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Attire for Shows in Vegas

#1

Cogno's answer is great. But, I would like to add my opinion: You should
wear whatever the hell you want.

Do you really care what the other people in the theatre think of your
'class' based on your attire? Just be comfortable. If you feel like
wearing
shorts, then wear shorts.

Personally, I don't like wearing shorts - ever. I always wear jeans and a
Hawaiian shirt everywhere in Vegas, even in the nicest steakhouse.
After 20 years, no one has ever said anything to me or refused service.
And....I've been very comfortable....which is all that counts.

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On 3/12/06, george lee <glee4ever@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yes you can wear shorts and advertise how low class
you are when attending a show.

Otherwise, what's the problem with slacks?

--- Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@gmail.com> wrote:
> <<At the better shows Danny Gans, The Scintas is it
> better to wear slacks or
> do most people stay in shorts. never been to vegas,
> will be 1st time>>
>
> Vegas is very casual and shorts can be worn almost
> everywhere except the finest restaurants and the nightclubs.
>
> Cogno

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#2

I hate pants and wear shorts exclusively. I wear my long shorts,
beaten black shirt, dickies jacket and vans shoes everywear I could
give a rats a** what anyone thinks. I wear this outfit to almost
every show and steakhouse in Vegas. Its great to see the people
react when Im relaxing in the high limit lounge or playing the 5s and
25s, especially the old rich ladies that grab their purse when they
see me coming. Stereotypes are funny but they dont bother me a bit.
Comfort is what is important. I throw on a suit or slacks when it is
needed and only when it is needed. Please yourself and not others.

Cogno's answer is great. But, I would like to add my opinion: You

should

wear whatever the hell you want.

Do you really care what the other people in the theatre think of

your

'class' based on your attire? Just be comfortable. If you feel

like

wearing
shorts, then wear shorts.

Personally, I don't like wearing shorts - ever. I always wear

jeans and a

Hawaiian shirt everywhere in Vegas, even in the nicest steakhouse.
After 20 years, no one has ever said anything to me or refused

service.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Curtis Rich" <LGTVegas@...> wrote:

And....I've been very comfortable....which is all that counts.

On 3/12/06, george lee <glee4ever@...> wrote:
>
> Yes you can wear shorts and advertise how low class
> you are when attending a show.
>
> Otherwise, what's the problem with slacks?
>
> --- Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@...> wrote:
> > <<At the better shows Danny Gans, The Scintas is it
> > better to wear slacks or
> > do most people stay in shorts. never been to vegas,
> > will be 1st time>>
> >
> > Vegas is very casual and shorts can be worn almost
> > everywhere except the finest restaurants and the nightclubs.
> >
> > Cogno

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#3

marvele66 wrote: Its great to see the people react when Im relaxing in
the high limit lounge or playing the 5s and 25s, especially the old rich
ladies that grab their purse when they
see me coming.

Without trying to tell marvele66 what to do (I take him at his word when
he says he doesn't give a rat's a** what anyone else's opinion is),
there are good reasons for strong players to dress appropriately when
they are in a high limit room. MOST people who play in High Limit rooms
dress nicely. "Overly" casual or sloppy sticks out and draws attention.
If a casino was hovering between allowing you to play and kicking you
out because you were too good, dress could easily be a reason to tip the
scales against you.

I don't know Marvele66 at all. Perhaps he's a terrible player. In that
case, the casino will put up with whatever he wears. But if he's good,
or intends to become good, perhaps he should re-consider his attire in
High Limit rooms.

Bob Dancer

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or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.

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#4

I don't know Marvele66 at all. Perhaps he's a terrible player. In that
case, the casino will put up with whatever he wears. But if he's good,
or intends to become good, perhaps he should re-consider his attire in
High Limit rooms.

Bob Dancer

I have always found that being well dressed,(dress pants and shoes,nice shirt or
sweater..etc)especially in the evening can be more of an asset than not and one is not
necessarily sacrificing comfort to do so either. Servers tend to be more attentive and
welcoming whether one is going coffee shop or gourmet for dinner, and cocktail
servers,dealers and slot personnel tend to be a lot more polite and amiable especially if
you are also smiling.

Shorts are and always will be day wear (except for in the tropics or in the jungle) and
unless you look like Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt, are not an inviting sight to see in the
evening at the Steak House or in the High Limit rooms.

There are so many places in the world one can look like a rat's *** and even be one if one
wishes to, that I find it difficult in finding value in adding more to them.

