--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@y...>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm wondering, now that BD has "outed" his
own "advantage" progressive play at Sam's Town, what the results of
the revelations in his column will be?Will ST kill the play as being too juicy? Or, was the play already
dead, and therefore there was no harm in revealing details? Or,
perhaps, was the play not quite as advantagious asne might be lead
to believe?I guess I just don't understand the underlying reason for a pro of
the calibre of BD, to possibly kill one of his OWN good plays, by
naming names etc. Even though most vp players don't play at the
$5.00 level, and therefore would not take advantage of this play,
what about competition from other pros who do play at this level?If BD had written a general column about how he attacks
progressives, w/o giving up the machine and location, I could
certainly understand that he was just trying to educate his
readership. However, this very specific column would seem to me to
be just a tad more altruistic than that.If anyone on the board has an idea about this, I would certainly
appreciate it if they would share their thoughts.Thanks.
Babe
I am reasonably familiar with the bank to which Mr. Dancer's column
refers; it is located just to the right of main cage at Sams Town.
I have been tracking this on vpadv.com (prog = bp85/500#806); values,
since the first of the year:
Date/time observed RF $
2005-01-02 07:30:00 | 20400 |
2005-01-08 02:28:00 | 20600 |
2005-01-12 04:00:00 | 20805 |
2005-01-22 19:00:00 | 20100 |
2005-02-03 22:31:00 | 20500 |
2005-02-09 05:30:00 | 21500 |
Mr. Dancer's column clearly states that he would only play this--even
on 6x points days (= 0.6% cashback)--if the RF value were over
26000. His math, concerning the breakeven point, is substantially
accurate; break-even, on the game itself, is a little over $27000.
As others have pointed out, one would need a pretty good-sized
bankroll to play this game; in the area of 3-5 RF's = $60-100k. Even
so, it appears clear to me that Mr. Dancer's analysis is valid . .
For those of us with lesser bankrolls, there is another bp85
progressive, near Roxy's bar; this is also tracked (bp85/q#726) on
vpadv. Since first of year:
Date/time Avg RF Percent
2005-01-07 02:15:00 | 1700.00 | .7100 |
2005-01-08 02:15:00 | 1730.00 | .7800 |
2005-01-10 04:00:00 | 1859.00 | 1.0900 |
2005-01-12 04:00:00 | 1910.00 | 1.2200 |
2005-01-12 21:00:00 | 1950.00 | 1.3100 |
2005-01-14 07:35:00 | 2000.00 | 1.4400 |
2005-01-22 19:00:00 | 1700.00 | 0.7100 |
2005-02-03 22:31:00 | 1350.00 |-0.0600 |
2005-02-09 05:30:00 | 1400.00 | 0.0500 |
This is very similar to the $5 version; fact that each suit has its
own RF payoff is also to player's advantage.
Sams town also has a number of other progressives which are at times
worth playing; details are available at vpadv.com.