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CC Times - Trump Casino Has Good News for Video Poker Players

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10-6 DDB at the $5 level shorts the regular quads and the SF to 239 not
250. (Grochowski did note this in his article.) Trump is known for this as
some 25c Triple Plays short the regular quads on 8-5 super aces and 9-6DDB
to 200. SF is increased but both games are more than 1% weaker than they
should be.

[Original Message]
From: vp_nbi <nbi@wideopenwest.com>
To: <vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 3/1/2005 11:26:53 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_Chicago] Re: CC Times - Trump Casino Has Good News for

Video Poker Players

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A move in the right direction. I wish the Trump exec would have
enlisted Howard for this audit! I'd be willing to help too, but would
probably have ruffled some feathers. :slight_smile:

Some "nits" that I have with the article:
1. As Howard correctly points out, in the absence of meaningful BB/CB
nothing new at Trump represents a positive play.
2. Grochowski is quite generous as to what he calls a "strong play"
(without BB/CB considerations). I draw the line at 9/6 JOB, having
weaned myself off DDB long ago.
3. The author reports "the first appearance in this market of
super-full pay 10-6 Double Double Bonus". Hmmmm. How is this possible?
10/6 DDB is a 100.07% game. Doesn't Indiana law limit paybacks to 100%?
4. "Five Play Multi-Strike provides extra fun and reduces the extreme
volatility of Multi-Strike". While it is fun, the observation on
volatility is contrary to previously published reports. Injecting
covariance into a game amplifies the swings (i.e. "volatility") of
results, it does not reduce them. I'm surprised "the cat" didn't jump
all over this. Perhaps he was defanged by Don & Mikes $.05 100 plays? :slight_smile:
5. One thing that is usually missing in these types of reports (and I
don't fault only John for this) is any reference to the variance of
the new games. When casino execs hire someone like Bob Dancer, guess
what he recommends? High payback percentage (which casino marketing
loves) games with ultra high variance (which kill the average vp
player who plays with neither a sufficient playing nor session
bankroll). The casino ends up happy and so does good ole Bob as he
sells more strategy cards and writes more columns to cover these games.

Yes, Trump's interest in improving their vp inventory is certainly a
positive development, but sofar is no threat to unseat MS supremacy
resulting in any defections of vp regulars.

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> John Grochowski column:
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> http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/articles/16954.html
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> <a href="http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/articles/16954.html">
> http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/articles/16954.html</a>

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--- In vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern"
<howard.w.stern@e...> wrote:

10-6 DDB at the $5 level shorts the regular quads and the SF to 239 not
250. (Grochowski did note this in his article.)

Yes, after reading it again I see that now. The author's rambling
writing style tripped me up. One paragraph finishes with "All the
other games..."(which implies 10/6 is not part of this set), but 2
paragraphs down he has an explicit reference to 10/6 DDB. Did I ever
mention that the style and format of "The Video Poker Answer Book"
drives me absolutely nuts? :slight_smile:

Trump is known for this as
some 25c Triple Plays short the regular quads on 8-5 super aces and

9-6DDB

to 200. SF is increased but both games are more than 1% weaker than they
should be.

What baffles me is why can't these casinos deploy a version of KB
Joker Poker that's 100%?

> [Original Message]
> From: vp_nbi <nbi@w...>
> To: <vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 3/1/2005 11:26:53 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE_Chicago] Re: CC Times - Trump Casino Has Good

News for

Video Poker Players
>
>
>
> A move in the right direction. I wish the Trump exec would have
> enlisted Howard for this audit! I'd be willing to help too, but would
> probably have ruffled some feathers. :slight_smile:
>
> Some "nits" that I have with the article:
> 1. As Howard correctly points out, in the absence of meaningful BB/CB
> nothing new at Trump represents a positive play.
> 2. Grochowski is quite generous as to what he calls a "strong play"
> (without BB/CB considerations). I draw the line at 9/6 JOB, having
> weaned myself off DDB long ago.
> 3. The author reports "the first appearance in this market of
> super-full pay 10-6 Double Double Bonus". Hmmmm. How is this possible?
> 10/6 DDB is a 100.07% game. Doesn't Indiana law limit paybacks to

100%?

> 4. "Five Play Multi-Strike provides extra fun and reduces the extreme
> volatility of Multi-Strike". While it is fun, the observation on
> volatility is contrary to previously published reports. Injecting
> covariance into a game amplifies the swings (i.e. "volatility") of
> results, it does not reduce them. I'm surprised "the cat" didn't jump
> all over this. Perhaps he was defanged by Don & Mikes $.05 100

plays? :slight_smile:

> 5. One thing that is usually missing in these types of reports (and I
> don't fault only John for this) is any reference to the variance of
> the new games. When casino execs hire someone like Bob Dancer, guess
> what he recommends? High payback percentage (which casino marketing
> loves) games with ultra high variance (which kill the average vp
> player who plays with neither a sufficient playing nor session
> bankroll). The casino ends up happy and so does good ole Bob as he
> sells more strategy cards and writes more columns to cover these

games.

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>
> Yes, Trump's interest in improving their vp inventory is certainly a
> positive development, but sofar is no threat to unseat MS supremacy
> resulting in any defections of vp regulars.
>
>
> --- In vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com, "vpFREE" <vpFREE@C...> wrote:
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> > John Grochowski column:
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> > http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/articles/16954.html
> >
> > <a href="http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/articles/16954.html">
> > http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/articles/16954.html</a>
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