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I was dealt A K 10 5 clubs....10 spades I attempted to discard 5c and 10s
and go for the Royal. I got a warning this was not the best play. According
to WP..I should go for the flush and discard the 10s.

I then subsituted the 5s for the 10s to see what would happen. Now it was OK
to go for the Royal and discard two cards.

Can someone explain this to me if you can understand my situation.

Ralph

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The hand you describe fits a well-known penalty card situation in
Jacks or Better, so I assume that's what you were playing.

If you are dealt four suited cards of the form AHTx (where x is 9 or
lower), you should draw to the FL4 if the fifth, unsuited card is T,
J, Q, or K. Otherwise, you should draw to the RF3.

I was dealt A K 10 5 clubs....10 spades I attempted to discard

5c and 10s

and go for the Royal. I got a warning this was not the best play.

According

to WP..I should go for the flush and discard the 10s.

I then subsituted the 5s for the 10s to see what would happen. Now

it was OK

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to go for the Royal and discard two cards.

Can someone explain this to me if you can understand my situation.

Ralph

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This looks like standard "perfect" strategy for 9/6 JoB.

4 to a flush beats 3 to a royal if the royal contains A and T and the
unsuited card is a T or a straight penalty card.

Playing 3 to the royal would have both a flush penalty and either a
straight penalty or a pair penalty (on your case it's the pair
penalty), and it's a 2-gap straight, so it's a poor 3-to-a-royal,
whereas 4 to the flush has 2 high cards, so it's a good flush. Working
out the numbers the flush ends up being very slightly better (it can
be done by hand if you're a bit patient).

If you replace 10s by 5s, you've only created a low pair, which is a
worse play that both 3-to-a-royal or 4-to-a-flush, but you've removed
a pair penalty card for 3-to-a-royal and that tips the balance in its
favor.

JBQ

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I was dealt A K 10 5 clubs....10 spades I attempted to discard 5c and 10s
and go for the Royal. I got a warning this was not the best play. According
to WP..I should go for the flush and discard the 10s.

I then subsituted the 5s for the 10s to see what would happen. Now it was OK
to go for the Royal and discard two cards.

Can someone explain this to me if you can understand my situation.

Ralph

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I was dealt A K 10 5 clubs....10 spades I attempted to discard 5c

and 10s and go for the Royal. I got a warning this was not the best
play. According to WP..I should go for the flush and discard the 10s.

IF you were playing 9/6 JOB, there is an exception to the rule of
always going for a 3 card Royal vs. a 4 card flush, and it is the type
of hand in your example. If the 3 card Royal contains both and Ace and
a Ten, AND you have a flush penalty, AND you have an honor card penalty
(i.e. fifth card is 10 or higher), then the expectation for the 4 card
flush is slightly higher than the 3 card Royal. You won't be giving up
too much if you ignore this exception.

On the other hand, in some games such as Double Bonus, it is very
common to prefer a 4 card flush to a 3 card Royal.

EE

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