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Cheating

In Video Poker look at Spin Poker. If you do not have the turbo set, it
gives the impression of near misses. Playing DW on these and you may see a
deuce roll through the screen on the draw without stopping. I am not even
sure that those "non used" cards are totally random and they do not have to
be in an honest game if they are just there for show.

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[Original Message]
From: crazydonconcepts <crazydonconcepts@earthlink.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 1/17/2004 6:34:04 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Cheating

Resulting in RNG gets 1 billionth nanosecond rest? Why? Shut up an
deal! CD-

-- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Velek <billvelek@a...> wrote:
> I think it is possible to have a statistically honest game in VP
and
> still use the psychology of near misses, although I've not sure
whether
> that would be in vilation of any laws or not (depends upon the
wording
> of the laws).
>
> For instance, let's say that you hold a single Hi-card in JoB -- a
Ks --
> and the machine/program _RANDOMLY_ determines at the time of your
draw
> that you have hit a Flush -- but not a Royal Flush. Let's say
that you
> the _random_ draw would give you a KJ732s. As long as the machine
still
> pays you for the flush -- which is what you have accurately won
> according to a random draw -- what difference does it make if it
> displays a KQJT3s? I could easily draft a law that would permit
that
> while, at the same time, still preserve randomness ... at least
insofar
> as winning hands vs. losing hands is concerned. Admittedly, you
would
> end with a disproportinate number of 4-Royals as the end result,
but no
> one would be cheated out of any wins.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Bill Velek

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If u ever play real poker, dealer don't throw out cards and take 'em
back to amuse table folk as u wait. VP is designed to be 1 person
playing poker with dealer, against single deck, one toss one draw. CD

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@e...>
wrote:

In Video Poker look at Spin Poker. If you do not have the turbo

set, it

gives the impression of near misses. Playing DW on these and you

may see a

deuce roll through the screen on the draw without stopping. I am

not even

sure that those "non used" cards are totally random and they do

not have to

be in an honest game if they are just there for show.

> [Original Message]
> From: crazydonconcepts <crazydonconcepts@e...>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 1/17/2004 6:34:04 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Cheating
>
> Resulting in RNG gets 1 billionth nanosecond rest? Why? Shut up

an

> deal! CD-
>
> > I think it is possible to have a statistically honest game in

VP

> and
> > still use the psychology of near misses, although I've not

sure

> whether
> > that would be in vilation of any laws or not (depends upon the
> wording
> > of the laws).
> >
> > For instance, let's say that you hold a single Hi-card in JoB -

- a

> Ks --
> > and the machine/program _RANDOMLY_ determines at the time of

your

> draw
> > that you have hit a Flush -- but not a Royal Flush. Let's say
> that you
> > the _random_ draw would give you a KJ732s. As long as the

machine

> still
> > pays you for the flush -- which is what you have accurately

won

> > according to a random draw -- what difference does it make if

it

> > displays a KQJT3s? I could easily draft a law that would

permit

> that
> > while, at the same time, still preserve randomness ... at

least

> insofar
> > as winning hands vs. losing hands is concerned. Admittedly,

you

> would
> > end with a disproportinate number of 4-Royals as the end

result,

> but no
> > one would be cheated out of any wins.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Bill Velek
>
>
> vpFREE Links: http://www.west-

point.org/users/usma1955/20228/VP/Links.htm

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