<<<<I play at the Palms on occassion, and the game I play baselines at
over 100%. Why would Bob Dancer play one less than that? >>>>>>
The highest denomination 100%+ game at Palms is only $10 per hand. I
believe Mr Dancer's game of choice is $5 NSUD Five Play where you can
play $125 per hand and earn 12.5X as many tickets.
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Glen Hardy <ghardy222@yahoo.com> writes:
Most likely it's not just for the car or the cash prizes he had won so
far from almost every drawing or every other drawing. When he starts
telling his friend/partner; "Watch this, my name should be called
next." and it does, it probably makes him feel very good! The
calculations on getting the 'advantage' on these promotions really
works for him! It would be nice if we can all afford to do that.
Hopefully (someday), Bob will have enough cars and cash and decide to
give the rest of us a better chance in winning at these promos.
(wishful thinking)...
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, johnfiske@j... wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2005 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Glen Hardy <ghardy222@y...> > writes:
<<<<I play at the Palms on occassion, and the game I play baselines at
over 100%. Why would Bob Dancer play one less than that? >>>>>>The highest denomination 100%+ game at Palms is only $10 per hand. I
believe Mr Dancer's game of choice is $5 NSUD Five Play where you can
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Winning a car is not a novelty for Bob. In late December of 2000, I asked him if he had got a Mercedes with his Grazie points. As I recall, he said "Three".
He also said that he had also earned a number of other cars in the holiday giveaways (this was back when he was really playing a lot at MGM), and I am pretty sure the total was either 5 or 8. Just can't remember - I think my mind just blanked it out 
As for why he played the promo with such a slim edge... I don't know, but I can guess*. He probably likes it there. As Paladin mentioned, even though he is strict about always playing at an advantage, he doesn't require a big advantage. Plus, Bob really does like his perks, and there just isn't a whole lot of 100%+ plays in high limit these days, especially in the nicer places in town.
*According to Paladin's figures (and he always seems to know what he's talking about), $2,000,000 * .06% = a $1,200 profit for 25 hrs of play comes to $48 an hour. For a $25 an hour game.
Skip
gilbert_616 wrote:
Most likely it's not just for the car or the cash prizes he had won so far from almost every drawing or every other drawing. When he starts telling his friend/partner; "Watch this, my name should be called next." and it does, it probably makes him feel very good! The calculations on getting the 'advantage' on these promotions really works for him! It would be nice if we can all afford to do that.
Hopefully (someday), Bob will have enough cars and cash and decide to give the rest of us a better chance in winning at these promos. (wishful thinking)...
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, johnfiske@j... wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2005 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Glen Hardy <ghardy222@y...> >>writes:
<<<<I play at the Palms on occassion, and the game I play baselines at
over 100%. Why would Bob Dancer play one less than that? >>>>>>The highest denomination 100%+ game at Palms is only $10 per hand. I
believe Mr Dancer's game of choice is $5 NSUD Five Play where you can
play $125 per hand and earn 12.5X as many tickets.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Winning a car is not a novelty for Bob. In late December of 2000,
I asked him
if he had got a Mercedes with his Grazie points. As I recall, he
It was a different ballgame in those days.
He also said that he had also earned a number of other cars in the
holiday
giveaways (this was back when he was really playing a lot at MGM),
and I am
pretty sure the total was either 5 or 8. Just can't remember - I
think my mind
just blanked it out
It really was a different ballgame in those days. Now, the MGM Mirage
properties are the quickest hook in the business. BTW, Bob was hardly
the only 7 figure bankroll built at MGM.
As for why he played the promo with such a slim edge... I don't
know, but I
can guess*. He probably likes it there. As Paladin mentioned, even
though he is
strict about always playing at an advantage, he doesn't require a
big advantage.
Plus, Bob really does like his perks, and there just isn't a whole
lot of 100%+
plays in high limit these days, especially in the nicer places in town.
Thanks for the love. I heard from a friend that he was playing $5
5-line outside, for four days, which works only because of the current
AX Gift cheque promo. If not for the promo, he'd have to play the $25
single line and take .125 free play, or $5 5-line and less tickets
(and probably minus EV).
There's only a few places in town where VP is playable and where's he
not on their payroll that will deal to him. I found out about this a
little too late, but one of the worst kept secrets in town was a
quarter 100-play machine on the Strip which had all the full pay games
on it (ranging from 99.54 to 99.94, use your imagination), good cash
back and good promos. It eventually got too crowded, although I still
think it was the new owners coming in and taking a look at the
inventory which got the play pulled (or maybe one of the maanger
started wondering why this quarter machine was generating so many tax
forms). The whole thing was weird, a couple of the locals who are
banging out quarter FP games at Fiesta knew about it, but only
out-of-towners were playing it.
*According to Paladin's figures (and he always seems to know what
he's talking
about), $2,000,000 * .06% = a $1,200 profit for 25 hrs of play comes
to $48 an
hour. For a $25 an hour game.
If he played 40 hours, it would even be less. The more equity he gets
in the drum, the more he is subject to the law of diminishing returns.
But as one world class AP I know likes to point out, "everyone usually
gets their EV through life".
I imagine there was some play on Shirley's card, too. If you want to
count the $1200 in bounceback this play will generate, then it's worth
over .1
I think the deal is that he really likes to play, and as long as he
can afford the flux and he has nothing better to do (certainly his EV
is higher teaching at Fiesta, why not?
In other news, I am looking at become a publishing whore soon as well.
Stay tuned.
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