________________________
Jean $¢ott
New book coming this summer
"FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
http://www.FrugalGambler.biz
  
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