Yates wrote: Scamming casino? You gotta be kidding. Revel has cheated customers who lost playing by their rules by not allowing them the rebate. It's one thing telling them they can't participate any longer, but an entirely different matter cheating the players out of what's rightfully theirs. I hope Revel gets hit with such a large lawsuit they close down. They're miserable scum from my point of view.
First of all, it irritates me that RS is generally agreeing with me on this subject. As difficult as it is for me to believe, he's actually correct this time.
That said, the players who have been complaining about how unfair the Revel is have been doing so only to the "players' press," meaning vpFREE, wizardofvegas, and certain other sites. This is like religious fanatics only talking to others who share the same core beliefs. People outside of their particular belief system think these people are crazy and should get a life. Which is how whining players appear to the general public.
Any player with hard evidence that Revel is not doing what they promised should go to mainstream press --- major newspapers and television stations --- in addition to contacting the NJ CCC. This simply hasn't happened. Doesn't it make you wonder why?
There have definitely been a few card pullers who have been run out of there. I suspect the casino has quite a bit of surveillance documentation on anyone they've eliminated for this. I'm sure it's within the rules that artificially manipulating your score in order to show more losses is reason to be removed from the promotion.
But a card-puller crying "foul!" and then conveniently omitting from his account exactly what he did to be kicked out is hardly evidence the casino is cheating. And as we see from the statement at the top from Yates' (among many others), many players are very prepared to believe these accounts. They don't know what the evidence is, but they are willing the believe the casino is run by a bunch of scheming cheats.
Only convincing wannabe advantage players that cheating is going on doesn't hurt the Revel at all. If you can convince mainstream gamblers the Revel is cheating (and these folks don't read vpFREE, wizardofvegas, etc. but they do read the Alantic City Press, New York Times, and listen to NBC news, etc.) then you've accomplished something. And this simply hasn't happened. Most likely because the promotion is being run far more on the up and up than players here think it has. firs
If I lived a lot closer, I would definitely play this promotion --- although I would first check with casino management to make sure i was welcome. I would read the rules carefully first. Playing the largest denomination slot machine I could find until I either hit big or lost $100,000 would give me a sizeable EV that is hard to get anywhere else these days.
Bob
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