Common Sense opinion from someone just exposed to Rob Singer's VP truth method

[optdouble]

I am sure this has been discussed at length before now, but I thought
I would offer an objective opinion to the ideas behind the Rob Singer
method. To those asking, I have never met Rob Singer, and have no
knowledge of him other than reading the VPTRUTH website, and some of
these forums.

Basically, I approach the playing of Video Poker as a hobby, not an
obsession. I live in Texas, only go to Vegas maybe twice a year at
most, sometimes go to Shreveport for some gambling fun, and otherwise
play online poker at micro-limits (0.25/0.50) which is +EV for me.

Up to last year, my usual experience of visiting a casino (Vegas or
wherever) to play video poker was to try and find the positive EV pay
tables at a reasonable denomination (not easy on the Strip, basically
impossible in Lousiana) camp on one denomination of Video Poker and
feed in bills, playing until one of 3 outcomes occurs:

1. 0 credits left = You are broke
2. You hit a Royal Flush ( never happened yet for me ).
3. You have to leave for some kind of time commitment, like dinner
with a friend, a show, meeting the spouse or girlfriend, or whatever.
4. You hit a "Big Enough" jackpot to get ahead of the machine
enough to think about quitting.

While screwing around, I have tried playing Jacks-or-Better, Deuces
Wild, Bonus Poker, and Double-Double Bonus Poker. Although not
perfect in my strategy, I have read enough books and practiced enough
strategy at home (video poker simulator software) to at least be
playing better than the normal idiots in the casino.

The only times I have ever come home a winner, was when I was playing
the Double-Double Bonus Poker machine, hit a big 4 of a kind, or 4
Aces with a 2, and CASHED OUT. On every other machine, even 4 of a
kind was not enough of a jump to even bump me up to even on the
machine. In most cases, the Jacks-or-Better machine provided the
longest playing time, but there was never enough of a bump up from
any big hands to hit a definite decision point to quit the machine
ahead (gee, I wonder if it was designed that way for a reason... lol).

Anyways, after studying my experiences and also thinking about the
components of VP, I realized that Rob Singer was really onto
something - mastering the psychology of QUITTING WHEN AHEAD. His
method also makes it very likely that you will eventually reach a
point where you can CHOOSE TO QUIT WHILE AHEAD. In the meantime,
you never have to hit a Royal, but since you are playing the
machines, you are automatically exposed to the possibility of hitting
a Royal and generating a big win from that anyways. Your
probability in winning will come from what denomination you choose to
START the sequence with ( lower = better since you will survive
longer ), and HOW MUCH BANKROLL you have to play with.

So, basically to me the great thing about the Rob Singer method is
that you are basically waiting for a 4-of-a-kind to quit with a
profit, instead of waiting for a Royal Flush to quit with a profit.
I have never yet seen a Royal Flush, but have seen MANY 4-of-a-kind
hands, in fact, usually AT LEAST ONE or TWO in every session.

The other thing is I find that I enjoy the game more, do not have to
be "frantic" trying to get in 10,000 hands in the least amount of
time so I can get ahead of the "long term mathematics", or any other
such nonsense. One of the books I read was talking about not
wanting to wait to be paid out on big hands, so intentionally
choosing a slightly inferior strategy because it was "+EV in terms of
time". What a load of crap! I want a big jackpot, I enjoy
waiting ( celebrating/relishing the win ), and I am in no hurry.
After all, this is supposed to be FUN, right? Not a grind.

Anyways, I know as others have pointed out that the long term will
catch up with you and you will lose over time. Well, just for
kicks, calculate how many hands that would be, and tell me whether I
will live long enough to reach that level of hands in a lifetime.
Remember, I am playing maybe 3-4 times a year for a couple of days at
a time. I can tell you that playing a non-progressive strategy on
any machine without using some kind of system like Rob's will either
leave you with a Royal win, or zero credits eventually. Which
would you prefer? I would rather win more often than just when I
get a Royal, which hasn't happened to me yet.

Thanks Rob for pointing out the obvious to us,

A Gambler from Texas

[jim_thompson]

Sounds more like a faker from Arizona.

So you never play again, right? After "quitting".

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--- optdouble <mworcester@aol.com> wrote:

I am sure this has been discussed at length before
now, but I thought
I would offer an objective opinion to the ideas
behind the Rob Singer
method. To those asking, I have never met Rob
Singer, and have no
knowledge of him other than reading the VPTRUTH
website, and some of
these forums.

Basically, I approach the playing of Video Poker as
a hobby, not an
obsession. I live in Texas, only go to Vegas maybe
twice a year at
most, sometimes go to Shreveport for some gambling
fun, and otherwise
play online poker at micro-limits (0.25/0.50) which
is +EV for me.

Up to last year, my usual experience of visiting a
casino (Vegas or
wherever) to play video poker was to try and find
the positive EV pay
tables at a reasonable denomination (not easy on the
Strip, basically
impossible in Lousiana) camp on one denomination of
Video Poker and
feed in bills, playing until one of 3 outcomes
occurs:

1. 0 credits left = You are broke
2. You hit a Royal Flush ( never happened yet for
me ).
3. You have to leave for some kind of time
commitment, like dinner
with a friend, a show, meeting the spouse or
girlfriend, or whatever.
4. You hit a "Big Enough" jackpot to get ahead of
the machine
enough to think about quitting.

While screwing around, I have tried playing
Jacks-or-Better, Deuces
Wild, Bonus Poker, and Double-Double Bonus Poker.
Although not
perfect in my strategy, I have read enough books and
practiced enough
strategy at home (video poker simulator software) to
at least be
playing better than the normal idiots in the casino.

The only times I have ever come home a winner, was
when I was playing
the Double-Double Bonus Poker machine, hit a big 4
of a kind, or 4
Aces with a 2, and CASHED OUT. On every other
machine, even 4 of a
kind was not enough of a jump to even bump me up to
even on the
machine. In most cases, the Jacks-or-Better
machine provided the
longest playing time, but there was never enough of
a bump up from
any big hands to hit a definite decision point to
quit the machine
ahead (gee, I wonder if it was designed that way for
a reason... lol).

Anyways, after studying my experiences and also
thinking about the
components of VP, I realized that Rob Singer was
really onto
something - mastering the psychology of QUITTING
WHEN AHEAD. His
method also makes it very likely that you will
eventually reach a
point where you can CHOOSE TO QUIT WHILE AHEAD.
In the meantime,
you never have to hit a Royal, but since you are
playing the
machines, you are automatically exposed to the
possibility of hitting
a Royal and generating a big win from that anyways.
  Your
probability in winning will come from what
denomination you choose to
START the sequence with ( lower = better since you
will survive
longer ), and HOW MUCH BANKROLL you have to play
with.

So, basically to me the great thing about the Rob
Singer method is
that you are basically waiting for a 4-of-a-kind to
quit with a
profit, instead of waiting for a Royal Flush to quit
with a profit.
I have never yet seen a Royal Flush, but have seen
MANY 4-of-a-kind
hands, in fact, usually AT LEAST ONE or TWO in every
session.