#5

Bob is right, you gotta look the part. Part of being a successful
high-limit pro is being able to sell yourself to the casino as being a
wealthy sucker. One AC pro I know is a nice enough guy and gambles big
enough, but can't seem to get much from his hosts, except heat. Maybe
it has something to do with his wardrobe, which is more appropriate
for watching late night TV at his house, or his fanny pack, or his
notebook, which he always makes records of immediately after
terminating play. All these things look really bad, the guy just has
pro written all over him.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@...> wrote:

Without trying to tell marvele66 what to do (I take him at his word when
he says he doesn't give a rat's a** what anyone else's opinion is),
there are good reasons for strong players to dress appropriately when
they are in a high limit room. MOST people who play in High Limit rooms
dress nicely. "Overly" casual or sloppy sticks out and draws attention.
If a casino was hovering between allowing you to play and kicking you
out because you were too good, dress could easily be a reason to tip the
scales against you.

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#6

But, isn't this "required" by the IRS?

.....BL

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc" <paladingamingllc@...> wrote:

or his
notebook, which he always makes records of immediately after
terminating play. All these things look really bad, the guy just has
pro written all over him.

#7

Bob raised an interesting point. I don't really see locals
dressing "overly casual or sloppy" when going out to play.

If we're going out to play, we're dressing nicely because (among other
reasons) we know that there's a good chance that we'll see people we
know in the casino, and we don't want to look bad. If we go out to
the strip for dinner and a show, we're dressing for a night on the
town. Because of this, I find it somewhat amusing when I hear
tourists speak disdainfully about "locals" and our attire.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@...> wrote:

MOST people who play in High Limit rooms dress nicely. "Overly" casual
or sloppy sticks out and draws attention.

#8

marvele66 wrote: Its great to see the people react when Im relaxing

in

the high limit lounge or playing the 5s and 25s, especially the old

rich

ladies that grab their purse when they
see me coming.

Without trying to tell marvele66 what to do (I take him at his word

when

he says he doesn't give a rat's a** what anyone else's opinion is),
there are good reasons for strong players to dress appropriately

when

they are in a high limit room. MOST people who play in High Limit

rooms

dress nicely. "Overly" casual or sloppy sticks out and draws

attention.

If a casino was hovering between allowing you to play and kicking

you

out because you were too good, dress could easily be a reason to

tip the

scales against you.

I don't know Marvele66 at all. Perhaps he's a terrible player. In

that

case, the casino will put up with whatever he wears. But if he's

good,

or intends to become good, perhaps he should re-consider his attire

in

High Limit rooms.

Bob Dancer

For the best in video poker information, visit www.bobdancer.com
or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.

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Well Bob, I consider myself pretty damn good with three different vp
games. The difference between myself and you is I play for fun. I
dont do this for a living and never want to. Overly dressed also
stands out especially when someone is sitting at a vp game for hours
on end. Dont fool yurself into thinking they dont know who is a pro
and who isnt, they know. Ive had several discussions with casino
personal that suggest an advantage player is sitting here or there
and most of the time they are right. I always investigate myself.

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#9

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lainiewolf702" <lainiewolf702@...>
wrote:

Bob raised an interesting point. I don't really see locals
dressing "overly casual or sloppy" when going out to play.

If we're going out to play, we're dressing nicely because (among

other

reasons) we know that there's a good chance that we'll see people

we

know in the casino, and we don't want to look bad. If we go out to
the strip for dinner and a show, we're dressing for a night on the
town. Because of this, I find it somewhat amusing when I hear
tourists speak disdainfully about "locals" and our attire.

MOST people who play in High Limit rooms dress nicely. "Overly"

casual

or sloppy sticks out and draws attention.

Funny thing is I find that casino personnel seem to feel at ease with
me because of my "laid back" dress and often like to conversate and
help me out with my every need. Ive made many friends this way. Not
everyone is a die hard pro and needs to disguise themselves. If you
and your wife enjoy going out into town dressed up for a nice evening
I see nothing wrong with that, I do it on occasion myself. What I
dont agree with is being worried about what people think of you
because you are wearing jeans or shorts, but to each his own. I didnt
realize that "locals" gave a damn about what tourists thought. What I
do care about is a persons demeanor. A nicely dressed a**hole would
get the attention of personnel more than a pleasant, modestly dressed
vp player would in a casino. Ive seen this in many cases.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@> wrote:

#10

Hey, it's simple

If you dress like a bum they treat you like a bum.

