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Charlie's East goes all negative

Is NSUD such a bad play at Arizona Charlies? At Decatur for
$20,000 coin-in (2000 hands on $2 denomination) at 99.73% you get $250
Action cash plus $30 bounce back on weekends or 99.73% + 1.4% = 101.13%.
The only catch is you have to go there at least 6 times a week unless you
do your playing between 2330 and 0300 to get two days of cashback in one
trip. My understanding is you can do the same at Boulder (4000 hands on
$1 denomination). That's an expected return of $452 per week for playing
6000 hands at just 2 casinos (and granted a lot of running around). You
will also be earning comps and both locations have tons of drawings all
the time if you are into that kind of thing. I guess I'm just saying
that I think the characterization that they are being greedy or cheap is
a little strong in my opinion.

After the downgrade, the best NSUD at ACE that I was able to find was 6
points for every $10. I haven't bothered to look at ACW. That would be
$33333 coin-in for the max. Action plus bounce back = $280 or .84% + 93.73%
= 100.57%. Not interested.

10,000 points would be $16667 coin-in for $125 + $20 bounce back or 100.6%.
Not interested.

Not interested in going to ACE 6 days a week for lesser amounts of Action
cash although your return improves a bit.

If ACW really has NSUD that gives 1 point/dollar then that would be a decent
play above the quarter level.

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-----Original Message-----
From: johnfiske@juno.com [mailto:johnfi…@…com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:00 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Charlie's East goes all negative

        Is NSUD such a bad play at Arizona Charlies? At Decatur for
$20,000 coin-in (2000 hands on $2 denomination) at 99.73% you get $250
Action cash plus $30 bounce back on weekends or 99.73% + 1.4% = 101.13%.
The only catch is you have to go there at least 6 times a week unless you
do your playing between 2330 and 0300 to get two days of cashback in one
trip. My understanding is you can do the same at Boulder (4000 hands on
$1 denomination). That's an expected return of $452 per week for playing
6000 hands at just 2 casinos (and granted a lot of running around). You
will also be earning comps and both locations have tons of drawings all
the time if you are into that kind of thing. I guess I'm just saying
that I think the characterization that they are being greedy or cheap is
a little strong in my opinion.

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You are under the impression that you get 1 point per $1. This is NOT
true, or at least, I cannot find it.
The NSU's are about 7 points per $10. This means playing $14+ to get
the 10 points.
But they are not greedy.???

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:00:08 -0800, you wrote:

       Is NSUD such a bad play at Arizona Charlies? At Decatur for
$20,000 coin-in (2000 hands on $2 denomination) at 99.73% you get $250
Action cash plus $30 bounce back on weekends or 99.73% + 1.4% = 101.13%.
The only catch is you have to go there at least 6 times a week unless you
do your playing between 2330 and 0300 to get two days of cashback in one
trip. My understanding is you can do the same at Boulder (4000 hands on
$1 denomination). That's an expected return of $452 per week for playing
6000 hands at just 2 casinos (and granted a lot of running around). You
will also be earning comps and both locations have tons of drawings all
the time if you are into that kind of thing. I guess I'm just saying
that I think the characterization that they are being greedy or cheap is
a little strong in my opinion.

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You are under the impression that you get 1 point per $1. This is

NOT

true, or at least, I cannot find it.
The NSU's are about 7 points per $10. This means playing $14+ to

get

the 10 points.
But they are not greedy.???

No they"re not greedy, they"re just running a business. If you don't
like their policies don't patronize them.

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