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Bar Rescue - Sand Dollar to Bar 702

#1

I just watched the Bar Rescue esipode about the Sand Dollar in Las Vegas (Comcast on Demand). I noticed some interesting things:

When Anthony Curtis was talking about how much a machine can generate, he stated you should see $3000 coin in per day per machine. If people are playing quarters leisurely ( 500 hands per hour) that would be a little under 5 hours of play per machine per day. He figured a 4-5% house edge and that would be $120-$150 per day or $44K to $55K per machine . With 14 machines, that is $613K to $766K a year. And yet with that profit potential, they seemed more concerned about the drinks and band. Both of those are important but I would have spent a little more time on the gaming aspect. Making sure the games are clean, in good working order, hand pays occur quickly, etc.

When AC was talking players hitting a royal, he mentioned a player tip of $100. Normally, I'd think that is crazy but this bar was trying to cater to the industry crowd. People in the service industry tip way more than most, so that number might be accurate. It's 10 times more than I would tip, but I was never a big Sand Dollar player.

At the end of the show, the narrator said the pay tables went from worst in Las Vegas to best in Las Vegas. I saw them go from 6/5 BP to 7/5 BP. I'd have to watch it again to make sure but that is hardly the best paytables in Las Vegas.

Interesting show. I might stop in on my September Las Vegas trip just to see what the place looks like now.

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#2

I saw that episode also

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On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:43 AM, <greeklandjohnny@aol.com> wrote:

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I just watched the Bar Rescue esipode about the Sand Dollar in Las Vegas
(Comcast on Demand). I noticed some interesting things:

When Anthony Curtis was talking about how much a machine can generate, he
stated you should see $3000 coin in per day per machine. If people are
playing quarters leisurely ( 500 hands per hour) that would be a little
under 5 hours of play per machine per day. He figured a 4-5% house edge and
that would be $120-$150 per day or $44K to $55K per machine . With 14
machines, that is $613K to $766K a year. And yet with that profit
potential, they seemed more concerned about the drinks and band. Both of
those are important but I would have spent a little more time on the gaming
aspect. Making sure the games are clean, in good working order, hand pays
occur quickly, etc.

When AC was talking players hitting a royal, he mentioned a player tip of
$100. Normally, I'd think that is crazy but this bar was trying to cater to
the industry crowd. People in the service industry tip way more than most,
so that number might be accurate. It's 10 times more than I would tip, but
I was never a big Sand Dollar player.

At the end of the show, the narrator said the pay tables went from worst
in Las Vegas to best in Las Vegas. I saw them go from 6/5 BP to 7/5 BP. I'd
have to watch it again to make sure but that is hardly the best paytables
in Las Vegas.

Interesting show. I might stop in on my September Las Vegas trip just to
see what the place looks like now.

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#3

I've seen practically every episode of Bar Rescue. I had read that Blair Rodman, well known in the poker world, was going to be on the Sand Dollar episode. He was the guy who came in to play video poker and complained about the poor pay schedules. Later, he was complimentary about the loosening of the pay schedules.

Essentially, Rodman was an actor in this episode which means at least some of the show is scripted.

#4

Most of the show is scripted.

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-------Original Message-------

From: Mickey
Date: 7/24/2013 9:57:16 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Bar Rescue - Sand Dollar to Bar 702

I've seen practically every episode of Bar Rescue. I had read that Blair
Rodman, well known in the poker world, was going to be on the Sand Dollar
episode. He was the guy who came in to play video poker and complained about
the poor pay schedules. Later, he was complimentary about the loosening of
the pay schedules.

Essentially, Rodman was an actor in this episode which means at least some
of the show is scripted.

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#5

Anthony Curtis wrote it up in the July Las Vegas Advisor and pretty much explains what was scripted, and what was not. Apparently there were some pretty hot tempers that were real, to the extent of rolling around on the floor.

I really like the show and only started watching it when it was announced several months ago that they had done the Sand Dollar.

I can only hope that the Sand Dollar/Bar 702 will be a big success and the concept will spread to some other bars in town. We'll see. A lot of bars seem pretty clueless.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dlvseuss@..." <dlvseuss@...> wrote:

Most of the show is scripted.

#6

Recently took a quick trip to Boulder Highway. I believe there are no 8/5 bonus games remaining at Arizona Charlie's Boulder, all have been downgraded to 7/5. I wonder if anybody can confirm this, before I report it to vpfree2?

I noticed many changes in the vp machines at the south end of Sam's Town between the buffet & Dunkin' Donuts (is this old news?). I couldn't find those old slow $.25 full-pay slant tops anywhere.
I found a long double-row of full pay deuces, $.05 10-coin machines, maybe 24 of them, near the front wall across from the entrance to the buffet. Also saw some 9/7 DB progressives near the movie theaters, $1 machines I think.

SH

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#7

the 9/7 db progressives at Sam's town are quarters.

Regards

A.P.

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From: S H <burberry25yo@yahoo.com>
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:34:23 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] VP updates, AZ Charlie's Boulder & Sam's Town
  

Recently took a quick trip to Boulder Highway. I believe there are no 8/5 bonus games remaining at Arizona Charlie's Boulder, all have been downgraded to 7/5. I wonder if anybody can confirm this, before I report it to vpfree2?

I noticed many changes in the vp machines at the south end of Sam's Town between the buffet & Dunkin' Donuts (is this old news?). I couldn't find those old slow $.25 full-pay slant tops anywhere.
I found a long double-row of full pay deuces, $.05 10-coin machines, maybe 24 of them, near the front wall across from the entrance to the buffet. Also saw some 9/7 DB progressives near the movie theaters, $1 machines I think.

SH

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#8

Sam's Town (old news), vpFREE2 was updated a while back....
The 25c FPDW are next to the 10 coin 5c FPDW

Dennis
vp-connoisseur

S H wrote:

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Recently� took a quick trip to Boulder Highway.� I believe there are no 8/5 bonus games remaining at Arizona Charlie's Boulder, all have been downgraded to 7/5.� I wonder if anybody can confirm this, before I report it to vpfree2?
� I noticed many changes in the vp machines at the south end of Sam's Town� between the buffet & Dunkin' Donuts� (is this old news?).� I couldn't find those old slow� $.25 full-pay slant tops anywhere.
� I found a long double-row of full� pay deuces, $.05 10-coin machines, maybe 24 of them, near the front wall across from the entrance to the� buffet.� Also saw some 9/7 DB progressives near the movie theaters, $1 machines I think.
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