Cheers..
.
.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc"
<paladingamingllc@...> wrote:

> Without trying to tell marvele66 what to do (I take him at his

word when

> he says he doesn't give a rat's a** what anyone else's opinion

is),

> there are good reasons for strong players to dress appropriately

when

> they are in a high limit room. MOST people who play in High Limit

rooms

> dress nicely. "Overly" casual or sloppy sticks out and draws

attention.

> If a casino was hovering between allowing you to play and kicking

you

> out because you were too good, dress could easily be a reason to

tip the

> scales against you.

Bob is right, you gotta look the part. Part of being a successful
high-limit pro is being able to sell yourself to the casino as

being a

wealthy sucker. One AC pro I know is a nice enough guy and gambles

big

enough, but can't seem to get much from his hosts, except heat.

Maybe

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@> wrote:
it has something to do with his wardrobe, which is more appropriate
for watching late night TV at his house, or his fanny pack, or his
notebook, which he always makes records of immediately after
terminating play. All these things look really bad, the guy just has
pro written all over him.

______________________________________________________________________
_

coming soon: www.paladingaming.net

#11

I hope this does not come across as confrontational, but I respectfully
disagree.

I wore blue jeans and and a polo shirt at the Steakhouse at Flamingo last
month and my dining partner wore something similar. Although we were
dressed significantly 'down', we were treated very well by the wait
staff....no differently than the well-dressed patrons.

I recently went to see "Hairspray" at the Luxor. We got our tickets at the
last minute and they were lousy. Although all four of us were wearing blue
jeans and I wore a Hawaiian shirt (not dressed up at all), we politely asked
an usher if we could move to some empty seats in the orchestra
section. He was very accommodating and moved us right away.

I think it is more about how one acts and treats other people, rather than
what one wears.

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On 3/13/06, whitejeeps <whitejeeps@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey, it's simple

If you dress like a bum they treat you like a bum.

Cheers..

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#12

Hey, no confrontation taken. We are not talking rules here. Most of
the people who work in Vegas in service industry are professionals.
If they are doing their job they treat all customers professional.
But, there a few out there that might discriminate against the
dressed down. The one who suffers is the one dressed down that
doesn't get the service. We can stiff the wait person or bell person,
but that doesn't help. It makes the day for the person who was
stiffed. It brightens his day talking about the bum who stiffed him.

Again, for me, I don't want to confront anyone. Also, I'm not saying
people who dress relaxed are bums. Were just tossing around ideas
here. We get others views on these type subjects and probably
continue to do what we always do.

In the early 80s I did some business in Ocean City, Md. I'll never
forget the first meeting I had with my new lawyer on a hot day in
May. I went into the lawyers office and every person there was in
shirt sleeves. That's the way the locals did it. I was really
surprised. Now this was the 80s and the people in these type offices
back home were always dressed up. But, when in Rome? Today, clothing
wise, it's a relaxed time. At work I dress different than I did 25
years ago. I think it's a good thing.

Jeep.
.

I hope this does not come across as confrontational, but I

respectfully

disagree.

I wore blue jeans and and a polo shirt at the Steakhouse at

Flamingo last

month and my dining partner wore something similar. Although we

were

dressed significantly 'down', we were treated very well by the wait
staff....no differently than the well-dressed patrons.

I recently went to see "Hairspray" at the Luxor. We got our

tickets at the

last minute and they were lousy. Although all four of us were

wearing blue

jeans and I wore a Hawaiian shirt (not dressed up at all), we

politely asked

an usher if we could move to some empty seats in the orchestra
section. He was very accommodating and moved us right away.

I think it is more about how one acts and treats other people,

rather than

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.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Curtis Rich" <LGTVegas@...> wrote:

what one wears.

On 3/13/06, whitejeeps <whitejeeps@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, it's simple
>
> If you dress like a bum they treat you like a bum.
>
> Cheers..

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#13

Personally, when in doubt, I had ALWAYS rather be slightly over dressed than ever under dressed for any occasion. Notice that I said......when in doubt as to what to wear.
   
