I know Mohegan's offerings of full pay JOB and Pickem are the best VP in Conn...but without the benefits of tier score or points, I find I want to pull out my ticket as soon as I am ahead a few bucks, or behind a few bucks...and I am the gambler in the family )-:
They spoiled us, I guess, with the hope of winning, but also the promise of fun perks even if we didn't win...
I see that all the machines in the high limit room, Earth Side, of which some were formerly short pay, all have at least full pay JOB. None give any player club points. But I miss the points and perks!!!
Any ideas for tier score/points for Mohegan Sun VP play?
soooooooooooooo, that makes the play A NET LOOSER, DOESN"T IT???
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--- On Fri, 11/18/11, carolenny2002 <carolenny@aol.com> wrote:
From: carolenny2002 <carolenny@aol.com>
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Any ideas for tier score/points for Mohegan Sun VP play?
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 18, 2011, 11:25 PM
I know Mohegan's offerings of full pay JOB and Pickem are the best VP in Conn...but without the benefits of tier score or points, I find I want to pull out my ticket as soon as I am ahead a few bucks, or behind a few bucks...and I am the gambler in the family )-:
They spoiled us, I guess, with the hope of winning, but also the promise of fun perks even if we didn't win...
I see that all the machines in the high limit room, Earth Side, of which some were formerly short pay, all have at least full pay JOB. None give any player club points. But I miss the points and perks!!!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
What I have been told is if you play the fp games, they will rate you like they used to before tier pts. In other words if your theo is high enough you can still make sag or sachem. It sounds like you are playing for a short time and will probably have a low theo and not make it. My wife and I are done with any serious play there. We might play .25 every once in a while as the risk reward ratio is no longer there.
Mel
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "carolenny2002" <carolenny@...> wrote:
I know Mohegan's offerings of full pay JOB and Pickem are the best VP in Conn...but without the benefits of tier score or points, I find I want to pull out my ticket as soon as I am ahead a few bucks, or behind a few bucks...and I am the gambler in the family )-:
They spoiled us, I guess, with the hope of winning, but also the promise of fun perks even if we didn't win...
I see that all the machines in the high limit room, Earth Side, of which some were formerly short pay, all have at least full pay JOB. None give any player club points. But I miss the points and perks!!!
Except that with the massive theo downgrade they put through about a year ago (estimated @ ~70%), that looks like you'd have to run through multiple millions in coin-in to get any ratings at all. I base that assumption on the $480,000 coin-in you need for a six-month Sagamore rating. Using the DDB EV of 97.87 (9/5), that means at the full theo of 2.13%, you'd have a theo loss of $10224 for the six months. 9/6 JOB would give you $2208 on the same amount of play, and I'm sure they'd want at least 4 or 5 times that to give you Sagamore, even though they're not giving you anything else that you'd normally be able to get with your points.
Of course they will (supposedly) rate you as a Sachem for a mere loss (actual) of 30K. I didn't bother to inquire whether that was for 6 or 12 months.
At this point it is at the stage where you use your Sagamore or Sachem benefits until March (for lounge access, free rooms, shows, etc), spend all your remaining points on shopping, and prepare for the bridge-burning ceremony on April Fool's Day.
Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein
________________________________
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:21 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Any ideas for tier score/points for Mohegan Sun VP play?What I have been told is if you play the fp games, they will rate you like they used to before tier pts. In other words if your theo is high enough you can still make sag or sachem. It sounds like you are playing for a short time and will probably have a low theo and not make it. My wife and I are done with any serious play there. We might play .25 every once in a while as the risk reward ratio is no longer there.
Mel
I know Mohegan's offerings of full pay JOB and Pickem are the best VP in Conn...but without the benefits of tier score or points, I find I want to pull out my ticket as soon as I am ahead a few bucks, or behind a few bucks...and I am the gambler in the family )-:
They spoiled us, I guess, with the hope of winning, but also the promise of fun perks even if we didn't win...