The other thing is I find that I enjoy the game
more, do not have to
be "frantic" trying to get in 10,000 hands in the
least amount of
time so I can get ahead of the "long term
mathematics", or any other
such nonsense. One of the books I read was
talking about not
wanting to wait to be paid out on big hands, so
intentionally
choosing a slightly inferior strategy because it was
"+EV in terms of
time". What a load of crap! I want a big
jackpot, I enjoy
waiting ( celebrating/relishing the win ), and I am
in no hurry.
After all, this is supposed to be FUN, right? Not
a grind.

Anyways, I know as others have pointed out that the
long term will
catch up with you and you will lose over time.
Well, just for
kicks, calculate how many hands that would be, and
tell me whether I
will live long enough to reach that level of hands
in a lifetime.
Remember, I am playing maybe 3-4 times a year for a
couple of days at
a time. I can tell you that playing a
non-progressive strategy on
any machine without using some kind of system like
Rob's will either
leave you with a Royal win, or zero credits
eventually. Which
would you prefer? I would rather win more often
than just when I
get a Royal, which hasn't happened to me yet.

Thanks Rob for pointing out the obvious to us,

A Gambler from Texas

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[rgmustain]

I am sure this has been discussed at length before now, but I

thought

I would offer an objective opinion to the ideas behind the Rob

Singer

method. To those asking, I have never met Rob Singer, and have

no

knowledge of him other than reading the VPTRUTH website, and some

of

these forums.

Basically, I approach the playing of Video Poker as a hobby, not an
obsession. I live in Texas, only go to Vegas maybe twice a year

at

most, sometimes go to Shreveport for some gambling fun, and

otherwise

play online poker at micro-limits (0.25/0.50) which is +EV for me.

Up to last year, my usual experience of visiting a casino (Vegas or
wherever) to play video poker was to try and find the positive EV

pay

tables at a reasonable denomination (not easy on the Strip,

basically

impossible in Lousiana) camp on one denomination of Video Poker and
feed in bills, playing until one of 3 outcomes occurs:

1. 0 credits left = You are broke
2. You hit a Royal Flush ( never happened yet for me ).
3. You have to leave for some kind of time commitment, like

dinner

with a friend, a show, meeting the spouse or girlfriend, or

whatever.

4. You hit a "Big Enough" jackpot to get ahead of the machine
enough to think about quitting.

You can also set a time limit and just quit at that time. You may be
ahead or you may be behind. I had a friend who had played a little VP
over the years (many years) and never had a RF. Last year he hit 3 of
them in one trip. Your day will come.

While screwing around, I have tried playing Jacks-or-Better, Deuces
Wild, Bonus Poker, and Double-Double Bonus Poker. Although not
perfect in my strategy, I have read enough books and practiced

enough

strategy at home (video poker simulator software) to at least be
playing better than the normal idiots in the casino.

But, still playing with a negative expectation? Every game you listed
above is negative except possibly deuces. Many of the "idiots" are
playing at a 95% payback or worse. If you're playing at 98% you're
still playing a losing game. What did you expect?

The only times I have ever come home a winner, was when I was

playing

the Double-Double Bonus Poker machine, hit a big 4 of a kind, or 4
Aces with a 2, and CASHED OUT.

The higher the volatility, the more often you will win ... and the
more often you will lose big. That's why this game is so popular. A
progression increases the volatility.

On every other machine, even 4 of a
kind was not enough of a jump to even bump me up to even on the
machine. In most cases, the Jacks-or-Better machine provided the
longest playing time, but there was never enough of a bump up from
any big hands to hit a definite decision point to quit the machine
ahead (gee, I wonder if it was designed that way for a reason...

lol).

That's the way JOB plays. The more volatile games have larger up and
downs. When I play JOB I look for a progressive and slot club points
to make the game at least .5 - 1%. The reason I will play this at
less that +1% is because it does not have big swings.

Anyways, after studying my experiences and also thinking about the
components of VP, I realized that Rob Singer was really onto
something - mastering the psychology of QUITTING WHEN AHEAD.

You have to get ahead first, and this does NOT always happen. Many
times the quads only get back some of what you've lost. While having
a PLAN is important, your personal EV will average out based on the
games you play (and how well you play) over time.

His
method also makes it very likely that you will eventually reach a
point where you can CHOOSE TO QUIT WHILE AHEAD.

No, his method IMPROVEs the chances you will win each session but
will cost you a few big session losses along the way. Your personal
EV will average out based on the games you play over time.

   In the meantime,
you never have to hit a Royal, but since you are playing the
machines, you are automatically exposed to the possibility of

hitting

a Royal and generating a big win from that anyways.

This is why Rob Singer is a dangerous fraud. His method DOES NOT
improve your results over time.

If you really think his method manages to change the laws of the
universe then you will have to learn the hard way that they don't. I
can't force anyone to understand the simple math behind VP, but you
can't escape them anymore then you can overcome gravity by trying to
jump really high.

Your
probability in winning will come from what denomination you choose

to

START the sequence with ( lower = better since you will survive
longer ), and HOW MUCH BANKROLL you have to play with.

NO, NO, NO. This is NOT true. Your probability of winning does not
change over time. You simply trade off more smaller session wins for
a few big losses. Did you read my simulation analysis of Robs' method
a couple of months ago?

So, basically to me the great thing about the Rob Singer method is
that you are basically waiting for a 4-of-a-kind to quit with a
profit, instead of waiting for a Royal Flush to quit with a

profit.

I have never yet seen a Royal Flush, but have seen MANY 4-of-a-kind
hands, in fact, usually AT LEAST ONE or TWO in every session.

Some people have to learn the hard way. A 5 level progression yields
a 75-80% session win rate assuming slightly negative plays and high
volatility games (using Robs' 2500 credit win goal). However, it does
not change your results over time.

The other thing is I find that I enjoy the game more, do not have

to

be "frantic" trying to get in 10,000 hands in the least amount of
time so I can get ahead of the "long term mathematics", or any

other

such nonsense.

What you said is nonsense. You should never play more than you're
comfortable playing. Your results will approach the mean over time no
matter how much you play, when you play or what method you use.

One of the books I read was talking about not
wanting to wait to be paid out on big hands, so intentionally
choosing a slightly inferior strategy because it was "+EV in terms

of

time". What a load of crap!

For you, this may be true, for others it may not. I don't know what
book you were reading but max EV strategy itself may not be for
everybody.

I want a big jackpot, I enjoy
waiting ( celebrating/relishing the win ), and I am in no hurry.
After all, this is supposed to be FUN, right? Not a grind.

That's right. First and foremost is should be FUN.

Anyways, I know as others have pointed out that the long term will
catch up with you and you will lose over time. Well, just for
kicks, calculate how many hands that would be, and tell me whether

I

will live long enough to reach that level of hands in a lifetime.

Yes, you may reach that level the first time you play.
  

Remember, I am playing maybe 3-4 times a year for a couple of days

at

a time.

