There aren't any constraints on political correctness, disruptiveness,
negativism etc. on FREEvpFREE but it would be nice if at least a
minimum level of civility is observed. Raunchiness steps way over
the good taste line and isn't acceptable on FvF.
vpFREE Administrator
vpFREE Administrator wrote:
There aren't any constraints on political correctness, disruptiveness,
negativism etc. on FREEvpFREE but it would be nice if at least a
minimum level of civility is observed. Raunchiness steps way over
the good taste line and isn't acceptable on FvF.
In other words, aside from providing a forum where topics peripheral
to/aside from vp can be intelligently discussed, FvF also serves as a
holding pen for those who can't manage to engage in constructive
discussion. I see those two purposes at cross purposes and self
defeating.
Limiting abusive comments to exclude "Go f*** yourself" (I assume that
this is included in the definition of "ranchiness") but permitting
comments such as "Go to hell" or aspersions such as "Monkeyboy" make
this a thoroughly disgusting forum. (While I appear to have singled
out one contributor, that's not my intent -- these are just the more
recent colorful examples.) I suppose I have no one other than myself
to blame when I occasionally tune in and and then turn away unamused
and unenlightened. I also have the poor taste to turn in fascination
when passing traffic accidents.
I hope you'll understand that I view an alternative forum where the
same decorum expected in vpFREE applies to be of greater service to
the members. Of course, I fully acknowledge that moderating a second
group is beyond the reasonable scope of the duties of the vpfree admin.
I'll simply express the opinion that the reason there's little
constructive activity these days and why, beyond self-serving spitball
throwing contests, alternative discussions wither and die when
sidelined here is because most members have long ago dismissed this forum.
I see a non-vp group that can discuss topics such as the traffic
situation in LV (or other XVP content to greater lengths) without
detracting from the direct focus of vpFREE nor having to deal with the
current predominant static to be of greater value. Personally, I'd
prefer to see abusive and contentious content sidelined to a group
such as SBvpFREE -- not that I'm personally volunteering for such a
duty, but perhaps someone with similar desire for the group might step
up to the plate.
At least put it up for a vote on vpFREE. If only 20 or so take part
than that would be a clear signal that the status quo serves just
fine. But it's a shame that the same intelligence that contributes to
the vp forum isn't provided with an alternative forum that effectively
encourages at least an equivalent level of XVP contribution as that
engaged in on vpFREE.
In keeping with the current spirit, anyone who may wish to tell me to
"go stuff myself" is fully entitled.
- Harry
Harry,
Since this forum is already your "SBvpFREE", then maybe what you're
really looking for is another forum called XVPvpFREE. However, I
really doubt our new administrator is looking for more work.
Dick
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...>
wrote:
vpFREE Administrator wrote:
> There aren't any constraints on political correctness,
disruptiveness,
> negativism etc. on FREEvpFREE but it would be nice if at least a
> minimum level of civility is observed. Raunchiness steps way over
> the good taste line and isn't acceptable on FvF.In other words, aside from providing a forum where topics peripheral
to/aside from vp can be intelligently discussed, FvF also serves as
a
holding pen for those who can't manage to engage in constructive
discussion. I see those two purposes at cross purposes and self
defeating.Limiting abusive comments to exclude "Go f*** yourself" (I assume
that
this is included in the definition of "ranchiness") but permitting
comments such as "Go to hell" or aspersions such as "Monkeyboy" make
this a thoroughly disgusting forum. (While I appear to have singled
out one contributor, that's not my intent -- these are just the more
recent colorful examples.) I suppose I have no one other than
myself
to blame when I occasionally tune in and and then turn away unamused
and unenlightened. I also have the poor taste to turn in
fascination
when passing traffic accidents.
I hope you'll understand that I view an alternative forum where the
same decorum expected in vpFREE applies to be of greater service to
the members. Of course, I fully acknowledge that moderating a
second
group is beyond the reasonable scope of the duties of the vpfree
admin.
I'll simply express the opinion that the reason there's little
constructive activity these days and why, beyond self-serving
spitball
throwing contests, alternative discussions wither and die when
sidelined here is because most members have long ago dismissed this
forum.
I see a non-vp group that can discuss topics such as the traffic
situation in LV (or other XVP content to greater lengths) without
detracting from the direct focus of vpFREE nor having to deal with
the
current predominant static to be of greater value. Personally, I'd
prefer to see abusive and contentious content sidelined to a group
such as SBvpFREE -- not that I'm personally volunteering for such a
duty, but perhaps someone with similar desire for the group might
step
up to the plate.
At least put it up for a vote on vpFREE. If only 20 or so take part
than that would be a clear signal that the status quo serves just
fine. But it's a shame that the same intelligence that contributes
to
the vp forum isn't provided with an alternative forum that
effectively
encourages at least an equivalent level of XVP contribution as that
engaged in on vpFREE.In keeping with the current spirit, anyone who may wish to tell me
to
"go stuff myself" is fully entitled.
- Harry