Do they hand-pay you for your 'Card of the Day' wins? Do they pay you
for natural 4 of a kind with wild? If so, do they pay you for both the
5 of a kind and the natural 4 of a kind? Is this 'Card of the Day'
process consistent in LV? Is it club specific?
Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf Software
Wolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on the
market
http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
I'm sorry, I meant to explain that 'Card of the Day' was defined to me
as a special payoff for a natural 4 of a kind, regardless of whether
you were playing a natural or wild game.
Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf Software
Wolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on the
market
http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
Do they hand-pay you for your 'Card of the Day' wins? Do they pay you
for natural 4 of a kind with wild? If so, do they pay you for both
the
5 of a kind and the natural 4 of a kind? Is this 'Card of the Day'
process consistent in LV? Is it club specific?Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf SoftwareWolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on
the
Do they hand-pay you for your 'Card of the Day' wins?
In every case I've seen, when you get the quad, you have to turn on
the service light and have them hand pay you.
Do they pay you
for natural 4 of a kind with wild? If so, do they pay you for both the
5 of a kind and the natural 4 of a kind?
They used to do this at MSS, but I doubt all casinos would.
Is this 'Card of the Day'
process consistent in LV? Is it club specific?
It definitely seems to be club to club.
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:26 PM, wolfvidpok <wolfvidpok@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do they hand-pay you for your 'Card of the Day' wins?
In every case I've seen, when you get the quad, you have to turn on
the service light and have them hand pay you.> Do they pay you
> for natural 4 of a kind with wild? If so, do they pay you for
both the
> 5 of a kind and the natural 4 of a kind?
They used to do this at MSS, but I doubt all casinos would.
> Is this 'Card of the Day'
> process consistent in LV? Is it club specific?It definitely seems to be club to club.
This has been my experience as well. In my case the casino paid for
any natural 4K, even on a wild card game.
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "King Fish" <vpkingfish@...> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:26 PM, wolfvidpok <wolfvidpok@...> wrote:
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wolfvidpok" <wolfvidpok@...>
wrote:
I'm sorry, I meant to explain that 'Card of the Day' was defined to
me
as a special payoff for a natural 4 of a kind, regardless of
whether
you were playing a natural or wild game.
Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf SoftwareWolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on
the
market
http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com>
> Do they hand-pay you for your 'Card of the Day' wins? Do they pay
you
> for natural 4 of a kind with wild? If so, do they pay you for
both
the
> 5 of a kind and the natural 4 of a kind? Is this 'Card of the
Day'
> process consistent in LV? Is it club specific?
>
> Best regards,
> Jim Wolf
> James Wolf Software
>
> Wolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software
on
the
> market
> http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
>
Every place I have played a wild card game on a natural four-of-a-
kind promotion I got payed whether it was just a natural four-of-a-
kind or if it was a five-of-a-kind with a natural four-of-a-kind in
it. The rule was: 4 naturals in the screen. For example, playing
FPDW and making 44442. I made a five-of-a-kind but got handpayed for
the four naturals in the screen. Good luck.
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wolfvidpok" <wolfvidpok@> wrote:
MSS still does the scratch card thing, which is very cool.
My question is pretty well answered (and thank you), but what I was
specifically referring to was a club (casino) paying a predetirmened
amount, for example, for 4 of a kind natural 6s, or 4 of a kind
natural 8s.
There are a couple points of significance when determining the
return. First, is whether they will pay this if it occurs in a 5 of a
kind - and it seems they will, but that it could be club dependent.
Second, if it occurs in either a wild or natural game, 4 of a kind or
5 of a kind, if you are paid twice (once by the machine, once by the
attendant). The answer to that also seems to be club dependent.
All these options make it very difficult to program in a game, and
also for the user to input the necessary information, but that is
probably the casino's intent.
Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf Software
Wolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on
the market
http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...>
wrote:
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wolfvidpok" <wolfvidpok@>
wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, I meant to explain that 'Card of the Day' was defined
to
me
> as a special payoff for a natural 4 of a kind, regardless of
whether
> you were playing a natural or wild game.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim Wolf
> James Wolf Software
>
> Wolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software
on
the
> market
> http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wolfvidpok" <wolfvidpok@>
wrote:
> >
> > Do they hand-pay you for your 'Card of the Day' wins? Do they
pay
you
> > for natural 4 of a kind with wild? If so, do they pay you for
both
> the
> > 5 of a kind and the natural 4 of a kind? Is this 'Card of the
Day'
> > process consistent in LV? Is it club specific?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jim Wolf
> > James Wolf Software
> >
> > Wolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training
software
on
> the
> > market
> > http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
> >
>
Every place I have played a wild card game on a natural four-of-a-
kind promotion I got payed whether it was just a natural four-of-a-
kind or if it was a five-of-a-kind with a natural four-of-a-kind in
it. The rule was: 4 naturals in the screen. For example, playing
FPDW and making 44442. I made a five-of-a-kind but got handpayed
for
the four naturals in the screen. Good luck.
