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CA Slot Machines (to mspevack)

No. The house can determine how much cheating the machine does. An
electronic "second" will due just as much damage to your bankroll as a
human dealt "second".

[Original Message]
From: Bill Velek <billvelek@alltel.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 1/13/2004 6:23:14 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: CA Slot Machines (to mspevack)

lwluiki wrote:

> For dishonest blackjack games (cards marked in the backs using
> sopfisticate laser technology, delivered by the card manufacturer
> sealed), please refer to Stanford Wong's _Current Blackjack News_.
> This case actaully went through the court system in the San Diego
> area, but due to tribal sovereignty, no damage was awarded.

Did the Plaintiff's lawyer include the card manufacturer as a defendant?

> See also Howard Stern's post (#25096) about non-random blackjack
> machines.

I looked at that post; it says: "I do not know the manufacturers
involved for VP but if you
should see a SEGA Robo Dealer for blackjack you should run as this game

has

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selectable hold percentage as a casino option."

What is a "selectable hold percentage" in blackjack (the word
"percentage" is throwing me here)? If this means that the casino can
merely select the value at which the machine (dealer) must hold, then I
don't see that as being dishonest if that information is revealed before
the game is played.

> Non-random slot machines, Wall Street Journal, 2 or 3 years ago.

snip

I have _never_ considered "slot" machines to be random, in the first
place. You can have two identical machines next to one another, and one
can be set at a different win rate than the other (and from what I've
heard ... they usually are placed with a good machine right next to a
lousy one). Obviously, identical machines with different pay-rates can
not be random ... at least not both of them; if it is legal to have one
of them non-random, then it would be legal (and probably likely) for
_both_ to be NON-random. Among "slot" machines, I don't find this to be
surprising or dishonest.

> Also the repeated failures of the Australian slots manufacturer
> Aristocrat to gain Nevada Gaming Control approval due to Aristocrat's
> non-random machines in CA as well as in other areas.

No comment. Don't know anything about that.

> "Class Two" gaming machines made to look and play like regular slots
> but based on a bingo/lottery system and are not subject to
> the "2,000 machines per tribe" limit.

Can you please explain this a little bit?

Thanks.

Bill Velek

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