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Bob Dancer (and hidden reasons for pleasant politics)

Jason-

In case it is not clear to anyone else, it is my company, Leading
Edge Design that developed Multi-Strike Poker (as well as Cash King
Checkers).

I follow this group and many other video poker and gaming resources.
I do this for information as a game developer as well as a Video
Poker Player and I learn things every day.

I try to contribute to this forum when I have something relevant to
add. When the discussion of Bob's book led to a statement that Bob
scored his big win by not following his own advice and playing over
his head I remembered the "Pot Shot" article that I had read and
mentioned it here. I then read several posts using my name in
defense of anti-Dancer views. I was pointed to the article and re-
read it to find that it states a great restrictive case for taking
pot shots which I thought was totally sound and something I can tell
you I've done myself.

I tried to briefly state the main points from the article, both to
make it clear that I don't side with the person using my name, and
also because I thought that what Bob wrote spoke very well to the
discussion. It is a topic worth discussing in this forum.

I am sorry that you chose to read into my motives rather than forming
your own conclusion based on the material I posted. This material
was directly from the article and laid out great guidelines for when
you should take a pot shot if ever. Do you think that the article
provided bad advice? I didn't and I would be happy to discuss that.

In my previous occupation I worked on different high profile
products. I read the enthusiast's newsgroups regularly but made the
conscious decision to never post. This was after watching too many
attcks and discussions like this one.

I had planned to lay lower in the VP groups, however Tom encouraged
me to provide more information so I decided to give it a try. I can
happily disappear again if it doesn't make sense for me to be here.

-Larry

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "fordscks <jason_c_vp@y...>"
<jason_c_vp@y...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Larry218 <larry@L...>" <larry@L...>
wrote:
> I re-read the article today and wanted to share my thoughts.
>
> The article is well written and informative and provides
guidelines for taking this very risky chance if you have the

stomach

for it and other circumstances fall into place.

<snipped other glowing comments on BD by Larry).

Larry,

From reading your posts, and given your knowledge of Multi-Strike
Poker ("MSP"), it's clear you have more to lose if you don't defend
BD or if you don't say nice things about DB. I raise this issue
because I have found out through reliable sources DB charges a fee
to write up a game for either "Strictly Slots" or other

publications

[this can be viewed many ways, i.e. DB needs to get paid for his
reputation and hard work OR it can be veiwed as extortion]. And
given BD's role in an upcoming article about MSP, it makes you a
reluctant bedfellow of BD. From a business perspective, I
understand with BD's clout he can trash any video poker game, and
therefore there exist a desire for sucking up.

I liked reading BD's writings when I started playing vp, and I give
BD a lot of credit for being a de facto national spokesperson for
promoting vp. However, the more I interacted with people

personally

···

knowledgeable about BD, the more I want to stay away from BD.

So Larry, when you write about BD, are you doing it because of the
fallout if you weren't in BD's camp? Thanks.

Regards,
-J (who really hates to kiss anyone's buttocks, but founded out the
hard way about the business and the small vp community)

Larry : I for one have found all of your posts to be informative and of great use.
I am sure most of the other posters and members of this group feel the same way.
Please don't stop posting because of a couple of negative comments.

Regards
A.P.

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"Jason wrote"

> ...
> So Larry, when you write about BD, are you doing it because of the
> fallout if you weren't in BD's camp? Thanks.

"Larry replied"

...
I had planned to lay lower in the VP groups, however Tom encouraged
me to provide more information so I decided to give it a try. I can
happily disappear again if it doesn't make sense for me to be here.

Sadly, this kind of thing seems to happen a lot on these forums.

Given your openly stated professional interest, we should expect
you to be somewhat self-serving, provided it is credible. I am
pretty cynical in nature, but I have not found anything you
wrote to be self-serving to the point of endangering credibility.
I have enjoyed your recent input and believe the vast majority
of others are in agreement with me on this. Please stick around
and don't worry too much about the occaisional wild hair. Of course,
if I tear into you, then that is another story.

  QZ

I can happily disappear again if it doesn't make sense for me to be here.

Nah. Stick around.