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Casino Player Magazine; Feature Article; Errors; Corrections; Competing Authors

Whenever I see a transpositional mistake or an editor's correction in
Casino Player Magazine, I often wonder whether the mistakes were made
by the author (or proofreader) or during the editing and page
formatting process . I think three errors in a thousand word or less
article is unacceptable. Do you think three mistakes are unacceptable?

I had the pleasure of reading Bob Dancer's Video Poker Spotlight
article this month about getting the best return by factoring in
Bonus Reward Credits to the ER and getting the host to pick up the
balance of trip expenses after all of the Reward Credits have been
exhausted (at Harrah's Properties).

Comparisons were made between 9/6 JoB vs. NSU Dueces Wild. The
comparisons took into account the ER of the game plus the value of
the base Reward Credits plus the value of the Bonus Reward Credits.
The cash value of the Reward Credits was determined by number of
points required to purchase either a $250.00 or $500.00 Debit/ Gift
Card. The examples given were based on the Reward Credit system used
at the Harrah's Properties (which discontinued the RFB system of
comping).

It was a wonderful, elegant article where all of the values and
mathematical computations were written out clearly (in Parenthesis).

Unfortunately, the reading experience became less pleasurable early
on when the paragraph following the 1st set of EV computations stated
conclusions that were exactly the opposite of what the numbers
proved. The author (or editor) had transposed "9/6 Job" and "NSU
Deuces" in the sentence stating which game had the higher EV (all
other things being equal: coin in/ number of hands per hour, etc.).

The second mistake was more a matter of semantics than an error: Mr.
Dancer referred to the Debit or Gift Card (purchased with Reward
Credits)as a "Credit Card." In the Northeastern United States, we are
very particular about referring to a card that is a cash equivalent
as a "Debit Card" or a "check card" because many merchants will give
us cash back on a transaction when using those cards. (Also, we are
not charged interest or cash advance fees with a "debit" card as we
would be with a "credit" card.

Perhaps "gift card" is the best term because it alerts the user to
special restrictions that apply to such cards. The value of the card
does not accrue interest (like an interest checking account) but
after a year may carry a service charge for an unused balance. Also,
when a "gift card" is lost, it is like losing cash. (I don't believe
you can stop payment on it or have a replacement issued.)

The third mistake was a matter of syntax: incorrect verb conjugation.
The word "pay" was used instead of "paying". The sentence did not
make sense unless you changed the word from "pay" to "paying".

All the other articles in the latest issue of Casino Player had a
brief biography of the author and his webpage address at the end of
the article: Henry Tamburin; Kevin Blackwood; Nestor Basil. However,
this month, no mention of Bob Dancer's Books or Website or a 1-800
number. Instead, there was a half-page article for the Peppermill
Casino. Why is Mr. Dancer not receiving the same "free advertising"
in his byline as the other authors? Do you think he left it out
intentionally pending the release of his new software strategy-
trainer product? Perhaps it is the author's responsibility to keep
the article's word count down to save room for his bio.

William E.

I am so glad that you brought this up, auditor1966.

Yes, three mistakes is unacceptable. ONE mistake is unacceptable.

But, it is not just Mr. Dancer's column that may contain errors. I find
spelling and grammatical errors in EVERY issue of Casino Player
Magazine. It annoys the hell out of me to pay money for something
that is supposed to be professional and then receive something as
sophomoric as Casino Player Magazine has become.

A case in point is a recent article written by a college student (who
is also related to the editor.) The article was supposed to be about
how to have a trip to Downtown Las Vegas on small budget. The
article was completely useless. It served no entertainment or
informational value. The author stated that she and her travelling
companion(s) went to bed early each night. Huh? Young adults
sitting in a cheap hotel room - not partying downstairs? Clearly,
if they had done *something* each evening, it would have added
cost to their trip, and it would no longer be an article about doing
Downtown cheaply. It was just stupid.

I have subscribed to Casino Player Magazine for many years.
Over time, it has become obvious that there is very little of interest
left for them to write about that they have not already written.
Therefore, the articles have become repetitive and boring.

It is not acceptable for any professional publication (such as a
magazine) to have spelling and grammatical errors - regardless
of who is responsible for the errors (the author, proofreader, or
editor). Period.

