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Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 10 APR 2012

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Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 10 APR 2012

"The Machines Being Shut Down is the Good News --- Part 1 of 2"

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2012/0410.cfm

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Great article, but all I got to say is "thanks pro's , for once again screwing us normal players ! " I love quick quads , but they slowed these down to unplayable speeds, as well as a lot of other machines at SP , including ultimate X !
best...Tom

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Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 10 APR 2012

"The Machines Being Shut Down is the Good News --- Part 1 of 2"

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2012/0410.cfm

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LOL, I'd hate to see SP slowed down..what would that even look like...the reels going S-L-O-W..haha

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:

Great article, but all I got to say is "thanks pro's , for once again
screwing us normal players ! " I love quick quads , but they slowed these
down to unplayable speeds, as well as a lot of other machines at SP ,
including ultimate X !
best...Tom

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Tomflush wrote:

      Great article, but all I got to say is "thanks pro's , for once again

screwing us normal players ! " I love quick quads , but they slowed these

down to unplayable speeds, as well as a lot of other machines at SP ,

including ultimate X !

best...Tom

It reminds me of an old George Carlin routine about other drivers. The ones who drove faster than you were "maniacs" and the ones who drove slower than you were "a**holes." I'd be curious about Tom's definition of "pro," "normal player," and "those without a clue." For most people, these definitions change as their skill level improves. Apparently part of the definition of "normal players" includes finding slowed-down machines unplayable! I guess that makes me decidedly non-normal as I certainly played Quick Quads this past Sunday (2x point day) for 8 hours. There's a huge difference in my mind between "I wish they were faster" and "unplayable." Personally I'd rather more casinos had great games slowed down than not have the games at all. Bob

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Great response Bob. I have never seen real normal players complain about machines being slow because they normally don't play fast enough for the machine speed to make a difference.

I have a question about something you said in your article though, here is the quote:

"My understanding is that except for emergency fixes, a machine had to have the same pay schedule for the entire gaming day --- which at the South Point is 3 a.m. to 3 a.m."

I have never heard this before, do you have any proof that this is the case? Maybe as a question for you radio show.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:

Tomflush wrote:

      Great article, but all I got to say is "thanks pro's , for once again

screwing us normal players ! " I love quick quads , but they slowed these

down to unplayable speeds, as well as a lot of other machines at SP ,

including ultimate X !

best...Tom

It reminds me of an old George Carlin routine about other drivers. The ones who drove faster than you were "maniacs" and the ones who drove slower than you were "a**holes." I'd be curious about Tom's definition of "pro," "normal player," and "those without a clue." For most people, these definitions change as their skill level improves. Apparently part of the definition of "normal players" includes finding slowed-down machines unplayable! I guess that makes me decidedly non-normal as I certainly played Quick Quads this past Sunday (2x point day) for 8 hours. There's a huge difference in my mind between "I wish they were faster" and "unplayable." Personally I'd rather more casinos had great games slowed down than not have the games at all. Bob

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Yeah , great excuse - great advise to the casino - slow down the machines to 200 hands an hour max...slow...slow...slow.
You are missing the point folks... these machines and many others at SP are now slow as hell, because of the pro/semi-pro players hogging these machines on double point day - so the casino reacts by limiting their pro player loses, everyday , 24x7 . Is there anybody else here that likes normal / fast machines ? This is cause and effect, any other excuse is BS ...just my 2 cents. Good news is the 8/5 bonus machines are normal speed - I quess. You can mark my words here, soon the 50 play 5C nsud machines are going to be slowed down to a crawl and/ or the turbo buttons removed.

best...Tom

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucy" <luckylucyano9@yahoo.com>
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Great response Bob. I have never seen real normal players complain about machines being slow because they normally don't play fast enough for the machine speed to make a difference.

I have a question about something you said in your article though, here is the quote:

"My understanding is that except for emergency fixes, a machine had to have the same pay schedule for the entire gaming day --- which at the South Point is 3 a.m. to 3 a.m."

I have never heard this before, do you have any proof that this is the case? Maybe as a question for you radio show.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:

Tomflush wrote:

      Great article, but all I got to say is "thanks pro's , for once again

screwing us normal players ! " I love quick quads , but they slowed these

down to unplayable speeds, as well as a lot of other machines at SP ,

including ultimate X !

best...Tom

It reminds me of an old George Carlin routine about other drivers. The ones who drove faster than you were "maniacs" and the ones who drove slower than you were "a**holes." I'd be curious about Tom's definition of "pro," "normal player," and "those without a clue." For most people, these definitions change as their skill level improves. Apparently part of the definition of "normal players" includes finding slowed-down machines unplayable! I guess that makes me decidedly non-normal as I certainly played Quick Quads this past Sunday (2x point day) for 8 hours. There's a huge difference in my mind between "I wish they were faster" and "unplayable." Personally I'd rather more casinos had great games slowed down than not have the games at all. Bob

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Lucy asked about something I wrote:

"My understanding is that except for emergency fixes, a machine had to have the same pay schedule for the entire gaming day --- which at the South Point is 3 a.m. to 3 a.m."

I have never heard this before, do you have any proof that this is the case? Maybe as a question for you radio show.

I have plenty of proof that their gaming day is 3 a.m. to 3 a.m. The most obvious proof is that if you're playing prior to 3 a.m., you daily score starts over again at 0 the first time your card is pulled on or after 3 a.m. Sorry. Couldn't resist. Insofar as a machine in Nevada (different jurisdictions have different rules) having the same pay schedule for an entire gaming day, I got that information from a longtime slot director. I have no knowledge of exactly where in the gaming code or anywhere else it actually says this. Bob

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Google is a wonderful thing.

The entire Nevada Revised Statutes and Regulations can be found online, for free. (Used to have to pay for a hard copy.)

Below is all I found, but it's late and I didn't try very hard. Could be the gaming paperwork required only has a "date of change" but no time.

TC

14.150 Conversions. A licensee other than a manufacturer who converts a gaming device from one approved game configuration to another approved game configuration shall maintain complete and accurate records of all such conversions._

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On Apr 11, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@hotmail.com> wrote:

Lucy asked:

"My understanding is that except for emergency fixes, a machine had to have the same pay schedule for the entire gaming day --- which at the South Point is 3 a.m. to 3 a.m."

I have no knowledge of exactly where in the gaming code or anywhere else it actually says this.