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Atlantic City trip

Here's a copy of a report I posted elsewhere, about 2 days I just
spent at Caesars Atlantic City. Please don't confuse with similarly
named properties in LV etc!

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"rfdruckenmiller2" <rfdruckenmiller2@y...> wrote:

Caesar's AC has modified the rate at which the jackpot for the 9/6
$0.25 JOB progressives increases. [snip] I figure this is
about one-tenth the rate at which the jackpot formerly increased.
Furthermore, after playing the machines for an hour and a half, I
found that I had accumulated zero cashback (formerly, that amount
of play would have gotten me about $6 CB).

I'm just back from 2 nights at Caesars. I'd had a mailed offer of 2
weekday nights. On checkin, they said I'd been upgraded to a suite.
My best guess is that this because on my last trip to Las Vegas
Hilton (just BEFORE they left the Caesars corporate family), I
played more than my usual level: a bit of $1 play, for a total of at
least $10K/day.

(As others have reported, the $120+ in comps that I got at LVH
before the switch was still available on my Connection Comp, & I
assume I've got the same amount for my next LVH visit due to "double-
dipping." A great deal.)

Suite was very nice. Roomy, a bit of shore view, nice TV, high speed
net access for a compable $10/day, jacuzzi in bathroom. Access to
players club on 3rd floor, with mini-buffet & flat screen TVs; they
deduct $10/person from comp account for use of this club. But it's
pleasant, & perfect if restaurants are crowded.

Anyway, my main report is that we got practically nothing in comps
for our play this trip. Maybe .1%. I can play $1000/hr on a fast
quarter machine. I playing with my mother, so talking with her may
have slowed me down a bit, but she was playing on my card, so I'd
think that combined we were still hitting ~$1K.

We were getting less than $1/hr in comps. And this WASN'T at the
progressives. Although our play WAS mostly 9/6 JOB. The lousy comp
rate came at those non-progressives near the Gladiator bar. Even
when we played those $1 JOB machines for half an hour, I don't think
we made more than $1.

I was thinking that maybe they'd reduced my rate because of the
comped suite? Or because we were winning? (No royals, but plenty of
quads, even a couple at the $1 level, even a couple of straight
flushes, gave us over $300 profit.) Based on the above report,
though, maybe comps on all JOB has been drastically reduced?

Other than Caesars, we played at Ballys, mostly 3-play quarter
Bonus, with just a bit of $1 JOB prog. Ballys comps were much
better. 3-play of course isn't 3x as fast as single line, but maybe
we did about $2.5K in an hour & got $7 comps, so somewhere in the
area of .25%.

BTW, the Caesars buffet is fine but not extraordinary, but during
the week, $10/person for any meal is a pretty good deal.

The VIP staff at Caesars was friendly, as were the buffet staff,
housekeeping, etc. Almost uniformly, everyone I encountered at the
slot club booth was rude, in a New York kind of way, like they were
doing me a great favor by giving me their time, thought I was an
idiot, & couldn't wait to get rid of me. Much worse than in Nevada
or elsewhere. But the mailed offers have been great, so I'll
continue if the offers continue.

Stuart (RandomStu)
sresnick2@comcast.net
http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/mypage.htm

--- Hi Stuart,
Can you please clarify for me what it means to be "rude in a "New
York kind of way"? I was born in NYC, and I'm not rude, but then
I've lived in the Midwest most of my life. I'd certainly appreciate
learning what kind of rudeness to look out for when visiting my
friends and family who still reside in NY.
I'd also be interested in your opinion of what constitutes "Chicago
kind of rudeness", ":LA kind of rudeness", even "Las Veags kind of
rudeness"....somehow I thought that since we all live in the good
old USA
that we were equally rude (or polite) depending on our individual
personality, upbringing, and frame of mind. I'm distressed to learn
that there is a special kind of rudeness in New York.
Mardav

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"rfdruckenmiller2" <rfdruckenmiller2@y...> wrote:

The VIP staff at Caesars was friendly, as were the buffet staff,
housekeeping, etc. Almost uniformly, everyone I encountered at the
slot club booth was rude, in a New York kind of way, like they were
doing me a great favor by giving me their time, thought I was an
idiot, & couldn't wait to get rid of me. Much worse than in Nevada
or elsewhere. But the mailed offers have been great, so I'll
continue if the offers continue.

Stuart (RandomStu)
sresnick2@c...
http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/mypage.htm

I'll take a stab at this. I don't pretend to know what Stuart meant,
but I've used that same phrase and here's what I mean. First, some of
what I, as a southerner, perceive as rudeness, I assume that other
New Yorkers would not. I mean, if I ask somebody on the sidewalk in
NYC what time it is and he snaps out "5:45" and keeps on his way, not
acknowledging my presence other than to answer my question, that
would be rude in a New York kind of way - because down south, you
have to stop and look at your watch (even if you just looked and know
exactly what time it is) and then meet the other person's gaze and
say "5:45." Many people will even give you seconds, like "5:44 and
38, no, 39 seconds" and quite a few will follow this by turning the
watch toward you, so you can verify that they're not pulling your leg
or that they really do know how to read a watch. After all that, it
would be rude for me not to say why I care, so I'd have to say
something like "Thanks, I supposed to meet a friend at 6 over at
Harrah's. Guess I'd better be heading over that way."

There is also the case of where people are intentionally rude, and I
can quickly define at least 3 regional variations of this. Not that
all people are like this, particularly those who move around in their
lives, but just that if you did a fly-on-the-wall survey of 100
random rudenesses, I think the majority would follow these patterns.
(I'm having trouble with my Chicago/Midwest Rude Pattern so I'm not
posting it right now - I know it exists and that I've had it
inflicted on me, that it's the same general pattern for both the city
and rural people in the region, but I can't get the description just
right to satisfy myself. Maybe I'll post it later, or possibly
someone else can post it. Also, there are numerous ethnic/region
combination Rudeness Patterns that differ substantially from the
standard regional patterns, but I just don't have time to go into all
that. Ahhh, so much rudeness and so little time....)

Being rude in a New York kind of way is an attitude which
says: "Hurry up, ain't got all day, spit it out, either pass that car
or hug his bumper so I can pass both of you, take it or leave it, I
don't care, just get on with it."

Being rude in a West coast kind of way is an attitude which
says: "You're obviously not cool but I know it's my job to deal with
you anyway, so could we please do with as little pain to me as
possible? Please don't try to be friendly to me, and please don't
talk to your children or husband or dog in front of me, it may reveal
little slices of your pitiful uncool life that will make me cringe.
Just say what you want in that funky regional accent you have, and
repeat it several times until I understand you, and then I'll give
you an answer and you can be on your way. No, no follow-up questions
please."

Being rude in a Southern kind of way is an attitude which says: "Boy,
what do we have here? Obviously a choice specimen, yes sir, I'll play
along, ain't got nothing better to do and anyway you'll give me
something to talk about with my friends tonight. Just what was it you
wanted, sugar? Why would you want something like that, honey? Oh, I
see, tell me more. I see, I see, okay, bye-bye now sugar I got a real
customer coming up now, please step back far enough that I can start
talking about you right away, this new customer looks like normal
folks."

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mardav31331" <mardav31331@y...> wrote:

--- Hi Stuart,
Can you please clarify for me what it means to be "rude in a "New
York kind of way"?