I see that all the machines in the high limit room, Earth Side, of which some were formerly short pay, all have at least full pay JOB. None give any player club points. But I miss the points and perks!!!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "carolenny2002" <carolenny@...> wrote:
Yes, it seems that there is no reward at all unless, MAYBE, IF they feel like it and IF you lose a bundle.
If you are a big loser, they MAY give you the free rooms and food that could bring you back ...or they might not, at whim...
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
Except that with the massive theo downgrade they put through about a year ago (estimated @ ~70%), that looks like you'd have to run through multiple millions in coin-in to get any ratings at all. I base that assumption on the $480,000 coin-in you need for a six-month Sagamore rating. Using the DDB EV of 97.87 (9/5), that means at the full theo of 2.13%, you'd have a theo loss of $10224 for the six months. 9/6 JOB would give you $2208 on the same amount of play, and I'm sure they'd want at least 4 or 5 times that to give you Sagamore, even though they're not giving you anything else that you'd normally be able to get with your points.
Of course they will (supposedly) rate you as a Sachem for a mere loss (actual) of 30K. I didn't bother to inquire whether that was for 6 or 12 months.Â
At this point it is at the stage where you use your Sagamore or Sachem benefits until March (for lounge access, free rooms, shows, etc), spend all your remaining points on shopping, and prepare for the bridge-burning ceremony on April Fool's Day.
Â
Certainly the game is rigged. Donât let that stop you; if you donât bet, you canât win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein>________________________________
> From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...>
>To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:21 PM
>Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Any ideas for tier score/points for Mohegan Sun VP play?
>
>
>Â
>What I have been told is if you play the fp games, they will rate you like they used to before tier pts. In other words if your theo is high enough you can still make sag or sachem. It sounds like you are playing for a short time and will probably have a low theo and not make it. My wife and I are done with any serious play there. We might play .25 every once in a while as the risk reward ratio is no longer there.
>
>Mel
>
I am in agreement. We will still have free rooms until the next qualifiying period and then it is goodbye. I didn't recommend playing a lot to get sag or sachem just that it is still possible. Their new philosopy is lose 5g and we will give you a $200 comp. Win and don't expect anything. They have become the evil empire
Mel
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
Except that with the massive theo downgrade they put through about a year ago (estimated @ ~70%), that looks like you'd have to run through multiple millions in coin-in to get any ratings at all. I base that assumption on the $480,000 coin-in you need for a six-month Sagamore rating. Using the DDB EV of 97.87 (9/5), that means at the full theo of 2.13%, you'd have a theo loss of $10224 for the six months. 9/6 JOB would give you $2208 on the same amount of play, and I'm sure they'd want at least 4 or 5 times that to give you Sagamore, even though they're not giving you anything else that you'd normally be able to get with your points.
Of course they will (supposedly) rate you as a Sachem for a mere loss (actual) of 30K. I didn't bother to inquire whether that was for 6 or 12 months.Â
At this point it is at the stage where you use your Sagamore or Sachem benefits until March (for lounge access, free rooms, shows, etc), spend all your remaining points on shopping, and prepare for the bridge-burning ceremony on April Fool's Day.
Â
Certainly the game is rigged. Donât let that stop you; if you donât bet, you canât win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein>________________________________
> From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...>
>To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:21 PM
>Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Any ideas for tier score/points for Mohegan Sun VP play?
>
>
>Â
>What I have been told is if you play the fp games, they will rate you like they used to before tier pts. In other words if your theo is high enough you can still make sag or sachem. It sounds like you are playing for a short time and will probably have a low theo and not make it. My wife and I are done with any serious play there. We might play .25 every once in a while as the risk reward ratio is no longer there.
