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9/6 JoB at Cosmopolitan

#1

I don't understand. If I go in and hit them up for a couple of $10 royals and a hefty net profit because of it, why isn't that worth getting banned from playing any further vp at the Cosmo? Or does this OSN share their analysis of lucky/knowledgeable players with all casinos?

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From: "Bob Dancer" <bobdancervp@hotmail.com>
To: <vpfree@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] 9/6 JoB at Cosmopolitan
Date: Fri, Jun 29, 2012 8:25 am
Last I heard, the inventor of "Oregon Surveillance Network" has a high position at the Cosmo. OSN is a company good at "game protection" who keeps track of knowledgeable and lucky players --- not always distinguishing between the two. OSN long ago replaced Griffin as the agency feared most by blackjack counters and other advantage players. Anyone hitting a couple of $10 royals or more there would likely come to the attention of OSN --- and that's not a good thing if you wish to continue playing. For this reason, I have yet to play a hand at the Cosmo --- even with the 2x cashback promos at the start when they had high limit NSU. Far too dangerous, even for someone like me who is already high profile. For someone who is a strong player but isn't high profile yet, you probably shouldn't even look at the building from the freeway. Bob

#2

Banning people who haven't broken any laws is stupid and bad for business, in fact it may even be illegal, one judge ruled it was in North Las Vegas. On the radio show Bob Nersesian said he is looking for a case to take to the state supreme court.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/nlv-court-rules-nv-casino-cant-trespass-advantage-player-948630/

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:

I don't understand. If I go in and hit them up for a couple of $10 royals and a hefty net profit because of it, why isn't that worth getting banned from playing any further vp at the Cosmo? Or does this OSN share their analysis of lucky/knowledgeable players with all casinos?

----- Reply message -----
From: "Bob Dancer" <bobdancervp@...>
To: <vpfree@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] 9/6 JoB at Cosmopolitan
Date: Fri, Jun 29, 2012 8:25 am
Last I heard, the inventor of "Oregon Surveillance Network" has a high position at the Cosmo. OSN is a company good at "game protection" who keeps track of knowledgeable and lucky players --- not always distinguishing between the two. OSN long ago replaced Griffin as the agency feared most by blackjack counters and other advantage players. Anyone hitting a couple of $10 royals or more there would likely come to the attention of OSN --- and that's not a good thing if you wish to continue playing. For this reason, I have yet to play a hand at the Cosmo --- even with the 2x cashback promos at the start when they had high limit NSU. Far too dangerous, even for someone like me who is already high profile. For someone who is a strong player but isn't high profile yet, you probably shouldn't even look at the building from the freeway. Bob

#3

Heh. I read this. Still a bunch of clueless kids at 2+2 I see.

Well, that was 2010, maybe different now. lol

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

Banning people who haven't broken any laws is stupid and bad for business, in fact it may even be illegal, one judge ruled it was in North Las Vegas. On the radio show Bob Nersesian said he is looking for a case to take to the state supreme court.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/nlv-court-rules-nv-casino-cant-trespass-advantage-player-948630/

#4

Even in the unlikely event bans are banned there is nothing to prevent the house from refusing to give any slot club benefits such as CB, comps, promotions, welfare checks, etc. to a player.
Which will quickly moot the issue. A thousand hands of $10 9-6 instantly becomes a negative EV of 250 dollars. Not a great way to spend an afternoon in anyones book.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

Banning people who haven't broken any laws is stupid and bad for business, in fact it may even be illegal, one judge ruled it was in North Las Vegas. On the radio show Bob Nersesian said he is looking for a case to take to the state supreme court.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/nlv-court-rules-nv-casino-cant-trespass-advantage-player-948630/

#5

Casinos bar players all the time based on the word of third party information gatherers like OSN. If it happens to you I suggest you file a privacy complaint with the FTC. Unfortunately unless you in one of the "enlightened" jurisdictions like Missouri or New Jersey, being barred for being exceedingly lucky or skillful is still a fact of life.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

Banning people who haven't broken any laws is stupid and bad for business, in fact it may even be illegal, one judge ruled it was in North Las Vegas. On the radio show Bob Nersesian said he is looking for a case to take to the state supreme court.