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B Connected, be confused

We recently spent over a month at Sam's Town living in our motor home in their RV park. While in Las Vegas we played lots of video poker at Sam's Town and other Boyd properties downtown. Toward the end of the stay I had accrued enough points for Emerald status, or so I thought. But when I checked in with the boothlings they said I didn't have enough.

The machines displayed over 200,000 points which was more than required for Emerald.

Not so, so they said.

Then why is the machine showing 200,000 points?

Well, they said, looks like some of the points were earned at Tunica.

Yes, I was at Sam's Town Tunica when they switched over to B Connected.

I was then informed that points accrued at Tunica are at a different rate than at Las Vegas and I would have to be issued an Emerald card at my "home casino" which was listed as Sam's Town in Tunica.

I spent five days in Tunica and five weeks at ST, Las Vegas, so why is Tunica my "home casino"? No answer.

Besides, they said, the points for tier score must be earned in a three month period and it has been longer than three months since you were in Tunica.

Then why are the points still showing up on my account and displayed on a vp machine when I insert the card? No answer.

The B Connected card I was issued in Tunica worked just fine in machines in Las Vegas and the comp points were displayed correctly. But when I used the card to pay for meals, half the time it wouldn't work. I had to get a "local" card for it to work consistently.

So another casino company is trying to emulate Total Rewards but can't get it right. Different properties in different parts of the country accrue and redeem points at a different rate. How dumb is that? Tier status is different from casino to casino. How dumb is that? To add more confusion expired points for tier status are not deleted from the account.

What ever else we say about Harrah's -- and I am first in line to give them hell -- they do have Total Rewards running correctly and smoothly. A point earned in any Harrah's property is the same as any other point and is redeemable at any property.

I pointed out these flaws to a casino host but I'm sure nothing will come of it. For locals or visitors who don't go to other properties this will never be a problem. But for casino hoppers like us, it is an aggravation at best. So beware if you hit Boyd casinos in various parts of the country.

Oh yes, to add insult to injury I asked for a $100 voucher against my comp points. The boothling handed it over WITHOUT ASKING FOR MY ID. I was pretty unhappy about that event since a lost card could mean a cleaned out comp account. Again, beware.

Let me add we had a great time during our stay at Sam's Town. We would hop their shuttle bus and go to the Strip or downtown on a daily basis. We also had lots of Total Rewards points to burn off so we feasted like kings. We played enough that Sam's Town comped our stay in the RV park except the last four days (thus the $100 voucher).

We will probably do it again next winter.

Rick & Lucky Lucy back in cold Kansas

Regarding B Connected, Rick & LL said, "To add more
confusion expired points for tier status are not deleted
from the account."

Personally, I don't want any points removed from my account,
just because they are no longer used in determining my
players club level. :slight_smile:

The points on the display only tell you what you have available
to redeem. They do not indicate your players club level.

B Connected determines a player's level based on the
number of points earned in the previous 90 days. This is a
rolling period of time. So, points that you earned 91 days
ago do not count toward your current status level.
(Station Casinos does it exactly the same.)

Other casinos (such as Venetian) determine a player's
level based on the number of points earned in the previous
calendar year.

Back to Rick's comment, points are not expired simply
because they are no longer used in determining one's
players club level. Therefore, it makes sense for these
points to be displayed on the machine.

Curtis

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On 3/11/09, Rick & Lucky Lucy <luckylucy39@earthlink.net> wrote:

We recently spent over a month at Sam's Town living in our motor home in
their RV park. While in Las Vegas we played lots of video poker at Sam's
Town and other Boyd properties downtown. Toward the end of the stay I had
accrued enough points for Emerald status, or so I thought. But when I
checked in with the boothlings they said I didn't have enough.

The machines displayed over 200,000 points which was more than required for
Emerald.

Not so, so they said.

Then why is the machine showing 200,000 points?

Well, they said, looks like some of the points were earned at Tunica.

Yes, I was at Sam's Town Tunica when they switched over to B Connected.

I was then informed that points accrued at Tunica are at a different rate
than at Las Vegas and I would have to be issued an Emerald card at my "home
casino" which was listed as Sam's Town in Tunica.

I spent five days in Tunica and five weeks at ST, Las Vegas, so why is
Tunica my "home casino"? No answer.

Besides, they said, the points for tier score must be earned in a three
month period and it has been longer than three months since you were in
Tunica.

Then why are the points still showing up on my account and displayed on a
vp machine when I insert the card? No answer.

The B Connected card I was issued in Tunica worked just fine in machines in
Las Vegas and the comp points were displayed correctly. But when I used the
card to pay for meals, half the time it wouldn't work. I had to get a
"local" card for it to work consistently.