Yes, 1 out of 4 will lose bigtime the very first time they use Robs'
method. So, if you play 4 times a year you're looking at 3 wins and 1
big loss on average. If this is what you want, then do it. Also, if
you manage to find +EV plays then your odds increase as well. In
fact, if you use ALL +EV plays you should win just as much as you
would have won without using a progression by just betting the
average amount.

I can tell you that playing a non-progressive strategy on
any machine without using some kind of system like Rob's will

either

leave you with a Royal win, or zero credits eventually.

No. I won $3200 last week alone and I only stopped when I wanted to
stop without any preset monetary goal (12 hours total gambling).
However, I only win about 35% of the sessions I play but I end up
ahead each and every year. There is NO substitute for learning the
strategies very well, practicing them and using them on the very best
plays.

Which
would you prefer? I would rather win more often than just when I
get a Royal, which hasn't happened to me yet.

I think you're lacking the experience to be making these types of
statements.

Thanks Rob for pointing out the obvious to us,

Play positive games and keep practicing. Just in case ...

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "optdouble" <mworcester@...> wrote:

[Rob_Singer1]

>
> I am sure this has been discussed at length before now, but I
thought
> I would offer an objective opinion to the ideas behind the Rob
Singer
> method. To those asking, I have never met Rob Singer, and have
no
> knowledge of him other than reading the VPTRUTH website, and some
of
> these forums.
>
>
> Basically, I approach the playing of Video Poker as a hobby, not

an

> obsession. I live in Texas, only go to Vegas maybe twice a year
at
> most, sometimes go to Shreveport for some gambling fun, and
otherwise
> play online poker at micro-limits (0.25/0.50) which is +EV for me.
>
>
> Up to last year, my usual experience of visiting a casino (Vegas

or

> wherever) to play video poker was to try and find the positive EV
pay
> tables at a reasonable denomination (not easy on the Strip,
basically
> impossible in Lousiana) camp on one denomination of Video Poker

and

> feed in bills, playing until one of 3 outcomes occurs:
>
>
> 1. 0 credits left = You are broke
> 2. You hit a Royal Flush ( never happened yet for me ).
> 3. You have to leave for some kind of time commitment, like
dinner
> with a friend, a show, meeting the spouse or girlfriend, or
whatever.
> 4. You hit a "Big Enough" jackpot to get ahead of the machine
> enough to think about quitting.

You can also set a time limit and just quit at that time. You may

be ahead or you may be behind. I had a friend who had played a little
VP over the years (many years) and never had a RF. Last year he hit 3
of them in one trip. Your day will come.

That's what overwhelmingly won't happen. The norm is what you see on
vpFREE all the time. The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
believes they are an advantage player because of all the junk they
bought, studied & practiced with; the overly confident but anxiously
anticipatory daze they're in as they write about their upcoming 4-day
trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip Report upon returning,
telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2 or 3 royals and a couple
sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces') and is up $2800--but
then the quick mention of how the luck disappeared and "I came home
minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much entertainment!"
That's the real world, my friends.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "optdouble" <mworcester@> wrote:

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > I am sure this has been discussed at length before now, but I
> thought
> > I would offer an objective opinion to the ideas behind the Rob
> Singer
> > method. To those asking, I have never met Rob Singer, and

have

> no
> > knowledge of him other than reading the VPTRUTH website, and

some

> of
> > these forums.
> >
> >
> > Basically, I approach the playing of Video Poker as a hobby,

not

an
> > obsession. I live in Texas, only go to Vegas maybe twice a

year

> at
> > most, sometimes go to Shreveport for some gambling fun, and
> otherwise
> > play online poker at micro-limits (0.25/0.50) which is +EV for

me.

> >
> >
> > Up to last year, my usual experience of visiting a casino

(Vegas

or
> > wherever) to play video poker was to try and find the positive

EV

> pay
> > tables at a reasonable denomination (not easy on the Strip,
> basically
> > impossible in Lousiana) camp on one denomination of Video Poker
and
> > feed in bills, playing until one of 3 outcomes occurs:
> >
> >
> > 1. 0 credits left = You are broke
> > 2. You hit a Royal Flush ( never happened yet for me ).
> > 3. You have to leave for some kind of time commitment, like
> dinner
> > with a friend, a show, meeting the spouse or girlfriend, or
> whatever.
> > 4. You hit a "Big Enough" jackpot to get ahead of the

machine

> > enough to think about quitting.
>
> You can also set a time limit and just quit at that time. You may
be ahead or you may be behind. I had a friend who had played a

little

VP over the years (many years) and never had a RF. Last year he hit

3

of them in one trip. Your day will come.

That's what overwhelmingly won't happen. The norm is what you see

on

vpFREE all the time.

Wrong, it even has a new name, the clump.

The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
believes they are an advantage player because of all the junk they
bought, studied & practiced with; the overly confident but

anxiously

anticipatory daze they're in as they write about their upcoming 4-

day

trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip Report upon returning,
telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2 or 3 royals and a couple
sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces') and is up $2800--but
then the quick mention of how the luck disappeared and "I came home
minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much entertainment!"
That's the real world, my friends.

No, that's only the PART of the real world that fits into Robbies'
con. Why don't you mention the ones that go home way ahead?

[Rob_Singer1]

> > You can also set a time limit and just quit at that time. You

may be ahead or you may be behind. I had a friend who had played a

little VP over the years (many years) and never had a RF. Last year

he hit 3 of them in one trip. Your day will come.

>
> That's what overwhelmingly won't happen. The norm is what you see
on vpFREE all the time.

Wrong, it even has a new name, the clump.

HAHAHA!

> The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
> believes they are an advantage player because of all the junk

they

> bought, studied & practiced with; the overly confident but
anxiously
> anticipatory daze they're in as they write about their upcoming 4-
day
> trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip Report upon

returning,

> telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2 or 3 royals and a

couple

> sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces') and is up $2800--

but

> then the quick mention of how the luck disappeared and "I came

home

> minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much entertainment!"
> That's the real world, my friends.

No, that's only the PART of the real world that fits into Robbies'
con. Why don't you mention the ones that go home way ahead?

Because that would be misaleading--just as what the sales-oriented
gurus and the justification-freak geeks have do all the time. Most
AP's do exactly as this fool did because they don't have the
discipline to stop.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > You can also set a time limit and just quit at that time. You
may be ahead or you may be behind. I had a friend who had played a
> little VP over the years (many years) and never had a RF. Last

year

he hit 3 of them in one trip. Your day will come.
> >
> > That's what overwhelmingly won't happen. The norm is what you

see

> on vpFREE all the time.
>
> Wrong, it even has a new name, the clump.

HAHAHA!

Oh, and did I mention that it is all mathematically consistent with
random events.

>
> > The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
> > believes they are an advantage player because of all the junk
they
> > bought, studied & practiced with; the overly confident but
> anxiously
> > anticipatory daze they're in as they write about their upcoming

4-

> day
> > trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip Report upon
returning,
> > telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2 or 3 royals and a
couple
> > sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces') and is up $2800--
but
> > then the quick mention of how the luck disappeared and "I came
home
> > minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much entertainment!"
> > That's the real world, my friends.
>
> No, that's only the PART of the real world that fits into

Robbies'

> con. Why don't you mention the ones that go home way ahead?