>
>Mel
>
>--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "carolenny2002" <carolenny@> wrote:
>>
>> I know Mohegan's offerings of full pay JOB and Pickem are the best VP in Conn...but without the benefits of tier score or points, I find I want to pull out my ticket as soon as I am ahead a few bucks, or behind a few bucks...and I am the gambler in the family )-:
>> They spoiled us, I guess, with the hope of winning, but also the promise of fun perks even if we didn't win...
>> I see that all the machines in the high limit room, Earth Side, of which some were formerly short pay, all have at least full pay JOB. None give any player club points. But I miss the points and perks!!!
>>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yes, it seems that there is no reward at all unless, MAYBE, IF they feel like it and IF you lose a bundle.
If you are a big loser, they MAY give you the free rooms and food that could bring you back ...or they might not, at whim...
Thanks for the advice and info...it is hard to quit something like this, and I'm sure MS could confirm my contributions over the years if they care to do so, but in cold reality I have no reason to continue there....
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
Except that with the massive theo downgrade they put through about a year ago (estimated @ ~70%), that looks like you'd have to run through multiple millions in coin-in to get any ratings at all. I base that assumption on the $480,000 coin-in you need for a six-month Sagamore rating. Using the DDB EV of 97.87 (9/5), that means at the full theo of 2.13%, you'd have a theo loss of $10224 for the six months. 9/6 JOB would give you $2208 on the same amount of play, and I'm sure they'd want at least 4 or 5 times that to give you Sagamore, even though they're not giving you anything else that you'd normally be able to get with your points.
Of course they will (supposedly) rate you as a Sachem for a mere loss (actual) of 30K. I didn't bother to inquire whether that was for 6 or 12 months.Â
At this point it is at the stage where you use your Sagamore or Sachem benefits until March (for lounge access, free rooms, shows, etc), spend all your remaining points on shopping, and prepare for the bridge-burning ceremony on April Fool's Day.
Â
Certainly the game is rigged. Donât let that stop you; if you donât bet, you canât win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein>________________________________
> From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...>
>To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:21 PM
>Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Any ideas for tier score/points for Mohegan Sun VP play?
>
>
>Â
>What I have been told is if you play the fp games, they will rate you like they used to before tier pts. In other words if your theo is high enough you can still make sag or sachem. It sounds like you are playing for a short time and will probably have a low theo and not make it. My wife and I are done with any serious play there. We might play .25 every once in a while as the risk reward ratio is no longer there.
>
>Mel
>
Why [be in a hurry to] spend all your remaining points?
Are there rumors that points will be seized / must be forefeited ?
It's been my understanding that ANY gaming activity within a 6-month rolling period will stop your points from expiring.
Is that correct ?
What exactly constintutes "gaming activity" anyway?
My host told me "just stick your card in a machine and play 1 hand".
Same host also told me that I wouldn't be affected by the software upgrade. Yeh, right.
[Snip]
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
At this point it is at the stage where you use your Sagamore or Sachem benefits until March (for lounge access, free rooms, shows, etc), spend all your remaining points on shopping, and prepare for the bridge-burning ceremony on April Fool's Day.
I'm not saying to "be in a hurry", just thinking through the logical (at least in MS management's mind, such as it is) possible ramifications of severely reduced play. There was an anecdotal report of someone, I believe named Chris, who had his earned Sagamore status reduced to Wolf as a result of lack of play, while taking advantage of shows, FR, and in his case, as I remember it, free rooms.
Assume you have XXX points, and your status as Sagamore or Sachem until April. You take advantage of the privileges of your status, but don't give them much, or any play. They can obviously cut your status, meaning no free rooms, and no lounge access. So to use your remaining points, you either need to make day trips (assuming proximity) and be willing to spend points for all your food/drink, or worse, have to use some of your points for over-priced rooms.
