Last weekend, I saw a Bonus Poker vp machine that pays 175 for all
quads instead of the normal (400 for 4-Aces, 200 for 4-2s/3s/4s, and
125 for the rest of the quads). (at Harrahs Rincon)
Need help to clarify the following:
1. What do you call this Bonus Poker game (not 8/5 BP though it does
have 8/5 in its Payschedule)?
2. What is the overall return?
3. Do you use the same 8/5 BP strategy?
Thanks a lot!
Gilbert
With all 4 of a kind paying the same, is this not just a variation of JOB?
bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@y...> wrote:
Last weekend, I saw a Bonus Poker vp machine that pays 175 for all
quads instead of the normal (400 for 4-Aces, 200 for 4-2s/3s/4s, and
125 for the rest of the quads). (at Harrahs Rincon)Need help to clarify the following:
1. What do you call this Bonus Poker game (not 8/5 BP though it does
have 8/5 in its Payschedule)?
2. What is the overall return?
3. Do you use the same 8/5 BP strategy?Thanks a lot!
Gilbert
True, but regular bonus poker itself is a variation of JOB, remember it is a JOB variant.
You only have 2 broad kinds of VP, JOB and it's variants and wild card games.
Getting back to the original question...
1. It is still called bonus poker, but commonly referred to as 8/5/175 bonus poker.
2. %99.66 - great game .
3. I do and I imagine the changes from regular 8/5 bonus would be minimal if any.
Regards
A.P.
----- Original Message -----
From: bornloser1537
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:08 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: A different kind of Bonus Poker?
With all 4 of a kind paying the same, is this not just a variation of JOB?
bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@y...> wrote:
>
> Last weekend, I saw a Bonus Poker vp machine that pays 175 for all
> quads instead of the normal (400 for 4-Aces, 200 for 4-2s/3s/4s, and
> 125 for the rest of the quads). (at Harrahs Rincon)
>
> Need help to clarify the following:
> 1. What do you call this Bonus Poker game (not 8/5 BP though it does
> have 8/5 in its Payschedule)?
> 2. What is the overall return?
> 3. Do you use the same 8/5 BP strategy?
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Albert Pearson wrote:
True, but regular bonus poker itself is a variation of JOB, remember
it is a JOB variant.
Ok, but I figure that the "bonus" part is a reference to the fact that
there are "bonus" quads ... i.e. certain quads that pay more than all
the rest of the quads.
The "175 payout on all quads" version described here sounds like
simply a paytable variation on JB -- no different in nature than, say,
9/5 or 7/5. Perhaps this would be best referred to as 35/8/5 Jacks.
- H.
VPFREE lists it under JOB.
Jacks or Better
1-1-3-4-6-9-25-50-800 ... 86.71%
1-2-3-4-5-6-25-50-800 ... 95.00%
1-2-3-4-5-7-25-50-800 ... 96.15%
1-2-3-4-5-8-25-50-800 ... 97.30%
1-2-3-4-6-8-25-50-800 ... 98.39%
1-2-3-4-5-9-25-50-800 ... 98.45%
1-2-3-4-5-8-30-50-800 ... 98.48%
1-2-3-4-6-9-25-50-800 ... 99.54% - JoB (FP)
1-2-3-4-5-8-35-50-800 ... 99.66% <--------------------------
1-2-3-4-6-9-25-50-940 ... 99.90%
1-2-3-4-6-9-25-90-800 ... 99.996% - 9/6/90 JoB
I thought the "bonus" implied that the various 4 of a kinds have different "pay" values.
Thus the difference between JOB and it various "BONUS" variants.
.....bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@y...> wrote:
>
> Last weekend, I saw a Bonus Poker vp machine that pays 175 for all
> quads instead of the normal (400 for 4-Aces, 200 for 4-2s/3s/4s, and
> 125 for the rest of the quads). (at Harrahs Rincon)
>
> Need help to clarify the following:
> 1. What do you call this Bonus Poker game (not 8/5 BP though it does
> have 8/5 in its Payschedule)?
> 2. What is the overall return?
> 3. Do you use the same 8/5 BP strategy?[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
OOOOPS! You beat me to the punch. Sorry, Harry. I should have read farther and not
duplicated what you already said.
.....bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...> wrote:
Albert Pearson wrote:
> True, but regular bonus poker itself is a variation of JOB, remember
> it is a JOB variant.Ok, but I figure that the "bonus" part is a reference to the fact that
there are "bonus" quads ... i.e. certain quads that pay more than all
the rest of the quads.The "175 payout on all quads" version described here sounds like
simply a paytable variation on JB -- no different in nature than, say,
9/5 or 7/5. Perhaps this would be best referred to as 35/8/5 Jacks.- H.
This $25 BP machine is next to another $25 Draw Poker (9/6 JB) machine
and is clearly named BONUS POKER (those big old Red background).
99.66% WOW!!! Wish I have the proper bankroll to play this machine.
