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A VP Cartoon I Have

In a message dated 6/19/2006 7:30:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
QueenofComps@frugalgambler.biz writes:
Lost My Basic Strategy Chart
You maybe able to find the creator of your cartoon through the government
copyright office. Cartoons and comics are often registered.
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ44.html

However, even if they are not, I'd advise you not to use it without
permission. Recently Thomas Friedman wrote an interesting book and could not find the
creator of the illustration he wanted to use. The book is called The World is
Flat: A Brief History of the Twenty-first Century. He had found an old
California poster that was circulated in the 60's-70's, of the three ships carrying
Columbus to American going over the edge of the earth. Friedman and his
publisher exhausted all sources--the legal term--they did due diligence. Published the
book, with the old poster on the cover, and received their pleadings within
days of publication. This is one example of someone that did due
diligence--those that have not and are litigated against are more numerous.

But, may I humbly suggest that you have a cartoonist create a new cartoon for
your publication--only use a bag lady on Fremont Street. She could be
searching for her "Basic Strategy Chart" in her bags? The caption could read the
same. If you need a good cartoonist who will do it on the cheap--post a note on
the board at CalArts in Valencia, Ca. The administration will post it for you.
Calarts is one source of Cartoonists for Disney. Or even a call over to the U
of LV art department will probably lead you to an eager person and a great idea
for a cartoon.

But heck, Jean-- after Caesar's you can afford to pay big for a cartoon!
China

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China wrote: But heck, Jean-- after Caesar's you can afford to pay big
for a cartoon!

I believe you misunderstand Jean's philosophy. How much you can afford
has almost nothing to do with being frugal. A frugal person is thrifty
whether they have $30 to their name or $3 million. If Brad wanted to
give more than a buck to a wino on Fremont Street, even after Caesars
(no apostrophe, BTW), I bet Jean would still give him the old whatfor.

Bob Dancer

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Bob,
I believe you misunderstood China's statement. China said that Jean
can afford to pay for a big cartoon. She said nothing about whether it
would be "frugal" or not.
Curtis

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On 6/19/06, Bob Dancer <bob.dancer@compdance.com> wrote:

China wrote: But heck, Jean-- after Caesar's you can afford to pay big
for a cartoon!

I believe you misunderstand Jean's philosophy. How much you can afford
has almost nothing to do with being frugal. A frugal person is thrifty
whether they have $30 to their name or $3 million. If Brad wanted to
give more than a buck to a wino on Fremont Street, even after Caesars
(no apostrophe, BTW), I bet Jean would still give him the old whatfor.

Bob Dancer

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Curtis said: Bob, I believe you misunderstood China's statement. China
said that Jean can afford to pay for a big cartoon. She said nothing
about whether it would be "frugal" or not.

I don't believe I misunderstood at all. I'm speculating of course, but I
believe that if Jean found the cartoonist and was asked to pay $30 for
using it in her book, she would pay it (after trying to talk her
publisher into coughing up the money, of course) --- whether we're
talking before or after the tournament win. If she were asked to pay
$1,000 or more for the cartoon, I believe she would decide it wasn't
worth it --- again before or after --- and whether someone else thought
she could "afford" it or not. Being able to afford something is a very
personal choice, having as much to do with psychological reasons as
financial, and whether or not you are "frugal" has EVERYTHING to do with
it. I'm sure that Jean would not cede to China or anyone else the right
to decide about what she (Jean) could afford.

Bob Dancer

For the best in video poker information, visit www.bobdancer.com
or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.

Just to get into this discussion on semantics. I don't think that afford is the proper term in this discussion.
I can afford to buy many things that I want. I choose to not buy many of them because I don't believe that the value is there.
I think that is what makes a person truly frugal as opposed to just being cheap.
The word afford means having the sufficient means to pay for something. Jean certainly can afford to pay for a cartoon.
She may not choose to because she doesn't believe she is getting good value for her dollar, or because she doesn't believe the item
is really necessary .

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@compdance.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] A VP Cartoon I Have

Curtis said: Bob, I believe you misunderstood China's statement. China
said that Jean can afford to pay for a big cartoon. She said nothing
about whether it would be "frugal" or not.

I don't believe I misunderstood at all. I'm speculating of course, but I
believe that if Jean found the cartoonist and was asked to pay $30 for
using it in her book, she would pay it (after trying to talk her
publisher into coughing up the money, of course) --- whether we're
talking before or after the tournament win. If she were asked to pay
$1,000 or more for the cartoon, I believe she would decide it wasn't
worth it --- again before or after --- and whether someone else thought
she could "afford" it or not. Being able to afford something is a very
personal choice, having as much to do with psychological reasons as
financial, and whether or not you are "frugal" has EVERYTHING to do with
it. I'm sure that Jean would not cede to China or anyone else the right
to decide about what she (Jean) could afford.

Bob Dancer