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On 10/2/06, auditor1966 <auditor1966@yahoo.com> wrote:

Whenever I see a transpositional mistake or an editor's correction in
Casino Player Magazine, I often wonder whether the mistakes were made
by the author (or proofreader) or during the editing and page
formatting process . I think three errors in a thousand word or less
article is unacceptable. Do you think three mistakes are unacceptable?

I had the pleasure of reading Bob Dancer's Video Poker Spotlight
article this month about getting the best return by factoring in
Bonus Reward Credits to the ER and getting the host to pick up the
balance of trip expenses after all of the Reward Credits have been
exhausted (at Harrah's Properties).

Comparisons were made between 9/6 JoB vs. NSU Dueces Wild. The
comparisons took into account the ER of the game plus the value of
the base Reward Credits plus the value of the Bonus Reward Credits.
The cash value of the Reward Credits was determined by number of
points required to purchase either a $250.00 or $500.00 Debit/ Gift
Card. The examples given were based on the Reward Credit system used
at the Harrah's Properties (which discontinued the RFB system of
comping).

It was a wonderful, elegant article where all of the values and
mathematical computations were written out clearly (in Parenthesis).

Unfortunately, the reading experience became less pleasurable early
on when the paragraph following the 1st set of EV computations stated
conclusions that were exactly the opposite of what the numbers
proved. The author (or editor) had transposed "9/6 Job" and "NSU
Deuces" in the sentence stating which game had the higher EV (all
other things being equal: coin in/ number of hands per hour, etc.).

The second mistake was more a matter of semantics than an error: Mr.
Dancer referred to the Debit or Gift Card (purchased with Reward
Credits)as a "Credit Card." In the Northeastern United States, we are
very particular about referring to a card that is a cash equivalent
as a "Debit Card" or a "check card" because many merchants will give
us cash back on a transaction when using those cards. (Also, we are
not charged interest or cash advance fees with a "debit" card as we
would be with a "credit" card.

Perhaps "gift card" is the best term because it alerts the user to
special restrictions that apply to such cards. The value of the card
does not accrue interest (like an interest checking account) but
after a year may carry a service charge for an unused balance. Also,
when a "gift card" is lost, it is like losing cash. (I don't believe
you can stop payment on it or have a replacement issued.)

The third mistake was a matter of syntax: incorrect verb conjugation.
The word "pay" was used instead of "paying". The sentence did not
make sense unless you changed the word from "pay" to "paying".

All the other articles in the latest issue of Casino Player had a
brief biography of the author and his webpage address at the end of
the article: Henry Tamburin; Kevin Blackwood; Nestor Basil. However,
this month, no mention of Bob Dancer's Books or Website or a 1-800
number. Instead, there was a half-page article for the Peppermill
Casino. Why is Mr. Dancer not receiving the same "free advertising"
in his byline as the other authors? Do you think he left it out
intentionally pending the release of his new software strategy-
trainer product? Perhaps it is the author's responsibility to keep
the article's word count down to save room for his bio.

William E.

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I while back I got really tired of the factual errors in every issue
of CP and SS and eventually was commissioned to write articles for
them. They did not publish most of the articles they bought and I
suspect that part of the reason they decided not to publish the
others was my criticism of the new editor for all the typographical
and factual errors I found.

In addition, one of their major writers is Frank Legato. Now I've
enjoyed his material over the years but in doing research on virtual
reels I needed to look up the original patent. According to Legato
(as recently as the current issue of SS) the inventor was Inge
Telnaus in 1984 who assigned the patent to IGT. Unfortunately, only
Legato has ever heard of this guy. If you Google the name, you only
find articles written by Legato. If you go to the US Patent Office
site there is no such inventor. Instead, it takes seconds to find the
actual patent, issued to 3 inventors and assigned to Bally
Manufacturing. It was filed in 1986 and issued in late 1987. Never
having spoken to Legato, I gave the information to the editor and
suggested he pass it along. Shortly afterward they told me they
weren't going to publish more of my articles and tried to keep from
paying for them.

The biggest mistake they constantly make is asserting that the RNG
picks a single number that represents all the reels or all the cards.
Idiocy! Then they publish foolishness like in the current SS where
they will say that "the computer will cycle through all the numbers
in the program every few seconds or less" followed by "Hundreds of
numbers are generated every second." Let's see.... Take a 3-reel
machine with only 100 virtual stops per reel gives 100 * 100 * 100
combinations or 1 million possibilities. Assuming that "hundreds" can
mean 999 and "every few seconds" means 10 seconds then the machine
can cycle through 9,999 possibilities every few seconds. This is what
.. 5th grade math? (I refer you to my article in the Sept 2005 SS to
see how they really work if you don't already know).

