Apparently shots have been fired from the vicinity of Mandalay Bay or possibly out of that hotel into the crowd attending Route 91 Harvest Festival (country music festival) , Outside concert held opposite the Luxor hotel and that vacinity. Traffic on the strip is now closed. Stay away from that area and indoors. Stay tuned to local Vegas news for more information. As of midnight police are reporting a suspect is down…but these are preliminary reports.
ACTIVE SHOOTER ON STRIP - Sunday night
According to a CNN report, he was a $100 a hand video poker player.
The Washington Post has the article with the most background on Stephen Paddock of any I’ve found:
A high stakes video poker player. His brother is quoted as saying, “He’s known. He’s a top player.”
So, had anyone heard of this guy before?
He claimed to be a professional gambler, but I bet that he turns out to be a big loser, and that it played a part in turning him into what he became.
Bob Dancer hasn’t spoken but you have to believe that Bob played machines next to this guy at some point.
Bob Dancer hasn’t spoken but you have to believe that Bob played machines next to this guy at some point
You’re not the first one to speculate that. I’ve addressed that question today from about six players and four media outlets.
And I’ve never seen or heard of the guy. I’ve been effectively excluded from all MGM properties — and have been for 16 years. I’m not welcome at several other Strip casinos — and ones where I am welcome don’t have playable video poker that I know
about.
These d ays I play mostly at South Point, M, and Dotty’s. Those aren’t hotbeds of players playing $100 a hand.
They are reporting the guy plays $100-a-hand video poker. That’s an unusual (but not impossible) amount. $125 is a lot more likely. Dollar 10-play Ultimate X, for example, requires $100 per hand, but $25 single line and $5 Five Play are MUCH more
common.
this kind of detail leads me to suspect that whoever first reported this guy plays $100-a-hand video poker doesn’t know what he is talking about.
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What will/should the casino’s responsibility be in this case?
Let’s say they:
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Encouraged him to lose all of his money.
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Continued to bring him drink after drink.
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Comped his room overlooking the concert.
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Helped him bring his bags up without asking any questions.
That all sounds very plausible, and paints a pretty ugly picture.
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On 10/3/2017 12:08 AM, Bob Dancer
[vpFREE] wrote:
Bob Dancer hasn't spoken but you have to believethat Bob played machines next to this guy at some
point
You're not the first one to speculate that. I'veaddressed that question today from about six players
and four media outlets.
And I've never seen or heard of the guy. I'vebeen effectively excluded from all MGM properties —
and have been for 16 years. I’m not welcome at several
other Strip casinos — and ones where I am welcome
don’t have playable video poker that I know about.
These d ays I play mostly at South Point, M, andDotty’s. Those aren’t hotbeds of players playing $100
a hand.
They are reporting the guy plays $100-a-handvideo poker. That’s an unusual (but not impossible)
amount.� $125 is a lot more likely. Dollar 10-play
Ultimate X, for example, requires $100 per hand, but
$25 single line and $5 Five Play are MUCH more common.
this kind of detail leads me to suspect thatwhoever first reported this guy plays $100-a-hand
video poker doesn’t know what he is talking about.
bobdance…@…com
I’ve got to think there are quite a few casino hosts around town that know quite a bit about this guy. I speculate that one of them was the source for the info in the LVA News post. I also think that casino hosts are probably not allowed to talk publicly, both for liability reasons and that other gamblers would not want to think that the details of their play would not be kept private.
The fact that he was playing High Limit poker at an MGM property (it may not have been Mandalay Bay that he earned the status) would not exclude the possibility that he was an AP. The fact that he seemed to have been playing very high limit video poker for years, did not have an alternate source of extravagant income, and still had a bank account with over $1,000,000 makes it quite likely he was an AP of some sort.
I know someone who played next to him at the Cosmo five years ago. He also participated in several drawings there. I would say there are many recreational high limit AP’s that knew him. These would be players who try to play the optimal strategy and are well off but video poker is not how they make their living. A few years ago I was marketed by Caesars and went to some top end events where giving away some huge prizes and cash in Las Vegas. I know Paddock had to be at those events for Seven Stars players. I never knew the guy as I was coming from out of town.
According to this article he sued Cosmo after playing there.
Las Vegas Gunman Chased Gambling’s Payouts and Perks
Dave
Not ugly at all. Basic things you would expect from $125 a hand play on negative machines.
Since he was 7 stars at CET I guarantee a lot of you have played right next to him. He may have for all I know played next to me at the Atlantis HL room in Reno or Peppermill if he ever played there. This guy got around apparently. Likely on the 7 stars cruises with many of you.