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Blue Chip-Michigan City

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3a. Re: Blue Chip-Michigan City
Date: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:50 am ((PST))

No, it was the same denomination-.25, changed right in front of my eyes. I may
stop there today just to see if it is the same.

I've never seen this happen myself, but if the machines are centrally controlled, which is certainly possible I suppose, then I see no reason why the casino couldn't program them to have different paytables according to whose player card is inserted! Scary, but just like the on-request full-pay that's been discussed, we may be finding on-insertion-of-your-players-card downgrades of paytables for players identified as "good" by their computers!!

Would that violate any gaming laws (either in IN, where this occurred - Michigan City is, I believe, in Indiana, or in any other states)? Seems like a machine open to the public should have the same pay scale for all members of the public.

On the other hand, it is certainly possible for a casino to change the min/max bets at a blackjack table for a specific player in Atlantic City; that's how they combat card counters there, since they can't bar players - so maybe this IS legal?

--BG

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#2

That is one major drawback of server-based gaming. Doing so (and at least one manufacturer has pushed their system as having that ability) would drive away a lot of business as no one would use their cards and then they wouldn't get any benefits.

It definitely would violate Nevada regs, NJ regs and, probably, every jurisdiction.

The good news is that with the downturn in the economy server-based gaming will be delayed, at the least.

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At 09:35 AM 12/14/2008, you wrote:

> 3a. Re: Blue Chip-Michigan City
> Date: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:50 am ((PST))
>
> No, it was the same denomination-.25, changed right in front of my eyes. I may
> stop there today just to see if it is the same.
>

I've never seen this happen myself, but if the machines are centrally controlled, which is certainly possible I suppose, then I see no reason why the casino couldn't program them to have different paytables according to whose player card is inserted! Scary, but just like the on-request full-pay that's been discussed, we may be finding on-insertion-of-your-players-card downgrades of paytables for players identified as "good" by their computers!!

Would that violate any gaming laws (either in IN, where this occurred - Michigan City is, I believe, in Indiana, or in any other states)? Seems like a machine open to the public should have the same pay scale for all members of the public.

On the other hand, it is certainly possible for a casino to change the min/max bets at a blackjack table for a specific player in Atlantic City; that's how they combat card counters there, since they can't bar players - so maybe this IS legal?

--BG

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#3

Bill Coleman wrote:

That is one major drawback of server-based gaming. Doing so (and at
least one manufacturer has pushed their system as having that
ability) would drive away a lot of business as no one would use
their cards and then they wouldn't get any benefits.

I have serious doubts that server-based gaming is at the root of
what's been described.

- H.