The last couple of times I played--and, especially, last week when I hit disaster for me--I had slipped over to some 3-5 multi-game machines, playing mostly 9-6 JOB. On the last day I had thought about it a bit and decided that the 'fun' of multi-game did not make it equal to single-game machines. Went back to $1 9-6 JOB and held out for hours without losing a thing. Have some of the experts figured out the odds on this? It did strike me that when I am picking out the 'holds' in the bottom row, I am not making educated 'holds' in the rows above that. True? How dumb was I? Ray
Are Multi-Game Machines Multi-Losers?
Cancel, cancel. I was being dumb when I was thinking about this. I was completely forgetting that none of the cards above the first hand had even been chosen yet! It will only take me a few more years to learn this game! Ray
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "SebensR" <sebensr@...> wrote:
The last couple of times I played--and, especially, last week when I hit disaster for me--I had slipped over to some 3-5 multi-game machines, playing mostly 9-6 JOB. On the last day I had thought about it a bit and decided that the 'fun' of multi-game did not make it equal to single-game machines. Went back to $1 9-6 JOB and held out for hours without losing a thing. Have some of the experts figured out the odds on this? It did strike me that when I am picking out the 'holds' in the bottom row, I am not making educated 'holds' in the rows above that. True? How dumb was I? Ray
The other issue is whether you were adequately bankrolled to play a multi-play machine. Bankroll for 3/5 play is going to be 50-100% higher than single line.
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:49:07 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] Are Multi-Game Machines Multi-Losers?The last couple of times I played--and, especially, last week when I hit disaster for me--I had slipped over to some 3-5 multi-game machines, playing mostly 9-6 JOB. On the last day I had thought about it a bit and decided that the 'fun' of multi-game did not make it equal to single-game machines. Went back to $1 9-6 JOB and held out for hours without losing a thing. Have some of the experts figured out the odds on this? It did strike me that when I am picking out the 'holds' in the bottom row, I am not making educated 'holds' in the rows above that. True? How dumb was I? Ray
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Since you are playing IDENTICAL dealt hands on all lines,
why would held cards be different on rows other than the
bottom row?
~Babe~
P.S. Though this is purely an anecdotal experience, when my
single-line play has taken a downward spiral, I usually move
to 3/5 multi-line 9/6 JOB. for the low variance and potential
bankroll building. This has been a succesful play for me on a
multitude of occasions.
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......It did strike me that when I am picking out the 'holds' in
the bottom row, I am not making educated 'holds' in the rows
above that. True? How dumb was I? Ray
Players overlook the importance of bankroll and instead selectively remember rare instances of great dealt hands they've had on single-line games. So, they approach multi-plays with unrealistic expectations and can get wiped out in a hurry.
Games with multipliers feed into the same fantasy. I once was playing 10 play STP, got the 5X and then cheered at a dealt 4K. But that one instance was more than offset over time by many "wasted" multipliers (with no paying hands) and the game itself depleting me with the 20% higher bet every hand. So, I don't approach STP underfinanced and "expecting" that one great hand to occur again.
My rule of thumb with multi-play is similar to Kelso's thinking: just halve the denomination to play more lines. A dollar well-financed single-line player can probably play a 50c 3/5 play and hopefully have a fighting chance.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, kelso 1600 <kelso1600@...> wrote:
The other issue is whether you were adequately bankrolled to play a >multi-play machine. Bankroll for 3/5 play is going to be 50-100% >higher than single line.
Bankroll question? If playing a 100.00% return game, 100 play 5 cent denomination, $25.00 a hand. What would be an adequate bankroll for this game. Just trying 2 get an idea of bankroll needed 4 100 play with 100% return with free play and other perks. Thanks
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, kelso 1600 <kelso1600@> wrote:
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> The other issue is whether you were adequately bankrolled to play a >multi-play machine. Bankroll for 3/5 play is going to be 50-100% >higher than single line.Players overlook the importance of bankroll and instead selectively remember rare instances of great dealt hands they've had on single-line games. So, they approach multi-plays with unrealistic expectations and can get wiped out in a hurry.
Games with multipliers feed into the same fantasy. I once was playing 10 play STP, got the 5X and then cheered at a dealt 4K. But that one instance was more than offset over time by many "wasted" multipliers (with no paying hands) and the game itself depleting me with the 20% higher bet every hand. So, I don't approach STP underfinanced and "expecting" that one great hand to occur again.
My rule of thumb with multi-play is similar to Kelso's thinking: just halve the denomination to play more lines. A dollar well-financed single-line player can probably play a 50c 3/5 play and hopefully have a fighting chance.