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Bob Dancer's CasinoGaming Column - 28 MAR 2006

Lots of Ties in Super NSU

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I wondered when Bob was going to write about this. I've been playing
15-11 for almost two years now-one Northern NV casino had it in
100-play and a couple in Reno have it in 3/5-play, alas with no bennies.

It's a fun game to play, and much more technical than NSUD.

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Lots of Ties in Super NSU

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Lots of Ties in Super NSU

Bob could have just lumped AJ9sWQ in with AT8sWJ and contrasted them
both at once with the double suited versions the way he did with just
AJ9sWQ. Omitting AT8sWJ implies that it's not a tie hand. There's a
misprint in the 3rd hand for which a tie doesn't affect the hand
distribution, also. I don't really mean to criticize, though, as this
article revealed some hands for which the royal draw beats the
straight flush draw that I wasn't aware of. Would this be the
complete list ("s" being one suit and "c" being a second suit) of
hands with one deuce for which a royal draw with an ace beats a
straight flush draw with one gap?

AJs97cW
ATs97cW
ATs86cW
AJ9sWT
AJ9sW8
AJ9sW7
AT8sW9
AT8sW7
AT8sW6

I think these programs should award the tie to the hand that has the
lowest fluctuation. In Kings or better Joker's Wild, for example,
they keep J9s with a joker over an ace with a joker, with which I
disagree.

Tom, my strategy chart, derived from Win Poker, shows you never hold the J9s with the Joker over the Ace, except when there is a 6 suited with the Ace. I'm not certain I'm correct, but it agrees with your concept.

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   In Kings or better Joker's Wild, for example,
  they keep J9s with a joker over an ace with a joker, with which I
  disagree.

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That's the hand that's a tie. I would rather hold the ace, since it
assures me of getting at least my money back. I assume that overall,
therefore, it is of lower fluctuation, but I'm too lazy to make sure.

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Tom, my strategy chart, derived from Win Poker, shows you never hold the J9s with the Joker over the Ace, except when there is a 6 suited with the Ace. I'm not certain I'm correct, but it agrees with your concept.
----- Original Message -----
  In Kings or better Joker's Wild, for example,
they keep J9s with a joker over an ace with a joker, with which I
disagree.

And where is the location of these NSUD 15/11 machines?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc"
<paladingamingllc@...> wrote:

> I wondered when Bob was going to write about this. I've been playing
15-11 for almost two years now-one Northern NV casino had it in
100-play and a couple in Reno have it in 3/5-play, alas with no

bennies.

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It's a fun game to play, and much more technical than NSUD.

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I'm not familiar with northern Nevada. Binion's had them for a while
and the Wynn still has some.

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And where is the location of these NSUD 15/11 machines?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc"
<paladingamingllc@...> wrote:

> I wondered when Bob was going to write about this. I've been playing
15-11 for almost two years now-one Northern NV casino had it in
100-play and a couple in Reno have it in 3/5-play, alas with no

bennies.

It's a fun game to play, and much more technical than NSUD.

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The 100-play is long, long gone. There's one at Grand Victoria
(Mandalay) in Elgin IL, 3-5-10 play, $1-$2-$5 denoms, but service is
very slow. Cb is .1 with some 2x coupons and drawings...you cobble it
together, it may be worth .3. The Clown may now be owned by The Lion,
but they'll always be The Clown to me. Speaking of The Clown, another
Clown property, Railroad Pass, had it for a while on their .25 Spin
Poker machines last year, and got clobbered playing it (.75 cb on
Thursdays)-lost $1500 or so like clockwork each play.

Out west, there's one which I reported in 2004 I think, at Tamarack
Jct., a bar owned by the Caranos (Eldorado) on S Virginia near Damonte
Ranch. Slot club is good only for comps at Tamarack, no mail to speak
of, no cb. Food looks good, though...They also have 99.98 OEJ, 10-6-40
DDB (99.96), 8-5 SAB (99.94) and the only 9-6 DDB 5 Aces (99.999) I've
encountered. Still, there's no such thing as a free lunch, I suppose.

As for Vegas, sounds like Bob is gearing up to teach it someplace, and
I doubt it's at the Wynn. I also don't see it at Coast, and he just
got divorced from Stations, Cannery and Rampart are slicin' and
dicin', Binions had it and dropped it after almost everyone in town
clobbered it...where could it be? :slight_smile:

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <thomasrrobertson@...> wrote:

I'm not familiar with northern Nevada. Binion's had them for a while
and the Wynn still has some.

>And where is the location of these NSUD 15/11 machines?

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