Because that would be misaleading--

Now you have it from the horses mouth (or is it the other end).
Telling the truth would be "misleading". Thanks for finally admitting
that deception is the name of YOUR game.

just as what the sales-oriented
gurus and the justification-freak geeks have do all the time. Most
AP's do exactly as this fool did because they don't have the
discipline to stop.

Lie. You have no idea what "Most AP's do" as has been clearly
demonstrated by me time and again on this forum.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:

[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
>
>
> > > > You can also set a time limit and just quit at that time.

You

> may be ahead or you may be behind. I had a friend who had played

a

> > little VP over the years (many years) and never had a RF. Last
year
> he hit 3 of them in one trip. Your day will come.
> > >
> > > That's what overwhelmingly won't happen. The norm is what you
see
> > on vpFREE all the time.
> >
> > Wrong, it even has a new name, the clump.
>
> HAHAHA!

Oh, and did I mention that it is all mathematically consistent with
random events.

Let's get back to CLUMPS! I need another good deep LAUGH!!!! The rest
of your ramble is consistent with your fantasy. Next.

> >
> > > The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
> > > believes they are an advantage player because of all the junk
> they
> > > bought, studied & practiced with; the overly confident but
> > anxiously
> > > anticipatory daze they're in as they write about their

upcoming

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:
4-
> > day
> > > trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip Report upon
> returning,
> > > telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2 or 3 royals and a
> couple
> > > sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces') and is up $2800-

-

> but
> > > then the quick mention of how the luck disappeared and "I

came

> home
> > > minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much

entertainment!"

> > > That's the real world, my friends.
> >
> > No, that's only the PART of the real world that fits into
Robbies'
> > con. Why don't you mention the ones that go home way ahead?
>
> Because that would be misleading--

Now you have it from the horses mouth (or is it the other end).
Telling the truth would be "misleading". Thanks for finally

admitting that deception is the name of YOUR game.

OK everybody. Let's have a show of hands for all those of you who've
gone on a gambling trip, hit TWO or THREE royals in the first day,
then wentn home AHEAD?? BEHIND?? Well there you have it, 23-457. Now
THAT's where the sense lies.....

> just as what the sales-oriented
> gurus and the justification-freak geeks have do all the time.

Most

> AP's do exactly as this fool did because they don't have the
> discipline to stop.

Lie. You have no idea what "Most AP's do" as has been clearly
demonstrated by me time and again on this forum.

YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this fool's path. YOU say
you're like most AP's! Get it???

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > > > You can also set a time limit and just quit at that time.
You
> > may be ahead or you may be behind. I had a friend who had

played

a
> > > little VP over the years (many years) and never had a RF.

Last

> year
> > he hit 3 of them in one trip. Your day will come.
> > > >
> > > > That's what overwhelmingly won't happen. The norm is what

you

> see
> > > on vpFREE all the time.
> > >
> > > Wrong, it even has a new name, the clump.
> >
> > HAHAHA!
>
> Oh, and did I mention that it is all mathematically consistent

with

> random events.

Let's get back to CLUMPS! I need another good deep LAUGH!!!! The

rest

of your ramble is consistent with your fantasy. Next.

I see you have nothing intelligent to add once again. Anyone who has
gambled has seen their share of hot streaks and, hence, has
experienced a clump. Therefore, they know it is not a fantasy. They
can see the consistency of the facts I present. And, by your
contrarian claims, the only logical conclusion (common sense) is that
you LIE.

>
> > >
> > > > The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
> > > > believes they are an advantage player because of all the

junk

> > they
> > > > bought, studied & practiced with; the overly confident but
> > > anxiously
> > > > anticipatory daze they're in as they write about their
upcoming
> 4-
> > > day
> > > > trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip Report upon
> > returning,
> > > > telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2 or 3 royals and

a

> > couple
> > > > sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces') and is up

$2800-

-
> > but
> > > > then the quick mention of how the luck disappeared and "I
came
> > home
> > > > minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much
entertainment!"
> > > > That's the real world, my friends.
> > >
> > > No, that's only the PART of the real world that fits into
> Robbies'
> > > con. Why don't you mention the ones that go home way ahead?
> >
> > Because that would be misleading--
>
> Now you have it from the horses mouth (or is it the other end).
> Telling the truth would be "misleading". Thanks for finally
admitting that deception is the name of YOUR game.

OK everybody. Let's have a show of hands for all those of you

who've

gone on a gambling trip, hit TWO or THREE royals in the first day,
then wentn home AHEAD?? BEHIND?? Well there you have it, 23-457.

Now

THAT's where the sense lies.....

Once again, little Robbie states nonsense as fact. The number would
probably be closer to 457-23. But, more importantly, how did those
who lost gamble? Did they use expert strategies? Did they take
advantage of promotions? Did they only play with the best EV? Did
they quit when they were tired or intoxicated? If they do, then they
will be better off over time. No con mans' BS can change these simple
little truths.

>
> > just as what the sales-oriented
> > gurus and the justification-freak geeks have do all the time.
Most
> > AP's do exactly as this fool did because they don't have the
> > discipline to stop.
>
> Lie. You have no idea what "Most AP's do" as has been clearly
> demonstrated by me time and again on this forum.

YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this fool's path. YOU

say

you're like most AP's! Get it???

Oh, I knew you were stating another LIE as a fact. It doesn't take
much more than a little common sense to see this. It's clear to
everyone that your own failures, along with that defective brain,
have blinded you to the benefits of AP.

[Rob_Singer1]

> Let's get back to CLUMPS! I need another good deep LAUGH!!!! The
rest of your ramble is consistent with your fantasy. Next.

I see you have nothing intelligent to add once again. Anyone who

has

gambled has seen their share of hot streaks and, hence, has
experienced a clump. Therefore, they know it is not a fantasy. They
can see the consistency of the facts I present. And, by your
contrarian claims, the only logical conclusion (common sense) is

that

you LIE.

Thank you for doing exactly as I directed you to once again. Let's
talk about the LUMPS you're taking here as you ramble on and on and
on aimlessly about a feel-good term. And the best part is....you're
giving them to YOURSELF!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

> > > > > The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
> > > > > believes they are an advantage player because of all the
junk they bought, studied & practiced with; the overly confident

but anxiously anticipatory daze they're in as they write about their

> upcoming 4-day trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip

Report upon returning,telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2 or 3
royals and a couple sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces') and
is up $2800-but then the quick mention of how the luck disappeared
and "I came home minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much

> entertainment!" That's the real world, my friends.
> > > >
> > > > No, that's only the PART of the real world that fits into
> > Robbies'
> > > > con. Why don't you mention the ones that go home way ahead?
> > >
> > > Because that would be misleading--
> >
> > Now you have it from the horses mouth (or is it the other end).
> > Telling the truth would be "misleading". Thanks for finally
> admitting that deception is the name of YOUR game.
>
> OK everybody. Let's have a show of hands for all those of you
who've gone on a gambling trip, hit TWO or THREE royals in the

first day, then wentn home AHEAD?? BEHIND?? Well there you have it,
23-457. Now THAT's where the sense lies.....

