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An AP question

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<guruperf@...> wrote:

Here is one thing that is absolutely certain about "pulling the card": there is

now a way that is being used to prevent your wins from being hidden by the card
pull. I discovered this on one of the Norwegian cruise ships. As long as there
are credits left in the machine, pulling the card does not matter. All plays,
wins, and losses will continue to accrue to the person whose card was last in
the machine. So pulling a card with trip Aces won't have any effect- you might
as well leave it in. Only cashing out the machine will stop their following of
your play, and you can't do that in the middle of a hand.

When this will hit land-based casinos, I don't know - I haven't seen it there

yet, but it is definitely there on at least one Norwegian ship, more probably
all of them.

The card readers at the Rampart Casino in Las Vegas act just the way you described it. If you remove your card while there are still credits on the machine, the card reader says "Carded Session in Progress". The Palms also used this system for a few years, but I'm not sure if they still do. There are probably other casinos doing it also.

#2

I got away with pulling my Rockstar card at the Hard Rock for years while playing fullpay Video Poker and got away with murder. I'm still a very small player, but they had me pegged for losing 5 thousand per trip. I was treated very well before they changed systems a few years ago.

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#3

"...> Here is one thing that is absolutely certain about "pulling the card": there is now a way that is being used to prevent your wins from being hidden by the card pull. I discovered this on one of the Norwegian cruise ships..."

Four ways you discovered this on the cruise:
1) The card reader displayed a message to effect: "WTF don't bother."
2) You asked
3) Another player mentioned it to you.
4) Casino security surrounded you as constant card pulling was picked up by cameras and you didn't have your lucky rabbit feet displayed. Where would they put you if your on a cruise ship and have been read the trespassed paragraphs?

When this software option became widely available, several casinos activated the message display option. Most don't display the message even though pulling your card has no effect.

Laughlin River Palms had the WTF message displayed after several years into our many visits to gamble at the 10/7 Double Bonus multi-strike; the crack cocaine of video poker. 10 years ago. We were dissapointed.

Advances in casino software is interesting. There's little deep knowledge on the internet. There's also casino mgmt/staffing human resources factors which can provide a gambler an advantage.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vp_a_gogo@...> wrote:

<guruperf@> wrote:

> Here is one thing that is absolutely certain about "pulling the card": there is
now a way that is being used to prevent your wins from being hidden by the card
pull. I discovered this on one of the Norwegian cruise ships. As long as there
are credits left in the machine, pulling the card does not matter. All plays,
wins, and losses will continue to accrue to the person whose card was last in
the machine. So pulling a card with trip Aces won't have any effect- you might
as well leave it in. Only cashing out the machine will stop their following of
your play, and you can't do that in the middle of a hand.

> When this will hit land-based casinos, I don't know - I haven't seen it there
yet, but it is definitely there on at least one Norwegian ship, more probably
all of them.

The card readers at the Rampart Casino in Las Vegas act just the way you described it. If you remove your card while there are still credits on the machine, the card reader says "Carded Session in Progress". The Palms also used this system for a few years, but I'm not sure if they still do. There are probably other casinos doing it also.