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becoming local - should i fess up?

#1

i'm moving from northern nevada to southern nevada soon.

up in reno, there are some mostly-tourist properties where they give
locals better offers (like peppermill), and some where the tourist
offers seem better (like atlantis). atlantis might actually give
locals more total money, but it's divided up into like ten three-day
periods every quarter instead of one chunk every month or two. i only
play vp maybe once a week on average, and i don't expect to change
that, so i'll take (for example) $100/mo instead of 5*$30/mo any day.

what's the mix like for strip properties? should i admit to my host at
venetian that i'm a local now, or will doing that mess up my
(substantial) bounce offers? how about wynn, or harrah's or mgm
properties?

i plan to carry ID with both addresses for the foreseeable future, if
only for my reno visits. so i should be able to pretend to be a
visitor as long as the post office will forward my mail, if it's
advantageous for me to do so. but maybe there are advantages to being
local. and besides, all other things being equal, i'd rather not tell
lies. even to casinos.

any input would be appreciated.

thanks,

five

#2

You'll find others more knowledgeable than me, but we just became
a "seasonal Las Vegans" or you could call us "snow birds" and I'll tell
you what we're doing.

There's a HUGE difference in what you get from some places as a local.
We've given the local address to Stations, Coasts, Cannery, Palms,
Tuscany, and Hard Rock. We'll likely give the local address to all off-
strip properties.

On the strip we only have status in two players clubs; the Evil Empire
and its captives, and MGM/Mirage. We're keeping the Florida address on
those. Oh, we have a card at Wynn too, but with only enough play for
our 4 "new players" buffets each I wouldn't claim any "status" there ;-
)

Mac
www.CasinoCamper.com

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, fivespot <fivespot55@...> wrote:

what's the mix like for strip properties? should i admit to my host at
venetian that i'm a local now, or will doing that mess up my
(substantial) bounce offers? how about wynn, or harrah's or mgm
properties?

i plan to carry ID with both addresses for the foreseeable future,

#3

I think you should be honest and base your residency on your drivers license or state ID card as required by law. If you deal honestly with the casino it is easier to ask them to deal honestly with you. I am in Vegas very freqently and know the casinos I frequent and the city better than many locals, but I would never claim to be a NV resident unless I was employed there or otherwise given legal residency status. With a little effort, good host relationships, good coupon books (LVA, Casino Guide, Casino Player Funbook) any out of towner can often do as well or better than a local.

fivespot <fivespot55@gmail.com> wrote: i'm moving from northern nevada to southern nevada soon.

up in reno, there are some mostly-tourist properties where they give
locals better offers (like peppermill), and some where the tourist
offers seem better (like atlantis). atlantis might actually give
locals more total money, but it's divided up into like ten three-day
periods every quarter instead of one chunk every month or two. i only
play vp maybe once a week on average, and i don't expect to change
that, so i'll take (for example) $100/mo instead of 5*$30/mo any day.

what's the mix like for strip properties? should i admit to my host at
venetian that i'm a local now, or will doing that mess up my
(substantial) bounce offers? how about wynn, or harrah's or mgm
properties?

i plan to carry ID with both addresses for the foreseeable future, if
only for my reno visits. so i should be able to pretend to be a
visitor as long as the post office will forward my mail, if it's
advantageous for me to do so. but maybe there are advantages to being
local. and besides, all other things being equal, i'd rather not tell
lies. even to casinos.

any input would be appreciated.

thanks,

five

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#4

i'm moving from northern nevada to southern nevada soon.

up in reno, there are some mostly-tourist properties where they give
locals better offers (like peppermill), and some where the tourist
offers seem better (like atlantis). atlantis might actually give
locals more total money, but it's divided up into like ten three-day
periods every quarter instead of one chunk every month or two. i

only

play vp maybe once a week on average, and i don't expect to change
that, so i'll take (for example) $100/mo instead of 5*$30/mo any

day.

