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Am I doomed already?

Hi

I just read a recent post by Ron Singer.he is controversial but he is worth
a view.

Ralph

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Hi

I just read a recent post by Ron Singer.he is controversial but he

is worth

a view.

Please do not direct newbies to look at the
Singer approach. They may be misled.
Singer is about as controversial as 2 + 2 = 3.1415

QZ

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, BANDSTAND54@A... wrote:

I don't understand your comments here. Everybody should always be compelled to evaluate as much information as they can get and draw the conclusions on a playing style that fit their particular playing habits.

I have no problem with your dislike of the Singer Strategy, but I don’t think that we should not direct people to it because of a disagreement with that approach. While I appreciate and respect your playing abilities and your excellent grip of the math, what is good for you might not be good for others, but most of all let them read and decide.

Hi

I just read a recent post by Ron Singer.he is controversial but he

is worth

a view.

Please do not direct newbies to look at the
Singer approach. They may be misled.
Singer is about as controversial as 2 + 2 = 3.1415

QZ

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I think the concern was not for sending people to Robs site, but for sending
Newbies to Robs Site.
To the inexperienced, Robs Siren Song can sound mighty inviting. Until
someone has the tools and experience to evaluate those things that he
supports, they should be protected from dangerous things.
Would you send a child to a drug dealer and ask that child to come to their
own conclusion if the drugs are for them ?

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nthumphrey" <nthumphrey@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Am I doomed already?

I don't understand your comments here. Everybody should always be compelled
to evaluate as much information as they can get and draw the conclusions on
a playing style that fit their particular playing habits.

I have no problem with your dislike of the Singer Strategy, but I don't
think that we should not direct people to it because of a disagreement with
that approach. While I appreciate and respect your playing abilities and
your excellent grip of the math, what is good for you might not be good for
others, but most of all let them read and decide.

I don't understand your comments here. Everybody should always be

compelled to evaluate as much information as they can get and draw
the conclusions on a playing style that fit their particular playing
habits.

I have no problem with your dislike of the Singer Strategy, but I

don't think that we should not direct people to it because of a
disagreement with that approach. While I appreciate and respect your
playing abilities and your excellent grip of the math, what is good
for you might not be good for others, but most of all let them read
and decide.

I tend to agree ... and doubt little harm will result.

A playing style that depends heavily on luck and requires an
unlimited bankroll has little appeal to the average player trying to
gain a realistic modest edge. It ("Strategy") also nicely
illustrates how even an intelligent player can lose focus in the face
of mounting losses.

In that vein, you really have to admire a player like Ednar who can
stay the course and play under control during difficult times ... I'm
pulling for you buddy!

2-W

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, nthumphrey <nthumphrey@y...> wrote:

I think the concern was not for sending people to Robs site, but

for sending

Newbies to Robs Site.
To the inexperienced, Robs Siren Song can sound mighty inviting.

Until

someone has the tools and experience to evaluate those things that

he

supports, they should be protected from dangerous things.
Would you send a child to a drug dealer and ask that child to come

to their

own conclusion if the drugs are for them ?

Regards
A.P.

  Albert,

   I just finished Rob's book "The Undeniable Truth about Video
Poker." Very interesting. Not an epic that will go down in the annals
of gambling history, but worth reading. Some new Ideas to ponder, and
some ideas I will ignore. But the key word here is "ideas."
   I don't quite get the analogy that somehow we superior, perfect
play video poker players have a sacred duty to protect those
childlike, ignorant newbies from such an evil person as Mr. Singer
who's trying to hook them on some evil, druglike strategy. I think
most adults vp players smart enough to be reading the material in
this chat room can take care of themselves.
   There are tons of books on video poker with tons of advice(some
good, some bad) that isn't 100% the way the video poker Gods say to
play, but millions of gamblers read and learn something from them
anyway.
   Mr. Singer seems to stress in his book a lot of compassion for the
players who think that just because a game is positive, and if they
play computer perfect, they will win lots of money in the long run.
We all know it ain't necessarily so.
   For the most part, his advice is nothing more than one person's
point of view of how to play a casino game for fun, and if you are
lucky, and yes skillful, for profit. Check out a few quotes from the
book. (I don't think he'll mind)

   "My system is really nothing more than common sense, combined with
an extremely solid dose of willpower. Luck is of course mandatory."
                       --Rob Singer

   "Training yourself when to leave a loser is far more difficult
than figuring out when to leave a winner."
                       --Rob Singer
                      
   "Luck plays a far greater role in video poker success than any
form of winning strategy ever conceived."
                        --Rob Singer

   Good luck to you, Terry Murphy & VP Pappy (midwestcasinoguide.com)

   "The best strategy for beating a casino, is to stay the hell out
of them."
                      --VP Pappy

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@s...> wrote:

vppappy :
I will have to cease any other communications discussing Rob's strategies etc. as this is frowned upon in this forum, and I agree with that position.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: vppappy
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:55 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Am I doomed already?

    Albert,

     I just finished Rob's book "The Undeniable Truth about Video
  Poker." Very interesting. Not an epic that will go down in the annals
  of gambling history, but worth reading. Some new Ideas to ponder, and
  some ideas I will ignore. But the key word here is "ideas."
     I don't quite get the analogy that somehow we superior, perfect
  play video poker players have a sacred duty to protect those
  childlike, ignorant newbies from such an evil person as Mr. Singer
  who's trying to hook them on some evil, druglike strategy. I think
  most adults vp players smart enough to be reading the material in
  this chat room can take care of themselves.
     There are tons of books on video poker with tons of advice(some
  good, some bad) that isn't 100% the way the video poker Gods say to
  play, but millions of gamblers read and learn something from them
  anyway.
     Mr. Singer seems to stress in his book a lot of compassion for the
  players who think that just because a game is positive, and if they
  play computer perfect, they will win lots of money in the long run.
  We all know it ain't necessarily so.
     For the most part, his advice is nothing more than one person's
  point of view of how to play a casino game for fun, and if you are
  lucky, and yes skillful, for profit. Check out a few quotes from the
  book. (I don't think he'll mind)

     "My system is really nothing more than common sense, combined with
  an extremely solid dose of willpower. Luck is of course mandatory."
                         --Rob Singer

     "Training yourself when to leave a loser is far more difficult
  than figuring out when to leave a winner."
                         --Rob Singer
                        
     "Luck plays a far greater role in video poker success than any
  form of winning strategy ever conceived."
                          --Rob Singer

     Good luck to you, Terry Murphy & VP Pappy (midwestcasinoguide.com)

     "The best strategy for beating a casino, is to stay the hell out
  of them."
                        --VP Pappy

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