Once again, little Robbie states nonsense as fact. The number would
probably be closer to 457-23. But, more importantly, how did those
who lost gamble? Did they use expert strategies? Did they take
advantage of promotions? Did they only play with the best EV? Did
they quit when they were tired or intoxicated?

Don't stop now---you're doing a fine job of making yourself look
stupid! Didn't you hear----AP's don't GAMBLE!!

If they do, then they

will be better off over time. No con mans' BS can change these

simple little truths.

The only thing these idiots would be better off over time with is
eating less and moving more.

> > > just as what the sales-oriented
> > > gurus and the justification-freak geeks have do all the time.
> Most
> > > AP's do exactly as this fool did because they don't have the
> > > discipline to stop.
> >
> > Lie. You have no idea what "Most AP's do" as has been clearly
> > demonstrated by me time and again on this forum.
>
> YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this fool's path. YOU
say you're like most AP's! Get it???

Oh, I knew you were stating another LIE as a fact. It doesn't take
much more than a little common sense to see this. It's clear to
everyone that your own failures, along with that defective brain,
have blinded you to the benefits of AP.

Well....even after you're attempt to switch the question again, you
STILL look like Dopey.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > Let's get back to CLUMPS! I need another good deep LAUGH!!!!

The

> rest of your ramble is consistent with your fantasy. Next.
>
> I see you have nothing intelligent to add once again. Anyone who
has
> gambled has seen their share of hot streaks and, hence, has
> experienced a clump. Therefore, they know it is not a fantasy.

They

> can see the consistency of the facts I present. And, by your
> contrarian claims, the only logical conclusion (common sense) is
that
> you LIE.

Thank you for doing exactly as I directed you to once again.

Lie, you hate it when I expose your lies. Your impotent response only
serves to highlight your distress.
  

> > > > > > The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
> > > > > > believes they are an advantage player because of all

the

> junk they bought, studied & practiced with; the overly confident
but anxiously anticipatory daze they're in as they write about

their

> > upcoming 4-day trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip
Report upon returning,telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2 or

3

royals and a couple sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces')

and

is up $2800-but then the quick mention of how the luck disappeared
and "I came home minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much
> > entertainment!" That's the real world, my friends.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, that's only the PART of the real world that fits into
> > > Robbies'
> > > > > con. Why don't you mention the ones that go home way

ahead?

> > > >
> > > > Because that would be misleading--
> > >
> > > Now you have it from the horses mouth (or is it the other

end).

> > > Telling the truth would be "misleading". Thanks for finally
> > admitting that deception is the name of YOUR game.
> >
> > OK everybody. Let's have a show of hands for all those of you
> who've gone on a gambling trip, hit TWO or THREE royals in the
first day, then wentn home AHEAD?? BEHIND?? Well there you have it,
23-457. Now THAT's where the sense lies.....
>
> Once again, little Robbie states nonsense as fact. The number

would

> probably be closer to 457-23. But, more importantly, how did

those

> who lost gamble? Did they use expert strategies? Did they take
> advantage of promotions? Did they only play with the best EV? Did
> they quit when they were tired or intoxicated?

Don't stop now---

Don't worry, I won't. This oft used attempt to try and look good in
the face of devastating defeat continues to highlight everything I've
said about your con.

you're doing a fine job of making yourself look
stupid! Didn't you hear----AP's don't GAMBLE!!

More babbling, the frustation in little Robbies' defective brain is
building.

If they do, then they
> will be better off over time. No con mans' BS can change these
simple little truths.

The only thing these idiots would be better off over time with is
eating less and moving more.

The babbling continues ...

> > > > just as what the sales-oriented
> > > > gurus and the justification-freak geeks have do all the

time.

> > Most
> > > > AP's do exactly as this fool did because they don't have

the

> > > > discipline to stop.
> > >
> > > Lie. You have no idea what "Most AP's do" as has been clearly
> > > demonstrated by me time and again on this forum.
> >
> > YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this fool's path.

YOU

> say you're like most AP's! Get it???
>
> Oh, I knew you were stating another LIE as a fact. It doesn't

take

> much more than a little common sense to see this. It's clear to
> everyone that your own failures, along with that defective brain,
> have blinded you to the benefits of AP.

Well....even after you're attempt to switch the question again, you
STILL look like Dopey.

I am making you look impotent and childish. That's as good as it gets.

[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > Let's get back to CLUMPS! I need another good deep LAUGH!!!!
The rest of your ramble is consistent with your fantasy. Next.
> >
> > I see you have nothing intelligent to add once again.

Whatya mean--I'm talking CLUMPS! HAHAHA!

Anyone who

> has
> > gambled has seen their share of hot streaks and, hence, has
> > experienced a clump. Therefore, they know it is not a fantasy.
They
> > can see the consistency of the facts I present. And, by your
> > contrarian claims, the only logical conclusion (common sense)

is

> that
> > you LIE.
>
> Thank you for doing exactly as I directed you to once again.

Lie, you hate it when I expose your lies. Your impotent response

only serves to highlight your distress.

Just keep taking your BUMPS with all the CLUMPS and you'll end up in
the DUMPS!! Oh...OH...somebody STOP ME before I fall over and keep
rolling!!!!!!!!!

  
> > > > > > > The overly-excited/sweaty-palmed gambler who now
> > > > > > > believes they are an advantage player because of all
the
> > junk they bought, studied & practiced with; the overly

confident

> but anxiously anticipatory daze they're in as they write about
their
> > > upcoming 4-day trip to LV the day before; and then the Trip
> Report upon returning,telling a tale of glee as the person hit 2

or

3
> royals and a couple sets of 'ducks' (the dufuf term for 'deuces')
and
> is up $2800-but then the quick mention of how the luck

disappeared

> and "I came home minus $500, but I feel I had AT LEAST that much
> > > entertainment!" That's the real world, my friends.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, that's only the PART of the real world that fits

into

> > > > Robbies'
> > > > > > con. Why don't you mention the ones that go home way
ahead?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because that would be misleading--
> > > >
> > > > Now you have it from the horses mouth (or is it the other
end).
> > > > Telling the truth would be "misleading". Thanks for finally
> > > admitting that deception is the name of YOUR game.
> > >
> > > OK everybody. Let's have a show of hands for all those of you
> > who've gone on a gambling trip, hit TWO or THREE royals in the
> first day, then wentn home AHEAD?? BEHIND?? Well there you have

it,

> 23-457. Now THAT's where the sense lies.....
> >
> > Once again, little Robbie states nonsense as fact. The number
would
> > probably be closer to 457-23. But, more importantly, how did
those
> > who lost gamble? Did they use expert strategies? Did they take
> > advantage of promotions? Did they only play with the best EV?

Did

> > they quit when they were tired or intoxicated?
>
> Don't stop now---

Don't worry, I won't. This oft used attempt to try and look good in
the face of devastating defeat continues to highlight everything

I've said about your con.

As I ordered.... Anyway, looks like you've been TRUMPED once again!!!

> you're doing a fine job of making yourself look
> stupid! Didn't you hear----AP's don't GAMBLE!!

More babbling, the frustation in little Robbies' defective brain is
building.

And now I'm just starting to get PUMPED!!

> If they do, then they
> > will be better off over time. No con mans' BS can change these
> simple little truths.
>
> The only thing these idiots would be better off over time with is
> eating less and moving more.

The babbling continues ...

I know--It's sooo hard dealing with the truth, esp. when it depicts
you along with the rest of them.

>
> > > > > just as what the sales-oriented
> > > > > gurus and the justification-freak geeks have do all the
time.
> > > Most
> > > > > AP's do exactly as this fool did because they don't have
the
> > > > > discipline to stop.
> > > >
> > > > Lie. You have no idea what "Most AP's do" as has been

clearly

> > > > demonstrated by me time and again on this forum.
> > >
> > > YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this fool's path.
YOU
> > say you're like most AP's! Get it???
> >
> > Oh, I knew you were stating another LIE as a fact. It doesn't
take
> > much more than a little common sense to see this. It's clear to
> > everyone that your own failures, along with that defective

brain,

> > have blinded you to the benefits of AP.
>
> Well....even after you're attempt to switch the question again,

you STILL look like Dopey.

I am making you look impotent and childish. That's as good as it

gets.

As little dicky continues to talk out of his RUMP! This is more fun
than pulling down your pants in the girls gym!!

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

[rgmustain]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > > Let's get back to CLUMPS! I need another good deep

LAUGH!!!!

> The rest of your ramble is consistent with your fantasy. Next.
> > >
> > > I see you have nothing intelligent to add once again.

Whatya mean--I'm talking CLUMPS! HAHAHA!

That you are ...

Anyone who
> > has
> > > gambled has seen their share of hot streaks and, hence, has
> > > experienced a clump. Therefore, they know it is not a

fantasy.

> They
> > > can see the consistency of the facts I present. And, by your
> > > contrarian claims, the only logical conclusion (common sense)
is
> > that
> > > you LIE.
> >
> > Thank you for doing exactly as I directed you to once again.
>
> Lie, you hate it when I expose your lies. Your impotent response
only serves to highlight your distress.

Just keep taking your BUMPS with all the CLUMPS and you'll end up

in

the DUMPS!! Oh...OH...somebody STOP ME before I fall over and keep
rolling!!!!!!!!!

At least you finally came up with something a little clever. That
extra white matter must have kicked in. Of course, it provides no
useful information, but then neither does any of your other
responses. So take your LUMPs (that's the common usage) ... admit
that randomness will result in CLUMPs of winning hands.

> > > > OK everybody. Let's have a show of hands for all those of

you

> > > who've gone on a gambling trip, hit TWO or THREE royals in

the

> > first day, then wentn home AHEAD?? BEHIND?? Well there you have
it,
> > 23-457. Now THAT's where the sense lies.....
> > >
> > > Once again, little Robbie states nonsense as fact. The number
> would
> > > probably be closer to 457-23. But, more importantly, how did
> those
> > > who lost gamble? Did they use expert strategies? Did they

take

> > > advantage of promotions? Did they only play with the best EV?
Did
> > > they quit when they were tired or intoxicated?
> >
> > Don't stop now---
>
> Don't worry, I won't. This oft used attempt to try and look good

in

> the face of devastating defeat continues to highlight everything
I've said about your con.

As I ordered.... Anyway, looks like you've been TRUMPED once

again!!!

And, as I served up. Your devastating defeat.

>
> > you're doing a fine job of making yourself look
> > stupid! Didn't you hear----AP's don't GAMBLE!!
>
> More babbling, the frustation in little Robbies' defective brain

is

> building.

And now I'm just starting to get PUMPED!!

But still lacking anything to get pumped about.

> > If they do, then they
> > > will be better off over time. No con mans' BS can change

these

> > simple little truths.
> >
> > The only thing these idiots would be better off over time with

is

> > eating less and moving more.
>
> The babbling continues ...

I know--It's sooo hard dealing with the truth, esp. when it depicts
you along with the rest of them.

Once again the psycho give us insight into his defective brain. He
generalizes ... "the rest of them" ... as if everyone but him is
lying. Thanks for the insight.

> > > > YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this fool's

path.

> YOU
> > > say you're like most AP's! Get it???
> > >
> > > Oh, I knew you were stating another LIE as a fact. It doesn't
> take
> > > much more than a little common sense to see this. It's clear

to

> > > everyone that your own failures, along with that defective
brain,
> > > have blinded you to the benefits of AP.
> >
> > Well....even after you're attempt to switch the question again,
you STILL look like Dopey.
>
> I am making you look impotent and childish. That's as good as it
gets.

As little dicky continues to talk out of his RUMP! This is more fun
than pulling down your pants in the girls gym!!

GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's abilities
and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart.
Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human
beings.
PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they
will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form,
they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous,
manipulative, and dishonest.
LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the
losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned,
dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually
demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.
EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age 13,
including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual
activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away
from home.

I thought everyone would appreciate some descriptions of Robbies'
behavior from my last reference. He demonstrated all of these traits
in his last post.

[Rob_Singer1]

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > > > Let's get back to CLUMPS! I need another good deep
LAUGH!!!!
> > The rest of your ramble is consistent with your fantasy. Next.
> > > >
> > > > I see you have nothing intelligent to add once again.
>
> Whatya mean--I'm talking CLUMPS! HAHAHA!

That you are ...

So take your LUMPS like a good little man!

Thank you for doing exactly as I directed you to once again.
> >
> > Lie, you hate it when I expose your lies. Your impotent

response only serves to highlight your distress.

>
> Just keep taking your BUMPS with all the CLUMPS and you'll end up
in the DUMPS!! Oh...OH...somebody STOP ME before I fall over and

keep rolling!!!!!!!!!

At least you finally came up with something a little clever. That
extra white matter must have kicked in. Of course, it provides no
useful information, but then neither does any of your other
responses. So take your LUMPs (that's the common usage) ... admit
that randomness will result in CLUMPs of winning hands.

CLUMPS is stupid, and a term for geeks who get bored easily. When
will little dicky ever admit he's in one of his famous SLUMPS!! Oh my
goodness.........

> > > > > OK everybody. Let's have a show of hands for all those of
you who've gone on a gambling trip, hit TWO or THREE royals in
the first day, then wentn home AHEAD?? BEHIND?? Well there you have
> it, 23-457. Now THAT's where the sense lies.....
> > > >
> > > > Once again, little Robbie states nonsense as fact. The

number would probably be closer to 457-23. But, more importantly, how
did those who lost gamble? Did they use expert strategies? Did they

take advantage of promotions? Did they only play with the best EV?
> Did they quit when they were tired or intoxicated?
> > >
> > > Don't stop now---
> >
> > Don't worry, I won't. This oft used attempt to try and look

good inthe face of devastating defeat continues to highlight
everything I've said about your con.

