How many times would you have to play thru casino credit before you could take it to the next place and not anger the casino.
Casino Credit Compliance
I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
I paid a partial marker, but was "flagged" for not paying the remainder after due date. I just forgot about the rest owed. It took couple days for them to review and re-instate me. Depends on casino, some are more lenient than others.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
I did not make myself clear. I had gotten the impression that in addition to settling up they wanted to see that money churned a few times thru their games. You could take their 10K walk across the street play there and then come back to the first casino and settle. You would have paid the marker and given them no action.
I am sure if I made a 10K bet, lost and then settled they would not complain.
Assuming you always pay your marker, how many times would you have to play thru it for them not to feel like you are using them as a check cashing facility?
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
What they are looking for is not only repayment but losses that are close to your credit limit.
What will happen for you is that they will start cutting your credit limit and say "come back and we will raise your credit limit temporarily when you have losses and need another marker".
The question is why don't you just get a credit line at the casino that you want to play at?
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: cdgnpc@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:42:01 -0700
Subject: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit ComplianceI did not make myself clear. I had gotten the impression that in addition to settling up they wanted to see that money churned a few times thru their games. You could take their 10K walk across the street play there and then come back to the first casino and settle. You would have paid the marker and given them no action.
I am sure if I made a 10K bet, lost and then settled they would not complain.Assuming you always pay your marker, how many times would you have to play thru it for them not to feel like you are using them as a check cashing facility?
I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
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Two issues really. One is that my line is at CZR and I jump around to the next casino when I get smoked out but that play gets kept at CZR. Second issue is if I have some $ in my pocket and I take a walk I may play at a second place.
But I think your answer is closer to what I was trying to ask. I guess a second question would be if a bankroll of $1000 is appropriate for a certain amount of .25 JoB play would the casino agree based on the play and not the win or loss.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
What they are looking for is not only repayment but losses that are close to your credit limit.
What will happen for you is that they will start cutting your credit limit and say "come back and we will raise your credit limit temporarily when you have losses and need another marker".
The question is why don't you just get a credit line at the casino that you want to play at?
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> From: cdgnpc@...
> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:42:01 -0700
> Subject: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
>
> I did not make myself clear. I had gotten the impression that in addition to settling up they wanted to see that money churned a few times thru their games. You could take their 10K walk across the street play there and then come back to the first casino and settle. You would have paid the marker and given them no action.
> I am sure if I made a 10K bet, lost and then settled they would not complain.
>
> Assuming you always pay your marker, how many times would you have to play thru it for them not to feel like you are using them as a check cashing facility?
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com , < vpfree@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
>
> I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
>
>
>
> I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
>
>
>
> To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
>
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Do you get more/better comps if you establish credit in a casino (at least when you first get credit established)?
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From: kelso 1600 <kelso1600@hotmail.com>
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpfree@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
What they are looking for is not only repayment but losses that are close to your credit limit.
What will happen for you is that they will start cutting your credit limit and say "come back and we will raise your credit limit temporarily when you have losses and need another marker".
The question is why don't you just get a credit line at the casino that you want to play at?
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: cdgnpc@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:42:01 -0700
Subject: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit ComplianceI did not make myself clear. I had gotten the impression that in addition to settling up they wanted to see that money churned a few times thru their games. You could take their 10K walk across the street play there and then come back to the first casino and settle. You would have paid the marker and given them no action.
I am sure if I made a 10K bet, lost and then settled they would not complain.Assuming you always pay your marker, how many times would you have to play thru it for them not to feel like you are using them as a check cashing facility?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
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Not to my knowledge. This line of thought may have been true ages ago before casinos had formalized tracking.
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: andyk711@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:56:18 -0700
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit ComplianceDo you get more/better comps if you establish credit in a casino (at least when you first get credit established)?
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To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpfree@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit ComplianceWhat they are looking for is not only repayment but losses that are close to your credit limit.
What will happen for you is that they will start cutting your credit limit and say "come back and we will raise your credit limit temporarily when you have losses and need another marker".
The question is why don't you just get a credit line at the casino that you want to play at?
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> From: cdgnpc@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:42:01 -0700
> Subject: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
>
> I did not make myself clear. I had gotten the impression that in addition to settling up they wanted to see that money churned a few times thru their games. You could take their 10K walk across the street play there and then come back to the first casino and settle. You would have paid the marker and given them no action.
> I am sure if I made a 10K bet, lost and then settled they would not complain.
>
> Assuming you always pay your marker, how many times would you have to play thru it for them not to feel like you are using them as a check cashing facility?
>
>
>
> I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
>
>
>
> I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
>
>
>
> To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
>
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From: kelso 1600 <kelso1600@hotmail.com>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Not sure exactly what you are asking here but a casino is looking for repayment and then losses that equal or come close to the amount of markers taken.
If you consistently take a marker for $10000 and only lose $1000 you do run the risk of being flagged and having a conversation with the credit manager and/or your line being reduced (perhaps temporarily until you have losses equal to your new credit limit) to more accurately reflect the play and losses that you are giving them.
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: cdgnpc@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 17:33:54 -0700
Subject: RE: RE: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance Two issues really. One is that my line is at CZR and I jump around to the next casino when I get smoked out but that play gets kept at CZR. Second issue is if I have some $ in my pocket and I take a walk I may play at a second place.
