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Boarding Pass Rules at the Red Rock

#1

The back page of the Station Casinos Player Club brochure lists
30 "Boarding Pass Rules".

Rule number 26 reads as follows: "Boarding Pass point multiplier offers
and other Boarding Pass point adjustment offers will not be counted
towards the Boarding Pass Rewards Level Structure."

There are 4 reward levels ... Preferred, Gold, Platinum, and
President. So I think rule 26 is saying, for example, if you play on a
3x day, you still accrue points at the 1x level, in terms of the Reward
Level you are assigned. For example, if you have 200,000 points you
need 25,000 more to reach Platimum. But you won't get there faster by
playing on 3x days.

Is this the correct interpretation of rule 26?

#2

Yes, and it's a stations rule, not just Red Rock.

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On 10/31/06, brumar_lv <brumar_lv@yahoo.com> wrote:

Is this the correct interpretation of rule 26?

#3

Rule number 26 reads as follows: "Boarding Pass point multiplier

offers

and other Boarding Pass point adjustment offers will not be counted
towards the Boarding Pass Rewards Level Structure."

yeah i found that out the hard way myself over the summer. i had been
going to Red Rock on those 5x and 3x point days and finally got it up
to over 60,000 points within the 3 month time period. i do 90% of my
play at Suncoast so i was just trying to reach Platinum at Red Rock
and had never really played much at all at any Stations property.

anyways, i go to the club booth and they inform me that point
multipliers don't count towards your "base points." i guess that
would not have been so bad had someone informed me of this when i
first signed up for my card there. and i was never even given the
brochure you got either.

and since you can't get any cash back either, it makes me wonder what
good are the points anyways? can you redeem them in the restaurants
or gift shops? just curious what people do with their points.

oh, and when i did ask about the points and multipliers the boothling
just said it has "always been this way" yet she could not even show
it to me in writing. i guess we are all supposed to inherently know
Stations' policy even if we have only been in town a little over a
year and never really played at their properties before.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "brumar_lv" <brumar_lv@...> wrote:

#4

and since you can't get any cash back either, it makes me wonder what
good are the points anyways? can you redeem them in the restaurants
or gift shops? just curious what people do with their points.

I believe that around 600 points =$1.00,but I could be wrong so on your
boarding pass if you
have 60,000 points you have about $100 in Comp dollars that can be used in
the gift shop or
restraunts aside from any discretionary comps you may obtain,you also should
be receiving
some marketing offers for free rooms etc.

#5

and since you can't get any cash back either, it makes me wonder

what

good are the points anyways? can you redeem them in the restaurants
or gift shops? just curious what people do with their points.

I believe that around 600 points =$1.00,but I could be wrong so on

your

boarding pass if you
have 60,000 points you have about $100 in Comp dollars that can be

used in

the gift shop or
restraunts aside from any discretionary comps you may obtain,you

also should

be receiving
some marketing offers for free rooms etc.

The brochure explains the advantages of reaching a higher "Reward
Level". For example, President Level gets 75% off buffet prices
compared to 50% for Platimum Level ... meaning they reduce fewer
points at the buffet for Platimum Level players, plus President and
Platimum players get free invitations to shows/concerts. But the real
value is vaguely implied under the "Free Slot Play" and "Comps"
headings, where it says this is "based on play". I'm sure this is
the primary reason locals try to reach a high Reward Level, but the
brochure is not specific. Perhaps some of the heavy players at
Stations can explain what that means.

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#6

But the real
value is vaguely implied under the "Free Slot Play" and "Comps"
headings, where it says this is "based on play". I'm sure this is
the primary reason locals try to reach a high Reward Level, but the
brochure is not specific. Perhaps some of the heavy players at
Stations can explain what that means.

You can figure this out on your own quite easily. At the bottom of every
database page for all STN owned properties there is a chart that will tell
you how much bounceback free play you will receive for all of their
different levels. Then, armed with a calculator, divide the total monthly
bounceback by the amount of coin in for that level and you will have the
exact percentage that this will add to your play. A caution here, with STN
props., as their levels are determined by total base points,not coin in, if
all of your play is on 100%+ machines, your coin in required will be double
the figure that is on the chart. As a feeble example, let's take my play at
Fiesta Rancho. I play at the 75K per qtr. level, at the .25 denom, only
4700 KBJW or the FPDW progressive if it is over $1,133.00, which would makes
both games a 1% return. I will play the 3p-NSU progressive, which is only
1$ per point, but since they slowed the meters, I rarely see it at a level
that I consider worthwhile with respect to game return. At the 75K per qtr.
level, I get $20 Sun/Mon $10 Tue, $5 Thur, and mystery amount on Fri, which
is never less than $15, all told $50 per week or $200 / month. As I
mentioned, my 75K points are going to cost me $150K, or $50K / month, so
divide your $200 / month by 50,000 and you get a whopping .4% bounceback
return. There are much better deals out there, but old habits and routines
are hard for me to break. I'm working on it.
                                                        Nudge

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From: "brumar_lv" <brumar_lv@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Boarding Pass Rules at the Red Rock

#7

You can figure this out on your own quite easily. At the bottom of

every

database page for all STN owned properties there is a chart that

will tell

you how much bounceback free play you will receive for all of their
different levels. Then, armed with a calculator, divide the total

monthly

bounceback by the amount of coin in for that level and you will

have the

exact percentage that this will add to your play. A caution here,

with STN

props., as their levels are determined by total base points,not

coin in, if

all of your play is on 100%+ machines, your coin in required will

be double

the figure that is on the chart. As a feeble example, let's take

my play at

Fiesta Rancho. I play at the 75K per qtr. level, at the .25 denom,

only

4700 KBJW or the FPDW progressive if it is over $1,133.00, which

would makes

both games a 1% return. I will play the 3p-NSU progressive, which

is only

1$ per point, but since they slowed the meters, I rarely see it at

a level

that I consider worthwhile with respect to game return. At the 75K

per qtr.

level, I get $20 Sun/Mon $10 Tue, $5 Thur, and mystery amount on

Fri, which

is never less than $15, all told $50 per week or $200 / month. As I
mentioned, my 75K points are going to cost me $150K, or $50K /

month, so

divide your $200 / month by 50,000 and you get a whopping .4%

bounceback

return. There are much better deals out there, but old habits and

routines

are hard for me to break. I'm working on it.
                                                        Nudge

Thanks for the very clear explanation!

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