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A Poll re Randomness, Machine Fixing & Other Chicanery

It seems that many vpFREE members are fixated on whether vp is still
legitimate, whether some casinos/manufacturers have tampered with
the randomness of the card selection, and most of all, whether their
win/loss ratio has been affected by this.

It would appear to me, that most of the opinions rendered,
especially in regard to win/loss ratios, have been based on purely
subjective data, such as "Quads/Deuces/Aces/Trips" etc. are "not
being seen" as often as in previous years. I personally, have NOT
had this experience, and, until I joined this forum, never gave a
thought to the possibility that perhaps I was playing a non-random
or biased vp machine. I am still very dubious that the machines are
rigged, both from personal experience and from reading the posts of
other members. However, because of all the controversy, I wonder if
it would be at all useful to poll the members on this subject?

For example, the poll could ask a number of pertinent questions,
such as:

        1. Do you believe that vp machines are entirely random?
        2. If not, are the casinos alone resposnsible?
        3. Are the Manufacturers alone responsible?
        4. Are the casinos & manufacturers coluding to "rig" vp?
        5. Other than rumor and innuendo, do you have any proof that
           this "rigging" has actually occured?
        6. Win/loss records for 2003 substantially worse
           than for 2002?
        7. Win/loss records, so far, for 2004 substantially less
           than for 2003?
        8. If so, do you attribute this to "non-randomness" or fixing
           of the percentage payback of the vp machine?

I, personally, would find it interesting to read the results of such
a poll. If the members, or Tom agree, I would certainly be happy to
participate in the poll.

              Babe

Babe, I'd like answers to my poll too.
1. are men and women having random sex?
2. if not, are the men alone respondsible?
3. are women alone responsible?
4. are men and women colluding to rig non-randomness?
5. are you having less sex than last year?
6. if so, do you attribute this to aging or high prices on Viagra type medicine?

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jackessiebabe <jackessiebabe@yahoo.com> wrote:

It seems that many vpFREE members are fixated on whether vp is still
legitimate, whether some casinos/manufacturers have tampered with
the randomness of the card selection, and most of all, whether their
win/loss ratio has been affected by this.

It would appear to me, that most of the opinions rendered,
especially in regard to win/loss ratios, have been based on purely
subjective data, such as "Quads/Deuces/Aces/Trips" etc. are "not
being seen" as often as in previous years. I personally, have NOT
had this experience, and, until I joined this forum, never gave a
thought to the possibility that perhaps I was playing a non-random
or biased vp machine. I am still very dubious that the machines are
rigged, both from personal experience and from reading the posts of
other members. However, because of all the controversy, I wonder if
it would be at all useful to poll the members on this subject?

For example, the poll could ask a number of pertinent questions,
such as:

        1. Do you believe that vp machines are entirely random?
        2. If not, are the casinos alone resposnsible?
        3. Are the Manufacturers alone responsible?
        4. Are the casinos & manufacturers coluding to "rig" vp?
        5. Other than rumor and innuendo, do you have any proof that
           this "rigging" has actually occured?
        6. Win/loss records for 2003 substantially worse
           than for 2002?
        7. Win/loss records, so far, for 2004 substantially less
           than for 2003?
        8. If so, do you attribute this to "non-randomness" or fixing
           of the percentage payback of the vp machine?

I, personally, would find it interesting to read the results of such
a poll. If the members, or Tom agree, I would certainly be happy to
participate in the poll.

              Babe
         
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Babe, I'd like answers to my poll too.
1. are men and women having random sex?
2. if not, are the men alone respondsible?
3. are women alone responsible?
4. are men and women colluding to rig non-randomness?
5. are you having less sex than last year?
6. if so, do you attribute this to aging or high prices on Viagra

type medicine?

jackessiebabe <jackessiebabe@y...> wrote:

It seems that many vpFREE members are fixated on whether vp is

still

legitimate, whether some casinos/manufacturers have tampered with
the randomness of the card selection, and most of all, whether

their

win/loss ratio has been affected by this.

It would appear to me, that most of the opinions rendered,
especially in regard to win/loss ratios, have been based on purely
subjective data, such as "Quads/Deuces/Aces/Trips" etc. are "not
being seen" as often as in previous years. I personally, have NOT
had this experience, and, until I joined this forum, never gave a
thought to the possibility that perhaps I was playing a non-

random

or biased vp machine. I am still very dubious that the machines

are

rigged, both from personal experience and from reading the posts

of

other members. However, because of all the controversy, I wonder

if

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Donald Ross <hedonist144@y...> wrote:

it would be at all useful to poll the members on this subject?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Well Donald, I see by your address that

you are ........A HEDONIST!!! No wonder you have a prurient
interest in the sex lives of others. However, I am just a babe-in-
the-woods, and never share private information with strangers! I
also don't believe that Tom, our able administrator, will go forward
with your poll, even on FREEvpFREE, since it is not only XVP, but X-
Rated XVP!.