  Good Luck,
   
  Nita

  Hey, no confrontation taken. We are not talking rules here. Most of
the people who work in Vegas in service industry are professionals.
If they are doing their job they treat all customers professional.
But, there a few out there that might discriminate against the
dressed down. The one who suffers is the one dressed down that
doesn't get the service. We can stiff the wait person or bell person,
but that doesn't help. It makes the day for the person who was
stiffed. It brightens his day talking about the bum who stiffed him.

Again, for me, I don't want to confront anyone. Also, I'm not saying
people who dress relaxed are bums. Were just tossing around ideas
here. We get others views on these type subjects and probably
continue to do what we always do.

In the early 80s I did some business in Ocean City, Md. I'll never
forget the first meeting I had with my new lawyer on a hot day in
May. I went into the lawyers office and every person there was in
shirt sleeves. That's the way the locals did it. I was really
surprised. Now this was the 80s and the people in these type offices
back home were always dressed up. But, when in Rome? Today, clothing
wise, it's a relaxed time. At work I dress different than I did 25
years ago. I think it's a good thing.

Jeep.
.

I hope this does not come across as confrontational, but I

respectfully

disagree.

I wore blue jeans and and a polo shirt at the Steakhouse at

Flamingo last

month and my dining partner wore something similar. Although we

were

dressed significantly 'down', we were treated very well by the wait
staff....no differently than the well-dressed patrons.

I recently went to see "Hairspray" at the Luxor. We got our

tickets at the

last minute and they were lousy. Although all four of us were

wearing blue

jeans and I wore a Hawaiian shirt (not dressed up at all), we

politely asked

an usher if we could move to some empty seats in the orchestra
section. He was very accommodating and moved us right away.

I think it is more about how one acts and treats other people,

rather than

what one wears.

>
> Hey, it's simple
>
> If you dress like a bum they treat you like a bum.
>
> Cheers..

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#14

Nita, I'm with you and Liz on this one... Lainie

anita walker <ab4nita@yahoo.com> wrote: Personally, when in doubt, I had ALWAYS rather be slightly over dressed than ever under dressed for any occasion. Notice that I said......when in doubt as to what to wear.

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#15

OK then, I can't keep my fingers off my keyboard any longer. . . . .
  As I've mentioned before. . . .I work for an airline. . . . 90% of the people I see dress just fine. . in fact it kinda amazes me how many men still (must) wear a suit and tie to "work". BUT on the other hand, it also amazes me when I see someone come to check in with old jeans and a grubby t-shirt! It's like--"Oh! I've paid 100s of dollars to fly and I think I'll dress like I'm going to work on the car!" What is that "rule" about it only takes 20 seconds. . . . And, these are the folks that will usually ask for a "better" seat (exit row) or even a free upgrade! Yeah, right--how about this seat ON THE WING!!!! Don't get me wrong. . . we have many truckers that fly on us (drive rig one way and then fly back--always carry a tool box. . .) and they don't dress "pretty" but they're always "neat" looking and usually VERY polite! I guess I'm a bit "traditional" since when I fly, I can't wear denim of any kind if I want to sit in first class--and since the flight may be full and
the only seat left on the flight may be in first class. .. well, it's usually casual pants and a sweater or similiar for me! I guess if it's a matter of comfort. . . .I can feel comfortable in dockers type pants and a knit top . . . as easlily as jeans. . . . So--to me--people that say that they can't feel comfortable in anything other than (fill in the blank) just doesn't make a whole lotta sense! They may prefer to wear certain clothes but comfort can be achieved with almost any look! I guess I'm saying .. . . .in my customer service eyes--look the part or settle being strapped to the wing!!!! But, having said that. . . . since I am a professional, I will service each and every customer to the best of my ability. . . .but being human--if I'm more motivated--I guess I have more ability!!! Just my $00.02!!!

anita walker <ab4nita@yahoo.com> wrote:Personally, when in doubt, I had ALWAYS rather be slightly over dressed than ever under dressed for any occasion. Notice that I said......when in doubt as to what to wear.Good Luck, Nita

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whitejeeps <whitejeeps@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey, no confrontation taken. We are not talking rules here. Most of the people who work in Vegas in service industry are professionals. . . . .
wise, it's a relaxed time. At work I dress different than I did 25 years ago. I think it's a good thing.Jeep.
In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Curtis Rich" <LGTVegas@...> wrote:I hope this does not come across as confrontational, but I respectfully disagree.. . . . .I think it is more about how one acts and treats other people, rather than what one wears.

Jean H--
   
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You can steer yourself any direction you choose.
You're on your own. And you know what you know.
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