what's the mix like for strip properties? should i admit to my host

at

venetian that i'm a local now, or will doing that mess up my
(substantial) bounce offers? how about wynn, or harrah's or mgm
properties?

i plan to carry ID with both addresses for the foreseeable future,

if

only for my reno visits. so i should be able to pretend to be a
visitor as long as the post office will forward my mail, if it's
advantageous for me to do so. but maybe there are advantages to

being

local. and besides, all other things being equal, i'd rather not

tell

lies. even to casinos.

any input would be appreciated.

thanks,

five

This pertains to the downtown Las Vegas properties. When I was
working it I used a Reno address and got lots of mailers with room
comp, bounceback, freeroll tournaments, multiple points, etc. Then I
changed to a Las Vegas address and it killed the mail. So then I
changed to an Ely, Nevada address and the mail came back.

I have a friend who still works downtown pretty heavy. He uses a
Reno address and gets lots of stuff from downtown.

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#5

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mac McClellan" <mac_mcclellan@...>
wrote:

those. Oh, we have a card at Wynn too, but with only enough play for
our 4 "new players" buffets each I wouldn't claim any "status"

there ;-

Well apparently, doing over $560K coin-in in one day at the Wynn
doesn't give you any "status" either. I did that one day in early
March and have not received a single thing from them in the mail--not
even a "Welcome to the Wynn" postcard. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

#6

pokegimp wrote:

Well apparently, doing over $560K coin-in in one day at the Wynn
doesn't give you any "status" either. I did that one day in early
March and have not received a single thing from them in the mail--not
even a "Welcome to the Wynn" postcard. Pretty ridiculous if you ask
me.

$4500 earned 4 buffets last week (at $25/pt, 1 at 25 pts, another at
50, 2 more at 500). $18K garnered a host intro who extended a warm
welcome and a full coffee shop comp for 2 ($110 check). YMMV. (9/6 JB)

- H.

#7

<<Well apparently, doing over $560K coin-in in one day at the Wynn
doesn't give you any "status" either. I did that one day in early
March and have not received a single thing from them in the mail--not
even a "Welcome to the Wynn" postcard. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.>>

Have you called a host and asked? That's either a mistake or they've decided
you're not a profitable customer, which usually takes more than one day
unless they remember you from Bellagio.

Cogno

#8

Have you called a host and asked? That's either a mistake or they've

decided

you're not a profitable customer, which usually takes more than one

day

unless they remember you from Bellagio.

Cogno

Apparently it was my mistake in not giving them my e-mail address.
Thanks again to misscraps for enlightening me :slight_smile:

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#9

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, pesach kremen <royalflush2222@...>
wrote:

I think you should be honest and base your residency on your

drivers > license or state ID card as required by law. If you deal
honestly > with the casino it is easier to ask them to deal
honestly with you.

I don't think "legal residency" is an issue here in the same way it
is for getting a divorce (for example).

I'm generally honest with casinos (or, I should say that I never do
anything illegal). In this case I've been 100% honest with the slot
clubs of the casinos I listed.

In each casino where we already had cards I told them I was now a
seasonal resident, or "snow bird" and gave them my local address hand
written on a piece of paper. They entered that address in the
computer and a few weeks later my mailbox started getting happy! :slight_smile:

I also had a lengthy discussion with slot club representatives at
Suncoast, and at Red Rock, about making our accounts "inactive" when
we start wandering back towards Florida later this year.

Mac
www.CasinoCamper.com

#10

Well apparently, doing over $560K coin-in in one day at the Wynn
doesn't give you any "status" either. I did that one day in early
March and have not received a single thing from them in the mail--

not

even a "Welcome to the Wynn" postcard. Pretty ridiculous if you ask

me.

Wynn likes losers, not winners. Case in point: Last August GF and I
played within thirty points of each other( $270).Both of us playing
the same games. I won several dimes she lost about the same. She
gets several free room and free play offers, all I get are some minor
discounted room offers. After last e mail " discount offer" I e
mailed them back and basically told them to shove it.

  Larry F.

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