So another casino company is trying to emulate Total Rewards but can't get
it right. Different properties in different parts of the country accrue and
redeem points at a different rate. How dumb is that? Tier status is
different from casino to casino. How dumb is that? To add more confusion
expired points for tier status are not deleted from the account.

What ever else we say about Harrah's -- and I am first in line to give them
hell -- they do have Total Rewards running correctly and smoothly. A point
earned in any Harrah's property is the same as any other point and is
redeemable at any property.

I pointed out these flaws to a casino host but I'm sure nothing will come
of it. For locals or visitors who don't go to other properties this will
never be a problem. But for casino hoppers like us, it is an aggravation at
best. So beware if you hit Boyd casinos in various parts of the country.

Oh yes, to add insult to injury I asked for a $100 voucher against my comp
points. The boothling handed it over WITHOUT ASKING FOR MY ID. I was
pretty unhappy about that event since a lost card could mean a cleaned out
comp account. Again, beware.

Let me add we had a great time during our stay at Sam's Town. We would hop
their shuttle bus and go to the Strip or downtown on a daily basis. We also
had lots of Total Rewards points to burn off so we feasted like kings. We
played enough that Sam's Town comped our stay in the RV park except the last
four days (thus the $100 voucher).

We will probably do it again next winter.

Rick & Lucky Lucy back in cold Kansas

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Actually the machines display two sets of points; one for the tier score and another for comps. Very similar to Total Rewards, they are separate and distinct. The difference is Harrah's resets the tier point counter to zero at the beginning of the year so you know where you stand. With B Connected you don't have a clue.

Rick

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@...> wrote:

Regarding B Connected, Rick & LL said, "To add more
confusion expired points for tier status are not deleted
from the account."

Personally, I don't want any points removed from my account,
just because they are no longer used in determining my
players club level. :slight_smile:

The points on the display only tell you what you have available
to redeem. They do not indicate your players club level.

B Connected determines a player's level based on the
number of points earned in the previous 90 days. This is a
rolling period of time. So, points that you earned 91 days
ago do not count toward your current status level.
(Station Casinos does it exactly the same.)

Other casinos (such as Venetian) determine a player's
level based on the number of points earned in the previous
calendar year.

Back to Rick's comment, points are not expired simply
because they are no longer used in determining one's
players club level. Therefore, it makes sense for these
points to be displayed on the machine.

Curtis

On 3/11/09, Rick & Lucky Lucy <luckylucy39@...> wrote:
>
> We recently spent over a month at Sam's Town living in our motor home in
> their RV park. While in Las Vegas we played lots of video poker at Sam's
> Town and other Boyd properties downtown. Toward the end of the stay I had
> accrued enough points for Emerald status, or so I thought. But when I
> checked in with the boothlings they said I didn't have enough.
>
> The machines displayed over 200,000 points which was more than required for
> Emerald.
>
> Not so, so they said.
>
> Then why is the machine showing 200,000 points?
>
> Well, they said, looks like some of the points were earned at Tunica.
>
> Yes, I was at Sam's Town Tunica when they switched over to B Connected.
>
> I was then informed that points accrued at Tunica are at a different rate
> than at Las Vegas and I would have to be issued an Emerald card at my "home
> casino" which was listed as Sam's Town in Tunica.
>
> I spent five days in Tunica and five weeks at ST, Las Vegas, so why is
> Tunica my "home casino"? No answer.
>
> Besides, they said, the points for tier score must be earned in a three
> month period and it has been longer than three months since you were in
> Tunica.
>
> Then why are the points still showing up on my account and displayed on a
> vp machine when I insert the card? No answer.
>
> The B Connected card I was issued in Tunica worked just fine in machines in
> Las Vegas and the comp points were displayed correctly. But when I used the
> card to pay for meals, half the time it wouldn't work. I had to get a
> "local" card for it to work consistently.
>
> So another casino company is trying to emulate Total Rewards but can't get
> it right. Different properties in different parts of the country accrue and
> redeem points at a different rate. How dumb is that? Tier status is
> different from casino to casino. How dumb is that? To add more confusion
> expired points for tier status are not deleted from the account.
>
> What ever else we say about Harrah's -- and I am first in line to give them
> hell -- they do have Total Rewards running correctly and smoothly. A point
> earned in any Harrah's property is the same as any other point and is
> redeemable at any property.
>
> I pointed out these flaws to a casino host but I'm sure nothing will come
> of it. For locals or visitors who don't go to other properties this will
> never be a problem. But for casino hoppers like us, it is an aggravation at
> best. So beware if you hit Boyd casinos in various parts of the country.
>
> Oh yes, to add insult to injury I asked for a $100 voucher against my comp
> points. The boothling handed it over WITHOUT ASKING FOR MY ID. I was
> pretty unhappy about that event since a lost card could mean a cleaned out
> comp account. Again, beware.
>
> Let me add we had a great time during our stay at Sam's Town. We would hop
> their shuttle bus and go to the Strip or downtown on a daily basis. We also
> had lots of Total Rewards points to burn off so we feasted like kings. We
> played enough that Sam's Town comped our stay in the RV park except the last
> four days (thus the $100 voucher).
>
> We will probably do it again next winter.
>
> Rick & Lucky Lucy back in cold Kansas

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I also learned, by losing thousands of tier points, that only ONE casino is considered your home casino....