My point is that you need to strike a balance between how quickly you use your points and how much play you're willing to give them until your balance runs down to zero. What you don't want (IMHO) is to reach the point where you have remaining points, but must use all of them to pay for the trip you need to take to use them. For example, if you have 200 points left, and you need to have a room for an overnight trip, then figuring even at a preferred rate of say $129 plus tax and charges, plus $40 or 50 for food, it doesn't make the trip worthwhile, absent other things like a giveaway or substantial FP. And since you lost status, what are the odds of those being available? So 200 points can just be flushed, rather than used to buy something.
Everyone's circumstances are different, of course, so YMMV.
Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein
________________________________
Why [be in a hurry to] spend all your remaining points?
Are there rumors that points will be seized / must be forefeited ?
It's been my understanding that ANY gaming activity within a 6-month rolling period will stop your points from expiring.
Is that correct ?
What exactly constintutes "gaming activity" anyway?
My host told me "just stick your card in a machine and play 1 hand".
Same host also told me that I wouldn't be affected by the software upgrade. Yeh, right.[Snip]
At this point it is at the stage where you use your Sagamore or Sachem benefits until March (for lounge access, free rooms, shows, etc), spend all your remaining points on shopping, and prepare for the bridge-burning ceremony on April Fool's Day.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I think it's because a lot of board members had already played to keep their tier level(Wolf. Sag..Sach etc. valid till March 31), before the devastation and since they won't be playing there anymore want to use their pts. within that 6 month time period so that at least when they're at MS they will get the tier perks e.g., free rooms, concerts, lounge access. Points themselves are good for a year since your last play activity.
Larry F.
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "cdfsrule" <cdfsrule@...> wrote:
Why [be in a hurry to] spend all your remaining points?
Are there rumors that points will be seized / must be forefeited ?
It's been my understanding that ANY gaming activity within a 6-month rolling period will stop your points from expiring.
thebest use of pts is thru the travel agency. We use them for flights and it is about 1.6 to 1. It is the best deal by far.
Mel
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
I'm not saying to "be in a hurry", just thinking through the logical (at least in MS management's mind, such as it is) possible ramifications of severely reduced play. There was an anecdotal report of someone, I believe named Chris, who had his earned Sagamore status reduced to Wolf as a result of lack of play, while taking advantage of shows, FR, and in his case, as I remember it, free rooms.
Assume you have XXX points, and your status as Sagamore or Sachem until April. You take advantage of the privileges of your status, but don't give them much, or any play. They can obviously cut your status, meaning no free rooms, and no lounge access. So to use your remaining points, you either need to make day trips (assuming proximity) and be willing to spend points for all your food/drink, or worse, have to use some of your points for over-priced rooms.Â
My point is that you need to strike a balance between how quickly you use your points and how much play you're willing to give them until your balance runs down to zero. What you don't want (IMHO) is to reach the point where you have remaining points, but must use all of them to pay for the trip you need to take to use them. For example, if you have 200 points left, and you need to have a room for an overnight trip, then figuring even at a preferred rate of say $129 plus tax and charges, plus $40 or 50 for food, it doesn't make the trip worthwhile, absent other things like a giveaway or substantial FP. And since you lost status, what are the odds of those being available? So 200 points can just be flushed, rather than used to buy something.
Everyone's circumstances are different, of course, so YMMV.
Â
Certainly the game is rigged. Donât let that stop you; if you donât bet, you canât win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein>________________________________
>
>
>Â
>Why [be in a hurry to] spend all your remaining points?
>Are there rumors that points will be seized / must be forefeited ?
>It's been my understanding that ANY gaming activity within a 6-month rolling period will stop your points from expiring.
>Is that correct ?
>What exactly constintutes "gaming activity" anyway?
>My host told me "just stick your card in a machine and play 1 hand".
>Same host also told me that I wouldn't be affected by the software upgrade. Yeh, right.
>
>>
>[Snip]Â
>>
>> At this point it is at the stage where you use your Sagamore or Sachem benefits until March (for lounge access, free rooms, shows, etc), spend all your remaining points on shopping, and prepare for the bridge-burning ceremony on April Fool's Day.