I cannot remember ever seeing, or hearing about, a COD bonus that was
paid by the machine. This doesn't mean they don't exist, but I'm
batting .000 for them.
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:50 PM, wolfvidpok <wolfvidpok@yahoo.com> wrote:
Second, if it occurs in either a wild or natural game, 4 of a kind or
5 of a kind, if you are paid twice (once by the machine, once by the
attendant). The answer to that also seems to be club dependent.
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wolfvidpok" <wolfvidpok@...>
wrote:
MSS still does the scratch card thing, which is very cool.
My question is pretty well answered (and thank you), but what I was
specifically referring to was a club (casino) paying a
predetirmened
amount, for example, for 4 of a kind natural 6s, or 4 of a kind
natural 8s.There are a couple points of significance when determining the
return. First, is whether they will pay this if it occurs in a 5 of
a
kind - and it seems they will, but that it could be club dependent.
Second, if it occurs in either a wild or natural game, 4 of a kind
or
5 of a kind, if you are paid twice (once by the machine, once by
the
attendant). The answer to that also seems to be club dependent.
All these options make it very difficult to program in a game, and
also for the user to input the necessary information, but that is
probably the casino's intent.Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf SoftwareWolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on
the market
http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
The best example I can use is the Reno Hilton several years ago.
They had an ongoing "Card of the Day" promotion and they had FPDW.
The Card changed everyday. It would be four 6's today, four Queens
tomorrow, etc. It paid $20.
So if I was playing FPDW on a day when the COD was Four Kings this is
what would happen when I hit Four Kings:
1. The machine would pay me for the Four Kings. (which is just 5
for 1 at FPDW)
2. I would have to stop playing and get the attention of an
attendant.
3. They would verify that I had Four Kings, write out a voucher with
my slot card number on it, have me sign it, then they would
personally hand me a twenty-dollar bill. They would also verify that
I played the hand off.
If I made Five Kings with only one deuce in the hand I got paid same
as above.
This is how it has worked every place I ever worked a COD promotion.
I've never had the machine itself pay the COD. But then it has been
quite awhile since I worked a COD.
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...>
wrote:
The best example I can use is the Reno Hilton several years ago.
They had an ongoing "Card of the Day" promotion and they had FPDW.
The Card changed everyday. It would be four 6's today, four Queens
tomorrow, etc. It paid $20.
This is where I had my first COD experience. It worked exactly as
Mickey stated. I was often playing OEJs or FPDW so wild cards were
involved quite often.
Dick
BTW, when the Reno Hilton first started their COD promotin it payed
whatever the amount of the quad payed. If the quad payed $62.50 then
you got handapayed $62.50. They got lots of action when the COD was
Aces or Small Quads. They got hammered, of course. So they cut the
amount and limited the COD to fives through Kings.
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@>
wrote:
> The best example I can use is the Reno Hilton several years ago.
> They had an ongoing "Card of the Day" promotion and they had FPDW.
> The Card changed everyday. It would be four 6's today, four Queens
> tomorrow, etc. It paid $20.This is where I had my first COD experience. It worked exactly as
Mickey stated. I was often playing OEJs or FPDW so wild cards were
involved quite often.Dick
What's this? A bunch of grown APer's arguing about a stupid card-of-
the-day promotion! Isn't that typical....needing the comfy blanket of
a COD in order to justify too much gambling. And you guys wonder why
I expose these pathetic weaknesses time and again, while casino
managers all over town drool at the thought of you folks sitting at
their machines all day chasing the extras instead of the money. What
a GREAT country!
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@>
> wrote:
> > The best example I can use is the Reno Hilton several years
ago.
> > They had an ongoing "Card of the Day" promotion and they had
FPDW.
> > The Card changed everyday. It would be four 6's today, four
Queens
> > tomorrow, etc. It paid $20.
>
> This is where I had my first COD experience. It worked exactly as
> Mickey stated. I was often playing OEJs or FPDW so wild cards
were
> involved quite often.
>
> Dick
>
BTW, when the Reno Hilton first started their COD promotin it payed
whatever the amount of the quad payed. If the quad payed $62.50
then
you got handapayed $62.50. They got lots of action when the COD
was
Aces or Small Quads. They got hammered, of course. So they cut
the
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:
amount and limited the COD to fives through Kings.