>
> As I ordered.... Anyway, looks like you've been TRUMPED once
again!!!

And, as I served up. Your devastating defeat.

Oh well, I'll order another roll of toilet paper. I'll try my best to
get over the HUMPS! HAHAHAHA!!! This is more fun that dismantling you
array of selective interpretations!

> > > you're doing a fine job of making yourself look
> > > stupid! Didn't you hear----AP's don't GAMBLE!!
> >
> > More babbling, the frustation in little Robbies' defective

brain is building.

>
> And now I'm just starting to get PUMPED!!

But still lacking anything to get pumped about.

And it looks like little dicky just got THUMPED!

> > > If they do, then they
> > > > will be better off over time. No con mans' BS can change
these
> > > simple little truths.
> > >
> > > The only thing these idiots would be better off over time

with is eating less and moving more.

> >
> > The babbling continues ...
>
> I know--It's sooo hard dealing with the truth, esp. when it

depicts you along with the rest of them.

Once again the psycho give us insight into his defective brain. He
generalizes ... "the rest of them" ... as if everyone but him is
lying. Thanks for the insight.

"The rest of them" is the fatties--you know--the overweights who pray
for hours on end at the alter of the video poker machine masquerading
as 'holding an edge'!?

> > > > > YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this fool's
path. YOU say you're like most AP's! Get it???
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I knew you were stating another LIE as a fact.

I missed that earlier. For the first time you've actually said
you 'knew' something! Must have it in writing somewhere and with my
signature for you to be so bold as not to continue on with the
usual "I suspect" or "I think" or the ever-popular "I think most
people would agree"!

It doesn't take much more than a little common sense to see this.
It's clear to everyone that your own failures, along with that
defective

> brain, have blinded you to the benefits of AP.
> > >
> > > Well....even after you're attempt to switch the question

again, you STILL look like Dopey.

> >
> > I am making you look impotent and childish. That's as good as

it gets.

>
> As little dicky continues to talk out of his RUMP! This is more

fun than pulling down your pants in the girls gym!!

GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's abilities
and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart.
Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human
beings.
PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form,

they

will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form,
they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous,
manipulative, and dishonest.
LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the
losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be

unconcerned,

dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually
demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.
EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age 13,
including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual
activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running

away

from home.

I thought everyone would appreciate some descriptions of Robbies'
behavior from my last reference. He demonstrated all of these

traits in his last post.

Whew! I know I do have a LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT over your losses,
your pain, and the sufferring you experience in your family because
of the pathological gambling problem that's rampant there. But I
never sniffed glue--only college girl's underpants (if they wore
them) and gee, I'm not arrogant. I thought you said Dancer was. I
consider that a put-down! HEE-HAW HEE-HAW

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wrote:

> > > > > > Let's get back to CLUMPS! I need another good deep
> LAUGH!!!!
> > > The rest of your ramble is consistent with your fantasy. Next.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see you have nothing intelligent to add once again.
> >
> > Whatya mean--I'm talking CLUMPS! HAHAHA!
>
> That you are ...

So take your LUMPS like a good little man!

Sorry, you're too late, I already used that one.

>
> Thank you for doing exactly as I directed you to once again.
> > >
> > > Lie, you hate it when I expose your lies. Your impotent
response only serves to highlight your distress.
> >
> > Just keep taking your BUMPS with all the CLUMPS and you'll end

up

> in the DUMPS!! Oh...OH...somebody STOP ME before I fall over and
keep rolling!!!!!!!!!
>
> At least you finally came up with something a little clever. That
> extra white matter must have kicked in. Of course, it provides no
> useful information, but then neither does any of your other
> responses. So take your LUMPs (that's the common usage) ... admit
> that randomness will result in CLUMPs of winning hands.

CLUMPS is stupid, and a term for geeks who get bored easily.

By getting to Robbie, the clump is king.

When
will little dicky ever admit he's in one of his famous SLUMPS!!

I admitted it last fall (I really couldn't expect to maintain a 5%
winning edge all year), but then the slump ended. Now, thanks to that
little $3200 win, it is long forgotten.

>
> > > > > > OK everybody. Let's have a show of hands for all those

of

> you who've gone on a gambling trip, hit TWO or THREE royals in
> the first day, then wentn home AHEAD?? BEHIND?? Well there you

have

> > it, 23-457. Now THAT's where the sense lies.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Once again, little Robbie states nonsense as fact. The
number would probably be closer to 457-23. But, more importantly,

how

did those who lost gamble? Did they use expert strategies? Did they
> take advantage of promotions? Did they only play with the best

EV?

> > Did they quit when they were tired or intoxicated?
> > > >
> > > > Don't stop now---
> > >
> > > Don't worry, I won't. This oft used attempt to try and look
good inthe face of devastating defeat continues to highlight
everything I've said about your con.
> >
> > As I ordered.... Anyway, looks like you've been TRUMPED once
> again!!!
>
> And, as I served up. Your devastating defeat.

Oh well, I'll order another roll of toilet paper. I'll try my best

to

get over the HUMPS! HAHAHAHA!!! This is more fun that dismantling

you

array of selective interpretations!

While it was clever for a while, you've now lost it again. This last
attempt at humor didn't even fit.

A2. The serial bully is a practised liar with a Jekyll and Hyde
nature who gains gratification from bullying others. The serial bully
will select and bully any person whom he or she believes is a threat
to them (the threat is of exposure of the bully's inadequacy) and
whose exposure would threaten the bully's job, promotion prospects
and standing within the hierarchy.

I really think this last description fits Rob especially well.

> > > > you're doing a fine job of making yourself look
> > > > stupid! Didn't you hear----AP's don't GAMBLE!!
> > >
> > > More babbling, the frustation in little Robbies' defective
brain is building.
> >
> > And now I'm just starting to get PUMPED!!
>
> But still lacking anything to get pumped about.

And it looks like little dicky just got THUMPED!

Yawn ... boring. I think you missed JUMP and PLUMP. Or, are they
coming?

> > > > If they do, then they
> > > > > will be better off over time. No con mans' BS can change
> these
> > > > simple little truths.
> > > >
> > > > The only thing these idiots would be better off over time
with is eating less and moving more.
> > >
> > > The babbling continues ...
> >
> > I know--It's sooo hard dealing with the truth, esp. when it
depicts you along with the rest of them.
>
> Once again the psycho give us insight into his defective brain.

He

> generalizes ... "the rest of them" ... as if everyone but him is
> lying. Thanks for the insight.

"The rest of them" is the fatties--you know--the overweights who

pray

for hours on end at the alter of the video poker machine

masquerading

as 'holding an edge'!?

LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the
losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned,
dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually
demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.

>
> > > > > > YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this fool's
> path. YOU say you're like most AP's! Get it???
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, I knew you were stating another LIE as a fact.

I missed that earlier. For the first time you've actually said
you 'knew' something! Must have it in writing somewhere and with my
signature for you to be so bold as not to continue on with the
usual "I suspect" or "I think" or the ever-popular "I think most
people would agree"!