This is what happened to me: I used to play at Sam's Town...and as it turned out, the B-Connected program considered that my home casino...so Sam's Town rules applied to my account. But I stopped playing there and started playing a lot at the California. Well..in the span of two weeks more than 20,000 tier points were purged from my account by Sam's Town, at a time when I was playing many, many hours, some of them on $1 vp machines, at the California. I was only able to stop this by getting my home casino changed to the Cal.

Better ask where your home is...and be sure you play there, or you could lose a lot of tier points really fast.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Rick & Lucky Lucy" <luckylucy39@...> wrote:

Actually the machines display two sets of points; one for the tier score and another for comps. Very similar to Total Rewards, they are separate and distinct. The difference is Harrah's resets the tier point counter to zero at the beginning of the year so you know where you stand. With B Connected you don't have a clue.

Rick

I emailed B Connected and they changed my home casino from ST Tunica to MSS. They also added the offers I would have been entitled to that I had missed.

Very good customer service I thought!

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Rich" <canoebum@...> wrote:

I also learned, by losing thousands of tier points, that only ONE casino is considered your home casino....

This is what happened to me: I used to play at Sam's Town...and as it turned out, the B-Connected program considered that my home casino...so Sam's Town rules applied to my account. But I stopped playing there and started playing a lot at the California. Well..in the span of two weeks more than 20,000 tier points were purged from my account by Sam's Town, at a time when I was playing many, many hours, some of them on $1 vp machines, at the California. I was only able to stop this by getting my home casino changed to the Cal.

Better ask where your home is...and be sure you play there, or you could lose a lot of tier points really fast.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Rick & Lucky Lucy" <luckylucy39@> wrote:
>
> Actually the machines display two sets of points; one for the tier score and another for comps. Very similar to Total Rewards, they are separate and distinct. The difference is Harrah's resets the tier point counter to zero at the beginning of the year so you know where you stand. With B Connected you don't have a clue.
>
> Rick

What is there email address?

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On 3/12/09, kiwiboy4921 <waynes@kiwiplan.com> wrote:

I emailed B Connected and they changed my home casino from ST Tunica to
MSS. They also added the offers I would have been entitled to that I had
missed.

Very good customer service I thought!

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their

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On 3/12/09, Curtis Rich <lgtvegas@gmail.com> wrote:

What is there email address?

On 3/12/09, kiwiboy4921 <waynes@kiwiplan.com> wrote:

I emailed B Connected and they changed my home casino from ST Tunica to
MSS. They also added the offers I would have been entitled to that I had
missed.

Very good customer service I thought!

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have always emailed them through the B Connected website (contact us) and had a response within a day.

Matt

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________________________________
From: Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@gmail.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:22:21 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] B Connected, be confused

their

On 3/12/09, Curtis Rich <lgtvegas@gmail. com> wrote:

What is there email address?

On 3/12/09, kiwiboy4921 <waynes@kiwiplan. com> wrote:

I emailed B Connected and they changed my home casino from ST Tunica to
MSS. They also added the offers I would have been entitled to that I had
missed.

Very good customer service I thought!

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Same!

https://www.bconnectedonline.com/my-contact-us

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Matt <proud2operaterides@...> wrote:

I have always emailed them through the B Connected website (contact us) and had a response within a day.

Matt

________________________________
From: Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@...>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:22:21 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] B Connected, be confused

their

On 3/12/09, Curtis Rich <lgtvegas@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> What is there email address?
>
>
> On 3/12/09, kiwiboy4921 <waynes@kiwiplan. com> wrote:
>>
>> I emailed B Connected and they changed my home casino from ST Tunica to
>> MSS. They also added the offers I would have been entitled to that I had
>> missed.
>>
>> Very good customer service I thought!
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks! I will give it a try.

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On 3/12/09, Matt <proud2operaterides@yahoo.com> wrote:

I have always emailed them through the B Connected website (contact us) and
had a response within a day.

Matt

________________________________
From: Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@gmail.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:22:21 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] B Connected, be confused

their

On 3/12/09, Curtis Rich <lgtvegas@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> What is there email address?
>
>
> On 3/12/09, kiwiboy4921 <waynes@kiwiplan. com> wrote:
>>
>> I emailed B Connected and they changed my home casino from ST Tunica to
>> MSS. They also added the offers I would have been entitled to that I
had
>> missed.
>>
>> Very good customer service I thought!

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]