Then sometimes the same author contradicts his or herself over time.
No offense, Bob but you used to believe that the IGT machines dealt
10 cards at a time. Not long ago you found out that the Game Kings
deal 5 and draw the rest when the draw button is pressed. Yet you
still have written that someone could see what the result would have
been if they'd held different cards. Your editor should have picked that up.

I could go on, but my personal feeling is that between their factual
errors, typos and articles that, to my mind, cover topics that are
more fluff than substance I am pleased to no longer be associated
with them. In full disclosure, my Casino Player subscription ran out
a while ago and my SS one will, soon. I will not be renewing.

On the other hand, I enjoyed both for many years and know that there
are people who still do. If you do, I encourage you to continue
reading them. However, even though most articles are factually
correct you have no way of determining which are not.

Regards,

B

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At 05:38 PM 10/2/2006, you wrote:

I am so glad that you brought this up, auditor1966.

Yes, three mistakes is unacceptable. ONE mistake is unacceptable.

But, it is not just Mr. Dancer's column that may contain errors. I find
spelling and grammatical errors in EVERY issue of Casino Player
Magazine. It annoys the hell out of me to pay money for something
that is supposed to be professional and then receive something as
sophomoric as Casino Player Magazine has become.

A case in point is a recent article written by a college student (who
is also related to the editor.) The article was supposed to be about
how to have a trip to Downtown Las Vegas on small budget. The
article was completely useless. It served no entertainment or
informational value. The author stated that she and her travelling
companion(s) went to bed early each night. Huh? Young adults
sitting in a cheap hotel room - not partying downstairs? Clearly,
if they had done *something* each evening, it would have added
cost to their trip, and it would no longer be an article about doing
Downtown cheaply. It was just stupid.

I have subscribed to Casino Player Magazine for many years.
Over time, it has become obvious that there is very little of interest
left for them to write about that they have not already written.
Therefore, the articles have become repetitive and boring.

It is not acceptable for any professional publication (such as a
magazine) to have spelling and grammatical errors - regardless
of who is responsible for the errors (the author, proofreader, or
editor). Period.

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Hi Bill,

I've subscribed to CP & SS since the first issues were published. I
still have the "newsprint" copy of the first issue of CP, picked up
at The Taj, in AC.

I still subscribe to these mags because they provide a teeny scratch
to my gambling itch, between Nevada trips. However, I totally agree
with your post regarding, misprints, misspellings, inaccuracies,
contradictions, and, worst of all (to me) a rehash of old boring
junk. Outside of Dancer's columns, I doubt that I have learned much
from either periodical, during the last 5 years. They definitely
cater to a much less knowledgable group than those who belong to
this list.

I get much more good information from the vpFREE sites than from
both CP & SS together!
~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:

....... On the other hand, I enjoyed both for many years and know
that there are people who still do. If you do, I encourage you to
continue reading them. However, even though most articles are
factually correct you have no way of determining which are not.
Regards,
B

Anyone else noticed how the magazine has "hawked" Caesars in Vegas the last 3 issues and the duplication of the same Bob Dancer article two months in a row. At times, I get the feeling that they are really just trying to fill pages. The back of the magazine, the slot payoff section, is useless.

More and more, it's becoming "People, Vegas"

CK

Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@gmail.com> wrote: I am so glad that you brought this up, auditor1966.

Yes, three mistakes is unacceptable. ONE mistake is unacceptable.

But, it is not just Mr. Dancer's column that may contain errors. I find
spelling and grammatical errors in EVERY issue of Casino Player
Magazine. It annoys the hell out of me to pay money for something
that is supposed to be professional and then receive something as
sophomoric as Casino Player Magazine has become.

A case in point is a recent article written by a college student (who
is also related to the editor.) The article was supposed to be about
how to have a trip to Downtown Las Vegas on small budget. The
article was completely useless. It served no entertainment or
informational value. The author stated that she and her travelling
companion(s) went to bed early each night. Huh? Young adults
sitting in a cheap hotel room - not partying downstairs? Clearly,
if they had done *something* each evening, it would have added
cost to their trip, and it would no longer be an article about doing
Downtown cheaply. It was just stupid.