Dick,
Don't even mention OEJ. It would be enough work as it is. If people
need OEJ and card of the day, I will make you do the analysis 
Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf Software
Wolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on the
market
http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@>
wrote:
> The best example I can use is the Reno Hilton several years ago.
> They had an ongoing "Card of the Day" promotion and they had FPDW.
> The Card changed everyday. It would be four 6's today, four Queens
> tomorrow, etc. It paid $20.This is where I had my first COD experience. It worked exactly as
Mickey stated. I was often playing OEJs or FPDW so wild cards were
involved quite often.Dick
Rob,
I am just trying to expose a possible edge, and I simply need to know
how the COD currently exists in LV.
You and I have never had problems before, and we both have common
friends, and with the greatest respect, I would like to keep it that
way.
Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf Software
Wolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on
the market
http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:
What's this? A bunch of grown APer's arguing about a stupid card-of-
the-day promotion! Isn't that typical....needing the comfy blanket
of
a COD in order to justify too much gambling. And you guys wonder
why
I expose these pathetic weaknesses time and again, while casino
managers all over town drool at the thought of you folks sitting at
their machines all day chasing the extras instead of the money.
What
a GREAT country!
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@>
wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@>
> > wrote:
> > > The best example I can use is the Reno Hilton several years
ago.
> > > They had an ongoing "Card of the Day" promotion and they had
FPDW.
> > > The Card changed everyday. It would be four 6's today, four
Queens
> > > tomorrow, etc. It paid $20.
> >
> > This is where I had my first COD experience. It worked exactly
as
> > Mickey stated. I was often playing OEJs or FPDW so wild cards
were
> > involved quite often.
> >
> > Dick
> >
> BTW, when the Reno Hilton first started their COD promotin it
payed
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:
> whatever the amount of the quad payed. If the quad payed $62.50
then
> you got handapayed $62.50. They got lots of action when the COD
was
> Aces or Small Quads. They got hammered, of course. So they cut
the
> amount and limited the COD to fives through Kings.
>
No problem Jim. If you've had time to read thru some of the posts
here, you's see I throw slaps in the direction of 2 or 3 "special"
people.
I don't ever purposly play for card-of-the-day promos, but the only
place I've seen where the machine pays you for it was at the
Stratosphere on dollars, and they changed the COD on the machine as
required.
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wolfvidpok" <wolfvidpok@...>
wrote:
Rob,
I am just trying to expose a possible edge, and I simply need to
know
how the COD currently exists in LV.
You and I have never had problems before, and we both have common
friends, and with the greatest respect, I would like to keep it
that
way.
Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf SoftwareWolf Video Poker - Simply the most complete VP training software on
the market
http://www.WolfVideoPoker.com--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@> wrote:
>
> What's this? A bunch of grown APer's arguing about a stupid card-
of-
> the-day promotion! Isn't that typical....needing the comfy
blanket
of
> a COD in order to justify too much gambling. And you guys wonder
why
> I expose these pathetic weaknesses time and again, while casino
> managers all over town drool at the thought of you folks sitting
at
> their machines all day chasing the extras instead of the money.
What
> a GREAT country!
>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm"
<mickeycrimm@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > The best example I can use is the Reno Hilton several years
> ago.
> > > > They had an ongoing "Card of the Day" promotion and they
had
> FPDW.
> > > > The Card changed everyday. It would be four 6's today,
four
> Queens
> > > > tomorrow, etc. It paid $20.
> > >
> > > This is where I had my first COD experience. It worked
exactly
as
> > > Mickey stated. I was often playing OEJs or FPDW so wild cards
> were
> > > involved quite often.
> > >
> > > Dick
> > >
> > BTW, when the Reno Hilton first started their COD promotin it
payed
> > whatever the amount of the quad payed. If the quad payed
$62.50
> then
> > you got handapayed $62.50. They got lots of action when the
COD
> was
> > Aces or Small Quads. They got hammered, of course. So they
cut
> the
> > amount and limited the COD to fives through Kings.
> >
>
The Reno Hilton was the only time I ever had this opportunity. The
machine was called "Player's Choice" and had up to 22 games available
through a set of menus. It was probably ahead of its' time as IGT came
along later with their MG machines. In addition, the machine had a
touch screen (again before IGT). It was more fun to play than any
machine I have played before or since.
Dick
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wolfvidpok" <wolfvidpok@...> wrote:
Dick,
Don't even mention OEJ. It would be enough work as it is. If people
need OEJ and card of the day, I will make you do the analysis
Jim, if you have any questions about day in and day out video poker
plays feel free to email me.