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Bob Dancer's LVA 10 DEC 2013

Bob Dancer's LVA 10 DEC 2013

Moral Failings

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2013/1210.cfm

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Everyone has their own “lines”.
I, for instance, wouldn’t have taken the banana and coffee…so, to shoot it back to you…

If the banana and coffee were not owned by the hotel, but from a small one-owner shop or deli…would you have taken it without compensation the business?

~cam

Theft is theft. Whether it's from a sole proprietorship or a faceless
corporation, it's still a crime.

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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:13 PM, <camwellcam@yahoo.com> wrote:

If the banana and coffee were not owned by the hotel, but from a small
one-owner shop or deli..would you have taken it without compensation the
business?

The way I look at it, the tax system treats gamblers very unfairly, and the casinos are very deceptive and dishonest in their marketing to gamblers. I won’t comment about taxes, but I’ll just say that I haven’t bought soap or toilet paper in years. I don’t feel bad. The casinos in Atlantic City say that my rooms are comped, but they add extra fees that are not taxes remitted to the government and try to hide the fact that these are fees that they keep. When I stay at Bally’s I pay $13 for the “comped” room but the actual taxes are only $5. If you look at the bill, the way they word it is so misleading that you wouldn’t know what charges are for what. I had to do a lot of research online to find out what the actual taxes were. Whatever I take from the room does not come close to covering the $8 per day they are pocketing from me for a room that they are claiming is free.

Looking at your situation another way, if the hotel cared about who ate that breakfast, they would have had some sort of system to prevent or at least discourage people who didn’t pay the extra $10 from eating. Did they at least have a big sign saying that you have to pay? In a way, they were trying to cheat you by asking for an extra $10 when they didn’t care who ate their breakfast, especially when a meal like that probably only cost them a dollar or two at most.

Bob’s column, in reply to some moralizing posts re his admission to “scamming” (my word, not his) a free breakfast buffet, reinforces what I enjoy and respect most about Bob … he simply lays out his views in a relatively balanced fashion, like it or not.

I’m not above taking exception to someone else’s behavior … but I trust that I generally reserve that for actions with greater significance/consequence. On the whole, I imagine most here engage in some rationalized activity that might draw raised eyebrows from others.

Bob’s greatest “crime”, as I see it, is simply engaging his audience perhaps a little too familiarly at times.

I monitor my own conduct by keeping the abbreviated caution “FBC” in the forefront of my mind. (“familiarity breeds contempt”).

“Familiarity” is conducive to generating the empathy between individuals that leads to constructive social bonding and exchanges. I take pains to pepper my posts with personal data and incidents to that end.

However, familiarity is also a means by which to compare how various situations and experiences are handled by another vs. one’s self; where there are differences, there’s room for contempt.

Contempt is typical when the gut reaction is, “I’d never do that! – this person really has poor judgment” (substitute your own stronger words). Contempt has it’s place. But in social circumstances, more often than not it’s a barrier to an optimal outcome and there’s little redeeming about it.

Each person is entitled to handle contempt as they see fit. I try to keep mine in check where possible – the occasions where it’s worked to my benefit are far outnumbered by those where it’s been a detriment.

my question is what kind of room is he geting for only $60

I too appreciate the candor…at least you’re willing to air your own “dirty laundry”. But the example of hotel room toiletries did throw me off a bit. Since they are consumables, not priced separately, I’ve always operated under the belief that they are included with the room…different from options that are priced a la carte (such as…hmmmm…breakfast.)

Still, if I saw Bill Gates swiping 50 bars of soap from the housekeeping cart, I would think it rather cheesy, if not illegal.

It all evens out in the end; how about people like me that have stayed at hotels many times with continental breakfast and fail to eat.

With that reasoning, I have never collected welfare, so someone else can feel free to steal it.

Noooo… I already paid for the breakfast so if I don’t eat it, then the hotel will just pocket the difference, So why shouldn’t someone else enjoy it.