vpFREE2 Forums

Alternate Strategies

#1

Steve,

  A few years ago I posted results here from what I called max-royal
strategy for 107/ DB. If you play 10/7 DB using the strategy for 101% DB
(5647 coin royal) the new EV is 100.08% and the royal cycle is reduced from
48048 to 35833. For 9/6 JB I used the strategy for 100% (3880 coins) to play
9/6 JB and reduced the royal cycle to 35939 with an EV of 99.51%. I just
noticed that this is the same royal value that you show for 9/6 JB min-cost.
Because these numbers match for 9/6 JB I was wondering if you looked at 10/7
DB? I find it interesting that we had different objectives and hit on the
same number. My method was crude. For each game I used 100% to 110% royal in
1% increments and compared the numbers.

When you have time :slight_smile:

5-card

Steve Jacobs wrote:

I started a new job recently, and that combined with other demands have
left me with very little free time. I don't even fire up my computer every
day, whereas I used to get online at least in the morning and in the evening
every day. Still, I try to keep and eye out for discussions that might
relate
to alternate strategies :wink:

#2

Steve,

  A few years ago I posted results here from what I called max-royal
strategy for 107/ DB. If you play 10/7 DB using the strategy for 101% DB
(5647 coin royal) the new EV is 100.08% and the royal cycle is reduced from
48048 to 35833. For 9/6 JB I used the strategy for 100% (3880 coins) to
play 9/6 JB and reduced the royal cycle to 35939 with an EV of 99.51%. I
just noticed that this is the same royal value that you show for 9/6 JB
min-cost. Because these numbers match for 9/6 JB I was wondering if you
looked at 10/7 DB?

I've done quite a few alternate strategies for 10/7 DB. But, none of the ones
I've tried give a royal cycle of 35833. The min-cost(royal) strategy has a
royal cycle of 50010 and the best-shot(royal) strategy has a cycle of 37138.
The best-shot(royal) strategy gives the best chance of having a bankroll
survive until hitting a royal, while the min-cost(royal) strategy loses the
least amount on average between royal flush payoffs. If your objective
was something different than one of those, let me know and I'll see if I
can produce a solution.

I find it interesting that we had different objectives
and hit on the same number. My method was crude. For each game I used 100%
to 110% royal in 1% increments and compared the numbers.

I know of several cases where different objectives result in the same
strategy. One example from DB 10/7 is playing to minimize the average
cost between payoffs for quad 2's, 3's or 4's. The optimal strategy for this
objective is identical to max-EV strategy!

···

On Thursday 20 July 2006 9:39 pm, 5-card wrote: