Hi All,
I ain't no math whiz (English weren't my major neither) so I'd like
to ask a question to anyone here more proficient than I in this
subject. How high does the progressive meter for a royal on a 7/5
bonus poker machine have to be in order for it to become a positive
play? TIA.
Christine
Do you have Winpoker? You can play with the paytables and the
analyze feature to find this out.
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Hi All,
I ain't no math whiz (English weren't my major neither) so I'd like
to ask a question to anyone here more proficient than I in this
subject. How high does the progressive meter for a royal on a 7/5
bonus poker machine have to be in order for it to become a positive
play? TIA.
Breaks even at $1881. 101% at $2289
102% at 2691
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "cma141963" <cma141963@m...> wrote:
Hi All,
I ain't no math whiz (English weren't my major neither) so I'd like
to ask a question to anyone here more proficient than I in this
subject. How high does the progressive meter for a royal on a 7/5
bonus poker machine have to be in order for it to become a positive
play? TIA.Do you have Winpoker? You can play with the paytables and the
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Doesn't each 1000 coins added to a progressive equal .5% in payback?
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Breaks even at $1881. 101% at $2289
102% at 2691>> Hi All,
>> I ain't no math whiz (English weren't my major neither) so I'd
like
>> to ask a question to anyone here more proficient than I in this
>> subject. How high does the progressive meter for a royal on a
7/5
>> bonus poker machine have to be in order for it to become a
positive
>> play? TIA.
>
>Do you have Winpoker? You can play with the paytables and the
>analyze feature to find this out.
>
>
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:20:31 -0000, you wrote:
>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "cma141963" <cma141963@m...> wrote:
>
>
As a general rule, $200 (in quarters) adds 0.5%
The numbers below are EXACT.
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 21:56:44 -0000, you wrote:
Doesn't each 1000 coins added to a progressive equal .5% in payback?
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wrote:Breaks even at $1881. 101% at $2289
102% at 2691On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:20:31 -0000, you wrote:
>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "cma141963" <cma141963@m...> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I ain't no math whiz (English weren't my major neither) so I'dlike
>> to ask a question to anyone here more proficient than I in this
>> subject. How high does the progressive meter for a royal on a7/5
>> bonus poker machine have to be in order for it to become a
positive
>> play? TIA.
>
>Do you have Winpoker? You can play with the paytables and the
>analyze feature to find this out.
>
>
>vpFREE Links:
>http://www.lvcm.com/tomesims/VP/Links.html
>
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Doesn't each 1000 coins added to a progressive equal .5% in payback?
Yes and no.
This is a rule of thumb that works reasonably well, when the jackpot
is near 8,000 coins. So, in that sense the answer to your question is
yes.
Now let me explain where the rule comes from and why it really is not
so good for larger RF payouts. The rule was created on a simplifying
assumption that the RF cycle is exactly 40,000 hands. On a dollar game,
this simply means that when you put in $200,000, your expected number of
RF's is 1. The extra 1000 coins is 0.5% of that investment.
Of course, no machine has a cycle of exactly 40,000 hands. The cycle
decreases as the RF grows. Most games have cycles that are closer to
32,000 hands (yet another approximation <g>) when the RF gets above
10,000 coins. This varies a bit from game to game. However, DB, JOB,
Bonus Poker, and DW all have many changes that cause a sharp decrease
in the RF cycle.
The same kind of thinking gives a better general rule for this. Now
we assume a cycle of 32,000 hands. This is $16,000 coin in. Now we
see that adding 800 coins to the jackpot will produce the jump of
0.5%.
On a quarter game, this means $200 adds 0.5%, but ONLY when the RF
is above 10,000 coins. This is not perfect, but it is all you need
for analyzing a play while you are scouting.
Personally, I have always used the approximation you give, but I think
I will add this refinement to my way of thinking.
QZ