Babe, sorry if I offended you or anyone else here. My sense of humor causes problems once in a while, guess this is one of them. I enjoy your posts very much here.

Babe, I'd like answers to my poll too.
1. are men and women having random sex?
2. if not, are the men alone respondsible?
3. are women alone responsible?
4. are men and women colluding to rig non-randomness?
5. are you having less sex than last year?
6. if so, do you attribute this to aging or high prices on Viagra

type medicine?

jackessiebabe <jackessiebabe@y...> wrote:

It seems that many vpFREE members are fixated on whether vp is

still

legitimate, whether some casinos/manufacturers have tampered with
the randomness of the card selection, and most of all, whether

their

win/loss ratio has been affected by this.

It would appear to me, that most of the opinions rendered,
especially in regard to win/loss ratios, have been based on purely
subjective data, such as "Quads/Deuces/Aces/Trips" etc. are "not
being seen" as often as in previous years. I personally, have NOT
had this experience, and, until I joined this forum, never gave a
thought to the possibility that perhaps I was playing a non-

random

or biased vp machine. I am still very dubious that the machines

are

rigged, both from personal experience and from reading the posts

of

other members. However, because of all the controversy, I wonder

if

···

jackessiebabe <jackessiebabe@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Donald Ross <hedonist144@y...> wrote:

it would be at all useful to poll the members on this subject?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Well Donald, I see by your address that

you are ........A HEDONIST!!! No wonder you have a prurient
interest in the sex lives of others. However, I am just a babe-in-
the-woods, and never share private information with strangers! I
also don't believe that Tom, our able administrator, will go forward
with your poll, even on FREEvpFREE, since it is not only XVP, but X-
Rated XVP!.

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humor causes problems once in a while, guess this is one of them.
I enjoy your posts very much here.

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Donald Ross <hedonist144@y...> wrote:

Babe, sorry if I offended you or anyone else here. My sense of

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hey, Donald,

NO offense at all taken! I guess my attempt at tongue....OOPS!.....
(O: tongue-in-cheek humor, was interpreted as distress.

I enjoy and relate to ALL who HAVE a sense of humor. It is one of
the few attributes that can get a person through the challenges and
vagaries of the life journey, in one piece, and usually w/o the help
of Prozac!

The best of luck to you, your humor, and your poll (if you can get
anyone ro answer it.

     Many Royals to you. Babe

jackessiebabe <jackessiebabe@y...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Donald Ross <hedonist144@y...>

wrote:

> Babe, I'd like answers to my poll too.
> 1. are men and women having random sex?
> 2. if not, are the men alone respondsible?
> 3. are women alone responsible?
> 4. are men and women colluding to rig non-randomness?
> 5. are you having less sex than last year?
> 6. if so, do you attribute this to aging or high prices on

Viagra

type medicine?

>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well Donald, I see by your address that
you are ........A HEDONIST!!! No wonder you have a prurient
interest in the sex lives of others. However, I am just a babe-in-
the-woods, and never share private information with strangers! I
also don't believe that Tom, our able administrator, will go

forward

with your poll, even on FREEvpFREE, since it is not only XVP, but

X-

Rated XVP!.

type medicine?

Well, the preliminary results aren't yet validated, but I can say
for SURE that if I'm getting less sex than I used to, it's GOT to be
as the result of some evil conspiracy, since my attractiveness and
sheer animal magnetism have, if anything, greatly INCREASED during
the last few years; I usr Irish Spring (the "manly" deodorant soap),
and I drive a late-model Ford Manhood SUV with the optional V-20
engine and grenade launcher.

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Donald Ross <hedonist144@y...> wrote:

Babe, I'd like answers to my poll too.
1. are men and women having random sex?
2. if not, are the men alone respondsible?
3. are women alone responsible?
4. are men and women colluding to rig non-randomness?
5. are you having less sex than last year?
6. if so, do you attribute this to aging or high prices on Viagra

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rockofjello333"
<rockofjello333@y...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Donald Ross <hedonist144@y...>

wrote:

> Babe, I'd like answers to my poll too.
> 1. are men and women having random sex?

Well, the preliminary results aren't yet validated, but I can say
for SURE that if I'm getting less sex than I used to, it's GOT to

be

as the result of some evil conspiracy, since my attractiveness and
sheer animal magnetism have, if anything, greatly INCREASED during
the last few years; I usr Irish Spring (the "manly" deodorant

soap),

···

and I drive a late-model Ford Manhood SUV with the optional V-20
engine and grenade launcher.

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Hmmmmmm........There might be another

reason also. Have you inquired of your many friends on this forum
what THEY think your problem might be?
Just a suggestion .......(O:
                     Babe