vpFREE Administrator wrote:
>>> I believe that you have misinterpreted Harry's post.
My take on Harry's post was that participants aren't likely to
change their own personal standards as a result of an ethics discussion
on vpFREE.
Whether they change their opinion of someone else's ethics is
another matter. <<<
"vp_mavin" replied:
I am posting this reply on free^2, even though I believe this
topic/debate rightfully belongs on the main board.
You are entitled to your opinion, however the best reason for
replying on FREEvpFREE is because that's where the message
you're replying to was posted.
It's a common refrain that debates don't change minds, they just
reinforce already held views. But I believe a well argued point can
change viewpoints, perhaps even clarify murky ethical situations.
It's a possibility, but I agree with Harry that ethics debates on
internet forums aren't very likely to change the minds of the
debaters.
Ethics discussions are fine on vpFREE, as long as they don't
get personally negative.
I would like to say that I enjoy reading 80-90% of Harry's posts, they
tend to be well written and thoughtful, but, I do get annoyed when he
tries to stifle discussions on vpFree, or push topics over here on
free^2, a sure end to a vigorous debate.
Fair enough.
Harry on several occasions has
posted these suggestions on vpFree, and glaringly absent is the
Administrators usual rebuke, of leaving the administering to the
administrator.
Please give examples of the "usual rebuke" to individual
violators of the "no Asst. Administrator" posting guideline.
In order for an event to be glaring it must deviate from an
established practice or pattern. The "no Asst. Administrator"
exhortation, like many other vpFREE posting guidelines, has
been largely platitudinal in nature and public enforcement
hasn't been a priority item. I don't care to research, but don't
believe that a pattern of "usual rebukes" exists.
I am making the assumption here that Harry was not
privately rebuked,
Your assumption is very presumptive. Whether or not
Harry was privately rebuked isn't your concern.
since Harry seems to be a rule abiding fellow, and
would not cross the administrator.
I'm a big Harry Porter fan, but neither your observation
or assertion is completely accurate.
The occasional inconsistent
enforcement of vpFree rules by the administrator is truly a small
point, and not my main concern here.
Any input into perceived inconsistent enforcement of vpFREE
Rules and Policies is always welcome. I'm not aware of ANY
inconsistencies, and if their are some it's a function of ineptitude
rather than intent.
My concern is to encourage greater participation in vpFree NOT less. I
would rather delete and ignore 200 lousy posts to get at two great post
than delete 50 lousy posts to get at one mediocre post.
This sounds reasonable, depending on your definition of
"lousy posts". If it includes NPC posts then I disagree.
The hot button topics tend to generate greater participation,
which I see as a good thing.
So long as it doesn't violate the Posting Guidelines.
I would opt for a much more narrow interpretation of "Negative
Personal Comments", outright name calling should be banned, but,
vigorious discussion of vpFree posts or hyper-linked articles should
be "freely" allowed.
Discussion of any topic is allowed on vpFREE. NPC aren't
a necessary ingredient.
I would note that "Bob" seems more than capable of defending himself
from the occasional harsh criticism he has received. Some of his replys
have even been somewhat entertaining.
IMO, Bob (and everyone else) would always come of better
if they always took the high road and never got personal in
negative situations,
I would like to hear his take on
what percent of his $1,000,000 win was due to E.V. and what percent
was due to luck. I'm sure with his meticulous record keeping this would
be easy to answer.
He apparently doesn't care to answer your question. As I recall
you requested, and your friend Thymos seconded, such a request
on vpFREE, and it has been ignored by Dancer. You might
consider asking directly via a private email to BD.
vpFREE Administrator