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Best VP software?

#1

It is based on charts and does not do the calculations. Wong VP (More than
five years before your software!), VP Tutor, Dan Paymar's Optimum VP,
Winpoker 5 & 6 and Frugal VP all do the calculations and are 100% accurate.
The charts will give the wrong answer about 2% of the time in non-wild card
games and 4-5% of the time in deuce games. Also you cannot adjust
paytables. Many of the games he shows are low payback games that you should
avoid. Note that the indicated payback is wrong on many games (FPDW is
shown as 100.6% actually 100.76% - Note his chart for that game has you
hold all three deuce five of a kind which is wrong the 7/12 of the time
that the pair is 9s or lower. 10-8 Nevada Bonus is shown as 98.4% actually
98.77%. On the loose deuce game if you try to hold 22+two touching cards to
a SF it cannot find that play on its chart so it says your play is less
than .33 bets. Actually it is the better than 22 by almost 1/4 of a bet.)

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[Original Message]
From: Paul Bauer <metoyou500@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 10/31/2005 8:28:25 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Best VP software?

The Masque version I am using is the strategy Pro. Did
you say this is not accurate?

-Paul

--- Howard Stern <howard.w.stern@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I made a big error in my last reply. Lenny Frome is
> the late writer of VP
> fame. Eliot Frome is his son!
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> > [Original Message]
> > From: metoyou500 <metoyou500@yahoo.com>
> > To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 10/30/2005 6:28:05 PM
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Best VP software?
> >
> > Hi Group:
> >
> > I am new to the group and have been plying VP in
> AC for the past year.
> > I learned on the Masque software. I play 9/6 jacks
> which appears to be
> > the only full pay VP available in AC. Does anyone
> have an opinion of
> > this software? I have read some on Bob dancer's
> and the frugal
> > software, and I am wondering if it's that much
> more superior to the
> > Masque. I play 9/6 jacks only as it is the best %
> return in AC.
> >
> > -Paul
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#2

If you had to recommend a software which one would
you? I know pretty cold the 9/6 jacks strategy as was
tought to me by the Masque software. But you have
indicated that it may not be accurate for optimum
play. I typically play 9/6 jacks in Atlantic City as
it appears to be the only full pay version in AC and
the closest to 100% return. All the other games (such
as joker poker, deuces, etc.) are non- full pay
versions and therefore return less. I have learned
from reading Bob Dancer's book, to stay away from
them. I understand that LV has a great number of games
that are full pay versions. Therefore, when I visit LV
in the future, I would like to try some of these other
games, so a good software program especially with
strategy tables that can be printed out would be best.
I think the Frugal software allows for the tables to
be printed. Correct me if I am wrong.

-Paul

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--- Howard Stern <howard.w.stern@earthlink.net> wrote:

It is based on charts and does not do the
calculations. Wong VP (More than
five years before your software!), VP Tutor, Dan
Paymar's Optimum VP,
Winpoker 5 & 6 and Frugal VP all do the calculations
and are 100% accurate.
The charts will give the wrong answer about 2% of
the time in non-wild card
games and 4-5% of the time in deuce games. Also you
cannot adjust
paytables. Many of the games he shows are low
payback games that you should
avoid. Note that the indicated payback is wrong on
many games (FPDW is
shown as 100.6% actually 100.76% - Note his chart
for that game has you
hold all three deuce five of a kind which is wrong
the 7/12 of the time
that the pair is 9s or lower. 10-8 Nevada Bonus is
shown as 98.4% actually
98.77%. On the loose deuce game if you try to hold
22+two touching cards to
a SF it cannot find that play on its chart so it
says your play is less
than .33 bets. Actually it is the better than 22 by
almost 1/4 of a bet.)

> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Bauer <metoyou500@yahoo.com>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 10/31/2005 8:28:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Best VP software?
>
> The Masque version I am using is the strategy Pro.
Did
> you say this is not accurate?
>
> -Paul
>
> --- Howard Stern <howard.w.stern@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
> > I made a big error in my last reply. Lenny Frome
is
> > the late writer of VP
> > fame. Eliot Frome is his son!
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: metoyou500 <metoyou500@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: 10/30/2005 6:28:05 PM
> > > Subject: [vpFREE] Best VP software?
> > >
> > > Hi Group:
> > >
> > > I am new to the group and have been plying VP
in
> > AC for the past year.
> > > I learned on the Masque software. I play 9/6
jacks
> > which appears to be
> > > the only full pay VP available in AC. Does
anyone
> > have an opinion of
> > > this software? I have read some on Bob
dancer's
> > and the frugal
> > > software, and I am wondering if it's that much
> > more superior to the
> > > Masque. I play 9/6 jacks only as it is the
best %
> > return in AC.
> > >
> > > -Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > vpFREE Links:
> > http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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