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Bad luck at the Flamingo

#1

You know, the young couple who lost their money and other personal belongings obviously have a dad who's having a tough time trying to make things right. Sure, the fellow wasn't using his head when he took his hands off his bag, but all that shows me is he isn't really that experienced a casino frequenter--and there's no crime in that. And maybe they shouldn't have tried to win even more just before leaving. I don't think they did the right thing there either, but I'm not scolding them for it.

It seems they came in with $2000, won $3000 playing video poker....that's VIDEO POKER Everybody....and had it snatched away. How sickening is that? So instead of lecturing them on casino cunning or trying to radiate our savvy, why don't we react in a positive way? There's almost 2000 of us here. If the 1st 1000 responders offers $5, we can actually do something worthwhile for someone who I'm sure has learned that 'lesson of life' we've read about. I'll start off by putting in $100. We can send our checks to Tom, or you can send them to me, and I'll forward everything to Tom or Ed.

RS

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#2

Rob - I would not mind helping out, but I'd first have to see the video tape replay.
I was once scam'd years back by a person who claimed they had their money stolen in a casino, and I swore
"never again".
regards...Tom

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Rob Singer
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:51 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Bad luck at the Flamingo

  You know, the young couple who lost their money and other personal belongings obviously have a dad who's having a tough time trying to make things right. Sure, the fellow wasn't using his head when he took his hands off his bag, but all that shows me is he isn't really that experienced a casino frequenter--and there's no crime in that. And maybe they shouldn't have tried to win even more just before leaving. I don't think they did the right thing there either, but I'm not scolding them for it.

  It seems they came in with $2000, won $3000 playing video poker....that's VIDEO POKER Everybody....and had it snatched away. How sickening is that? So instead of lecturing them on casino cunning or trying to radiate our savvy, why don't we react in a positive way? There's almost 2000 of us here. If the 1st 1000 responders offers $5, we can actually do something worthwhile for someone who I'm sure has learned that 'lesson of life' we've read about. I'll start off by putting in $100. We can send our checks to Tom, or you can send them to me, and I'll forward everything to Tom or Ed.

  RS

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#3

Rob, Post the address, I'm in.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Singer" <rsinger1111@cox.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Bad luck at the Flamingo

You know, the young couple who lost their money and other personal

belongings obviously have a dad who's having a tough time trying to make
things right. Sure, the fellow wasn't using his head when he took his hands
off his bag, but all that shows me is he isn't really that experienced a
casino frequenter--and there's no crime in that. And maybe they shouldn't
have tried to win even more just before leaving. I don't think they did the
right thing there either, but I'm not scolding them for it.

It seems they came in with $2000, won $3000 playing video poker....that's

VIDEO POKER Everybody....and had it snatched away. How sickening is that? So
instead of lecturing them on casino cunning or trying to radiate our savvy,
why don't we react in a positive way? There's almost 2000 of us here. If the
1st 1000 responders offers $5, we can actually do something worthwhile for
someone who I'm sure has learned that 'lesson of life' we've read about.
I'll start off by putting in $100. We can send our checks to Tom, or you can
send them to me, and I'll forward everything to Tom or Ed.

RS

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#4

The easiest way to do it, would probably be to send donations via
paypal, most people on computers are more likely to send a donation
if they can do it without having to physically send something. Like
me for instance. Ok I know I'm lazy, but if one of you guys has a
paypal account or will set one up I will send a donation as well.

Chris H

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Pitcher" <fpitcher@f...> wrote:

Rob, Post the address, I'm in.

#5

Maybe it's just me, but the idea that, given the details in this
instance, people would want to collectively pitch in thousands of dollars
to a stranger who lost some discretionary income due to carelessness seems
incredibly bizarre.

     While I agree he is a victim and is being treated shoddily by the
Flamingo, surely there are more deserving, or more worthwhile places on
Earth, for the money. Innocent Iraqi children horribly burned in the
recent war, local charitable organizations, outfits that work to fight
horrid diseases...the list is nearly endless, and I'm afraid somebody who
lost his entertainment fund for the next couple of months is well towards
the bottom end of the parchment.

     Perhaps it would be better for all concerned to call, write or email
the relevant parties at the Flamingo, and discuss their intransigence with
your other gambling friends and relatives. Hundreds of angry voices
won't be ignored.

     And by all means make that donation, but to a considerably more
worthy cause.

gj

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On Thu, 15 May 2003, neweraexst wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Pitcher" <fpitcher@f...> wrote:
> Rob, Post the address, I'm in.
>
  The easiest way to do it, would probably be to send donations via
paypal, most people on computers are more likely to send a donation
if they can do it without having to physically send something. Like
me for instance. Ok I know I'm lazy, but if one of you guys has a
paypal account or will set one up I will send a donation as well.