It's far from the first thing you missed. And, I'm sure it will not
be the last.

It doesn't take much more than a little common sense to see this.
It's clear to everyone that your own failures, along with that
defective
> > brain, have blinded you to the benefits of AP.
> > > >
> > > > Well....even after you're attempt to switch the question
again, you STILL look like Dopey.
> > >
> > > I am making you look impotent and childish. That's as good as
it gets.
> >
> > As little dicky continues to talk out of his RUMP! This is more
fun than pulling down your pants in the girls gym!!
>
> GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's

abilities

> and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart.
> Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior

human

> beings.
> PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form,
they
> will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme

form,

> they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous,
> manipulative, and dishonest.
> LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the
> losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be
unconcerned,
> dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually
> demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.
> EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age

13,

> including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual
> activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running
away
> from home.

> I thought everyone would appreciate some descriptions of Robbies'
> behavior from my last reference. He demonstrated all of these
traits in his last post.

Whew! I know I do have a LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT over your losses,
your pain, and the sufferring you experience in your family because
of the pathological gambling problem that's rampant there. But I
never sniffed glue--only college girl's underpants (if they wore
them) and gee, I'm not arrogant. I thought you said Dancer was. I
consider that a put-down! HEE-HAW HEE-HAW

GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM -- the tendency to be smooth, engaging,
charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in
the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A
psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from
the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

[Rob_Singer1]

> > > Whatya mean--I'm talking CLUMPS! HAHAHA!
> >
> > That you are ...
>
> So take your LUMPS like a good little man!

Sorry, you're too late, I already used that one.

> > Thank you for doing exactly as I directed you to once again.
> > > >
> > > > Lie, you hate it when I expose your lies. Your impotent
> response only serves to highlight your distress.
> > >
> > > Just keep taking your BUMPS with all the CLUMPS and you'll

end up in the DUMPS!! Oh...OH...somebody STOP ME before I fall over
and keep rolling!!!!!!!!!

So take your LUMPs (that's the common usage) ... admit
> > that randomness will result in CLUMPs of winning hands.
>
> CLUMPS is stupid, and a term for geeks who get bored easily.

By getting to Robbie, the clump is king.

If you weren't so PLUMP I'd take that as a THUMP!

> When
> will little dicky ever admit he's in one of his famous SLUMPS!!

I admitted it last fall (I really couldn't expect to maintain a 5%
winning edge all year), but then the slump ended. Now, thanks to

that little $3200 win, it is long forgotten.

LITTLE is right! And 5%? If I weren't at at least 250% I'd pack it
up. Of course I'm higher than that right now because of several large
hits, but at 5% I'd rather go fishing.
  

Did they quit when they were tired or intoxicated?

> > > > > Don't stop now---
> > > >
> > > > Don't worry, I won't. This oft used attempt to try and look
> good in the face of devastating defeat continues to highlight
> everything I've said about your con.
> > >
> > > As I ordered.... Anyway, looks like you've been TRUMPED once
> > again!!!
> >
> > And, as I served up. Your devastating defeat.
>
> Oh well, I'll order another roll of toilet paper. I'll try my

best to get over the HUMPS! HAHAHAHA!!! This is more fun than
dismantling your array of selective interpretations!

While it was clever for a while, you've now lost it again. This

last attempt at humor didn't even fit.

A2. The serial bully is a practised liar with a Jekyll and Hyde
nature who gains gratification from bullying others. The serial

bully will select and bully any person whom he or she believes is a
threat to them (the threat is of exposure of the bully's inadequacy)
and whose exposure would threaten the bully's job, promotion
prospects and standing within the hierarchy.

I really think this last description fits Rob especially well.

Every time you cut & paste one of these things there's a spike in
book orders for some reason. Maybe it's the way you do it!

> > > > > you're doing a fine job of making yourself look
> > > > > stupid! Didn't you hear----AP's don't GAMBLE!!
> > > >
> > > > More babbling, the frustation in little Robbies' defective
> brain is building.
> > >
> > > And now I'm just starting to get PUMPED!!
> >
> > But still lacking anything to get pumped about.
>
> And it looks like little dicky just got THUMPED!

Yawn ... boring. I think you missed JUMP and PLUMP. Or, are they
coming?

Right now they're in PAHRUMP

> > > > > The only thing these idiots would be better off over time
> with is eating less and moving more.
> > > >
> > > > The babbling continues ...
> > >
> > > I know--It's sooo hard dealing with the truth, esp. when it
> depicts you along with the rest of them.
> >
> > Once again the psycho give us insight into his defective brain.
He generalizes ... "the rest of them" ... as if everyone but him is
> > lying. Thanks for the insight.
>
> "The rest of them" is the fatties--you know--the overweights who
pray for hours on end at the alter of the video poker machine
masquerading as 'holding an edge'!?

LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the
losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be

unconcerned,

dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually
demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.

I like this one. Slapping a nerd where it hurts is ESPECIALLY
satisfying to me. Watching them suffer due to their own inadequacies
and self-disrespect is a real gas!

> > > > > > > YOU claim to be an AP. YOU claim to follow this

fool's path. YOU say you're like most AP's! Get it???

> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, I knew you were stating another LIE as a fact.
>
> I missed that earlier. For the first time you've actually said
> you 'knew' something! Must have it in writing somewhere and with

my signature for you to be so bold as not to continue on with the

> usual "I suspect" or "I think" or the ever-popular "I think most
> people would agree"!

It's far from the first thing you missed. And, I'm sure it will not
be the last.

Probably. You're just too entertaining to completely concentrate on
all the feel-good BS you write about yourself and your gambling
problem.

> It doesn't take much more than a little common sense to see

this. It's clear to everyone that your own failures, along with that

> defective brain, have blinded you to the benefits of AP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well....even after you're attempt to switch the question
> again, you STILL look like Dopey.
> > > >
> > > > I am making you look impotent and childish. That's as good

as it gets.

> > >
> > > As little dicky continues to talk out of his RUMP! This is

more fun than pulling down your pants in the girls gym!!

> >
> > GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's
abilities
> > and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart.
> > Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior
human
> > beings.
> > PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate

form,

> they
> > will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme
form,
> > they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous,
> > manipulative, and dishonest.
> > LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for

the

> > losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be
> unconcerned,
> > dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is

usually

> > demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.
> > EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age
13,
> > including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual
> > activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running
> away
> > from home.
>
> > I thought everyone would appreciate some descriptions of

Robbies' behavior from my last reference. He demonstrated all of
these traits in his last post.

>
> Whew! I know I do have a LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT over your

losses, your pain, and the sufferring you experience in your family
because of the pathological gambling problem that's rampant there.
But I never sniffed glue--only college girl's underpants (if they
wore them) and gee, I'm not arrogant. I thought you said Dancer was.
I consider that a put-down! HEE-HAW HEE-HAW

GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM -- the tendency to be smooth, engaging,
charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in
the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A
psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from
the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

Sounds like another compliment to me!

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