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Arrests for cashing freeplay for others

Has anyone heard about the crackdowns on cashing out freeplay? Mostly Caesar’s properties on the east coast. I occasionally play through and cash out free play for a friend. I am not sure I want to get arrested for it.

While redeeming Free Play for a friend (with their consent) may run contrary to the rules of a slot club, I doubt there’s anything illegal about it.

Keep the activity within reason and I doubt you’ll draw unwanted attention.

FWIW, there’s been discussion of a group of individuals who’ve managed to register multiple new accounts using false id’s and have redeemed FSP on subsequent visits. It’s suggested that it was the use of fraudulent id’s that warranted the attention of outside authorities.

Yes there’s been arrests but no successful prosecutions AFAIK. And while the charges haven’t stuck…most of the 86’s have. Proceed with caution.

I must have missed this discussion. Multiple fake ID’s?! No wonder they got busted. Assuming they never used the ID’s after getting a players card, how did they know they were fake?

<<FWIW, there’s been discussion of a group of individuals who’ve managed to register multiple new accounts using false id’s and have redeemed FSP on subsequent visits. It’s suggested that it was the use of fraudulent id’s that warranted the attention of outside authorities.>>

They’re not fake id’s, you can get no-doc driver’s licenses now:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/thousands-immigrants-fill-nevada-dmv-offices-get-new-driving-cards

Is there a link someone can give for this story?

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Subject: [SPAM][vpFREE] RE: Arrests for cashing freeplay for others

Yes there’s been arrests but no successful prosecutions AFAIK. And while the charges haven’t stuck…most of the 86’s have. Proceed with caution.

There are no stories to link to, but CET is in mega-freak out mode right now for whatever reason and using gaming agents in PA, Ohio, and elsewhere as their own in-house detectives to weed out unprofitable customers or customers pushing the envelope on the rules of the players club but not otherwise committing any crime.

“For whatever reason”??? $22 Billion in debt will do that to you :slight_smile:

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On Feb 6, 2014, at 8:29 AM, <bjbigpla…@…com> wrote:

There are no stories to link to, but CET is in mega-freak out mode right now for whatever reason and using gaming agents in PA, Ohio, and elsewhere as their own in-house detectives to weed out unprofitable customers or customers pushing the envelope on the rules of the players club but not otherwise committing any crime.

elaborate please

Whatever you think is the law, and whatever, objectively, the correct interpretation of the law should be, doing something that a judge or jury is likely to find outrageous is dangerous. There’s an expression–hard cases make bad law. They can screw things up for everyone.

I agree 100% with you my friend. All legal opinions aside, whatever your view may be as to whether it is fraud if you either have permission of your friend/relative to bank their freeplay or run it off for them, or whether it’s fraud if you value your privacy and choose to give a pen-name or pseudonym to the casino, action was given and in exchange for that action/play the casino mailed a designated amount of bounceback freeplay. Players and the law may view it as perfectly legal to redeem it and play under whatever name you care to play but that does not mean that the casino won’t be pissed off about it and it definitely doesn’t mean that an enterprising District Attorney who has a close relationship with Caesars Entertainment’s lawyers can’t make your life miserable and that does not mean that a court or judge won’t put you in a position to choose between a plea bargain you don’t want or huge legal bills to probably get found innocent and a small possibility of huge legal bills and a guilty verdict.