Chris H

#6

     Maybe it's just me, but the idea that, given the details in this
instance, people would want to collectively pitch in thousands of dollars
to a stranger who lost some discretionary income due to carelessness seems
incredibly bizarre.

     While I agree he is a victim and is being treated shoddily by the
Flamingo, surely there are more deserving, or more worthwhile places on
Earth, for the money. Innocent Iraqi children horribly burned in the
recent war, local charitable organizations, outfits that work to fight
horrid diseases...the list is nearly endless, and I'm afraid somebody who
lost his entertainment fund for the next couple of months is well towards
the bottom end of the parchment.

It's not just you; I couldn't agree more. While the charitable sentiments expressed in other posts are noble, there is probably some cancer-striken pariplegic orphan made homeless by a tornado and whose car just broke down on the way to apply for a job because the used to work for Enron out there who is in far greater need of a helping hand.

john

#7

It's not just you; I couldn't agree more. While the charitable
sentiments expressed in other posts are noble, there is probably some
cancer-striken pariplegic orphan made homeless by a tornado and whose
car just broke down on the way to apply for a job because the used to
work for Enron out there who is in far greater need of a helping hand.

John

While I'm neutral about a collection, there will always be charities and
probably hundreds of Internet groups that support them. This is a VP
group discussing a member's misfortune. If you found a charity you
wanted to donate to, I'm sure someone could argue that there are always
better causes and on and on. The focus is about what happened to people
in this group! I don't think that anyone would disagree that there may
be others who are far worse off. I'm sure there are sadder cases than
Yuri in the world and we all chipped in to help out a fellow member.

Scot

#8

Good point, but the distinction in Yuri's case was that it involved serious poverty and hungry kids. In this case, we're talking about someone who lost the profits from a sucessful casino trip. If they are having trouble paying the rent, you've got my attention.

But, who am I to discourge any sort of charitable endeavor? By all means, send Rob money if you want to. I just think that gj bart made some good points.

john

Scot Krause wrote:

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It's not just you; I couldn't agree more. While the charitable
sentiments expressed in other posts are noble, there is probably some
cancer-striken pariplegic orphan made homeless by a tornado and whose
car just broke down on the way to apply for a job because the used to
work for Enron out there who is in far greater need of a helping hand.

John

While I'm neutral about a collection, there will always be charities and
probably hundreds of Internet groups that support them. This is a VP
group discussing a member's misfortune. If you found a charity you
wanted to donate to, I'm sure someone could argue that there are always
better causes and on and on. The focus is about what happened to people
in this group! I don't think that anyone would disagree that there may
be others who are far worse off. I'm sure there are sadder cases than
Yuri in the world and we all chipped in to help out a fellow member.

Scot

#9

Good point, but the distinction in Yuri's case was that it involved
serious poverty and hungry kids. In this case, we're talking about
someone who lost the profits from a sucessful casino trip. If they are
having trouble paying the rent, you've got my attention.

But, who am I to discourge any sort of charitable endeavor? By all
means, send Rob money if you want to. I just think that gj bart made
some good points.

john

As I said I'm neutral on contributing, but the point is if someone's

kid's are hungry, I'm sure there could be others who are still even
hungrier. Do you just try to find only the very hungriest child in the
world and contribute to him/her? I agree that a casino vacation and
recreational gambling and spending is entirely different than a starving
child, but that's not comparing apples to oranges in this case. Someone
pointed out something that happened to them in a group that deals with
casinos and gambling related issues and someone else wanted to try to do
something nice for them in return. We were not asked to identify the
needs of the world in deciding if it's something you would like to do or
not.

Scot

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Kelly [mailto:jwke…@…net]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:34 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bad luck at the Flamingo

#10

OK, OK, I give. Shame on me for naysaying ANY charitable endeavor. I've officially become a grumpy old man.

It probably comes from having raised several teenagers: they considered it "poverty" if the rims on their cars did not cost more than my monthly salary. After a while, one develops a strong need to sternly discriminate between worthy and unworthy requests for aid. <g>

I'll go take a nap and try to lighten up.

john

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>As I said I'm neutral on contributing, but the point is if someone's
kid's are hungry, I'm sure there could be others who are still even
hungrier. Do you just try to find only the very hungriest child in the
world and contribute to him/her? I agree that a casino vacation and
recreational gambling and spending is entirely different than a starving
child, but that's not comparing apples to oranges in this case. Someone
pointed out something that happened to them in a group that deals with
casinos and gambling related issues and someone else wanted to try to do
something nice for them in return. We were not asked to identify the
needs of the world in deciding if it's something you would like to do or
not.

Scot