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Illinois casinos lost 17% since Jan. No smoking ban is really kicking in.
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Illinois casinos lost 17% since Jan. No smoking ban is really
kicking in.
Correllation does not equal causation. There is no more reason to
believe that these events are related than that the loss in casino
revenue was caused by my recent purchase of an IPod (EVEN
THOUGH...THEY HAPPENED at THE EXACT SAME TIME!!!!).
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Zelisko" <szelisk@...> wrote:
Sorry, but I beg to differ with you. Revenue was doing fine in ALL
preceeding months prior to the smoking ban, then when it starts, revenue
goes down. I do think there is a stronger correllation to decrease in
revenue and smoking ban!!
On 2/12/08, tralfamidorgooglycrackers <tralfamidorgooglycrackers@yahoo.com> wrote:
Correllation does not equal causation. There is no more reason to
believe that these events are related than that the loss in casino
revenue was caused by my recent purchase of an IPod (EVEN
THOUGH...THEY HAPPENED at THE EXACT SAME TIME!!!!).
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Officals of the Illinois Gaming Association estimate that the state
will lose as much as 20 percent of gaming revenues as a result of the
smoking ban because of gamblers traveling to other nearby riverboat
states.
And Susan, don't ever expect that smoking ban proponents will admit
that the smoking ban caused the loss of revenue. It doesn't serve
their purpose.
Sorry, but I beg to differ with you. Revenue was doing fine in ALL
preceeding months prior to the smoking ban, then when it starts,
revenue
goes down. I do think there is a stronger correllation to decrease
in
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Zelisko" <szelisk@...> wrote:
revenue and smoking ban!!
On 2/12/08, tralfamidorgooglycrackers <tralfamidorgooglycrackers@...> > wrote:
>
>
> Correllation does not equal causation. There is no more reason to
> believe that these events are related than that the loss in casino
> revenue was caused by my recent purchase of an IPod (EVEN
> THOUGH...THEY HAPPENED at THE EXACT SAME TIME!!!!).
>
>
>
Historically, you can't look at the first 6 months or so. Business always declines during that initial period of a smoking ban. Also, so far it has always returned afterwards. We'll see.
At 05:50 AM 2/13/2008, you wrote:
Sorry, but I beg to differ with you. Revenue was doing fine in ALL
preceeding months prior to the smoking ban, then when it starts, revenue
goes down. I do think there is a stronger correllation to decrease in
revenue and smoking ban!!On 2/12/08, tralfamidorgooglycrackers <tralfamidorgooglycrackers@yahoo.com> >wrote:
>
> Correllation does not equal causation. There is no more reason to
> believe that these events are related than that the loss in casino
> revenue was caused by my recent purchase of an IPod (EVEN
> THOUGH...THEY HAPPENED at THE EXACT SAME TIME!!!!).
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And where did you get your medical degree? If you know something that goes against what every Surgen General since 1964 has been saying, I assume your a doctor with a couple more doctorate's on the side.
Ned C.
The Wild Joker
Illinois casinos lost 17% since Jan. No smoking ban is really
kicking in.
Correllation does not equal causation. There is no more reason to
believe that these events are related than that the loss in casino
revenue was caused by my recent purchase of an IPod (EVEN
THOUGH...THEY HAPPENED at THE EXACT SAME TIME!!!!).
tralfamidorgooglycrackers <tralfamidorgooglycrackers@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Zelisko" <szelisk@...> wrote:
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Sorry, but I beg to differ with you. Revenue was doing fine in ALL
preceeding months prior to the smoking ban, then when it starts,
revenue
goes down. I do think there is a stronger correllation to
decrease in
revenue and smoking ban!!
I did not deny that there was a CORRELATION. What I SAID was that
there was no CAUSATION implied by that correlation. Let me explain:
A. In 1988, 2000, and 2004, we elected a Republican president.
B. In 1989, 2001, and 2005, the tangerine harvest hit record lows.
There is definitely a correlation between A and B.
There is no causal link (no causation) between A and B.
For any events A and B, the fact that A happens, then B happens,
does NOT imply that A CAUSED B.
Therefore, to use the example of casino smoking bans and revenue,
the fact that revenues dropped after the smoking ban does NOT mean
that the smoking ban caused the drop in revenue.
I hope this clears up your confusion.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Zelisko" <szelisk@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tralfamidorgooglycrackers"
<tralfamidorgooglycrackers@...> wrote:
For any events A and B, the fact that A happens, then B happens,
does NOT imply that A CAUSED B.Therefore, to use the example of casino smoking bans and revenue,
the fact that revenues dropped after the smoking ban does NOT mean
that the smoking ban caused the drop in revenue.
I haven't read the posts on the underlying topic, but it's not
necessary in order to agree with this particular statement made by
tra...crackers.
The class was Inferential and Descriptive Statistics 
Mac
kicking in.
How about the recession or the weather. At one time there was almost
perfect correlation between chewing tobaco sales and junvenile
delinquency.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Zelisko" <szelisk@...> wrote:
Illinois casinos lost 17% since Jan. No smoking ban is really
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, The Wild Joker <jokerswild1203@...>
wrote:
And where did you get your medical degree? If you know something
that goes against what every Surgen General since 1964 has been
saying, I assume your a doctor with a couple more doctorate's on the
side.
Ned C.
The Wild Jokertralfamidorgooglycrackers <tralfamidorgooglycrackers@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Zelisko" <szelisk@>
wrote:
>
> Illinois casinos lost 17% since Jan. No smoking ban is really
kicking in.
>
Correllation does not equal causation. There is no more reason to
believe that these events are related than that the loss in casino
revenue was caused by my recent purchase of an IPod (EVEN
THOUGH...THEY HAPPENED at THE EXACT SAME TIME!!!!).
I think his post agreed more with you than the first poster