>>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
thebest use of pts is thru the travel agency. We use them for flights and it is about 1.6 to 1. It is the best deal by far.
Mel
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
I'm not saying to "be in a hurry", just thinking through the logical (at least in MS management's mind, such as it is) possible ramifications of severely reduced play. There was an anecdotal report of someone, I believe named Chris, who had his earned Sagamore status reduced to Wolf as a result of lack of play, while taking advantage of shows, FR, and in his case, as I remember it, free rooms.
Assume you have XXX points, and your status as Sagamore or Sachem until April. You take advantage of the privileges of your status, but don't give them much, or any play. They can obviously cut your status, meaning no free rooms, and no lounge access. So to use your remaining points, you either need to make day trips (assuming proximity) and be willing to spend points for all your food/drink, or worse, have to use some of your points for over-priced rooms.Â
My point is that you need to strike a balance between how quickly you use your points and how much play you're willing to give them until your balance runs down to zero. What you don't want (IMHO) is to reach the point where you have remaining points, but must use all of them to pay for the trip you need to take to use them. For example, if you have 200 points left, and you need to have a room for an overnight trip, then figuring even at a preferred rate of say $129 plus tax and charges, plus $40 or 50 for food, it doesn't make the trip worthwhile, absent other things like a giveaway or substantial FP. And since you lost status, what are the odds of those being available? So 200 points can just be flushed, rather than used to buy something.
Everyone's circumstances are different, of course, so YMMV.
Â
Certainly the game is rigged. Donât let that stop you; if you donât bet, you canât win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein>________________________________
>
>
>Â
>Why [be in a hurry to] spend all your remaining points?
>Are there rumors that points will be seized / must be forefeited ?
>It's been my understanding that ANY gaming activity within a 6-month rolling period will stop your points from expiring.
>Is that correct ?
>What exactly constintutes "gaming activity" anyway?
>My host told me "just stick your card in a machine and play 1 hand".
>Same host also told me that I wouldn't be affected by the software upgrade. Yeh, right.
>
>>
>[Snip]Â
>>
>> At this point it is at the stage where you use your Sagamore or Sachem benefits until March (for lounge access, free rooms, shows, etc), spend all your remaining points on shopping, and prepare for the bridge-burning ceremony on April Fool's Day.
>>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
It's been a while since I used Sun Travel. Last time, I beleive I effectively got $0.50 per point. That is, something that would have cost $100, I would have had to pay 200 points. I must have got screwed (or maybe things changed)!
FWIW, I've used Sun T. only when I would have otherwise had to pay full fare (or close to it). In my experience, decent discount online fares usually make $0.50/pnt (on undiscounted rates) a not-so-good deal.
So.. Is 1.6 : 1 ( which I assume is $0.625 per point) the new norm for travel?
If not, Is there anything I need to do the get that rate?
(and if it is $1.60 per point, holy crap! I guess An around the world trip is in my future!)
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
thebest use of pts is thru the travel agency. We use them for flights and it is about 1.6 to 1. It is the best deal by far.
Mel
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@> wrote:
>
> I'm not saying to "be in a hurry", just thinking through the logical (at least in MS management's mind, such as it is) possible ramifications of severely reduced play. There was an anecdotal report of someone, I believe named Chris, who had his earned Sagamore status reduced to Wolf as a result of lack of play, while taking advantage of shows, FR, and in his case, as I remember it, free rooms.
Last time I checked, maybe 6 months ago, the charge was 1.5 to 1 for any
reservation (plane, train, hotel, etc.) plus $35 (point) charge for each
reservation. Thus if you booked a $400 flight and one night in a hotel for
$180, they would charge you 940 points (400+180 x 1.5 +35 +35).
That, at least, is the way I understood it. Decided not to book at the time.
This was before their rollbacks so not sure if anything has changed.