(Maybe someday...if it is still around)
You're right Harry! I don't see why they didn't call it another Draw
Poker instead since there is no bonus on any of the quads.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...> wrote:
Albert Pearson wrote:
> True, but regular bonus poker itself is a variation of JOB, remember
> it is a JOB variant.Ok, but I figure that the "bonus" part is a reference to the fact that
there are "bonus" quads ... i.e. certain quads that pay more than all
the rest of the quads.The "175 payout on all quads" version described here sounds like
simply a paytable variation on JB -- no different in nature than, say,
9/5 or 7/5. Perhaps this would be best referred to as 35/8/5 Jacks.- H.
I consider this game a "non-bonus" draw poker game. The same is true of "bonus Deluxe" which pays 80:1 for all quads.
Skip
gilbert_616 wrote:
This $25 BP machine is next to another $25 Draw Poker (9/6 JB) machine and is clearly named BONUS POKER (those big old Red background).
99.66% WOW!!! Wish I have the proper bankroll to play this machine.
(Maybe someday...if it is still around)You're right Harry! I don't see why they didn't call it another Draw Poker instead since there is no bonus on any of the quads.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...> wrote:
Albert Pearson wrote:
True, but regular bonus poker itself is a variation of JOB, remember
it is a JOB variant.
Ok, but I figure that the "bonus" part is a reference to the fact that
there are "bonus" quads ... i.e. certain quads that pay more than all
the rest of the quads.The "175 payout on all quads" version described here sounds like
simply a paytable variation on JB -- no different in nature than, say,
9/5 or 7/5. Perhaps this would be best referred to as 35/8/5 Jacks.- H.
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Skip
http://www.vpinsider.com
I guess we can call it whatever we want. The manufacturer calls it Bonus Poker, and that is how I refer to it, same as Bonus Poker Deluxe.
Regards
A.P.
----- Original Message -----
From: Skip Hughes
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: A different kind of Bonus Poker?
I consider this game a "non-bonus" draw poker game. The same is true of
"bonus Deluxe" which pays 80:1 for all quads.
Skip
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There is a bonus on quads. It just happens to be the same bonus on all quads. Remember regular JB only pays 125 for all quads.
Regards
A.P.
----- Original Message -----
From: Harry Porter
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: A different kind of Bonus Poker?
Albert Pearson wrote:
> True, but regular bonus poker itself is a variation of JOB, remember
> it is a JOB variant.
Ok, but I figure that the "bonus" part is a reference to the fact that
there are "bonus" quads ... i.e. certain quads that pay more than all
the rest of the quads.
The "175 payout on all quads" version described here sounds like
simply a paytable variation on JB -- no different in nature than, say,
9/5 or 7/5. Perhaps this would be best referred to as 35/8/5 Jacks.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<<There is a bonus on quads. It just happens to be the same bonus on all quads. Remember regular JB only pays 125 for all quads.>>
I love this list. The above is so obvious - but I hadn't thought about this angle!!!!
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I first saw this game four years ago when the Palms opened, and
discussed it in a March 2003 article in Strictly Slots, "A Rose By Any
Other Name". At the time I suggested that it was a variation of Jacks or
Better because all quads return the same. The name I recommended was
"Jacks or Better Deluxe". I spoke to IGT about changing the name --- to
no avail.
The most interesting response I received to this recommended name
was, "Does that mean it comes with fries and a Coke?"
Bob Dancer
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or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.
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It could also be called Super-Sized JOB?
.....bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@c...> wrote:
The most interesting response I received to this recommended name
was, "Does that mean it comes with fries and a Coke?"Bob Dancer
I agree with you Harry, it seems more like JOB than any of the Bonus
games, unfortunately when I have seen this paytable the glass labeled
it as Bonus Poker, so I think it will always be confusing.
Happy Royals
Jim
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...> wrote:
The "175 payout on all quads" version described here sounds like
simply a paytable variation on JB -- no different in nature than, say,
9/5 or 7/5. Perhaps this would be best referred to as 35/8/5 Jacks.- H.
Sorry, I forgot to ask one more thing about this game.
What is the variance % (or volatility?) on this Bonus Poker game?
(example: approx. 19% for 9/6 JB, approx. 21% for 8/5 BP, etc.)
Thanks again!
There is a bonus on quads. It just happens to be the same bonus on
all quads. Remember regular JB only pays 125 for all quads.
Regards
A.P.
From: Harry Porter
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: A different kind of Bonus Poker?Albert Pearson wrote:
> True, but regular bonus poker itself is a variation of JOB,
remember
> it is a JOB variant.
Ok, but I figure that the "bonus" part is a reference to the fact
that
there are "bonus" quads ... i.e. certain quads that pay more than
all
the rest of the quads.
The "175 payout on all quads" version described here sounds like
simply a paytable variation on JB -- no different in nature than,
say,
9/5 or 7/5. Perhaps this would be best referred to as 35/8/5
Jacks.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@s...> wrote:
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The variance for 8/5/35 BP is 20.69, compared to 19.51 for 9/6 JOB and
20.90 for regular 8/5 BP.
8/5/35 BP is my game of preference when I visit the casinos in Lake
Charles, LA. I've studied it pretty thoroughly, including all of the
(heaven forbid!)penalty card situations.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gilbert_616" <gilbert_616@y...> wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to ask one more thing about this game.
What is the variance % (or volatility?) on this Bonus Poker game?
(example: approx. 19% for 9/6 JB, approx. 21% for 8/5 BP, etc.)Thanks again!