But I think your answer is closer to what I was trying to ask. I guess a second question would be if a bankroll of $1000 is appropriate for a certain amount of .25 JoB play would the casino agree based on the play and not the win or loss.What they are looking for is not only repayment but losses that are close to your credit limit.
What will happen for you is that they will start cutting your credit limit and say "come back and we will raise your credit limit temporarily when you have losses and need another marker".
The question is why don't you just get a credit line at the casino that you want to play at?
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> From: cdgnpc@...
> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:42:01 -0700
> Subject: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
>
> I did not make myself clear. I had gotten the impression that in addition to settling up they wanted to see that money churned a few times thru their games. You could take their 10K walk across the street play there and then come back to the first casino and settle. You would have paid the marker and given them no action.
> I am sure if I made a 10K bet, lost and then settled they would not complain.
>
> Assuming you always pay your marker, how many times would you have to play thru it for them not to feel like you are using them as a check cashing facility?
>
>
>
> I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
>
>
>
> I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
>
>
>
> To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
>
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com , < vpfree@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
a k asked:
Do you get more/better comps if you establish credit in a casino (at least when you first get credit established)?
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Sometimes. Within the past few years Harrah's New Orleans ran a promotion where only players with a line of credit were invited.
So, yes, at least occasionally there are extra benefits to having a line of credit. I have them at many casinos and find them very useful. For many people, obtaining a line of credit isn't a smart move because when they "get going" in a casino, they'll go through whatever money is available. If you are a borderline problem gambler, a line of credit can be a disaster.
Each gambler needs to make this determination for his/her own self whether a line of credit provides more potential benefits or more potential harm.
Bob
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Not in my experience, and I have lines of credit in a fair number of casinos. Comps are based on 3 things, your history with the establishment, your play, and / or your losses, depending on casino policy.
Regards
A.P.
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From: a k <andyk711@yahoo.com>
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:56:18 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
Do you get more/better comps if you establish credit in a casino (at least when you first get credit established)?
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From: kelso 1600 <mailto:kelso1600%40hotmail.com>
To: "mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:vpfree%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
What they are looking for is not only repayment but losses that are close to your credit limit.
What will happen for you is that they will start cutting your credit limit and say "come back and we will raise your credit limit temporarily when you have losses and need another marker".
The question is why don't you just get a credit line at the casino that you want to play at?
To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
From: mailto:cdgnpc%40aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:42:01 -0700
Subject: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit ComplianceI did not make myself clear. I had gotten the impression that in addition to settling up they wanted to see that money churned a few times thru their games. You could take their 10K walk across the street play there and then come back to the first casino and settle. You would have paid the marker and given them no action.
I am sure if I made a 10K bet, lost and then settled they would not complain.Assuming you always pay your marker, how many times would you have to play thru it for them not to feel like you are using them as a check cashing facility?
--- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, <mailto:vpfree%40yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
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And, most importantly, comps/mailers are based on what you look like, the closer you look to a degenerate gambler/tweaker the better, and also they look at your age, sex, and ethnicity, especially ethnicity.
Grosjean displays the best "casino look" for a male caucasian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRt377iIN4E
Munchkin on disguise: http://www.richardmunchkin.com/2013/05/disguise.html
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Not in my experience, and I have lines of credit in a fair number of casinos. Comps are based on 3 things, your history with the establishment, your play, and / or your losses, depending on casino policy.
Regards
A.P.
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From: a k < andyk711@... >
To: " vpFREE@yahoogroups.com " < vpFREE@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:56:18 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
Do you get more/better comps if you establish credit in a casino (at least when you first get credit established)?
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From: kelso 1600 <mailto:kelso1600%40hotmail.com>
To: "mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:vpfree%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
What they are looking for is not only repayment but losses that are close to your credit limit.
What will happen for you is that they will start cutting your credit limit and say "come back and we will raise your credit limit temporarily when you have losses and need another marker".
The question is why don't you just get a credit line at the casino that you want to play at?
> To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
> From: mailto:cdgnpc%40aol.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:42:01 -0700
> Subject: [vpFREE] RE: RE: Casino Credit Compliance
>
> I did not make myself clear. I had gotten the impression that in addition to settling up they wanted to see that money churned a few times thru their games. You could take their 10K walk across the street play there and then come back to the first casino and settle. You would have paid the marker and given them no action.
> I am sure if I made a 10K bet, lost and then settled they would not complain.
>
> Assuming you always pay your marker, how many times would you have to play thru it for them not to feel like you are using them as a check cashing facility?
>
>
> --- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, <mailto:vpfree%40yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know about "angering" a casino, but failure to repay an appropriate portion of a marker before leaving the property when you don't have recorded losses that equal or exceed the marker (which is what you seem to suggest) can raise eyebrows next time you go to draw a marker.
>
>
>
> I encountered this a couple of years ago at Harrah's LV, where I loss approximately 40% of my marker and then proceeded to lose most of the rest at another CZR property.
>
>
>
> To my surprise, when I returned to Harrah's LV after about 8 mo and attempted to draw another marker, I found that my account was flagged and I had to speak to a manager to get the hold released, promising I'd repay any unused marker portion in the future.
>
> ------------------------------------
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