I have subscribed to Casino Player Magazine for many years.
Over time, it has become obvious that there is very little of interest
left for them to write about that they have not already written.
Therefore, the articles have become repetitive and boring.

It is not acceptable for any professional publication (such as a
magazine) to have spelling and grammatical errors - regardless
of who is responsible for the errors (the author, proofreader, or
editor). Period.

···

On 10/2/06, auditor1966 <auditor1966@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Whenever I see a transpositional mistake or an editor's correction in
> Casino Player Magazine, I often wonder whether the mistakes were made
> by the author (or proofreader) or during the editing and page
> formatting process . I think three errors in a thousand word or less
> article is unacceptable. Do you think three mistakes are unacceptable?
>
> I had the pleasure of reading Bob Dancer's Video Poker Spotlight
> article this month about getting the best return by factoring in
> Bonus Reward Credits to the ER and getting the host to pick up the
> balance of trip expenses after all of the Reward Credits have been
> exhausted (at Harrah's Properties).
>
> Comparisons were made between 9/6 JoB vs. NSU Dueces Wild. The
> comparisons took into account the ER of the game plus the value of
> the base Reward Credits plus the value of the Bonus Reward Credits.
> The cash value of the Reward Credits was determined by number of
> points required to purchase either a $250.00 or $500.00 Debit/ Gift
> Card. The examples given were based on the Reward Credit system used
> at the Harrah's Properties (which discontinued the RFB system of
> comping).
>
> It was a wonderful, elegant article where all of the values and
> mathematical computations were written out clearly (in Parenthesis).
>
> Unfortunately, the reading experience became less pleasurable early
> on when the paragraph following the 1st set of EV computations stated
> conclusions that were exactly the opposite of what the numbers
> proved. The author (or editor) had transposed "9/6 Job" and "NSU
> Deuces" in the sentence stating which game had the higher EV (all
> other things being equal: coin in/ number of hands per hour, etc.).
>
> The second mistake was more a matter of semantics than an error: Mr.
> Dancer referred to the Debit or Gift Card (purchased with Reward
> Credits)as a "Credit Card." In the Northeastern United States, we are
> very particular about referring to a card that is a cash equivalent
> as a "Debit Card" or a "check card" because many merchants will give
> us cash back on a transaction when using those cards. (Also, we are
> not charged interest or cash advance fees with a "debit" card as we
> would be with a "credit" card.
>
> Perhaps "gift card" is the best term because it alerts the user to
> special restrictions that apply to such cards. The value of the card
> does not accrue interest (like an interest checking account) but
> after a year may carry a service charge for an unused balance. Also,
> when a "gift card" is lost, it is like losing cash. (I don't believe
> you can stop payment on it or have a replacement issued.)
>
> The third mistake was a matter of syntax: incorrect verb conjugation.
> The word "pay" was used instead of "paying". The sentence did not
> make sense unless you changed the word from "pay" to "paying".
>
> All the other articles in the latest issue of Casino Player had a
> brief biography of the author and his webpage address at the end of
> the article: Henry Tamburin; Kevin Blackwood; Nestor Basil. However,
> this month, no mention of Bob Dancer's Books or Website or a 1-800
> number. Instead, there was a half-page article for the Peppermill
> Casino. Why is Mr. Dancer not receiving the same "free advertising"
> in his byline as the other authors? Do you think he left it out
> intentionally pending the release of his new software strategy-
> trainer product? Perhaps it is the author's responsibility to keep
> the article's word count down to save room for his bio.
>
> William E.

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Chet,

Please explain what you meant by:

The back of the magazine, the slot payoff section, is useless.

Useless in what sense? And to whom, VP Players? (I know that the posted
Paytables are what the VP players go by!)

Auditor1966

The back of the magazine, the slot payoff section, is useless.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, chet Klyn <chetkl@...> wrote:

A better question is, "How is the slot payoff section, in the back of the
magazine, useful?"

I have no idea.

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On 10/5/06, auditor1966 <auditor1966@yahoo.com> wrote:

Chet,

Please explain what you meant by:

The back of the magazine, the slot payoff section, is useless.

Useless in what sense? And to whom, VP Players? (I know that the posted
Paytables are what the VP players go by!)

Auditor1966

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, chet Klyn <chetkl@...> wrote:
>
The back of the magazine, the slot payoff section, is useless.

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