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Caesars Inventory Update

In a message dated 5/20/2007 12:12:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
lfcmja@aol.com writes:

Comp totals are based upon base credits + bonus credits. Although no
longer earning bonus, you are still getting comp credit for base
points earned. HET room offers are generally based upon action average
of your last three trips.
Comp values for 9/6 JB will be strictly base credits, no bonus. You will
receive 1 base point for each $10 of VP. Run thru $10,000 in VP play and get
$10 in comps. Run thru a million to become 7* and get a whopping $1,000.
Pathetic is an understatement when combined with their sorry cashback.
Caesars is no longer a viable option for educated high-end players.

CB( in HET case its always bounceback) is based upon coin-in + game
played +denom so that should still be in effect although at what rate
I don't know.
My last cashback (before the no bonus credits) was .007% but it wasn't all
on the 9/6 JB. I will advise when I get my next cashback amount which was on
the 9/6 JB.

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Why are so many people jumping all over themselves to worry about
Harrah's properties and ADT and all of this nonesense. Bellagio,
Mirage, TI, MGM and I think now Luxor have 9/6 with .33 free play
given in real time not bounceback cash at .125 (Harrah's).
Historically, MGM's Holiday Gift Shoppe is worth another .11.
Harrah's does not like VP players, they do not like good BJ players
either - have you seen the new BJ layouts in the pit from the
Pussycat Dolls into where the Celine show is? double on 10 and 11
only, no DAS, hit a soft 17 - this is the worst BJ game ever offered
on planet earth - but they must know what they are doing because
they have all of you hooked to Total Rewards like Pavlov's dog - how
about forgetting about them? Wynn has 9/6 with .22 free play back -
so you have Wynn, Bellagio, Mirage, MGM - why do you need Harrah's
now? Even the Venetian just put in some single line $5 9/6. Wynn has
9/6 in dollars last time I looked. Why do you need Harrah's again?

I know TR has some limited advantages - I am Seven Stars and the
benefits are few - I won't make 7 stars again this year - so what?
they crushed the gamblings odds - SCREW THEM and SCREW their ADT - I
have had trouble getting into Caesars even with 7 stars because
sometimes by ADT play is low from hit and run, but obviously I gave
them the play over 365 days to get 7 Stars (I also play tables) -
ADT means they don't treat you like a person - SCREW THEM.

In a message dated 5/20/2007 12:12:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
lfcmja@... writes:

Comp totals are based upon base credits + bonus credits. Although

no

longer earning bonus, you are still getting comp credit for base
points earned. HET room offers are generally based upon action

average

of your last three trips.
Comp values for 9/6 JB will be strictly base credits, no bonus.

You will

receive 1 base point for each $10 of VP. Run thru $10,000 in VP

play and get

$10 in comps. Run thru a million to become 7* and get a whopping

$1,000.

Pathetic is an understatement when combined with their sorry

cashback.

Caesars is no longer a viable option for educated high-end

players.

CB( in HET case its always bounceback) is based upon coin-in +

game

played +denom so that should still be in effect although at what

rate

I don't know.
My last cashback (before the no bonus credits) was .007% but it

wasn't all

on the 9/6 JB. I will advise when I get my next cashback amount

which was on

the 9/6 JB.

************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vp1040@... wrote:

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Exactly.... Harrah's has ruined gambling for players.

Cheers
.
.

Why are so many people jumping all over themselves to worry about
Harrah's properties and ADT and all of this nonesense. Bellagio,
Mirage, TI, MGM and I think now Luxor have 9/6 with .33 free play
given in real time not bounceback cash at .125 (Harrah's).
Historically, MGM's Holiday Gift Shoppe is worth another .11.
Harrah's does not like VP players, they do not like good BJ

players

either - have you seen the new BJ layouts in the pit from the
Pussycat Dolls into where the Celine show is? double on 10 and 11
only, no DAS, hit a soft 17 - this is the worst BJ game ever

offered

on planet earth - but they must know what they are doing because
they have all of you hooked to Total Rewards like Pavlov's dog -

how

about forgetting about them? Wynn has 9/6 with .22 free play back -

so you have Wynn, Bellagio, Mirage, MGM - why do you need Harrah's
now? Even the Venetian just put in some single line $5 9/6. Wynn

has

9/6 in dollars last time I looked. Why do you need Harrah's again?

I know TR has some limited advantages - I am Seven Stars and the
benefits are few - I won't make 7 stars again this year - so what?
they crushed the gamblings odds - SCREW THEM and SCREW their ADT -

I

have had trouble getting into Caesars even with 7 stars because
sometimes by ADT play is low from hit and run, but obviously I

gave

them the play over 365 days to get 7 Stars (I also play tables) -
ADT means they don't treat you like a person - SCREW THEM.

>
> In a message dated 5/20/2007 12:12:13 P.M. Central Daylight

Time,

> lfcmja@ writes:
>
> Comp totals are based upon base credits + bonus credits.

Although

no
> longer earning bonus, you are still getting comp credit for

base

> points earned. HET room offers are generally based upon action
average
> of your last three trips.
> Comp values for 9/6 JB will be strictly base credits, no bonus.
You will
> receive 1 base point for each $10 of VP. Run thru $10,000 in

VP

play and get
> $10 in comps. Run thru a million to become 7* and get a

whopping

$1,000.
> Pathetic is an understatement when combined with their sorry
cashback.
> Caesars is no longer a viable option for educated high-end
players.
>
>
>
> CB( in HET case its always bounceback) is based upon coin-in +
game
> played +denom so that should still be in effect although at what
rate
> I don't know.
> My last cashback (before the no bonus credits) was .007% but it
wasn't all
> on the 9/6 JB. I will advise when I get my next cashback

amount

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vp1040@ wrote:
which was on
> the 9/6 JB.
>
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
>
>
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>

I'm with you on that. I've got a couple hundred in my comp account.
I'm going to take a birthday trip to CP in July and a trip to AC in
late July or August. I'm going to clean out the comp account and give
them very little play, particularly in Vegas. I'll probably give them
a reasonable amount of play in AC, unless they do the same to the
inventory there. I'll drink them blind in the Diamond Lounges, see
Second City one last time, and call it good.

For me anyway, ADT is simply short for "Adios Tom". The sad part is
that they have always comped me very well for the amount of play I've
given them. All I ask is playable video poker (9/6 JOB is fine) at the
fifty-cent or dollar level. I don't mind putting in the hours to get
the coin-in, but I'm not going to play 8/5 JOB or play at $25 per
spin.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@...> wrote:

Why are so many people jumping all over themselves to worry about
Harrah's properties and ADT and all of this nonesense.

The value of the mailed offers is what hooked this fish and trained
this dog....and we're talking more than just a couple tenths of a point.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@...> wrote:

Why are so many people jumping all over themselves to worry about
Harrah's properties and ADT and all of this nonesense.
- but they must know what they are doing because
they have all of you hooked to Total Rewards like Pavlov's dog -