So.. Is 1.6 : 1 ( which I assume is $0.625 per point) the new norm for
travel?
If not, Is there anything I need to do the get that rate?
(and if it is $1.60 per point, holy crap! I guess An around the world trip
is in my future!)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
You can give Sun Travel the flts that you want to take and get the best discounted fare. They will charge you 1.5 points per $1 plus a 50 point ticketing fee. If you take a different airline on the return flt that's another 50 point ticketing fee. Still not a bad use of points. I used them all the time when I earned points 
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________________________________
From: cdfsrule <cdfsrule@gmail.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Any ideas for tier score/points for Mohegan Sun VP play?
It's been a while since I used Sun Travel. Last time, I beleive I effectively got $0.50 per point. That is, something that would have cost $100, I would have had to pay 200 points. I must have got screwed (or maybe things changed)!
FWIW, I've used Sun T. only when I would have otherwise had to pay full fare (or close to it). In my experience, decent discount online fares usually make $0.50/pnt (on undiscounted rates) a not-so-good deal.
So.. Is 1.6 : 1 ( which I assume is $0.625 per point) the new norm for travel?
If not, Is there anything I need to do the get that rate?
(and if it is $1.60 per point, holy crap! I guess An around the world trip is in my future!)
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
thebest use of pts is thru the travel agency. We use them for flights and it is about 1.6 to 1. It is the best deal by far.
Mel
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@> wrote:
>
> I'm not saying to "be in a hurry", just thinking through the logical (at least in MS management's mind, such as it is) possible ramifications of severely reduced play. There was an anecdotal report of someone, I believe named Chris, who had his earned Sagamore status reduced to Wolf as a result of lack of play, while taking advantage of shows, FR, and in his case, as I remember it, free rooms.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Back in the day, there was a player's club member buying multiple Roombas at Brookstone and reselling them on EBAY. And there was another buying ROLEX watches and bringing them to a shop in NYC.
And there was the gold bullion scandal at the store with the big aquarium..... 
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...> wrote:
You can give Sun Travel the flts that you want to take and get the best discounted fare. They will charge you 1.5 points per $1 plus a 50 point ticketing fee. If you take a different airline on the return flt that's another 50 point ticketing fee. Still not a bad use of points. I used them all the time when I earned points
________________________________
From: cdfsrule <cdfsrule@...>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: Any ideas for tier score/points for Mohegan Sun VP play?Â
It's been a while since I used Sun Travel. Last time, I beleive I effectively got $0.50 per point. That is, something that would have cost $100, I would have had to pay 200 points. I must have got screwed (or maybe things changed)!FWIW, I've used Sun T. only when I would have otherwise had to pay full fare (or close to it). In my experience, decent discount online fares usually make $0.50/pnt (on undiscounted rates) a not-so-good deal.
So.. Is 1.6 : 1 ( which I assume is $0.625 per point) the new norm for travel?
If not, Is there anything I need to do the get that rate?
(and if it is $1.60 per point, holy crap! I guess An around the world trip is in my future!)--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
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> thebest use of pts is thru the travel agency. We use them for flights and it is about 1.6 to 1. It is the best deal by far.
> Mel
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@> wrote:
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> > I'm not saying to "be in a hurry", just thinking through the logical (at least in MS management's mind, such as it is) possible ramifications of severely reduced play. There was an anecdotal report of someone, I believe named Chris, who had his earned Sagamore status reduced to Wolf as a result of lack of play, while taking advantage of shows, FR, and in his case, as I remember it, free rooms.
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And now you can "launder" your $40 Holiday Gift for 14 Ravioli at Ballo's. Yes, my friends, the times they have a'changed.
Back in the day, there was a player's club member buying multiple Roombas at Brookstone and reselling them on EBAY. And there was another buying ROLEX watches and bringing them to a shop in NYC.
And there was the gold bullion scandal at the store with the big aquarium.....
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