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APDW

#1

A couple of weeks ago I posted the differences between NSUD and APDW, and on one hand I skipped a breakdown ( or maybe I had a breakdown). Anyway, the hand in question is a 1 deuce, 1 gap 3 card straight flush versus a 1 deuce, 1 gap, 3 card ace high wild royal. Not much of a problem in NSUD, as the only preferred 1 gap straight flush draw is a 2-8T vs. a 2-KA. The ace high wild royal draw is preferred in all other combinations. In APDW however, because of the extra coin bump for straight flushes, it is not as simple. For those of you that are interested in complete accuracy, here is the list:

3 STFL 2-57 > ALL 3 W.R. ACE HI
3 STFL 2-68 < TA BUT > JA, QA, KA
3 STFL 2-79 < TA, JA BUT > QA, KA
3 STFL 2-8T < JA BUT > QA, KA
3 STFL 2-9J < TA, QA BUT > KA

These are all mickey mouse errors, but for those playing higher stakes on multilines, they can add up. Fortunately, when the choice does appear in the same hand, it's fairly rare.

On a serious note, since I've noticed lately that my memory is slipping somewhat and not what it used to be, does anyone have any recommendations for supplements or type of foods that offer improvement? Response by private email is fine. Thanks.
                                           Nudge
                                           nudge51@cox.net

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#2

nudge51 wrote:

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A couple of weeks ago I posted the differences between NSUD and APDW, and on one hand I skipped a breakdown ( or maybe I had a breakdown). Anyway, the hand in question is a 1 deuce, 1 gap 3 card straight flush versus a 1 deuce, 1 gap, 3 card ace high wild royal. Not much of a problem in NSUD, as the only preferred 1 gap straight flush draw is a 2-8T vs. a 2-KA. The ace high wild royal draw is preferred in all other combinations. In APDW however, because of the extra coin bump for straight flushes, it is not as simple. For those of you that are interested in complete accuracy, here is the list:

3 STFL 2-57 > ALL 3 W.R. ACE HI
3 STFL 2-68 < TA BUT > JA, QA, KA
3 STFL 2-79 < TA, JA BUT > QA, KA
3 STFL 2-8T < JA BUT > QA, KA
3 STFL 2-9J < TA, QA BUT > KA

These are all mickey mouse errors, but for those playing higher stakes on multilines, they can add up. Fortunately, when the choice does appear in the same hand, it's fairly rare.

On a serious note, since I've noticed lately that my memory is slipping somewhat and not what it used to be, does anyone have any recommendations for supplements or type of foods that offer improvement? Response by private email is fine. Thanks.
Nudge
nudge51@cox.net <mailto:nudge51%40cox.net>

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Blueberries or pomegranates. Even watermelon is coming on in that field. And on the medicinal side, some studies are showing statins may have positive effects.

#3

You might want to recheck a couple of those hands. Not that I'm nitpicking, I just figure if you took the time to go into this detail, you would be interested in knowing about a couple small mistakes.

3 STFL 2-57 > ALL 3 W.R. ACE HI
3 STFL 2-68 < TA BUT > JA, QA, KA
3 STFL 2-79 < TA, JA BUT > QA, KA
3 STFL 2-8T < JA BUT > QA, KA

2-8T > 2-JA. also if that A is the same suit as the 8T, you should hold the 2-TA over the 2-8T only if you are discarding a 6, 7, or 9

3 STFL 2-9J < TA, QA BUT > KA

2-9J > 2-QA. Again, if the A is the same suit as the 9J, you should hold the 2-JA over the 2-9J only if you are discarding a 7, 8, or T

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#4

You might want to recheck a couple of those hands. Not that I'm

nitpicking, I just figure if you took the time to go into this detail, you
would be interested in knowing about a couple small mistakes.

Gimp,
   We're not on the same page. I am only making my comparison to a 1 deuce,
1 gap 3 card straight flush and a 1 deuce, ace hi 3 card wild royal when
they occur in the same initial 5 card deal. There are no other discards.
                                                          Nudge

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From: "pokegimp" <wincerwj@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: APDW

#5

Usually there aren't any other discards. But if you re-read my post you'll see that the hands that I am mentioning discards occur only when the A is in the same suit as the 1 gap SF3s. So as an example:

getting dealt 2s 8h Th Ah ?? you have a 1 deuce, 1 gap SF3 (2s 8h Th) as well as a 1 deuce, ace hi RF3 (2s Th Ah). And as I mentioned in that other post, in this case you would hold the 2s Th Ah only if the ?? is a 6, 7, or 9.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nudge51" <nudge51@...> wrote:

Gimp,
   We're not on the same page. I am only making my comparison to a 1 deuce,
1 gap 3 card straight flush and a 1 deuce, ace hi 3 card wild royal when
they occur in the same initial 5 card deal. There are no other discards.
                                                          Nudge

#6

Usually there aren't any other discards. But if you re-read my post

you'll see that the hands that I am mentioning discards occur only when the
A is in the same suit as the 1 gap SF3s.

I thought that I had stated it originally, but in looking back at my posts,
I did not clarify that this hand choice referred to two different suits.
Either way, you and I both know that, same suits or not, it actually comes
down to looking for a straight penalty that affects one hold , but not the
other. Of course, then there is the exception for some holds with a
straight penalty at the limit. Like I said, I make these sheets up for the
wife and whenever I start saying "you do it this way except when you don't,
because this is at the limit and it's ok", her eyes will start to roll back
into her head. As long as I can catch the bulk of the changes with nominal
costs, I'm happy with that. Now that I know that we're on the same page,
any ideas of how to simply state what we're talking about on hands like this
on paper? And, does it really matter :-).
                                                      Nudge

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From: "pokegimp" <wincerwj@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: APDW