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Bet One Coin vs Max Bet on IGT machines: any difference on the dealt cards?

#1

Someone recently asked me this question and I am not too sure how to
answer it so, I need your help!

On the IGT vp machines, if you had pressed the Bet One Coin then Draw
and got a Fullhouse like "QQQ33", for example, would you have gotten
the same cards if you had pressed the Max Bet button instead?

I told the guy that they should have been the same but, he kept saying
"No, they are not".

Just curious if pressing the Max Bet button or pressing the Bet One
Coin button 5 times would also result to the same cards dealt?

Thanks for the info.

#2

You have to press "max coin" and "bet one" at the exact same millisecond to get the exact same hand dealt. Since the keys are in different places on the machine, and a persons arm mechanics and tactile forces work at angles differently , this is something that's extremely difficult to do!
So the practical answer is NO !

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would you have gotten
the same cards if you had pressed the Max Bet button instead?

#3

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@...> wrote:

Just curious if pressing the Max Bet button or pressing the Bet One
Coin button 5 times would also result to the same cards dealt?

Clearly from the previous the answer the answer to this is also NO,
however it should be noted that pressing bet one 5 times and one time
WILL result in the same hand.

Dick

#4

A very good point, Dick. I hope that the folks who perceive that
playing less coin results in better hands, take heed.
~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@> wrote:
Just curious if pressing the Max Bet button or pressing the Bet One
Coin button 5 times would also result to the same cards dealt?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mroejacks" <rgmustain@...> wrote:
Clearly from the previous the answer the answer to this is also NO,
however it should be noted that pressing bet one 5 times and one time
WILL result in the same hand.
Dick

#5

Let's all be thankful for those who play short coin.

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A very good point, Dick. I hope that the folks who perceive that
playing less coin results in better hands, take heed.
~Babe~

#6

Actually, IGT (to my knowledge) has never addressed this point.
However, based on my conversation with them I understand that the
hand is selected when the "deal" is activated. That means that either
the deal / draw button, the Max bet button or the last press of the
bet 1 (to activate all coins) activates the RNG.

If so, then the answer below is NOT correct, different hands will be generated.

Again, this is strictly academic and has no effect on the math.

B

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At 05:46 AM 9/23/2006, you wrote:

A very good point, Dick. I hope that the folks who perceive that
playing less coin results in better hands, take heed.
~Babe~

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@> wrote:
Just curious if pressing the Max Bet button or pressing the Bet One
Coin button 5 times would also result to the same cards dealt?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mroejacks" <rgmustain@...> wrote:
Clearly from the previous the answer the answer to this is also NO,
however it should be noted that pressing bet one 5 times and one time
WILL result in the same hand.
Dick

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#7

Now I'm really confused, Bill. I THOUGHT that the RNG was activated
when the FIRST coin (or max button) was hit. Now you are suggesting
that the RNG is activated only when the deal/draw button is hit.

Can anyone tell me, with authority, which premise is correct?

I realize that it doesn't affect the math......just color me curious.

Thanks,
~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:

Actually, IGT (to my knowledge) has never addressed this point.
However, based on my conversation with them I understand that the
hand is selected when the "deal" is activated. That means that
either the deal / draw button, the Max bet button or the last press
of the bet 1 (to activate all coins) activates the RNG.

If so, then the answer below is NOT correct, different hands will be
generated. Again, this is strictly academic and has no effect on the
math.
B

At 05:46 AM 9/23/2006, you wrote:

A very good point, Dick. I hope that the folks who perceive that
playing less coin results in better hands, take heed.
~Babe~

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@>
wrote:Just curious if pressing the Max Bet button or pressing the Bet
One Coin button 5 times would also result to the same cards dealt?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mroejacks" <rgmustain@> wrote:
Clearly from the previous the answer the answer to this is also NO,
however it should be noted that pressing bet one 5 times and one
time WILL result in the same hand.
Dick

#8

jackessiebabe

I realize that it doesn't affect the math......just color me curious.

Would that be "yellow" or "blue"?

- H.

#9

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...>
wrote:

I THOUGHT that the RNG was activated
when the FIRST coin (or max button) was hit. Now you are suggesting
that the RNG is activated only when the deal/draw button is hit.

Can anyone tell me, with authority, which premise is correct?

I realize that it doesn't affect the math......just color me curious.

My statement was based on comments from IGT PRIOR to the Game King
platform. We know they made changes at that time to run the RNG between
the original deal and draw. Making this kind of change seems compatible
with the other change so I would tend to believe Bill.

Dick

PS. Still lots of old machines out there so whatever answer given needs
to start with "it depends ...".

#10

Thanks to all your replies!
Based on Bill's reply, I guess that it would be safe to tell the
people asking me this question that, for example, pressing the Bet
One followed by the Draw button will result to a different set of
cards dealt than pressing the Bet One 2 times (for 2-coin play) or 3
times (for 3-coin play) or more followed by the Draw button.

Actually, IGT (to my knowledge) has never addressed this point.
However, based on my conversation with them I understand that the
hand is selected when the "deal" is activated. That means that

either

the deal / draw button, the Max bet button or the last press of

the

bet 1 (to activate all coins) activates the RNG.

If so, then the answer below is NOT correct, different hands will

be generated.

Again, this is strictly academic and has no effect on the math.

B

>A very good point, Dick. I hope that the folks who perceive that
>playing less coin results in better hands, take heed.
>~Babe~
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>Just curious if pressing the Max Bet button or pressing the Bet

One

>Coin button 5 times would also result to the same cards dealt?
>==============================================
>Clearly from the previous the answer the answer to this is also

NO,

>however it should be noted that pressing bet one 5 times and one

time

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:

At 05:46 AM 9/23/2006, you wrote:
>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@> wrote:
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mroejacks" <rgmustain@> wrote:
>WILL result in the same hand.
> Dick
>

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